Wait, what? Didn't WCS Season 2 just end? I guess this is just how things are in the post WCS world. Two days after the end of the previous season, and we're heading straight back into the thick of things with WCS Korea Season 3. As per the alternating-turns agreement, it's time for GomTV to take the reigns again, making this tournament an official Code S.
Countdown to games:
Group A: Soulkey, PigBaby, Swagger, PartinG
The StarCraft II scene is in chaos.
The dynasties of players like Mvp, DRG, Life and others may have led us to believe that order is an innate quality of the StarCraft II world, but that belief is being shaken. With all three regional title-holders falling at the WCS Season Finals, INnoVation revealing himself as a fellow mortal, and the unexpected rise of Bomber to the seat of champion, there is no predicting what might happen next. There are no sacred cows; every established power is in danger of being toppled in an instant.
On that note, let's talk about Woongjin_Soulkey. Soulkey has to be feeling pretty good at the moment, despite not making it to the Season 2 Finals. First off, watching his arch-nemesis Innovation not only fall to Taeja but to Naniwa as well must have felt good. Not only did it embarrass INnoVation, but if further dispelled his air of invincibility. Furthermore, Soulkey somehow came out as a winner in the WCS Korea region by virtue of simply not playing any games at the Season Championship. Maru, Rain, and INnoVation all ended up looking much worse for wear. First was basically just treading water at Cologne. Only Bomber significantly enhanced his reputation, and as a result Soulkey's relative standing in Korea has actually improved.
As for this particular group, it's a good place for Soulkey to keep shoring up his reputation. Although both his ZvZ and ZvT are more talked about, Soulkey is no pushover in ZvP. He went out to Sora in WCG, a victim of the hottest streak ever witnessed in Starcraft II, but fixable mistakes played a large part in his loss. This is not a particularly scary group in terms of PvZ ability, and a week of one match-up practice will have prepared Soulkey well for this group.
When you get down to it, the only player to consistently defeat Soulkey in Korea recently has been Innovation. With no Innovation in the group and his first opponent being Pigbaby, Soulkey couldn't have asked for a much better start to the season.
JinAir_Pigbaby, the player former known has HS, is still somewhat of an enigma. Rarely fielded in Proleague, he just doesn't have that many games on record – certainly not enough to really say what he's like skill wise. We can make some observations: he beat Ragnarok in Code A before falling to Gumiho, and he got out of his Up&Down group by beating Keen, Leenock and Avenge (but losing to Ruin). It's really impressive that Pigbaby could get things together so quickly and make it to Code S after being a fringe player in Proleague, but the question here is about staying power.
Matched up against Soulkey, there are four scenarios for the Jin Air Protoss:
He has maintained the level he showed in the Up&Downs.
He has improved further, continuing his rapid growth.
He has a few tricks up his sleeve.
He had a fluky, lucky run through Code A.
In three scenarios, Soulkey is a beatable opponents for PigBaby, but still a very tough opponent. With Proleague on hiatus, there is nothing to prepare for but WCS, which makes specific planning a little easier to do for players. Whether or not Pigbaby can bring something new to the table will decide if he goes to the winners' or losers' match.
Over in the other match, we have SKT_PartinG going up against a very unlikely opponent – MVP.Swagger (aka Killer aka Sangho). For a player counted out by many and one who only seems to receive ironic support because of his ID, Swagger has proven that he's both persistent and dedicated, and once again legitimately good. Beating Roro, Marineking (twice) and Curious to advance to Code S, Swagger's PvP seems to be his weakest point of his recent revival. Put up against Parting who might be the very best player Korea has to offer in the Protoss mirror at the moment, Swagger should be in for a very rough ride. We all know how dangerous it is to count a player out completely, especially when the match-up in question is a PvP, but the first match looks like a tough one for Swagger unless he pulls out a few tricks in a famously tricky match-up.
Speaking of swagger, there's PartinG, who seems to embody the concept of "swag." He remains one of the few Koreans progamers to consistently put out colorful interviews and ceremonies. Unfortunately for Parting, he's no longer a hot topic when Protoss is the subject. Having missed out on both Season Finals through early eliminations from WCS Korea, the WCS Champion of 2012 seems to have faded away a bit, partially assimilated into the Borg collective of talented but indistinguishable KeSPA Protoss players.
