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[Aligulac June 26 list] A sprinkle of Stardust

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Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3813 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-26 22:56:00
June 26 2013 22:38 GMT
#1
Specific feedback and feature requests should go here: Aligulac.com changelog and feedback thread

We have a FAQ here. FAQ means Frequently Asked Questions. Odds are your Question is Frequently Asked.
Visit us aligulac.com


This week I will bring you the write-up, courtesy of TheBB being busy with that PhD of his me wanting them TL+ gifts. (Actually TheBB probably deserves them more since my first TL+ post got me banned).

The last 2 weeks have been quite busy for our team, having lots of matches, tournaments and a few tweaks that went live with last weeks list, but before I bring on the lists, I think we need to look at this:
+ Show Spoiler [A sprinkle of Stardust] +
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Pretty impressive results from the mYinsanity player and new Dreamhack champion.

There has also been a few articles/threads which use data and graphs from our site including an article on Gosugamers about INnoVation, and a reddit thread illustrating the infamous EG curse. (The last one, while funny, should have included all EG players, but then it wouldn't paint the subjective picture we all love).

Now before we get into this, remember that a difference of around 250 or less means that there is no statistically significant difference between two players, but who am I kidding, you just want to rage and yell at our stats, so here we go.

The list:
  1. kr INnoVation 1996 (-14: Proleague, WCS KR)
  2. kr Life 1939 (-16: WCS KR, Dreamhack, GSTL, RSL)
  3. kr Mvp 1929 (+1: WCS EU)
  4. kr Flash 1879 (+0: Proleague, WCS KR) (Flash earned less than a point)
  5. kr viOLet 1867 (+9: Dreamhack, HSC )
  6. kr sOs 1854 (+1: Proleague, WCS KR)
  7. kr Squirtle 1835 (+39: Dreamhack)
  8. kr Leenock 1827 (-26: GSTL, WCS KR)
  9. es LucifroN 1801 (+2: Dreamhack, go4sc2)
  10. kr ForGG 1801 (No change)

Honorable mentions: Soulkey, Rain, Yonghwa, Polt, HyuN, TaeJa.

INnoVation, "the greatest RTS player of all time", enjoys another period at 1st place, with the kid-prodigy Life being banished to 2nd place three periods in a row now. The rest of the list is a who's who of great players with solid performances in Proleague, WCS, Dreamhack, Homestory Cup and so on. Most notable absentees are Soulkey and Rain, however both being only 2 points behind LucifroN and ForGG, I think we could probably in our heads switch the 4 around and this list would be a decent representation of the best the world (Korea) has to offer right now.

The foreigner list:
  1. es LucifroN 1801 (+2: Dreamhack, go4sc2)
  2. tw Sen 1734 (-29: WCS AM)
  3. no Snute 1667 (+75: Dreamhack, HSC)
  4. ca Scarlett 1657 (+17: RSL)
  5. fr Stephano 1645 (+79: Dreamhack, HSC, WCS EU)
  6. ru Happy 1641 (-49: EMS, HSC )
  7. es VortiX 1639 (+13: go4sc2, RSL, ZOTAC )
  8. cn Jim 1633 (+20: WCS AM)
  9. de TLO 1631 (+148: Dreamhack, HSC)
  10. se NaNiwa 1598 (+34: Dreamhack, ESM)
Yay, the Russian flag works!!!!!!!!!

Honorable mentions: Bunny, Kas, Nerchio, Welmu, Mana, HasuObs

The foreigner list this period includes the cream of the crop Europe has to offer, as well as the great Taiwanese Sen, the Canadian femme fatale Scarlett and the mighty Jim from China. Sen being the biggest "outlier" playing mainly in the closed enviroment of Taiwan and losing a few points here and there in WCS America. Some great performances at Dreamhack and HSC have meant lots of points for 3 of the 4 great EU zergs Snute, Stephano and TLO. However, noone is yet close to pushing LucifroN off the throne as our highest ranked foreigner.


