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sMiAthena
Profile Joined July 2013
United States9 Posts
August 01 2013 02:01 GMT
#101
and my name is Athena, idk, ive just always used that name since sc/bw days..always was big into greek mythology, and "athena" in particular grabbed my attention.
GoGo sMi Fighting (Q'.')=Q (*_-)
leova
Profile Joined April 2011
266 Posts
August 01 2013 02:02 GMT
#102
crap like this is why esports struggles to achieve legitimacy
lying scumbag players, naive stupid teams, and foolish managers WHO BASE BUSINESS DECISIONS ON FREAKING SKYPE CONVOS

just LOLs all over the place
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10045 Posts
August 01 2013 02:02 GMT
#103
cool ty
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Unexpected
Profile Joined November 2011
United States13 Posts
August 01 2013 02:02 GMT
#104
Anderson Barrett was boosted to GM by myself and a few others.


So you boosted from bronze to gold and the "few others" got him to GM? Is it possible to boost someone to GM without being in GM yourself? These are the questions we must ask ourselves.
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
August 01 2013 02:02 GMT
#105
On August 01 2013 10:59 sMiAthena wrote:
there was no negative to the players or smi. the fact is there was a lot that happened behind the scenes w/ text or phone calls, and random fights within the team. they act as if i didnt take a hit as well. they act as if they are the only victims in this.

the sponsor: personally sponsored me and my LoL team himself. then i was in a bad car accident, i was forced to move back to texas, due to the fact i needed some help during my recovery state.

i do wish sMi the best of luck, but i think the actions that have taken place was out of line, especially targeting ME and ONLY me, when im not the one who did all of this. so what if i have 2 things on my "pending" record, people make mistakes. but i guess they are all perfect.

i personally did not make these promises to these players. this is what the sponsor and myself worked out and agreed on, so this is what i was able to offer to them.

of course maybe i didnt take pics or anything RIGHT away when they asked, im sorry but when i spend 8+ hours a day w/ the team and i choose to go out for a night or something, i think i have the right to do that.

anyways, GL sMi wish you the best.
i know things are not do good for you guys, nor me, but please keep in your heart that it wasnt ME who did this.


+ Show Spoiler +
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Don't play the victim, we aren't as naive as that team was at first
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
MadVillian
Profile Joined September 2011
United States127 Posts
August 01 2013 02:02 GMT
#106
On August 01 2013 10:59 sMiAthena wrote:
there was no negative to the players or smi. the fact is there was a lot that happened behind the scenes w/ text or phone calls, and random fights within the team. they act as if i didnt take a hit as well. they act as if they are the only victims in this.

the sponsor: personally sponsored me and my LoL team himself. then i was in a bad car accident, i was forced to move back to texas, due to the fact i needed some help during my recovery state.

i do wish sMi the best of luck, but i think the actions that have taken place was out of line, especially targeting ME and ONLY me, when im not the one who did all of this. so what if i have 2 things on my "pending" record, people make mistakes. but i guess they are all perfect.

i personally did not make these promises to these players. this is what the sponsor and myself worked out and agreed on, so this is what i was able to offer to them.

of course maybe i didnt take pics or anything RIGHT away when they asked, im sorry but when i spend 8+ hours a day w/ the team and i choose to go out for a night or something, i think i have the right to do that.

anyways, GL sMi wish you the best.
i know things are not do good for you guys, nor me, but please keep in your heart that it wasnt ME who did this.



Dude, just leave while you can, no one on here believes a word you say. Not to mention the sponsor you had isn't a real person and your LoL team was made up probably while you were getting that REM. You brought this on yourself, and you look like a pedo.
In there like swimwear.
Sokrates
Profile Joined May 2012
738 Posts
August 01 2013 02:03 GMT
#107
sMiAthena doesnt seem to be the sharpest tool in the shed.

It was also really naiv of the other smi guys to play along for such a long time after a person made such shady excuses.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10045 Posts
August 01 2013 02:04 GMT
#108
On August 01 2013 11:01 sMiAthena wrote:
and my name is Athena, idk, ive just always used that name since sc/bw days..always was big into greek mythology, and "athena" in particular grabbed my attention.


i myself have always been a fan of ares, wat are ur thoughts on pseudologoi?
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
DirtyBirD
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States239 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 02:06:41
August 01 2013 02:04 GMT
#109
On August 01 2013 11:01 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 10:59 Days wrote:
On August 01 2013 10:58 TT1 wrote:
why is his name athena..