Outside the WCS, Parting has still kept himself relevant. He played an important role in SKT's successes in Proleague, and winning WCG Korea was an absolute godsend for maintaining his reputation as an elite player. Defeating a string of strong Protosses and INnoVation on top of that, PartinG can at least say he's the "best national WCG representative in the world."
The good play from Parting we've seen recently should be more than enough to get him out of this group. Getting past Soulkey in a potential winners' match duel will be the toughest challenge. If their respective WCG runs are anything to go by, the ensuing battle has the potential to be a great match.
There was a time long ago when hundreds, not thousands of people read TL, and we were pretty certain progamers weren't among them. We could write whatever the f*** we wanted, without any sense of propriety or second guessing. Those days gave birth to the first Progamer Pokedex, an irreverant cult classic. It's time to bring those days back.
Soulkey is Zapdos! As one of the legendary Pokemon of the first generation, Zapdos was marketed as one of the strongest Pokemon in the original game. Numbers wise, Zapdos was certainly one of the strongest, lagging only behind Mewtwo, Mew, and Dragonite. And even among his legendary bird peers, Zapdos had the best stat distribution and most competitive value. Zapdos seemed to have it made as one of Generation I's premier Pokemon...if not for one weakness. The problem was that Zapdos was stonewalled by the literal stone walls of Ground/Rock types such as Golem and Rhydon, much like Soulkey has been thwarted multiple times by the stoned-faced INnoVation. To overcome this crippling barrier, Zapdos would eventually have to find some hidden powers...
Pigbaby is Tepig! As one of Generation V's starter Pokemon, Tepig showed a lot of promise when it was first announced. After all, it would be following in the footsteps of popular fire starters such as Charizard, Blaziken, and Infernape. And as a fire starter, its fully evolved form was guaranteed decent stats with a fairly diverse move pool. But in the end, Tepig disappointed many of us by being just a mediocre creature without much of a following. The problem was that Gamefreak wanted to give us a carbon copy of previously successful fire starters such as Blaziken and Infernape, but only just left us with a strictly inferior and less popular version.
Swagger is Ludicolo! Because it's some kind of sombrero-wearing dancing pineapple duck tree. (I swear someone was high when they came up with this guy.) What's got more swagger than that? Just look at his pokedex entry:
If it hears festive music, all its muscles fill with energy. It can't help breaking out into a dance.
Ludicolo certainly doesn't look intimidating, which is maybe why we're all so surprised when he wins a battle. Still, Ludicolo's main purpose is comic relief and though he may unexpected win some fights, he'll always eventually go down.
PartinG is Charizard! One of the most popular Pokemon of Generation I, Charizard is as ferocious as they come. In the anime, Charizard was featured in a starring role, being the second most recognizable of the protagonist's Pokemon, after only Pikachu. Though Charizard started off as a lowly Charmander, as soon as he evolved and gained some fame, power, and prestige, he immediately began to misbehave and stray from the norm of a typical quiet obedient Pokemon. Spewing flamethrowers indiscriminately, often at his trainer, Charizard was never one to follow the rules.
The hidden truth about Charizard is that he was never really that strong; the anime just needed a cool and strong-looking Pokemon so that Ash didn't look like a complete wimp. Though depicted as a fainting-machine with his dragon-like look and bombastic roaring and flamethrowing, Charizard was never really much of a threat in the games. This was even eventually made apparent in the anime in an episode titled Charizard's Burning Ambitions. In this episode, Charizard and co. find the Charicific Valley, a hidden location where the most legendary of Charizard have trained before him. Ash's Charizard, always the showoff, proceeded to challenge each of them, though eventually finding himself the weakest Charizard in the valley. At the end of the episode, Ash's Charizard makes the decision to stay and train in the valley, where he currently resides.
Gotta agree on those predictions (though wouldn't be shocked to see parting beating soulkey, I won't underestimate that guy ever again after making it out of the group of death). Way better than predicting jd to be last in his group
Oh I didn't know it was starting already. Hope there are some free VoDs available cause I can no longer watch GSL live (for the first time in 2 years actually) and I fear I lost a little of my passion and thus I do not feel like paying for VoDs that I will not even utilize fully.
