• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 00:35
CEST 06:35
KST 13:35
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy18ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
$5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy2GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding3Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win0[BSL22] RO32 Group Stage4Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6
StarCraft 2
General
Quebec Clan still alive ? BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info
Tourneys
GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding $5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion so ive been playing broodwar for a week straight. Gypsy to Korea Pros React To: JaeDong vs Queen [BSL22] RO32 Group Stage
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL22] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CEST [BSL22] RO32 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CEST 🌍 Weekly Foreign Showmatches
Strategy
Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Trading/Investing Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Loot Boxes—Emotions, And Why…
TrAiDoS
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1759 users

WCS Season 2 Regional League Finals Dates - Page 19

Forum Index > SC2 General
807 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 17 18 19 20 21 41 Next All
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 23 2013 00:22 GMT
#361
On July 23 2013 09:19 dcsoda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 09:17 Tunga wrote:
For the people defending blizzard, ask yourself how it makes sense to have all 3 qualifiers on the same weekend. If you're only a SC2 fan that's the main issue here. People try to schedule their lives and sleep schedule around certain matches, but having them in the same weekend back to back is just expecting your viewers not to have lives or enjoy sleep at all. So not only is it split between viewers in different games, it's split between viewers and their tolerance.

I see no answer other than Blizzard just planned poorly and did their best to cram it all in 3 weekends.


I watch what I can live and then watch the VODs of the other stuff if I can. Like I always have.

Yeah, I don't have time for all those games. I'll catch up if necessary.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
July 23 2013 00:22 GMT
#362
On July 23 2013 09:17 Tunga wrote:
For the people defending blizzard, ask yourself how it makes sense to have all 3 qualifiers on the same weekend. If you're only a SC2 fan that's the main issue here. People try to schedule their lives and sleep schedule around certain matches, but having them in the same weekend back to back is just expecting your viewers not to have lives or enjoy sleep at all. So not only is it split between viewers in different games, it's split between viewers and their tolerance.

I see no answer other than Blizzard just planned poorly and did their best to cram it all in 3 weekends.


Even if you don't give a damn about Dota, putting it on the same weekend as TI3 means that their stream will suck hardcore for the whole weekend. Dota has some sort of way to circumvent that problem with DotaTV but SC2 is going to suffer heavily from technical problems.
theking1
Profile Joined June 2013
Romania658 Posts
July 23 2013 00:22 GMT
#363
riot scheduled around ti3 because lol and dota are direct competitors and do not want to be humiliated by dota2.They always want to have the"we are more succesfull than dota2 mantra on their shoulders.".Even a regional lcs being surpassed by ti3 would mean a big blow to the lol "we always have more viewers on twitch no matter what" propaganda machine.Riot would lose a lot more money on the long run if they would be surpassed by dota2 than blizzard.This and the fact that dota is miles ahead of lol in terms of fan involvement and fans supporting the scene.Valve is doing a good job.Hopefully blizzard will do the same
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 00:26:27
July 23 2013 00:22 GMT
#364
On July 23 2013 08:43 Esoterikk wrote:
Not surprised Blizzard isn't backing down, they have pretty inflated self worth in esports and as a company generally think they can do no wrong and are right in all situations. Oh well, this isn't going to hurt TI3 viewership at all but SC2 is going to miss out on a metric ton of potential views by being stupid.

They hired and supported Jay Wilson dismantling Diablo 3 so horribly that the console ports will actually be better versions of the game. This isn't surprising, unfortunately. Blizzard doesn't have the same talent it did in 1998. This also makes blizzard look a bit petulant and childish. If they REALLY wanted to make this happen at a different time they could, or perhaps they planned it that poorly?
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 00:47:04
July 23 2013 00:23 GMT
#365
I'm actually more pissed off about the fact that WCS KR is done with their semis on August 1st while AM and EU don't even start their fucking RO16 until August 5th. What the fuck? So the WCS KR players get well over a week to sit around and prepare for finals, watch all their potential opponents games thoroughly?

I thought the whole point of WCS was to even the playing field for everyone, not suck Korea's dick even harder. What gives?

