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Koreans vs. Foreigners - Discussion with PiG - Page 6

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theking1
Profile Joined June 2013
Romania658 Posts
July 11 2013 22:11 GMT
#101
On July 12 2013 07:07 jinorazi wrote:
if there is a separate foreign league and korean league, and with code a (challenger), does this become like:
major league > minor league > foreigner league ?

since major is dominated by koreans, minor is koreans who cant make it and few foreigners trying to squeeze in, then all foreigners in their own special league.

thats degrading


either that or no more foreign scene aka no more foreign money and we return to a bw situation only this time with lol as the major esport
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2147 Posts
July 11 2013 22:23 GMT
#102
The more money the better. The end product is way more of eSports. This is sad but true.
Firestorm
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Canada341 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-12 02:10:01
July 12 2013 02:08 GMT
#103
I think what we really need is a top Korean's honest opinion about the foreign scene. Having interviews with foreigners is great but they are more liable to be defensive about their own scene.
"Revenge is sweet... Revenge is a dish best served cold... Revenge is... Ice Cream!"
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
July 12 2013 02:17 GMT
#104
God forbid anyone should try to help any scene besides Korea.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Penguinator
Profile Joined December 2010
United States837 Posts
July 12 2013 03:21 GMT
#105
Pig has such a god damn likeable personality! He's so well spoken and his attitude is amazing. This guy is going to do big things for e-sports, I can feel it
Towelie.635
9-BiT
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1089 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-12 05:48:18
July 12 2013 03:33 GMT
#106
On July 12 2013 07:07 jinorazi wrote:
if there is a separate foreign league and korean league, and with code a (challenger), does this become like:
major league > minor league > foreigner league ?

since major is dominated by koreans, minor is koreans who cant make it and few foreigners trying to squeeze in, then all foreigners in their own special league.

thats degrading

You know what else is degrading? Foreigners getting crushed every time they play koreans.
kwark_uk: @father_sc learn to play maybe?
IcED Bk
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada245 Posts
July 12 2013 03:37 GMT
#107
Love the videos guys, keep up the good work
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Level10Peon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States59 Posts
July 14 2013 15:41 GMT
#108
On July 12 2013 01:21 Irre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 00:19 Talin wrote:
That doesn't make sense at all.

GOM bent over time and time again to get foreigners to play in the GSL - they opened the house for them, they gave them seeds from foreign tournaments, and even went so far to give them direct Code S seeds. They were allowed in over Korean players that actually deserved it by qualifying. They wanted foreigners so hard that they tried literally everything to have them compete.



This is so true...I know they wanted to try and dispel lazy rumors and whatnot, but I don' think this video changed my mind really. Khaldor even talking about the GOM house..paid for living and they are watching movies and sitting around? Seriously?? The bottom line is most of the talented foreigners that knew what it meant to be a progamer and actually followed the korean scene are too old and unmotivated. and the ones that are working hard and doing it right are getting results so I really dont even see the problem at this point.

The biggest thing that will help is foreign teams and top players in regions working together and practicing together and motivate each other to adopt serious approaches to starcraft like TLO Mana Sase Naniwa do. And its happening, it just needs patience and not to have 1834343 discussions about how we can get foreigners to beat koreans.


I thought he was talking about koreans in a GOM house vs. koreans in a kespa house, not foreigners.
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