On August 28 2013 06:05 LittleRedBoy wrote: Who is Mewtwo? And please don't say Innovation.
taeja
In a misguided attempt to clone the ancestor of all pro gamers Boxer, they created Taeja. Unfortunately, Jessica mislabeled the test tubes so many believed MMA to be the son of Boxer while Taeja was left to anguish alone on the ladder. It was during his captivity on Slayers that Taeja came to realize he was stronger than all of his creators who had left him in the dark and through his psychic powers was able to broker a deal to join Teamliquid and taste the sweetness of Freedom and easy money all across the globe.
On August 28 2013 06:09 Dreamer.T wrote: Sadly, Zapdos is now UU. Soulkey is definitely OU caliber, I'd compare him to Thunderus-T. Innovation is Latios, once an Uber, now OU .
Just popping in here to express my sincere desire for all of the premier league players to be given the pokedex treatment. This includes the NA and EU regions.
I haven't played Pokemon since I was like 13 xD. Still love generations 1 and 2 though.
I pretty much got lost around Ruby version and never paid much attention to stats unless some were profoundly better than others (Mewtwo, Ho-Oh etc) so a lot of these tiers are lost on me ;;.
I seem to recall Dragonite, Zapdos, Cloister, Mewtwo (duh), Mew, Joltion (fastest in game iirc), Articuno, and Moltres being the best of the original generation. Someone who's more of a contemporary fan might want to chime in on this one.
HO-Oh struck me as the best of the generation 2s (probably wrong). I never got Celebi though. Cyndiquil had to have been the best starter, I mean Typhosion gets thunder punch! (I was always biased towards Fire types..had a lot of elementary school arguments ..).
Anyway, I look forward to more of these, for more nostalgic fun.
The TL fascination with Pokemon never ceases to puzzle me. The whole idea of Pokemon is so absurd that it is beyond my mental capabilitites to comprehend that someone finds it interesting.
On August 28 2013 06:21 opisska wrote: The TL fascination with Pokemon never ceases to puzzle me. The whole idea of Pokemon is so absurd that it is beyond my mental capabilitites to comprehend that someone finds it interesting.
On August 28 2013 06:21 opisska wrote: The TL fascination with Pokemon never ceases to puzzle me. The whole idea of Pokemon is so absurd that it is beyond my mental capabilitites to comprehend that someone finds it interesting.
MVP of course has to be the strongest pokemon. Seriously, it's not even close. At least one of the strongest origins. Innovation can be like... a newcomer strong pokemon.
On August 28 2013 06:29 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: ohh I wish my pokemon knowledge was still intact to reasonably guess what pokemon the other players will be D:
Dang, Squirtle's not in Code S. ~~ Love the Pokedex though. =D
Imo this group is the easiest one to predict. Soulkey's been consistently dominant throughout HotS. PartinG is completely dominant against non-Zergs (fun fact: PartinG has gone 10 straight games in KR without playing a Zerg. His record? 10-0. Likewise, he hasn't won a PvZ series since May 2nd, with 9 consecutive match losses).
Either Pigbaby or Swagger advancing would be quite the upset.
On August 28 2013 06:37 LockeTazeline wrote: Dang, Squirtle's not in Code S. ~~ Love the Pokedex though. =D
Imo this group is the easiest one to predict. Soulkey's been consistently dominant throughout HotS. PartinG is completely dominant against non-Zergs (fun fact: PartinG has gone 10 straight games in KR without playing a Zerg. His record? 10-0. Likewise, he hasn't won a PvZ series since May 2nd, with 9 consecutive match losses).
Either Pigbaby or Swagger advancing would be quite the upset.
damn, those are some messed up stats lol I hope Parting can learn how to beat zerg
On August 28 2013 06:21 opisska wrote: The TL fascination with Pokemon never ceases to puzzle me. The whole idea of Pokemon is so absurd that it is beyond my mental capabilitites to comprehend that someone finds it interesting.
Oh great goodness its back! It felt like almost too long since we had Code S.
Also, given that Soulkey is Zapdos and has a weakness against Rock types, and the writers mention Innovation is like an unmovable stone, then I'm quite sure Innovation is some kind of rock pokemon, probably the strongest kind.
Ah okay, thanks for correcting me, and sorry for my unintentionally misleading information. I didn't really follow season 16, I just watched that particular episode.