If they continue this stupid tournament next year, they really, really, REALLY fucking need to enforce everyone playing the same format, or else what is the FUCKING point?
www.twitch.tv/krazy Best Stream Quality NA @KClarkSC2
Crytash
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany251 Posts
July 23 2013 00:23 GMT
#366
On July 23 2013 09:13 Zealously wrote:
I'll react properly when I stop laughing in a few weeks


How can you laugh? I am in tears now, becouse this is so depressing. How can Blizzard do things like this?

I am filled with sadness and anger that i can not fucking sleep. This is one of the worst moments in my personal eSports/gaming life and that includes leaving WoW, stop playing Diablo 2/Wc3/Wc2 and closing the german Dota 1 wiki, where i was the head admin...

I don't even know what Blizzard is thinking...
Words are small, but game is BIG
neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
July 23 2013 00:24 GMT
#367
I guess will watch only the Korean games this time too
maru G5L pls
tribulator
Profile Joined February 2011
774 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 00:25:54
July 23 2013 00:25 GMT
#368
At least there isn't any LoL for it to go against... until the grand finals at Gamescom which will be going against the European LCS finals at Gamescom.

Hooray WCS!
dcsoda
Profile Joined June 2011
United States583 Posts
July 23 2013 00:26 GMT
#369
On July 23 2013 09:23 Crytash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 09:13 Zealously wrote:
I'll react properly when I stop laughing in a few weeks


How can you laugh? I am in tears now, becouse this is so depressing. How can Blizzard do things like this?

I am filled with sadness and anger that i can not fucking sleep. This is one of the worst moments in my personal eSports/gaming life and that includes leaving WoW, stop playing Diablo 2/Wc3/Wc2 and closing the german Dota 1 wiki, where i was the head admin...

I don't even know what Blizzard is thinking...


Well that's because you are overreacting.
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
July 23 2013 00:29 GMT
#370
On July 23 2013 09:26 dcsoda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 09:23 Crytash wrote:
On July 23 2013 09:13 Zealously wrote:
I'll react properly when I stop laughing in a few weeks


How can you laugh? I am in tears now, becouse this is so depressing. How can Blizzard do things like this?

I am filled with sadness and anger that i can not fucking sleep. This is one of the worst moments in my personal eSports/gaming life and that includes leaving WoW, stop playing Diablo 2/Wc3/Wc2 and closing the german Dota 1 wiki, where i was the head admin...

I don't even know what Blizzard is thinking...


Well that's because you are overreacting.

Stop picking on the guy that's crying his heart out.
Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
July 23 2013 00:31 GMT
#371
On July 23 2013 09:25 tribulator wrote:
At least there isn't any LoL for it to go against... until the grand finals at Gamescom which will be going against the European LCS finals at Gamescom.

Hooray WCS!


It's actually funny that people are also forgetting a few things because simply scheduling at the same time as TI3 is stupid enough.

1) They also scheduled all 3 finals at the same time making it impossible for anyone to watch all three unless they forgo sleep.
2) Riot also has an event at gamescon and it will be a complete and utter mess of an event for trying to get a hotel/tickets/room/being at an already packed venue
3) Riot even had the forsight to not schedule at the same time as TI3 despite being at gamescon

Crytash
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany251 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 00:34:11
July 23 2013 00:33 GMT
#372
On July 23 2013 09:26 dcsoda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 09:23 Crytash wrote:
On July 23 2013 09:13 Zealously wrote:
I'll react properly when I stop laughing in a few weeks


How can you laugh? I am in tears now, becouse this is so depressing. How can Blizzard do things like this?

I am filled with sadness and anger that i can not fucking sleep. This is one of the worst moments in my personal eSports/gaming life and that includes leaving WoW, stop playing Diablo 2/Wc3/Wc2 and closing the german Dota 1 wiki, where i was the head admin...

I don't even know what Blizzard is thinking...


Well that's because you are overreacting.


Maybe i am, but for me this is the nail in the coffin of Blizzard as a company i like. We all know, that WCS was not as good for the scene as we all would have liked, but i always wanted to believe, that it will get better and that both Dota 2 and Sc2 ,who share a very unique bond, won't have that many problems with each other.

