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WCS S2 Finals: INnoVation - Questions to Answer - Page 12

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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 23 2013 19:05 GMT
#221
On August 24 2013 04:04 dastrokes wrote:
Whatever, still no way Innovation will lose to duckduck.


He's already eliminated bro so it doesn't matter
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asaed
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1412 Posts
August 23 2013 19:06 GMT
#222
Prediction was pretty spot on for how outrageous it was :D! Well played!
Galatians 2:20
DBS
Profile Joined July 2012
515 Posts
August 23 2013 19:07 GMT
#223
On August 24 2013 04:05 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 04:04 dastrokes wrote:
Whatever, still no way Innovation will lose to duckduck.


He's already eliminated bro so it doesn't matter


You've gotta be feeling so good about this
"a pitchfork is for hay. a trident is for killing bitches." -djwheat
Mocking
Profile Joined April 2013
Brazil52 Posts
August 23 2013 19:07 GMT
#224
On August 23 2013 16:10 Elroi wrote:
Now I'm starting to think that the TL writers are trying to do as bad predictions as they can.


(y) :D
Scarlett Jaedong Life Revival Naniwa Dimaga MVP Hyun Snute TLO Vortix Grubby
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 23 2013 19:07 GMT
#225
On August 24 2013 04:04 dastrokes wrote:
Whatever, still no way Innovation will lose to duckduck.


He's out bro, learn the tournament format.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 23 2013 19:08 GMT
#226
On August 23 2013 05:08 shin777 wrote:
hellbat nerf = end of innovation

what do you expect? he was overhyped when he was mere patch terran champ who abused hellbat to death. He's only good for TvZ and that's it. Kinda like forgg who's only good at TvT but sux at other match ups. Era of Innovation was already ended the moment hellnerf implanted. I was sick of his hellbat abuse to mech push or cheese(2 frigging patterns all the time) in tvt anyway. Right now, he's still in round of 4 but you just watch. It will be lucky for him to make it to round of 8 from next season or drop down to code A and struggle there like startale life. Winning season 1 final was too good for patch terran champ anyway. MVP is sitll the king of terran. Innovation has a lot to prove for next 3-4 seasons at least by winning at least 1 or 2 more big championships in korea to be considered world's best. It was a bad joke calling him the best in the world when he abused hellbat and cheese to win his first and will be the only championship. Good bye innovation.

User was temp banned for this post.


We should un-ban this guy.
ADonio
Profile Joined May 2011
Romania1 Post
August 23 2013 19:08 GMT
#227
GJ TAEJA & NANIWA JUST DEFEATED INNOVATION
ADTonio
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 23 2013 19:09 GMT
#228
On August 24 2013 04:07 DBS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 04:05 Zealously wrote:
On August 24 2013 04:04 dastrokes wrote:
Whatever, still no way Innovation will lose to duckduck.


He's already eliminated bro so it doesn't matter


You've gotta be feeling so good about this


You have no idea ^^
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xuanzue
Profile Joined October 2010
Colombia1747 Posts
August 23 2013 19:10 GMT
#229
now predict life champion in wcs 2014

#roadtowcs2014
Dominions 4: "Thrones of Ascension".
Mairo
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden28 Posts
August 23 2013 19:12 GMT
#230
Complete defeat, you were right all along .
Train insane or remain the same.
plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
August 23 2013 19:47 GMT
#231
On August 24 2013 04:04 stuchiu wrote:
The Dream.

The Dream...
vinsang1000
Profile Joined January 2012
Belgium365 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-23 20:11:59
August 23 2013 20:11 GMT
#232
wrong post
DinosaurPoop
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
687 Posts
August 23 2013 20:20 GMT
#233
This prediction has one flaw though,
He predicted NaNiwa to beat duckdeok in 1st match. duckdeok won.
Therefore this set up a duckdeok vs TaeJa winners match, not a NaNiwa vs TaeJa match.
Also NaNiwa vs INnoVation instead of duckdeok vs INnoVation.

otherwise spot on
When cats speak, mice listen.
dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-23 20:38:37
August 23 2013 20:36 GMT
#234
On August 24 2013 04:08 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 05:08 shin777 wrote:
hellbat nerf = end of innovation

what do you expect? he was overhyped when he was mere patch terran champ who abused hellbat to death. He's only good for TvZ and that's it. Kinda like forgg who's only good at TvT but sux at other match ups. Era of Innovation was already ended the moment hellnerf implanted. I was sick of his hellbat abuse to mech push or cheese(2 frigging patterns all the time) in tvt anyway. Right now, he's still in round of 4 but you just watch. It will be lucky for him to make it to round of 8 from next season or drop down to code A and struggle there like startale life. Winning season 1 final was too good for patch terran champ anyway. MVP is sitll the king of terran. Innovation has a lot to prove for next 3-4 seasons at least by winning at least 1 or 2 more big championships in korea to be considered world's best. It was a bad joke calling him the best in the world when he abused hellbat and cheese to win his first and will be the only championship. Good bye innovation.

