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Polygamy
Profile Joined January 2010
Austria1114 Posts
July 13 2013 17:32 GMT
#101
I would hate to see it but I would also not be surprised at all to see him retire.
RiceAgainst
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1849 Posts
July 13 2013 17:33 GMT
#102
Hmm, I want him to stay in EG since he's already one of the best players other than his ZvP. Of course if he feels he can improve else where, then I'll respect his choice and still root for him.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
July 13 2013 17:33 GMT
#103
On July 14 2013 00:33 dinosrwar wrote:
JD should go back to GW and train his JvP against Jaehoon to improve and become a super Ace again. He doesn't have any good P practice partners on EG.


You cannot be serious?
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-13 18:14:07
July 13 2013 18:13 GMT
#104
On July 14 2013 02:05 iNcontroL wrote:
There is still time before we enter talks with him on these things but I can tell you we are about as happy as you can possibly be with a player. He is an absolute fucking pro to work with and it boggles my mind reading some people calling him "bad" or "mid tier" etc.. I know we are supposed to ignore those people but WOW.. lol.

Anyways, I will obviously bleed out myself for a blood ritual trying to enchant all the powers that be in trying to keep him. He is amazing. Hope we can.. we will see!


I feel you, the amount of stupidity people are by saying he's bad and mid tier blows my mind. He's not even having bad results and even though his zvp needs work his zvt and zvz are amazing. But I guess if you place semi finals, finals and ro8 in 3 major events in a row you are considered mid tier :/.
When I think of something else, something will go here
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44280 Posts
July 13 2013 18:21 GMT
#105
On July 14 2013 03:13 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 02:05 iNcontroL wrote:
There is still time before we enter talks with him on these things but I can tell you we are about as happy as you can possibly be with a player. He is an absolute fucking pro to work with and it boggles my mind reading some people calling him "bad" or "mid tier" etc.. I know we are supposed to ignore those people but WOW.. lol.

Anyways, I will obviously bleed out myself for a blood ritual trying to enchant all the powers that be in trying to keep him. He is amazing. Hope we can.. we will see!


I feel you, the amount of stupidity people are by saying he's bad and mid tier blows my mind. He's not even having bad results and even though his zvp needs work his zvt and zvz are amazing. But I guess if you place semi finals, finals and ro8 in 3 major events in a row you are considered mid tier :/.



he even beat innovation in spl recently .. and it was a one sided stomp though it wasnt a full macro game its still a win and it counts .. didnt see any of his zvz but from what i heard its more or less like what his zvz in BW was
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Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-13 18:33:05
July 13 2013 18:30 GMT
#106
On July 14 2013 03:13 blade55555 wrote:
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On July 14 2013 02:05 iNcontroL wrote:
There is still time before we enter talks with him on these things but I can tell you we are about as happy as you can possibly be with a player. He is an absolute fucking pro to work with and it boggles my mind reading some people calling him "bad" or "mid tier" etc.. I know we are supposed to ignore those people but WOW.. lol.

Anyways, I will obviously bleed out myself for a blood ritual trying to enchant all the powers that be in trying to keep him. He is amazing. Hope we can.. we will see!


I feel you, the amount of stupidity people are by saying he's bad and mid tier blows my mind. He's not even having bad results and even though his zvp needs work his zvt and zvz are amazing. But I guess if you place semi finals, finals and ro8 in 3 major events in a row you are considered mid tier :/.

Being mid tier doesn't mean he's bad. It means he's...mid tier...

When you consider that he didn't fare too well in WCS America and that there are an absolutely huge number of excellent Zergs in Korea, calling Jaedong mid tier is not an insult at all. You have to be good to be mid tier in a pack of players that includes all the KeSPA and esF Zergs.