For me Blizzard is/was one of the best video game developer, who just understood his customers. This might be a simplification, but they always were the good guys and i even feel childish to blieved that way, but that is how i felt deep down.
Now i just have to accept, that they not only "*uck up" theeir own games, no(!) they also seem to do that with others.
It just sadens me so much
Words are small, but game is BIG
BoZiffer
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1841 Posts
July 23 2013 00:34 GMT
#373
On July 23 2013 09:31 Esoterikk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 09:25 tribulator wrote:
At least there isn't any LoL for it to go against... until the grand finals at Gamescom which will be going against the European LCS finals at Gamescom.

Hooray WCS!


It's actually funny that people are also forgetting a few things because simply scheduling at the same time as TI3 is stupid enough.

1) They also scheduled all 3 finals at the same time making it impossible for anyone to watch all three unless they forgo sleep.
2) Riot also has an event at gamescon and it will be a complete and utter mess of an event for trying to get a hotel/tickets/room/being at an already packed venue
3) Riot even had the forsight to not schedule at the same time as TI3 despite being at gamescon



I don't care for their game at all but as a company they are extremely well organized and execute well designed plans. In short, not surprised Riot has their stuff together and also not surprised that Blizzard missteps once again. Something about the best predictor of future performance is...
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 23 2013 00:36 GMT
#374
On July 23 2013 09:23 Crytash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 09:13 Zealously wrote:
I'll react properly when I stop laughing in a few weeks


How can you laugh? I am in tears now, becouse this is so depressing. How can Blizzard do things like this?

I am filled with sadness and anger that i can not fucking sleep. This is one of the worst moments in my personal eSports/gaming life and that includes leaving WoW, stop playing Diablo 2/Wc3/Wc2 and closing the german Dota 1 wiki, where i was the head admin...

I don't even know what Blizzard is thinking...

Dramatic much? In tears?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
July 23 2013 00:37 GMT
#375
On July 23 2013 09:36 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 09:23 Crytash wrote:
On July 23 2013 09:13 Zealously wrote:
I'll react properly when I stop laughing in a few weeks


How can you laugh? I am in tears now, becouse this is so depressing. How can Blizzard do things like this?

I am filled with sadness and anger that i can not fucking sleep. This is one of the worst moments in my personal eSports/gaming life and that includes leaving WoW, stop playing Diablo 2/Wc3/Wc2 and closing the german Dota 1 wiki, where i was the head admin...

I don't even know what Blizzard is thinking...

Dramatic much? In tears?

You dont understand how important eSporTSs is to people.
scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
July 23 2013 00:39 GMT
#376
I guess I'm one of the few this doesn't change anything for :3 I'll watch OSL because it's the best, look up the results of EU and maybe watch AM if it's on.
@QxGDarkCell ._.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 00:39:45
July 23 2013 00:39 GMT
#377
On July 23 2013 09:36 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 09:23 Crytash wrote:
On July 23 2013 09:13 Zealously wrote:
I'll react properly when I stop laughing in a few weeks


How can you laugh? I am in tears now, becouse this is so depressing. How can Blizzard do things like this?

I am filled with sadness and anger that i can not fucking sleep. This is one of the worst moments in my personal eSports/gaming life and that includes leaving WoW, stop playing Diablo 2/Wc3/Wc2 and closing the german Dota 1 wiki, where i was the head admin...

I don't even know what Blizzard is thinking...

Dramatic much? In tears?


God forbid that some people might actually, get this, care a lot more than you... O_O
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
groms
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1017 Posts
July 23 2013 00:40 GMT
#378
I would be surprised but blizzard has shown they are pretty incompetent in the past.

Mostly I feel sorry for their partners whose tournament will get little to no attention.

I have a recurring dream that I'm running away from a terran player but the marauders keep slowing me down. - Artosis
dcsoda
Profile Joined June 2011
United States583 Posts
July 23 2013 00:40 GMT
#379
On July 23 2013 09:33 Crytash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 09:26 dcsoda wrote:
On July 23 2013 09:23 Crytash wrote:
On July 23 2013 09:13 Zealously wrote:
I'll react properly when I stop laughing in a few weeks


How can you laugh? I am in tears now, becouse this is so depressing. How can Blizzard do things like this?