Gotta say, don't see how Soulkeys status somehow magically goes up because he wasn't able to make it into the season finals..really doesn't make any sense. Even assuming that you were correct is saying that the wcs korea participants did not do well, which i don't agree with, soulkey still wasn't able to even make it to the finals by virtue to losing to those players as well as inferior ones (supernova). If anything, I think the most obvious thing to come out of the finals was jaedong and scarlett usurping him as the best zergs in the world.
As I said though, I also dont agree that the wcs korea participants under performed in the finals. First did not "tread water," he made it to the semi-finals, hardly an unremarkable acheivement, especially as he came in as the 5th seed from korea. Innovation lost to naniwa sure, but isnt that what naniwa has always been good at? Killing off koreans when he has time to prepare for them? Who else would he specifically be preparing for in that group over inno? Also, inno's series vs Taeja was one of the best TvTs in quite a while, especially game 3. Rain made it out of his group, only to be defeated by a super hot Taeja, hardly a black mark on his record; it just shows the level Taeja is currently playing at more than anything else. And Maru winning one osl hardly make him a benchmark to judge other players against, just ask seed and sniper.
On August 28 2013 07:29 Survivor61316 wrote: Gotta say, don't see how Soulkeys status somehow magically goes up because he wasn't able to make it into the season finals..really doesn't make any sense. Even assuming that you were correct is saying that the wcs korea participants did not do well, which i don't agree with, soulkey still wasn't able to even make it to the finals by virtue to losing to those players as well as inferior ones (supernova). If anything, I think the most obvious thing to come out of the finals was jaedong and scarlett usurping him as the best zergs in the world.
As I said though, I also dont agree that the wcs korea participants under performed in the finals. First did not "tread water," he made it to the semi-finals, hardly an unremarkable acheivement, especially as he came in as the 5th seed from korea. Innovation lost to naniwa sure, but isnt that what naniwa has always been good at? Killing off koreans when he has time to prepare for them? Who else would he specifically be preparing for in that group over inno? Also, inno's series vs Taeja was one of the best TvTs in quite a while, especially game 3. Rain made it out of his group, only to be defeated by a super hot Taeja, hardly a black mark on his record; it just shows the level Taeja is currently playing at more than anything else. And Maru winning one osl hardly make him a benchmark to judge other players against, just ask seed and sniper.
Soulkey made himself looking better by lacking the need to embarass himself at WCS Season 2 finals (especially since he is so consistently inconsistent :S), and no, Soulkey's status as best zerg in the world (overall, i start to think that jd may have the claims for one of the best zvp's in the world now and scarlett easily gets status of one of best zvters in the world) is yet to be actually rivaled (call me, when Soulkey loses to Pigbaby and PartinG and gets in Code A Ro48 :D). First did perform well , true that. Granted he did perform only on back of his vT match-up and got embarassingly stomped by jd in zvp. If anything naniwa would be preparing for duckdeok and hope to somehow past through terrans, so Innovation's loss there did look awkward (haha, i used this word too!). Innovation vs TaeJa was driven to have one of the best games of the year (other 2 were lackluster IMO) on the back of mech vs bio mechanic in general and Bomber soon have shown that their tvt is just not there. Rain lost to jvp (and now you cannot really blame him for that, haha) and then got stomped in his best match-up with sloppy play everywhere. And Maru losing in his group is just sign that he is heavy preparation based player, that can get hot sometimes. So if you ask me, WCS Korea's representatives except for Bomber did look subpar this weekend.
Woah, my two favorite game franchises, being mashed together?
Might I suggest Starmie for Symbol? They're both noted for their consistency and moderate potency, but each have quite a few options that they make use of, and some really unique styles, if only people would pay attention to the stuff they use less frequently.
On August 28 2013 07:29 Survivor61316 wrote: Gotta say, don't see how Soulkeys status somehow magically goes up because he wasn't able to make it into the season finals..really doesn't make any sense. Even assuming that you were correct is saying that the wcs korea participants did not do well, which i don't agree with, soulkey still wasn't able to even make it to the finals by virtue to losing to those players as well as inferior ones (supernova). If anything, I think the most obvious thing to come out of the finals was jaedong and scarlett usurping him as the best zergs in the world.