His ZvZ is incredibly good, one of the best in the world, but his ZvP is really bad (like really, really bad). His ZvT is really good, but I wouldn't say it's as good as his ZvZ, nor would I say it's the best in the world, particularly given his overall winrates in the matchup and the quality of his opponents lately (he's got pretty weak ZvT/ZvP winrates in Proleague, although the game counts are low, but he did drop 0-2 to theognis (a good player, by all means, but certainly not a Korea Code S quality Terran) and narrowly overcame Drunkenboi in his Challenger group. To me, that doesn't scream amazing ZvT.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46206 Posts
July 13 2013 18:30 GMT
#107
I hope that Jaedong sticks with EG!

[image loading]

If he leaves, I might have to change my team icon back to SKT.

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Boxer, FBB, Parting, and Rain... as a Protoss player and old SKT fan, I love this. Possibly more than the EG foreigners + Jaedong and Oz.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33651 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-13 18:33:00
July 13 2013 18:31 GMT
#108
as with every discussion like this, all evaluations of worth are largely pointless considering we have no idea how much anyone gets paid

of course EG would love to keep jaedong

who knows if the amount they're willing to pay for him matches what a korean team is willing to pay for him
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46206 Posts
July 13 2013 18:34 GMT
#109
On July 14 2013 01:20 csikos27 wrote:
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On July 13 2013 07:28 tshi wrote:
I hope JD stays on EG! Also, I'm hoping STX disbands so EG could pick up Innovation! They need more terrans!


T.T
murica?


I hope KT disbands too so that that EG can pick up Flash as well!

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/sarcasm

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Although that would pretty much make an SKT-EG alliance unstoppable.

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One can dream...
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
July 13 2013 18:52 GMT
#110
On July 14 2013 03:13 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 02:05 iNcontroL wrote:
There is still time before we enter talks with him on these things but I can tell you we are about as happy as you can possibly be with a player. He is an absolute fucking pro to work with and it boggles my mind reading some people calling him "bad" or "mid tier" etc.. I know we are supposed to ignore those people but WOW.. lol.

Anyways, I will obviously bleed out myself for a blood ritual trying to enchant all the powers that be in trying to keep him. He is amazing. Hope we can.. we will see!


I feel you, the amount of stupidity people are by saying he's bad and mid tier blows my mind. He's not even having bad results and even though his zvp needs work his zvt and zvz are amazing. But I guess if you place semi finals, finals and ro8 in 3 major events in a row you are considered mid tier :/.


Obviously if you don't win every tournament you participate in, you're terrible... -_-
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JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
July 13 2013 20:35 GMT
#111
On July 14 2013 02:32 Polygamy wrote:
I would hate to see it but I would also not be surprised at all to see him retire.


retire? the guy turned 23 earlier this year and is doing pretty damn good + he's an established name.
"Right on" - Morrow
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
July 13 2013 20:43 GMT
#112
if it is about the money then JD will stay in EG.
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
July 13 2013 20:47 GMT
#113
On July 13 2013 09:02 NovemberstOrm wrote:
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On July 13 2013 07:47 Grettin wrote:
I don't think i ever thought i'd say this, but i hope he stays with EG.

I think he fits really well with EG and has done good for himself while he's been with them.


Definitely. Biggest reason why i want him to stay there is that he can travel to more events.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
July 13 2013 20:47 GMT
#114
This depends on how much money Jin Air has/how badly they want Jaedong. I'm sure Jaedong is happy on EG, and I'm sure he likes his teammates and the international traveling, but it'll probably come down to if Jin Air wants Jaedong as the face of their SC2 franchise. They'll probably need to open up the check book to get JD back.
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ymir233
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States8275 Posts
July 13 2013 20:48 GMT
#115
Just...please. Somewhere where he can practice in peace and has connections to good practice partners. That's all this man needs.
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kc
Profile Joined August 2006
Canada212 Posts
July 13 2013 20:49 GMT
#116
On July 13 2013 07:45 Bagi wrote:
He sure gets a lot of publicity for a mid-tier player.

User was temp banned for this post.


