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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10010 Posts
August 01 2013 01:32 GMT
#61
On August 01 2013 10:07 sMiAthena wrote:
the funny thing is, sMi takes what they want, and put it on blast on TL, and so i been arrested twice? its not end of the world? nor was a convicted of anything...

amd getting money out of the team? not once did i ask money from them, and rei even offered me $200 of his personal money to help w/ things and i rejected it.

THEN one of their members decided to log on my skype and message people saying rude / negative things. such as to desrow,days, and other players.

these statements : false, they only take the things they want and put it on blast.


GL-.-GG


kinda off topic but why do u have a chix name? are u into all that falsifying identification/bondage stuff?
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
thebig1
Profile Joined March 2011
248 Posts
August 01 2013 01:33 GMT
#62
I agree, the best way to come off as trustworthy is starting your post with "Yeah, I was arrested twice for fraud, but I never got charged for it because the evidence they had wasn't as tight as they thought it was."
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
August 01 2013 01:34 GMT
#63
On August 01 2013 10:22 Torte de Lini wrote:
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THEN one of their members decided to log on my skype and message people saying rude / negative things. such as to desrow,days, and other players.


tradition says you usually blame a younger brother


Or maybe his dog ate his homework
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
August 01 2013 01:34 GMT
#64
On August 01 2013 10:07 sMiAthena wrote:
the funny thing is, sMi takes what they want, and put it on blast on TL, and so i been arrested twice? its not end of the world? nor was a convicted of anything...

amd getting money out of the team? not once did i ask money from them, and rei even offered me $200 of his personal money to help w/ things and i rejected it.

THEN one of their members decided to log on my skype and message people saying rude / negative things. such as to desrow,days, and other players.

these statements : false, they only take the things they want and put it on blast.


GL-.-GG


Man I'm blushing now, Anderson you make me look good, i appreciate this.
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
HTOMario
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States439 Posts
August 01 2013 01:34 GMT
#65
On August 01 2013 10:15 sMiAthena wrote:
caught w/ nothing, the fact they post certain things, but they dont post everything that went down.


I don't think you're welcome here.
GM Mech T
agahamsorr0w
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands359 Posts
August 01 2013 01:37 GMT
#66
im sry this happened but you should do your research on the people you work with before signing anything. If they tell you to hurry etc, just tell them to wait or deal is off.
::Rhapsody
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada124 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 02:08:05
August 01 2013 01:40 GMT
#67
So did that guy actually get money?
I can't understand how you guys got fooled. This is so childishly stupid. Best of luck with other sponsors.
sMiAthena
Profile Joined July 2013
United States9 Posts
August 01 2013 01:40 GMT
#68
well rei people say i was trying to take money from the team...which isnt true...i dont know where that came from..so figured i would clear that one up
GoGo sMi Fighting (Q'.')=Q (*_-)
SkaPunk
Profile Joined October 2010
United States471 Posts
August 01 2013 01:41 GMT
#69
You know maybe it was sMi's own fault , but I think y'all should give them a break. As management for an amateur team myself, breaking into the pro scene with sponsors and having a solid team is the holy frail. If people offer you money and write up what look like legit contracts it's easy to over look some details. if a guy has a good reputation, history with the team and a relationship with the players I can see how it would seem fairly reasonable of them to wait for money and not look a gift horse in the mouth. Bottom line is this guy is a sketchy as whole who needs to get what's coming to him.
Team Fallacy
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9104 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 01:42:10
August 01 2013 01:41 GMT
#70
Wow... seems like there was a good share of people being dumb all around. Seems like the guy Athena might be a chronic liar is all.

I haven't played SC2 in ages... but pretty sure last time I checked not like sMi has any money to take lol. We did make a few shirts once, NonY has one!
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
August 01 2013 01:41 GMT
#71
On August 01 2013 10:19 rei wrote:
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On August 01 2013 09:59 Penguin7 wrote:
so why did anderson message desrow, was desrow involved?


Anderson mention many times that he is bring desrow and major into the team, but I refuted him and insisted that I will have no des nor row in my house, because me and desrow don't see eye to eye on things, and we had a little history that some of you guys might know.

That being said, without any evidence of how desrow is involved in this and why anderson is communicating with desrow and letting him know the plan has failed. Let's use logic to reason this out, let's suppose desrow is in it with anderson, and their objective was to make money, how is desrow being on smi help them scam money off the team? I can't think of anything that is reasonable, let's suppose they managed to get enough big name players on false promises and use the player's reputation to attract a real sponsorship. But reputation of desrow and major? They hasn't won anything meaningful since sc2 was in beta, nobody would sponsor a team with these 2 players.

The above is a negative proof that desrow is not involve by going through the logic on how he could not scam team smi for money if he was involved.


