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WCS S2 Finals: INnoVation - Questions to Answer - Page 9

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Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2956 Posts
August 23 2013 00:33 GMT
#161
I just don't like INnoVation because of his TvZ tbh. I mean, mechanically he's the best player right now, but his play just seems very onedimensional. Watching a Bo7 of MVP, you knew he had a variety of strats prepared to kill the opponent, in a Bo7 of INnoVation it's maybe a proxy 2-rax + 3-4 times (depending on if the 2-rax failed or not) the same normal stuff.
I think in a strategy game, the STRATEGY should play a bigger part in a players strength than it is the case with Bogus, especially in his TvZ. But whatever :-P
_BAR_
Profile Joined April 2013
Canada33 Posts
August 23 2013 00:36 GMT
#162
If Innovation doesn't come out of this group I will probably be more upset then he will. Hopefully though he will do much better then predicted here.

I don't really buy that duckdeok will take down Innovation though. Taeja might be able to but duckdeok and Naniwa will have to cheese like mad if they are up against Innovation to stand a chance as they aren't strong enough to beat him straight up and I think by now Innovation will have caught on as to how to stop them. He may be more brute force oriented then tricky in his playstyle but he didn't get to where he is now without having a very strong understanding of the game. No player is perfect but Innovation will soon start to close up those issues in his game.
There is not enough alcohol in this house to make me dance.
ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
August 23 2013 00:42 GMT
#163
Taeja and Naniwa is what my heart says, but not my head.
Can't wait!
thirtyapm
Profile Joined January 2012
521 Posts
August 23 2013 00:54 GMT
#164
i like them all.

ALL.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
August 23 2013 00:57 GMT
#165
You craycray
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
August 23 2013 02:25 GMT
#166
I get the feeling this will be like waxangel or fionn or who ever it was predicting mvp to lose in gsl.

It won't happen again
asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
August 23 2013 02:29 GMT
#167
standard tl prediction lol
rip prime
xluik
Profile Joined September 2012
201 Posts
August 23 2013 02:45 GMT
#168
TL doubting Innovation lol.. As much as I like Taeja and Naniwa, there is no way Innovation doesn't make it out of this group, much less going out last.
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
August 23 2013 02:47 GMT
#169
thats some anti artosis prediction if i ever seen one
The only virgins in kpop left are the fans
LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
August 23 2013 02:55 GMT
#170
Fun prediction.
DenTenker
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States606 Posts
August 23 2013 03:02 GMT
#171
the best interviewee of all time ... STX SouL's INnoVation.


Brilliant.

Those are some crazy predictions. Never thought I would read that INnoVation was predicted (by this post at least) to not advance. Personally, I think it will be Taeja and INnoVation.
If your all in didn't work, you didn't pull the workers.
Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States881 Posts
August 23 2013 03:28 GMT
#172
I can't see INnoVation or Taeja losing a series to either protoss player; I'm predicting them to come out 1st and 2nd. Considering neither player has been doing spectacularly in TvT, I predict INnoVation's mechanics will give him the edge.
"You know, I don't care if soO got 100 second places in a row. Anyone who doesn't think that he's going to win blizzcon watching this series is a fool" - Artosis, Blizzcon 2014 soO vs TaeJa
FlyingSteaks
Profile Joined April 2012
Brazil433 Posts
August 23 2013 03:41 GMT
#173
Please Innovation, win 4-0 today!
XtreMe_au
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia412 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-23 03:58:21
August 23 2013 03:57 GMT
#174
If one watched Soulkey innovation for WCG 3rd place you can see his style has adjusted a lot and he is way way better at holding pressure/all-ins (yes it is TvZ but similar logic applies). I think he will be ready for this weekend
Marcinko
Profile Joined May 2013
South Africa1014 Posts
August 23 2013 03:58 GMT
#175
The beauty of predictions is, well, it is only a prediction. Would be fun if Zealously pulls the rabit out of the hat and gets it spot on. Just maybe we will see some emotions by INnoVation then. Haha
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imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
August 23 2013 04:29 GMT
#176
amazing how so many ppl are mad and clueless about bogus.
Mad because he doesn't embody the typical winner and doesn't give a shit about the fans.
Clueless because they think he has no strategic depth or that he played greedy in the Maru series. But when TL writers enforce a stereotype (a wrong one for lots of players...) about someone guess the ignorants are gonna stick to it.
Zest fanboy.
izmatic
Profile Joined November 2012
United States104 Posts
August 23 2013 05:29 GMT
#177
On August 23 2013 09:12 WeRRa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 07:35 T0MORR0W wrote:
On August 23 2013 07:20 Bagration wrote:
It would be a surprise if Innovation didn't win his group, much less finish last in his group.