As I said though, I also dont agree that the wcs korea participants under performed in the finals. First did not "tread water," he made it to the semi-finals, hardly an unremarkable acheivement, especially as he came in as the 5th seed from korea. Innovation lost to naniwa sure, but isnt that what naniwa has always been good at? Killing off koreans when he has time to prepare for them? Who else would he specifically be preparing for in that group over inno? Also, inno's series vs Taeja was one of the best TvTs in quite a while, especially game 3. Rain made it out of his group, only to be defeated by a super hot Taeja, hardly a black mark on his record; it just shows the level Taeja is currently playing at more than anything else. And Maru winning one osl hardly make him a benchmark to judge other players against, just ask seed and sniper.
Soulkey made himself looking better by lacking the need to embarass himself at WCS Season 2 finals (especially since he is so consistently inconsistent :S), and no, Soulkey's status as best zerg in the world (overall, i start to think that jd may have the claims for one of the best zvp's in the world now and scarlett easily gets status of one of best zvters in the world) is yet to be actually rivaled (call me, when Soulkey loses to Pigbaby and PartinG and gets in Code A Ro48 :D). First did perform well , true that. Granted he did perform only on back of his vT match-up and got embarassingly stomped by jd in zvp. If anything naniwa would be preparing for duckdeok and hope to somehow past through terrans, so Innovation's loss there did look awkward (haha, i used this word too!). Innovation vs TaeJa was driven to have one of the best games of the year (other 2 were lackluster IMO) on the back of mech vs bio mechanic in general and Bomber soon have shown that their tvt is just not there. Rain lost to jvp (and now you cannot really blame him for that, haha) and then got stomped in his best match-up with sloppy play everywhere. And Maru losing in his group is just sign that he is heavy preparation based player, that can get hot sometimes. So if you ask me, WCS Korea's representatives except for Bomber did look subpar this weekend.
Dont see why soulkey would have to lose so horribly to be replaced as the best zerg in the world..jaedong already is acknowledged as having some of the best zvz, his zvp has improved tremendously (perhaps to the point of also rivaling the best in the world) and he lost to some very inspired tvz. IMO he already is ahead of soulkey.
You honestly think naniwa would have been more worried about facing duckdeok than innovation? That makes absolutely no sense to me..
And Bomber winning in game 5 in a bo5 means that Taeja's TvT isnt there? Why is that exactly?
As far as Rain goes, Taeja has been playing exceptionally well for a while now..that series was more about him winning than Rain losing.
And that was kinda my point about Maru..he cant really be considered one of the best players in the world just because he won one tourny..and therefore it shouldnt come as some huge shock that he didnt play exceptionally well.
MKP is dragonair, never winning gsl so he can't evolve to dragonite. Maru on the other hand is either salamance or garchomp. Both dragons have very high attack and speed. Maru likes to be aggressive, and is pretty good at ending games fast TBH. the best pokemon to describe Bomber is Slakoth, so much potential, but hindered by his weakness, truant aka bomber law.
On August 28 2013 07:29 Survivor61316 wrote: Gotta say, don't see how Soulkeys status somehow magically goes up because he wasn't able to make it into the season finals..really doesn't make any sense. Even assuming that you were correct is saying that the wcs korea participants did not do well, which i don't agree with, soulkey still wasn't able to even make it to the finals by virtue to losing to those players as well as inferior ones (supernova). If anything, I think the most obvious thing to come out of the finals was jaedong and scarlett usurping him as the best zergs in the world.
As I said though, I also dont agree that the wcs korea participants under performed in the finals. First did not "tread water," he made it to the semi-finals, hardly an unremarkable acheivement, especially as he came in as the 5th seed from korea. Innovation lost to naniwa sure, but isnt that what naniwa has always been good at? Killing off koreans when he has time to prepare for them? Who else would he specifically be preparing for in that group over inno? Also, inno's series vs Taeja was one of the best TvTs in quite a while, especially game 3. Rain made it out of his group, only to be defeated by a super hot Taeja, hardly a black mark on his record; it just shows the level Taeja is currently playing at more than anything else. And Maru winning one osl hardly make him a benchmark to judge other players against, just ask seed and sniper.