User was temp banned for this post.


We should un-ban this guy.



innovation went to the round of 4 in his first season of code S during WoL so yeah... his claim that he's a patch terran was silly. His performance today was pretty awful but i'll wait until after code s before i decide whether or not he's washed up. He's a mechanical monster but he's going to need to re-evaluate his strategy and timings because other players have figured them out.


oh and lol @ mvp being king terran, except he doesn't even play in korea anymore...
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 23 2013 20:39 GMT
#235
On August 24 2013 05:36 dutchfriese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 04:08 Dodgin wrote:
On August 23 2013 05:08 shin777 wrote:
hellbat nerf = end of innovation

what do you expect? he was overhyped when he was mere patch terran champ who abused hellbat to death. He's only good for TvZ and that's it. Kinda like forgg who's only good at TvT but sux at other match ups. Era of Innovation was already ended the moment hellnerf implanted. I was sick of his hellbat abuse to mech push or cheese(2 frigging patterns all the time) in tvt anyway. Right now, he's still in round of 4 but you just watch. It will be lucky for him to make it to round of 8 from next season or drop down to code A and struggle there like startale life. Winning season 1 final was too good for patch terran champ anyway. MVP is sitll the king of terran. Innovation has a lot to prove for next 3-4 seasons at least by winning at least 1 or 2 more big championships in korea to be considered world's best. It was a bad joke calling him the best in the world when he abused hellbat and cheese to win his first and will be the only championship. Good bye innovation.

User was temp banned for this post.


We should un-ban this guy.



innovation went to the round of 4 in his first season of code S during WoL so yeah... his claim that he's a patch terran was silly. His performance today was pretty awful but i'll wait until after code s before i decide whether or not he's washed up. He's a mechanical monster but he's going to need to re-evaluate his strategy and timings because other players have figured them out.


oh and lol @ mvp being king terran, except he doesn't even play in korea anymore...


As we saw today, you can be good without playing in Korea ^.-
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dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-23 20:44:54
August 23 2013 20:44 GMT
#236
On August 24 2013 05:39 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 05:36 dutchfriese wrote:
On August 24 2013 04:08 Dodgin wrote:
On August 23 2013 05:08 shin777 wrote:
hellbat nerf = end of innovation

what do you expect? he was overhyped when he was mere patch terran champ who abused hellbat to death. He's only good for TvZ and that's it. Kinda like forgg who's only good at TvT but sux at other match ups. Era of Innovation was already ended the moment hellnerf implanted. I was sick of his hellbat abuse to mech push or cheese(2 frigging patterns all the time) in tvt anyway. Right now, he's still in round of 4 but you just watch. It will be lucky for him to make it to round of 8 from next season or drop down to code A and struggle there like startale life. Winning season 1 final was too good for patch terran champ anyway. MVP is sitll the king of terran. Innovation has a lot to prove for next 3-4 seasons at least by winning at least 1 or 2 more big championships in korea to be considered world's best. It was a bad joke calling him the best in the world when he abused hellbat and cheese to win his first and will be the only championship. Good bye innovation.

User was temp banned for this post.


We should un-ban this guy.



innovation went to the round of 4 in his first season of code S during WoL so yeah... his claim that he's a patch terran was silly. His performance today was pretty awful but i'll wait until after code s before i decide whether or not he's washed up. He's a mechanical monster but he's going to need to re-evaluate his strategy and timings because other players have figured them out.


oh and lol @ mvp being king terran, except he doesn't even play in korea anymore...


As we saw today, you can be good without playing in Korea ^.-



yes you can but wcs europe/america are undeniably easier tournaments and MVP didn't even get out of the group stages last season. Shit.. this tournament is easier than code s/OSL
SeinGalton
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
South Africa387 Posts
August 23 2013 20:50 GMT
#237
Great read on the group, Zealously, I'm at least as happy as your are to see it fulfilled.

Um, so hey, could you predict a Jaedong win in the Grand Finals? Mmm?
They're coming to get you, Barbara.
SamirDuran
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines895 Posts
August 23 2013 21:14 GMT
#238
it was all a dream
Don't practice until you can get it right, practice until you can't get it wrong.
FanaticCZ
Profile Joined December 2011
Czech Republic287 Posts
August 23 2013 22:23 GMT
#239
what the....
INnoVation is the GOAT!
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 23 2013 22:26 GMT
#240
On August 24 2013 07:23 FanaticCZ wrote:
what the....

Surprise!
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