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Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
August 04 2013 08:20 GMT
#141
Idra + Khaldor were pretty good .Would love to watch Idra,Artosis duo! :D
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Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
August 04 2013 08:23 GMT
#142
I still prefer Tastosis due to the chemistry.

Idra and Khaldor really worked well together though, and I thoroughly enjoyed their casting. I hope they team up again soon.
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quirinus
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Croatia2489 Posts
August 04 2013 08:25 GMT
#143
On August 04 2013 12:45 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2013 12:35 dartoo wrote:
the question is....
Idrador, or Khladra? What do we call them?


According to TL+, Khaldra

Khaldra vs Choblash, best casting archon of 2013 grudge match


Kal-Ra

I enjoyed their casting. Idra is so diferent from any other caster that even if it was bad it would be interesting just because it's novel.
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Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-04 08:32:33
August 04 2013 08:31 GMT
#144
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gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
August 04 2013 08:34 GMT
#145
They worked a lot better than I would have expected, especially for a first cast together. Wouldn't call them the best though.
HaRuHi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1220 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-04 08:35:38
August 04 2013 08:35 GMT
#146
Awesome duo, defnitly. But still ... Snute + Socke, that fire, that passion, nothing comes even close.
ErrantKnight
Profile Joined November 2012
Switzerland186 Posts
August 04 2013 08:36 GMT
#147
I think Tastosis is still better, but Khal Idra is really good too, comes in second best. I'd like to see Apollo Idra, that would be epic !
"Quantity is quality by itself"
TheRealArtemis
Profile Joined October 2011
687 Posts
August 04 2013 08:38 GMT
#148
As much as I love the Idra/khal combo, Im still leaning towards the classic Tastetosis. But Khaldor/Idra have definitely become my 2nd choice.
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Peleus
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia420 Posts
August 04 2013 08:40 GMT
#149
I love Idra no matter who he casts with simply because he is the most educated in terms of strategy and has the best game sense of any caster. It's great to see educated input in what's happening with the game.
Pistoche
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada127 Posts
August 04 2013 08:43 GMT
#150
For a first time cast Idra/Khaldor were definitely the best. But something has to be said for years spent together and building up compatibility, therefore, Tasteosis takes the cake in my books.
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Fus
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1112 Posts
August 04 2013 08:44 GMT
#151
Had to vote Apollo, he deserves better than 9%
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habeck
Profile Joined February 2011
1120 Posts
August 04 2013 08:44 GMT
#152
Tastetosis lol at this pool
one-one-one
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden551 Posts
August 04 2013 08:48 GMT
#153
Are you kidding?

idrA has good game sense but is very biased.
This side of him needs to be balanced out by his co-caster.

Unfortunately Khaldor shares the same anti-terran bias, especially when casting TvZ, but also in TvP.
idrA was always very fast to point out that T has mules, but always forgot to mention that P can chronoboost probes.
idrA might get away with it, because he is what he is, but Khaldor doesn't.

They are not completely doomed as a duo because of this, but they have stuff to work...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1BFY4R7IIP4#t=1710s
Sapphire.lux
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania2620 Posts
August 04 2013 08:52 GMT
#154
Idra was very, very good. Glad he got in to casting.
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Loire
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore1358 Posts
August 04 2013 08:53 GMT
#155
It's very good for their first time casting together, IdrA definitely surprised me and i'm kinda glad that he's actually casting now instead of playing full time
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28483 Posts
August 04 2013 08:54 GMT
#156
On August 04 2013 17:25 quirinus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2013 12:45 lichter wrote:
On August 04 2013 12:35 dartoo wrote:
the question is....
Idrador, or Khladra? What do we call them?


According to TL+, Khaldra

Khaldra vs Choblash, best casting archon of 2013 grudge match


Kal-Ra

I enjoyed their casting. Idra is so diferent from any other caster that even if it was bad it would be interesting just because it's novel.

Sorry, but it's KhaldrA. Look, I said so right here:
On August 02 2013 00:41 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2013 00:40 eurTsItniH wrote:
Man I love the Khaldor + Idra combo.

Khaldra <3


But seriously; Why does everything have to be a competition? I enjoyed their cast a lot as do I enjoy several other casters/ duo's. Variety is most important here; I wouldn't want every tournament I watch being casted by the same people. Fortunately that's not necessary (or possible) because we've got quite a few good casters out there.
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KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
August 04 2013 08:59 GMT
#157
IdrA's tone is a bit monotonous for me, and it became quite clear as the days went on that he wasn't used to casting for multiple hours on end, and he'd get tired. I guess that's something he just needs to work on.
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Brian333
Profile Joined August 2010
657 Posts
August 04 2013 09:00 GMT
#158
On August 04 2013 17:12 TRaFFiC wrote:
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On August 04 2013 17:06 Brian333 wrote:
They casted one event... If we're going to use that to qualify a casting duo, there are a lot of casting duos that are better.

Artosis + any number of the people he has casted with (Tasteless, Apollo, Wolf, etc.)
Wolf + any number of the people he has casted with (Whiplash, Artosis, Khaldor)
And, I personally enjoyed Bitterdam more.

Khaldor obviously still has a little accent to his casting. It's not a big deal, but it's still there. He still makes incorrect calls / exaggerates how far ahead / behind a player is and goes overboard bashing players when it's not deserved / a big deal. And, he still makes it hard to take his casting as seriously when he trolls / responds to trolls / holds questionable opinions / biases as much as he currently does.

Idra is a better analyst but he hasn't been a top player in a long time so people should stop pretending that he has the opinions of one or the same intricate understandings of the current meta-game. When you leave that profession because you can't cut it anymore, you can't claim its benefits while not dealing with its burdens. He has way too many biases in his casting and as per his happy birthday Starcraft persona, lacks any and all enthusiasm that is vital to being a good caster. It's just like way back when he casted the GSL. His presentation is lacking.

Idra was playing top level koreans in WCS NA and top of the NA ladder like 1-2 months ago. You don't just lose that kind of talent overnight. And don't give me this bullshit that NA ladder is full of nubs. We're in NA. That's the ladder we play on.

There is a long history of ex players moving to commentary roles in sports. Seems like a natural transition after playing bw and sc2 for years.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not a fan of his personality, but bashing his ability to call games is just stupid.


Revival and Polt are not "top level koreans." Top level Koreans are the likes of Innovation, Flash, Soulkey, Life, Rain, sOs, etc. Also, getting 4-0'd out of the group stage doesn't really help much, anyways. And, that was almost 3 months ago. Take any pro-gamer out of their practice environment for 3 months and see how much they regress vs. the rest of the still-active and rapidly changing scene.

I'm not the one that is exaggerating here. Am I wrong to say that Idra is no longer a pro-gamer? So, why should we consider his opinion on that level? That's all I'm saying. You can't have your cake and eat it, too.
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
August 04 2013 09:02 GMT
#159
Very enjoyable casting duo, but the best? No, I prefer Tastosis
Get off my lawn, young punks
VieuxSinge
Profile Joined February 2011
France231 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-04 09:05:54
August 04 2013 09:04 GMT
#160
While I love apollo, I have to say Idra + Khaldor was great

edit : KhaldrA or Idhor?
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