Soulkey made himself looking better by lacking the need to embarass himself at WCS Season 2 finals (especially since he is so consistently inconsistent :S), and no, Soulkey's status as best zerg in the world (overall, i start to think that jd may have the claims for one of the best zvp's in the world now and scarlett easily gets status of one of best zvters in the world) is yet to be actually rivaled (call me, when Soulkey loses to Pigbaby and PartinG and gets in Code A Ro48 :D). First did perform well , true that. Granted he did perform only on back of his vT match-up and got embarassingly stomped by jd in zvp. If anything naniwa would be preparing for duckdeok and hope to somehow past through terrans, so Innovation's loss there did look awkward (haha, i used this word too!). Innovation vs TaeJa was driven to have one of the best games of the year (other 2 were lackluster IMO) on the back of mech vs bio mechanic in general and Bomber soon have shown that their tvt is just not there. Rain lost to jvp (and now you cannot really blame him for that, haha) and then got stomped in his best match-up with sloppy play everywhere. And Maru losing in his group is just sign that he is heavy preparation based player, that can get hot sometimes. So if you ask me, WCS Korea's representatives except for Bomber did look subpar this weekend.
Dont see why soulkey would have to lose so horribly to be replaced as the best zerg in the world..jaedong already is acknowledged as having some of the best zvz, his zvp has improved tremendously (perhaps to the point of also rivaling the best in the world) and he lost to some very inspired tvz. IMO he already is ahead of soulkey.
You honestly think naniwa would have been more worried about facing duckdeok than innovation? That makes absolutely no sense to me..
And Bomber winning in game 5 in a bo5 means that Taeja's TvT isnt there? Why is that exactly?
As far as Rain goes, Taeja has been playing exceptionally well for a while now..that series was more about him winning than Rain losing.
And that was kinda my point about Maru..he cant really be considered one of the best players in the world just because he won one tourny..and therefore it shouldnt come as some huge shock that he didnt play exceptionally well.
JD is not ahead in terms of zvt now though, especially considering that soulkey only reliably(!!!) loses to only 1 player in the world in zvt right now (fanboy mode: at other times he is drunk and was only playing arcade games with Innovation and sOs for practice). And their zvz is pretty darn close IMO, considering their records against Korean zergs (JvZ is inflated by foreigners cause dreamhacks). Granted i will say that right now jvp looks better than soulkey's zvp. I, for one, more than sure naniwa did not expect to face innovation at all. And no, i would be more worried about player who had 3-1'd me before, than terran, if i was a protoss. But yes, innovation falling out of group stage IS bad result for player of his caliber. Same as it is bad result from polt to fall out of group stage (well, he fell to First, the guy who only really loses pvts to bomber). Also, losing game 5 is fine result for anyone. Question is HOW you lose it. If ou have seen same game as i did, you will understand what i mean. And i do not blame Rain for losing to Team TaeJa's SummerTaeJa, i blame him for losing those 3 collosi in that game on whirlwind. Maru is simply continuation of random premier tournament winner line IMO. Also, buy me hat to eat if Soulkey does not get Ro16.
the hard thing to judge about soulkey is that him losing to innovation is acceptable in a sense, but he has too few other zvts lately for us to judge. the supernova series cast doubt on his ability, but it's realllly hard to tell if that's supernova being awesome or soulkey failing
On August 28 2013 08:17 Waxangel wrote: the hard thing to judge about soulkey is that him losing to innovation is acceptable in a sense, but he has too few other zvts lately for us to judge. the supernova series cast doubt on his ability, but it's realllly hard to tell if that's supernova being awesome or soulkey failing
Probably combination of both. When you keep meeting up with Bogus and keep losing to him back-to-back-to-back-to-back I bet it would get to you for a while. I wouldn't be surprised if he's second guessing himself even though a lot of the games were fairly close.
Wait..so you are saying that charizard beating articuno in one chapter of the anime was a lie and its not possible? :'( In my opinion charizard is the most badass looking pokemon.
On August 28 2013 08:17 Waxangel wrote: the hard thing to judge about soulkey is that him losing to innovation is acceptable in a sense, but he has too few other zvts lately for us to judge. the supernova series cast doubt on his ability, but it's realllly hard to tell if that's supernova being awesome or soulkey failing
Finally stuff to watch again. I don't care if TI3 was amazing (it was pretty good), because what are you going to do for the rest of the time. Thank god for ongoing starcraft 2 content. It was a rough week with nothing since wcs finals.
On August 28 2013 06:21 opisska wrote: The TL fascination with Pokemon never ceases to puzzle me. The whole idea of Pokemon is so absurd that it is beyond my mental capabilitites to comprehend that someone finds it interesting.