Sigh this is exactly why I asked to be removed from the OP. He added me on skype and I wanted to hear what he had to offer while knowing how shady of a reputation he had. I've been a good acquaintance of JimRising for about a year so once Jim told me sMi was breaking promises with, I copypasted those logs to Jim as soon as possible. The OP never asked my permission to post those logs and that's unfortunate.
http://twitch.tv/desrowfighting http://twitter.com/desrowfighting http://facebook.com/desrowfighting
DirtyBirD
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States239 Posts
August 01 2013 01:41 GMT
#72
I'm honestly not sure if he thought he would make money off the team or if he was just really wanting to play the role of a huge troll. I've thought about that a lot and for a while now.
sMi.DirtyBirD
JimRising
Profile Joined September 2010
Mexico52 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 01:42:35
August 01 2013 01:41 GMT
#73
I'm scared Anderson Barrett jr. have my all information address and other things but no problem i have DLords protecting me

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Trying to do my best =)
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9104 Posts
August 01 2013 01:43 GMT
#74
On August 01 2013 10:41 DirtyBirD wrote:
I'm honestly not sure if he thought he would make money off the team or if he was just really wanting to play the role of a huge troll. I've thought about that a lot and for a while now.


Probably just trolling. I mean, I can't think of what rationale he could come up with for you to give him anything.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10010 Posts
August 01 2013 01:43 GMT
#75
On August 01 2013 10:41 FXOJimRising wrote:
I'm scared Anderson Barrett jr. have my all information address and other things but no problem i have DLords protecting me

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wtf LOL
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
DirtyBirD
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States239 Posts
August 01 2013 01:43 GMT
#76
On August 01 2013 10:41 desRow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 10:19 rei wrote:
On August 01 2013 09:59 Penguin7 wrote:
so why did anderson message desrow, was desrow involved?


Anderson mention many times that he is bring desrow and major into the team, but I refuted him and insisted that I will have no des nor row in my house, because me and desrow don't see eye to eye on things, and we had a little history that some of you guys might know.

That being said, without any evidence of how desrow is involved in this and why anderson is communicating with desrow and letting him know the plan has failed. Let's use logic to reason this out, let's suppose desrow is in it with anderson, and their objective was to make money, how is desrow being on smi help them scam money off the team? I can't think of anything that is reasonable, let's suppose they managed to get enough big name players on false promises and use the player's reputation to attract a real sponsorship. But reputation of desrow and major? They hasn't won anything meaningful since sc2 was in beta, nobody would sponsor a team with these 2 players.

The above is a negative proof that desrow is not involve by going through the logic on how he could not scam team smi for money if he was involved.


Sigh this is exactly why I asked to be removed from the OP. He added me on skype and I wanted to hear what he had to offer while knowing how shady of a reputation he had. I've been a good acquaintance of JimRising for about a year so once Jim told me sMi was breaking promises with, I copypasted those logs to Jim as soon as possible. The OP never asked my permission to post those logs and that's unfortunate.

And I redacted your name as soon as you asked me to.
sMi.DirtyBirD
GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
August 01 2013 01:44 GMT
#77
what if its all a lie to help team get real sponsors :O
Snipers Promod & Micro Arena Creator in SC2 Arcade - Portuguese Community Admin for SC2, HotS and Overwatch - Ex-Portugal SC2 Team Manager, Ex- Copenhagen Wolves and Grow uP Gaming Manager in SC2. Just Playing games now!
NanoClouD
Profile Joined June 2013
25 Posts
August 01 2013 01:44 GMT
#78
On August 01 2013 10:25 MadVillian wrote:
Sorry it unfolded the way it did for you guys at sMi, but tbh I am sure most of the people familiar with the situation knew you guys were being scammed. Also, as much as I feel for some of the players on your team, there are a select few that are fakes and frauds (not just Athena). I am sure the real talent will find a home with new teams.

Thanks for giving us the full story! :D



Thanks Brad. Dont worry too much, we will find new homes on credible teams! Teams that have actual sponsors. I wish SCA the best.
aMEkaRmy
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada633 Posts
August 01 2013 01:44 GMT
#79
On August 01 2013 10:41 FXOJimRising wrote:
I'm scared Anderson Barrett jr. have my all information address and other things but no problem i have DLords protecting me

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HAHAHAHAHA I love you jimothy.
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NanoClouD
Profile Joined June 2013
25 Posts
August 01 2013 01:45 GMT
#80
On August 01 2013 10:17 .SCArebOrn wrote:
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On August 01 2013 10:04 RemarK wrote:
A surprising turn of events

sMi

It sounded really sketchy since the beginning when we were explained by a former teammate on what was going on, I wouldn't say I'm surprised at all. All the best towards the players though, some of them are really good.


Thank you, that means a lot coming from an SCA player. We will keep the community updated with any new teams/developments!
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