LOL tt1 still stuck on why his name is athena xD


its the simple things in life that matter

You're really helping me smile through this whole ordeal at the moment with your posts about his ID. lol Thanks.

Edit: TT1 = Superman?
sMi.DirtyBirD
LuckyStarcraft2
Profile Joined October 2010
United States33 Posts
August 01 2013 02:04 GMT
#110
LOL

User was warned for this post
fad
Rickyvalle21
Profile Joined July 2012
United States320 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 02:16:35
August 01 2013 02:06 GMT
#111
LOL. I should have mentioned this before but NaNocloud is a huge huge fraud. He claimed to be the account Anonymous/STxSoulbyun on NA ladder just because he was on the account and I knew it was Neeb and told everyone he's a top 16 grandmaster. Can we get Neeb to confirm this? Not sure why he would let him on his account other then paying him money. He's lying right now by saying he's leveling other peoples acc when its not really even him who's doing the leveling. BTW if you want to deny this. I already have proof and I have others who can confirm this.
people say practice is perfect but if nothing is perfect whats the point in practicing?
Days
Profile Joined February 2010
United States219 Posts
August 01 2013 02:07 GMT
#112
On August 01 2013 10:59 sMiAthena wrote:
there was no negative to the players or smi. the fact is there was a lot that happened behind the scenes w/ text or phone calls, and random fights within the team. they act as if i didnt take a hit as well. they act as if they are the only victims in this.

the sponsor: personally sponsored me and my LoL team himself. then i was in a bad car accident, i was forced to move back to texas, due to the fact i needed some help during my recovery state.

i do wish sMi the best of luck, but i think the actions that have taken place was out of line, especially targeting ME and ONLY me, when im not the one who did all of this. so what if i have 2 things on my "pending" record, people make mistakes. but i guess they are all perfect.

i personally did not make these promises to these players. this is what the sponsor and myself worked out and agreed on, so this is what i was able to offer to them.

of course maybe i didnt take pics or anything RIGHT away when they asked, im sorry but when i spend 8+ hours a day w/ the team and i choose to go out for a night or something, i think i have the right to do that.

anyways, GL sMi wish you the best.
i know things are not do good for you guys, nor me, but please keep in your heart that it wasnt ME who did this.

Why are you still trying to play victim?! Why would there be a pro LoL team that makes Kelly 200,000 a year when they don't even have a working website??! If you google "visionary gaming" and LoL you get NOTHING. Just a couple of forum posts....
We buy things we don't need, with money we don't have, to impress people we don't like.
yyz
Profile Joined January 2012
United States18 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 02:12:00
August 01 2013 02:08 GMT
#113
On August 01 2013 10:59 sMiAthena wrote:
i know things are not do good for you guys, nor me, but please keep in your heart that it wasnt ME who did this.


I've been sitting at my computer for the past 20 minutes trying to figure out how you manage to be this brainless merely by nature and not on purpose. I can't even comprehend why you're trying to play the victim at this point with so much evidence against you.

It's gg no re, bro.

Best of luck to sMi and their players. A lot of them have talent. sMi hwaiting~~

Also, reading this I can't help but think DirtyBirD and rei should have blown the whistle a bit earlier. I read along and went "red flag" more than a few times before DirtyBirD said he ran background checks. Frankly, I think that should have happened as soon as he said he wanted to sponsor you. It just seems like the safest route to any sponsorship or anything involving money. I understand how busy the managers were, but hopefully if/when they nab another sponsorship proposal they do their research first.


High masters Terran playing for the University of Maryland: College Park | Citius, altius, fortius.
Unexpected
Profile Joined November 2011
United States13 Posts
August 01 2013 02:09 GMT
#114
On August 01 2013 11:06 Rickyvalle21 wrote:
LOL. I should have mentioned this before but NaNocloud is a huge huge fraud. He claimed to be the account Anonymous/STxSouldbyun on NA ladder just because he was on the account and I knew it was Neeb and told everyone he's a top 16 grandmaster. Can we get Neeb to confirm this? Not sure why he would let him on his account other then paying him money. He's lying right now by saying he's leveling other peoples acc when its not really even him who's doing the leveling. BTW if you want to deny this. I already have proof and I have others who can confirm this.