Never mind, noticed the length of game. I suppose it was during period, when Mvp figured out that ghosts are pretty darn good and blizzard did not notice it yet :D
On August 28 2013 09:43 lolfail9001 wrote: Never mind, noticed the length of game. I suppose it was during period, when Mvp figured out that ghosts are pretty darn good and blizzard did not notice it yet :D
On August 28 2013 09:43 lolfail9001 wrote: Never mind, noticed the length of game. I suppose it was during period, when Mvp figured out that ghosts are pretty darn good and blizzard did not notice it yet :D
Whoa it is so crazy how there is literally no downtime between seasons and content now! I dunno if I am ready to start talking notes again. Could've used a week or two to rest my mind and actually learn everything I wrote down throughout season 2.
On August 28 2013 09:47 Bayyne wrote: It was also during the era when Artosis had his famous: "I'M NESTEAAAAAAAA!!!!" and "NU UHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!" quotes reign supreme.
Good times
We may never have those again with how Nestea plays these days.
On August 28 2013 06:21 opisska wrote: The TL fascination with Pokemon never ceases to puzzle me. The whole idea of Pokemon is so absurd that it is beyond my mental capabilitites to comprehend that someone finds it interesting.
Do you also hate kittens, rainbows and vacation?
Fuck kittens. Puppies all the way son.
Literally??? Ew also kittens are mathematically equivalent in cuteness to puppies imo
On August 28 2013 10:50 slowbacontron wrote: Mvp==Pikachu if that wasn't clear already
In it since the beginning, iconic figure of the game
Nestea made it to the top earlier than Mvp did though, and he's still an iconic player even if he's no longer a contender to win tournaments.
I dunno if Pikachu is still considered super good these days, but I imagine his status is similar to that of Mvp's—maybe not the best in the world, but still able to tough it out. And by iconic I really meant something like "most famous" or "greatest".
Actually SoulKey should be Ludicolo because it's the best Pokemon out of this bunch, an annoying defensive motherfucker who has a good place in the metagame atm TL should involve Pkmn in every wrire-up so it can have double traffic really -_-
I hated watching Kespas way of running things. I can't wait to be directly on GomTV with Code S, the epitome of eSports championship skill tests that most of us SC2 people have learned to come and love. I didn't even watch last premier league because it wasn't code S.
On August 28 2013 13:08 Shyndashu wrote: I hated watching Kespas way of running things. I can't wait to be directly on GomTV with Code S, the epitome of eSports championship skill tests that most of us SC2 people have learned to come and love. I didn't even watch last premier league because it wasn't code S.
On August 28 2013 13:08 Shyndashu wrote: I hated watching Kespas way of running things. I can't wait to be directly on GomTV with Code S, the epitome of eSports championship skill tests that most of us SC2 people have learned to come and love. I didn't even watch last premier league because it wasn't code S.
KeSPA isn't even OGN, the TV Channel in Korea that was broadcasting and organizing it.
Can't wait for the season to start I think we might see some of the best plays yet this season
I really like the pokemon comparison and the article as a whole! A little nitpicking: how dare you say that Zapdos is better than Articuno! ... the only think he does better is actually countering the other two legendary beasts due to his lightning type, but Articuno is tons better against any other pokemon but Mewtwo and Mew... unless he freezes them!
I don't get why they alternate...wouldn't it be better if GSL did WCS and OSL was an individual tournament like Dreamhack and MLG just for koreans? They don't even have tournaments apart from Proleague which doesn't even give WCS points. And it doesn't make sense that people like Parting, Flash & co are so low on WCS points (Parting just won WCG if I am not mistaken, still no points). I clearly understand that it's difficult to organize everything, especially with so many partners, but I hope Blizzard encourages 2 or 3 tournaments to be played in korea in the future. In my opinion OSL should be a tier1 tournament while GSL takes care of the WCS considering that OSL gives special prizes as well which makes more sense and that their format is different from WCS America/Europe which doesn't make sense. And everybody would be happy about the Bo1 too
Also, if koreans get more tournaments in Korea then they don't need to travel that much which gives more opportunities for foreigners (and more money as well) allowing Starcraft2 to grow better.
And what about the MSL, is that just for Broodwar?