I am filled with sadness and anger that i can not fucking sleep. This is one of the worst moments in my personal eSports/gaming life and that includes leaving WoW, stop playing Diablo 2/Wc3/Wc2 and closing the german Dota 1 wiki, where i was the head admin...

I don't even know what Blizzard is thinking...


Well that's because you are overreacting.


Maybe i am, but for me this is the nail in the coffin of Blizzard as a company i like. We all know, that WCS was not as good for the scene as we all would have liked, but i always wanted to believe, that it will get better and that both Dota 2 and Sc2 ,who share a very unique bond, won't have that many problems with each other.

For me Blizzard is/was one of the best video game developer, who just understood his customers. This might be a simplification, but they always were the good guys and i even feel childish to blieved that way, but that is how i felt deep down.
Now i just have to accept, that they not only "*uck up" theeir own games, no(!) they also seem to do that with others.
It just sadens me so much


This is a serious question but what is this bond between Dota 2 and SC2? Is it because Dota was a War3 mod? The games seem as different as you're going to get to me.

As to this being a nail in the coffin I just don't get it. This isn't the finals of S2 and the game itself seems more entertaining to watch than ever. They already put NASL in charge of WCS NA which was a great move. This part of the season wasn't ever going to come close to this Dota tournament anyway so people can check out both at once if they want to. It isn't even going to infringe on the grand finals of the Dota tournament! The level of reaction and vitriol this is causing is just baffling to me.
theking1
Profile Joined June 2013
Romania658 Posts
July 23 2013 00:41 GMT
#380
On July 23 2013 09:33 Crytash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 09:26 dcsoda wrote:
On July 23 2013 09:23 Crytash wrote:
On July 23 2013 09:13 Zealously wrote:
I'll react properly when I stop laughing in a few weeks


How can you laugh? I am in tears now, becouse this is so depressing. How can Blizzard do things like this?

I am filled with sadness and anger that i can not fucking sleep. This is one of the worst moments in my personal eSports/gaming life and that includes leaving WoW, stop playing Diablo 2/Wc3/Wc2 and closing the german Dota 1 wiki, where i was the head admin...

I don't even know what Blizzard is thinking...


Well that's because you are overreacting.


Maybe i am, but for me this is the nail in the coffin of Blizzard as a company i like. We all know, that WCS was not as good for the scene as we all would have liked, but i always wanted to believe, that it will get better and that both Dota 2 and Sc2 ,who share a very unique bond, won't have that many problems with each other.

For me Blizzard is/was one of the best video game developer, who just understood his customers. This might be a simplification, but they always were the good guys and i even feel childish to blieved that way, but that is how i felt deep down.
Now i just have to accept, that they not only "*uck up" theeir own games, no(!) they also seem to do that with others.
It just sadens me so much


dota 2 for blizzard is just like any other competitor game.The bond exists only in the mind of the fans and i am not even sure about those since the majority of dota 2 fans never heard of dota 1 and never heard of wc3/bw/sc2.Just check the dota2 reddit thingy.new fans only see dota2 as it is now.
Prev 1 17 18 19 20 21 41 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
CranKy Ducklings
00:00
TLMC #22: Map Judging #2
CranKy Ducklings43
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 95
ROOTCatZ 90
Tasteless 0
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 6283
firebathero 670
Leta 179
Pusan 120
Icarus 9
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm106
League of Legends
JimRising 728
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K618
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox241
Other Games
summit1g12408
C9.Mang0487
PiGStarcraft221
Maynarde91
Mew2King22
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV4
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH189
• practicex 26
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP5
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• TFBlade1682
• Rush1129
Other Games
• Scarra957
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Team League
6h 25m
CranKy Ducklings
1d 5h
WardiTV Team League
1d 6h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 10h
BSL
1d 14h
n0maD vs perroflaco
TerrOr vs ZZZero
MadiNho vs WolFix
DragOn vs LancerX
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
WardiTV Team League
2 days
OSC
2 days
BSL
2 days
Sterling vs Azhi_Dahaki
Napoleon vs Mazur
Jimin vs Nesh
spx vs Strudel
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
GSL
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Elite League 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W2
IPSL Spring 2026
Escore Tournament S2: W3
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
RSL Revival: Season 5
WardiTV TLMC #16
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.