It's funny, Innovation makes it to the Ro4 of the OSL, and qualifies for WCG by getting 3rd at WCG Korea, and these are actually considered bad results for him.

It's not about good or bad results. His every loss puts a crack in his image of untouchable blandness. We don't disbelieve his skill. Rather we hope that one day soon, INnoVation will lose his top spot to somebody who wins with their head rather than their hands. We hope that pure mechanical power is not enough to make somebody a champion, and so we latch onto anything we can to discredit the Vanilla Vanquisher, the Plastic Punisher, the Insipid Imperator, and the Sultan of Somnolence that is INnoVation.

Go non-INnoVation players!

I think Innovation is the best, what could have happend to SC2, to show that this game is more about gimmic strats or play. You need someone you can admire, cause he has more skill and not better strats or gimmic play, he simply says i win vs you, not cause i play this or that, i win cause i'm better. And just to mention, this guy has more than mechanical power, i mean he is so good at adapting to situations, scouting strats and counter them it is crazy, he has a lot what Flash had in BW, but for the simple fact that he isn't a Flash or MVP people don't like him. Well haters gonna hate.
Gogo Innovation show anyone, that the best player in the world should have the most skill and not the fanciest strats or play.


I dont think people liked mvp at first, he was a cheesing mouth breather. dude looks like bubba gump when he plays, but then the pins kept coming and the talk changed. I like innovation for his raw mechanical strength also. i hope theres only 1 finals champ this year and the robot bogus claims his dynasty, then the dissenters will have to kneel.
two wrongs dont make a right, and three rights make a left
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
August 23 2013 05:31 GMT
#178
if someone rly predict innovation go 0-2 thats to crazy
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
August 23 2013 05:39 GMT
#179
On August 23 2013 14:29 izmatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 09:12 WeRRa wrote:
On August 23 2013 07:35 T0MORR0W wrote:
On August 23 2013 07:20 Bagration wrote:
It would be a surprise if Innovation didn't win his group, much less finish last in his group.

It's funny, Innovation makes it to the Ro4 of the OSL, and qualifies for WCG by getting 3rd at WCG Korea, and these are actually considered bad results for him.

It's not about good or bad results. His every loss puts a crack in his image of untouchable blandness. We don't disbelieve his skill. Rather we hope that one day soon, INnoVation will lose his top spot to somebody who wins with their head rather than their hands. We hope that pure mechanical power is not enough to make somebody a champion, and so we latch onto anything we can to discredit the Vanilla Vanquisher, the Plastic Punisher, the Insipid Imperator, and the Sultan of Somnolence that is INnoVation.

Go non-INnoVation players!

I think Innovation is the best, what could have happend to SC2, to show that this game is more about gimmic strats or play. You need someone you can admire, cause he has more skill and not better strats or gimmic play, he simply says i win vs you, not cause i play this or that, i win cause i'm better. And just to mention, this guy has more than mechanical power, i mean he is so good at adapting to situations, scouting strats and counter them it is crazy, he has a lot what Flash had in BW, but for the simple fact that he isn't a Flash or MVP people don't like him. Well haters gonna hate.
Gogo Innovation show anyone, that the best player in the world should have the most skill and not the fanciest strats or play.


I dont think people liked mvp at first, he was a cheesing mouth breather. dude looks like bubba gump when he plays, but then the pins kept coming and the talk changed. I like innovation for his raw mechanical strength also. i hope theres only 1 finals champ this year and the robot bogus claims his dynasty, then the dissenters will have to kneel.


???

MVP was like one of the original macro-terrans along with Jinro and a few others xD. If anything, MVP used to play more lategames than nearly any other player out there. That is, outside of TvP. He's always avoided longer games in that matchup and he became especially known as cheesy during his TvP-filled 4th championship run.
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dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
August 23 2013 05:57 GMT
#180
I am going to disagree with the prediction, Naniwa out in 2. duckdeok and innovation advance
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
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