On August 28 2013 06:21 opisska wrote: The TL fascination with Pokemon never ceases to puzzle me. The whole idea of Pokemon is so absurd that it is beyond my mental capabilitites to comprehend that someone finds it interesting.
Do you also hate kittens, rainbows and vacation?
No, but I would be reluctant to catch kittens in the wild, store them in a timelord-tech dimensioned ball and let the fight each to deatch, even if there will be an infinite amount of rainbows involved.
Also, I spend most of my life on vacation, so your argument is invalid.
On August 28 2013 06:21 opisska wrote: The TL fascination with Pokemon never ceases to puzzle me. The whole idea of Pokemon is so absurd that it is beyond my mental capabilitites to comprehend that someone finds it interesting.
Do you also hate kittens, rainbows and vacation?
No, but I would be reluctant to catch kittens in the wild, store them in a timelord-tech dimensioned ball and let the fight each to deatch, even if there will be an infinite amount of rainbows involved.
Also, I spend most of my life on vacation, so your argument is invalid.
They don't fight to the death, just until KO, so don't worry
On August 29 2013 00:19 Destructicon wrote: The sad thing is I'm more looking forward to the next preview just to see which player is which pokemon, not even interested in the preview itself.
Anyway, if Zealously writes it, you've already the results.
How is Parting Charizard :S Charizard was so dominant in Pokemon i don't see how PartinG could be him now...Unless everyone PartinG faces as of late is a water pokemon?
On August 29 2013 00:22 Pandemona wrote: How is Parting Charizard :S Charizard was so dominant in Pokemon i don't see how PartinG could be him now...Unless everyone PartinG faces as of late is a water pokemon?
If I were in BoxeR's shoes and had to pick someone for the Ace match. I'd pick PartinG over Rain at the moment. With that said, warning spoilers about the sets follow: + Show Spoiler +
On August 28 2013 17:51 SupaDupaFlyPro wrote: I don't get why they alternate...wouldn't it be better if GSL did WCS and OSL was an individual tournament like Dreamhack and MLG just for koreans? They don't even have tournaments apart from Proleague which doesn't even give WCS points. And it doesn't make sense that people like Parting, Flash & co are so low on WCS points (Parting just won WCG if I am not mistaken, still no points). I clearly understand that it's difficult to organize everything, especially with so many partners, but I hope Blizzard encourages 2 or 3 tournaments to be played in korea in the future. In my opinion OSL should be a tier1 tournament while GSL takes care of the WCS considering that OSL gives special prizes as well which makes more sense and that their format is different from WCS America/Europe which doesn't make sense. And everybody would be happy about the Bo1 too
Also, if koreans get more tournaments in Korea then they don't need to travel that much which gives more opportunities for foreigners (and more money as well) allowing Starcraft2 to grow better.
And what about the MSL, is that just for Broodwar?
Well, that was a delightful read! And also, great write and I haven't played a Pokemon game since the original but quite enjoyed the comparisons (especially Zapdos).
On August 29 2013 00:22 Pandemona wrote: How is Parting Charizard :S Charizard was so dominant in Pokemon i don't see how PartinG could be him now...Unless everyone PartinG faces as of late is a water pokemon?
EPT
Woongjin_Soulkey. Soulkey has to be feeling pretty good at the moment, despite not making it to the Season 2 Finals. First off, watching his arch-nemesis Innovation not only fall to Taeja but to Naniwa as well must have felt good. Not only did it embarrass INnoVation, but if further dispelled his air of invincibility. Furthermore, Soulkey somehow came out as a winner in the WCS Korea region by virtue of simply not playing any games at the Season Championship. Maru, Rain, and INnoVation all ended up looking much worse for wear. First was basically just treading water at Cologne. Only Bomber significantly enhanced his reputation, and as a result Soulkey's relative standing in Korea has actually improved.
JinAir_Pigbaby, the player former known has HS, is still somewhat of an enigma. Rarely fielded in Proleague, he just doesn't have that many games on record – certainly not enough to really say what he's like skill wise. We can make some observations: he beat Ragnarok in Code A before falling to Gumiho, and he got out of his Up&Down group by beating Keen, Leenock and Avenge (but losing to Ruin). It's really impressive that Pigbaby could get things together so quickly and make it to Code S after being a fringe player in Proleague, but the question here is about staying power.![[image loading]](/staff/monk/pokemonpsprites/zapdos.png)
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