#realtalk
sMiAthena
Profile Joined July 2013
United States9 Posts
August 01 2013 02:09 GMT
#115
well there is a post about me? and all the blame is towards me...

when the post is false.

later.
GoGo sMi Fighting (Q'.')=Q (*_-)
sMi.SyMPhOnY
Profile Joined December 2006
United States226 Posts
August 01 2013 02:10 GMT
#116
On August 01 2013 10:59 IcedBacon wrote:
Read the whole thing because I was bored, but goddamn you guys played along WAY too long. So obvious it was bullshit early on :p


it's easy to point out when you have the facts laid out all infront of you like this. I'm not going to lie, in hindsight we were very naive. The single and most important factor that made us believe in him was that he spent 2 months of gaming literally 5-7 hours a day with a couple of us on skype. We very grew close as friends and had no reason not to trust him. He also never asked us to put any money in it (minus nanocloud boosting his account); we weren't losing anything really because at the time sMi had nothing (money, sponsorships, top tier players, etc).


This is a very sad thing to happen, but I did get to meet a lot of incredible people and have learned worlds since the beginning of this whole ordeal.


I am confident sMi will stay strong
:)
LuckyStarcraft2
Profile Joined October 2010
United States33 Posts
August 01 2013 02:12 GMT
#117
Rickyvalle21, you are 100% correct in this, Team SCA after having feeling "NanoCloud" isn't who he is we did investigating of our own. We have several replays of Nanocloud playing with 3-4 different hotkey setups and one when he is playing Zerg. We've also talked to people in Milad's CSL team who have told Nanocloud he is a Gold level zerg player. The only time a replay looked like it was actually Nanocloud was when he was playing Zerg in the replay. We believe he is paying several other players to level his account. But we didn't come forth with this. Because people like him really aren't worth our time. He'll just deny it and refuse to play you to prove it to you unless you give him a certain time to get his leveler on. We also compared Neeb's hotkeys with Nano's so we also know it isn't Neeb boosting him. But someone else.
fad
SkaPunk
Profile Joined October 2010
United States471 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 02:12:40
August 01 2013 02:12 GMT
#118
On August 01 2013 11:07 Days wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 10:59 sMiAthena wrote:
there was no negative to the players or smi. the fact is there was a lot that happened behind the scenes w/ text or phone calls, and random fights within the team. they act as if i didnt take a hit as well. they act as if they are the only victims in this.

the sponsor: personally sponsored me and my LoL team himself. then i was in a bad car accident, i was forced to move back to texas, due to the fact i needed some help during my recovery state.

i do wish sMi the best of luck, but i think the actions that have taken place was out of line, especially targeting ME and ONLY me, when im not the one who did all of this. so what if i have 2 things on my "pending" record, people make mistakes. but i guess they are all perfect.

i personally did not make these promises to these players. this is what the sponsor and myself worked out and agreed on, so this is what i was able to offer to them.

of course maybe i didnt take pics or anything RIGHT away when they asked, im sorry but when i spend 8+ hours a day w/ the team and i choose to go out for a night or something, i think i have the right to do that.

anyways, GL sMi wish you the best.
i know things are not do good for you guys, nor me, but please keep in your heart that it wasnt ME who did this.

Why are you still trying to play victim?! Why would there be a pro LoL team that makes Kelly 200,000 a year when they don't even have a working website??! If you google "visionary gaming" and LoL you get NOTHING. Just a couple of forum posts....


At least y'all got scammed by an extremely well written and intelligent guy! Who also is fantastic with capitalization!
Team Fallacy
::Rhapsody
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada124 Posts
August 01 2013 02:12 GMT
#119
Why is Athena still posting lol..
MadVillian
Profile Joined September 2011
United States127 Posts
August 01 2013 02:12 GMT
#120
On August 01 2013 11:06 Rickyvalle21 wrote:
LOL. I should have mentioned this before but NaNocloud is a huge huge fraud. He claimed to be the account Anonymous/STxSouldbyun on NA ladder just because he was on the account and I knew it was Neeb and told everyone he's a top 16 grandmaster. Can we get Neeb to confirm this? Not sure why he would let him on his account other then paying him money. He's lying right now by saying he's leveling other peoples acc when its not really even him who's doing the leveling. BTW if you want to deny this. I already have proof and I have others who can confirm this.


Trust me when I say this we have been down this road. Only thing he can do to prove his legitimacy is stream himself playing some games with a webcam. Everyone else can choose to believe every word he says blindly if they choose. He dodged last time real hard. Also he is good friends with Neeb.
In there like swimwear.
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