Nobody beats Tastless and Artosis on downtime...

Khaldor & Idra is okay. I guess Idra is a person who only respcets those with enough knowledge or the upper body strength to punch his skull in, khal dor has both

Greendotz

United Kingdom2053 Posts

August 04 2013 14:00 GMT

#285

On August 04 2013 22:43 Maxhster wrote:

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way to go ad hominem...
this thread is just wrong on so many levels. Just because IdrA is such a popular figure for being such a douche.

You know what's really wrong on so many levels? Crime in multi-storey car parks. I find it funny how you mention "ad hominem" when it's clear that you really don't care that we're talking about casters over players, you just don't like the fact that one of those casters is Idra.

Yeah, I hated the guy too, as a player his attitude was appalling and immature, and he did deserve to get kicked off EG (imo) but ultimately he never hurt anyone (unless you are of an incredibly sensitive disposition) so why continue to hold it against him. Also he's not like that when he's casting, he's actually very professional, the only hint of "old-Idra" I got was when he was going on about how bad Efli is as a player. That behaviour isn't exclusive to Idra, just like the time Apollo called JohnnyReco "the biggest patch zerg of wings".

E.L.V.I.S

Belgium458 Posts

August 04 2013 14:01 GMT

#286

khaldor + artosis is the best imo

Arnstein

Norway3381 Posts

August 04 2013 14:02 GMT

#287

I'm really happy to see Idra happy! As a progamer you could see that he wasn't having a good time, but it looked like he really enjoyed casting, and he was good at doing it too!

Mordiford

4448 Posts

August 04 2013 14:07 GMT

#288

I feel like one of my absolute favorite casting duos isn't even listed in the poll, so I just voted for Tastosis.

I think Bitterdam and Tastosis are easily the best pair of casters out there right now, just really personalities and ability to play off each other.

Mathematics

Belgium35 Posts

August 04 2013 14:13 GMT

#289

I think Apollo and Artosis makes one hell of a nice combo! Voted Tastosis though!

Insurrectionist

Norway141 Posts

August 04 2013 14:13 GMT

#290

I can't believe Apollo+Artosis aren't on the poll and winning hard.

Zax19

Czech Republic1136 Posts

August 04 2013 14:16 GMT

#291

Total Grack was a bit better, more interaction and also this time Idra was doing too much play by play.

Dexington

Canada7276 Posts

August 04 2013 14:17 GMT

#292

Bitterdam is the best. Tasteless doesn't add anything to casts other than random jokes, I don't get why people still cling to them.

TeeTS

Germany2762 Posts

August 04 2013 14:18 GMT

#293

They were good. But pls no overhype, I can't stand that.
Nothing new, that Khaldor is a great caster. I still prefer DoA and MonteChristo.

Magnifico

1958 Posts

August 04 2013 14:19 GMT

#294

Its strange how people put relevance on "fun factor". Can be nice here and there of course, but I don't want casters focusing on being funny. I'm worried that the kind of feedback in this thread could lead to it.

SpikeStarcraft

Germany2095 Posts

August 04 2013 14:19 GMT

#295

bitterdam disqualified for mentioning wot all the time.

Epamynondas

387 Posts

August 04 2013 14:21 GMT

#296

The best possible casting duo would be ToD+IdrA. Maximum bias for maximum entertainment.

Maybe throw a qxc or avilo in there for good measure.

one-one-one

Sweden551 Posts

August 04 2013 14:21 GMT

#297

On August 04 2013 22:42 Plansix wrote:

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On August 04 2013 21:45 one-one-one wrote:

On August 04 2013 21:25 Plansix wrote:

On August 04 2013 21:13 one-one-one wrote:

On August 04 2013 19:23 NovemberstOrm wrote:

On August 04 2013 19:21 Gr33n wrote:

On August 04 2013 19:18 Liquid`Ret wrote:
I loved these two, Khaldor really let Idra do the analytical casting and they were funny together and just worked well together! I think WCS NA should def. get Idra as a regular caster, it really improves the watching experience if the casters actually know what they are talking about.........

so we are in agreement. if you enjoyed idra you are prob high masters to pro level, if you like artosis and tasteless you 1 base and are in silver

is this fair to say? i believe so

what?

On August 04 2013 17:48 one-one-one wrote:
Are you kidding?

idrA has good game sense but is very biased.
This side of him needs to be balanced out by his co-caster.

Unfortunately Khaldor shares the same anti-terran bias, especially when casting TvZ, but also in TvP.
idrA was always very fast to point out that T has mules, but always forgot to mention that P can chronoboost probes.
idrA might get away with it, because he is what he is, but Khaldor doesn't.

They are not completely doomed as a duo because of this, but they have stuff to work...

Everyone has bias whether it's for a race, their favorite players or whatever else it may be.

Lol. Your completely missed my point.
The point is that _both_ casters share the same anti-terran and pro-zerg bias. This is why Khaldor is not a good co-caster to idrA.

Sign, this again. You know Artosis loves mech? Does that mean we can't pair him with another mech loving casters? At the end of the day, as long as they are funny and amusing, their bias is a minor problem.

Sign?
You mean "Sigh"?

Loving mech is not that same as having a mech bias. And besides, SC2 could use a bit more mech.
I would love to see Artosis cast together with Avilo and Goody. Great idea you gave me!

Commentating a game requires you to be as unbiased as possible. This is an accepted fact in all major sports.
There is room for some bias, but never for having two commentators with the same bias.

So wait, you want to hear Avilo cast, but yet you complain about bias in casting? I think we all have a clear picture of what type of bias you would be totally fine with.

Hah! You walked right into my trap.
I figured that you would

I knew you would remark on avilo, but you were the one saying it was fine to put mech-loving casters together. I never said anything about avilo casting alone. In fact, my whole point coming into this discussion is that casters should be picked so that their bias is balanced out as much as possible.

You are too predictable.

Elwar

953 Posts

August 04 2013 14:23 GMT

#298

I didn't think Idra was an especially good caster. Analysis or color commentary.

Wingblade

United States1806 Posts

August 04 2013 14:29 GMT

#299

Idras casting was pretty solid but his tendency to say something was unbeatable was kinda obnoxious, especially when it was then beaten. Perfect example was Lucifron V. Gosuuser on Newkirk. Lucifron got his turtle mech play well set up and around 30-35 minutes Idra commented about how unbeatable it was. And then... We watched Gosuuser beat it pretty easily.