I lol'd
Atlasy
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Hungary229 Posts
July 13 2013 20:50 GMT
#117
On July 14 2013 02:32 Polygamy wrote:
I would hate to see it but I would also not be surprised at all to see him retire.

God :DD you have no fucking idea what you are talking about
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
July 13 2013 20:51 GMT
#118
JD over the last few months has been improving at a massive rate. Once he works out his weaknesses v Protoss he will be a top three Zerg capable of winning any tournament he enters. I think pro league could be a big factor in his future decision to stay with EG. Here's hoping EG-TL do another season.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-13 20:55:11
July 13 2013 20:54 GMT
#119
On July 14 2013 03:52 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 03:13 blade55555 wrote:
On July 14 2013 02:05 iNcontroL wrote:
There is still time before we enter talks with him on these things but I can tell you we are about as happy as you can possibly be with a player. He is an absolute fucking pro to work with and it boggles my mind reading some people calling him "bad" or "mid tier" etc.. I know we are supposed to ignore those people but WOW.. lol.

Anyways, I will obviously bleed out myself for a blood ritual trying to enchant all the powers that be in trying to keep him. He is amazing. Hope we can.. we will see!


I feel you, the amount of stupidity people are by saying he's bad and mid tier blows my mind. He's not even having bad results and even though his zvp needs work his zvt and zvz are amazing. But I guess if you place semi finals, finals and ro8 in 3 major events in a row you are considered mid tier :/.


Obviously if you don't win every tournament you participate in, you're terrible... -_-


Why are people getting pissy about the word mid-tier? Mid-tier doesn't mean your terrible lmao. What the heck you think I call HerO, Stephano and JYP? Middle of the roaders when it comes to PL and that should be a good thing. If you win fifty percent of your matches in PL it means you belong and are capable of doing work. It means your built for PL. The major beef people have with Jaedong is his ZvP and judging by his overall stats from this season's PL including all match-ups. There's a whole lot he can work on. Heck, he barely cracks the top 20 and surely he'll improve upon it. If there's anything of interest when it comes to Jaedong it's his work ethic and his brand recognition. Jaedong is still a player you can build a franchise around.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
July 13 2013 20:57 GMT
#120
On July 14 2013 05:54 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 03:52 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On July 14 2013 03:13 blade55555 wrote:
On July 14 2013 02:05 iNcontroL wrote:
There is still time before we enter talks with him on these things but I can tell you we are about as happy as you can possibly be with a player. He is an absolute fucking pro to work with and it boggles my mind reading some people calling him "bad" or "mid tier" etc.. I know we are supposed to ignore those people but WOW.. lol.

Anyways, I will obviously bleed out myself for a blood ritual trying to enchant all the powers that be in trying to keep him. He is amazing. Hope we can.. we will see!


I feel you, the amount of stupidity people are by saying he's bad and mid tier blows my mind. He's not even having bad results and even though his zvp needs work his zvt and zvz are amazing. But I guess if you place semi finals, finals and ro8 in 3 major events in a row you are considered mid tier :/.


Obviously if you don't win every tournament you participate in, you're terrible... -_-


Why are people getting pissy about the word mid-tier? Mid-tier doesn't mean your terrible lmao. What the heck you think I call HerO, Stephano and JYP? Middle of the roaders when it comes to PL and that should be a good thing. If you win fifty percent of your matches in PL it means you belong and are capable of doing work. It means your built for PL. The major beef people have with Jaedong is his ZvP and judging by his overall stats from this season's PL including all match-ups. There's a whole lot he can work on. Heck, he barely cracks the top 20 and surely he'll improve upon it. If there's anything of interest when it comes to Jaedong it's his work ethic and his brand recognition. Jaedong is still a player you can build a franchise around.


It's because jaedong isn't mid-tier. If placing semi finals, finals and top 8 in 3 major events in a row is considered mid tier then what do you consider not mid tier? I mean his proleague stats aren't good, but I would place his 3 good results in major lans over a crappy proleague season (for jaedongs standards this wasn't a good season for him).
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