On June 13 2013 08:26 idkfa wrote:
As cool as Aligulac is, I feel that any thread heralding its improvements is incomplete without some reference to a cool graph, which (to my mind) is integral to the Aligulac experience.

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The graph above, and many other cool similar ones can be generated here!. Special thanks to Arzar who suggested this in this post and who has helped us develop this new feature. And before anyone points it out, no trust is not top 5 protoss of all time.

Shoutouts this week to Arzar who has joined the effort and helped us create the new history feature. Hopefully he will continue to work with us and bring our users more cool tools and graphs. Shoutout to Nydra from Gosugamers and his great piece on INnoVation. Shoutout to our trio of especially hardworking match-adders consisting of kiekaboe, MasterOfPuppets and Shellshock. (More than 2K for this period, most of them added by one of these three). Finally a shoutout to TLO for his great performance the last two weeks, pushing him higher in the ranking than ever before, and because he is such a nice guy who interacts a lot with me on Twitter :D

If you want to get in contact with us or have suggestion feel free to use:
  • This thread.
  • Twitter @Sc2Aligulac.
  • PM. Me or TheBB.
  • IRC: #aligulac on quakenet.
  • E-mail to evfonn(at)gmail(dot)com.
  • Issue list on GitHub.
  • Pilgrimage to Zürich. TheBB will find you.
Untill we talk again, may your ladderpoints be plentyful and your 6-pools succesful.

The Aligulac team:
  • The motherfucking boss: TheBB
  • Programming team: TheBB, Conti, Otolia, Netbattler, NCzempin, XavierMarchegay, Arzar.
  • Database maintainers: TheBB, Conti, kiekaboe, Inflicted, MasterOfPuppets, Grovbolle, PhoenixVoid, Shellshock, TheAmazombie, FrozENDruiD,
  • PR manager, tweeter and occasional writer of ups: Grovbolle.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 26 2013 22:40 GMT
#2
woo! TLO in the top 10 foreigners finally! StarVe is going to be ecstatic!
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monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
June 26 2013 22:41 GMT
#3
yay graphs!
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Darthsanta13
Profile Joined July 2011
United States564 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-26 23:02:41
June 26 2013 22:43 GMT
#4
That graph is really cool! Also the words are nice I guess.

EDIT: Also pretty interesting to me that Life only fell 16 points. I would say that most of us would say his perceived strength fell much more than that after falling out of Dreamhack and OSL before he should've. But I guess stats and public perception can often be unaligned with one another.
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3813 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-26 22:45:36
June 26 2013 22:45 GMT
#5
On June 27 2013 07:41 monk wrote:
yay graphs!

Yes yes, we all love graphs.

BTW monk, do you care to explain this:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-26 22:46:42
June 26 2013 22:45 GMT
#6
On June 27 2013 07:40 Shellshock1122 wrote:
woo! TLO in the top 10 foreigners finally! StarVe is going to be ecstatic!

Wake me up when he does it with Terran!

Monk also sent me this message. Former-FXOTree did it, too. I'm not fat, leave me alone in my misery.
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
June 26 2013 22:49 GMT
#7
On June 27 2013 07:38 Grovbolle wrote:
Programming team: Conti, Otolia, Netbattler, NCzempin, XavierMarchegay, Arzar.

Holy crap, since when do we have so many? I better start commenting my code. >.>

Very much looking forward to being more active again for the site once my exams are done in two weeks!
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-26 22:53:22
June 26 2013 22:53 GMT
#8
I obviously think you're all fat. On a totally unrelated note, I need to scan my computer.
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MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
June 26 2013 22:56 GMT
#9
FlaSh #1 soon I believe~~~~ *_*
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
June 26 2013 22:57 GMT
#10
Sweet update! Thanks guys! I am in the process of moving this week and next, so I have not been able to log in and do much data entry lately. I am still here though and planning on being back soon!
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3813 Posts
June 26 2013 22:59 GMT
#11
On June 27 2013 07:57 TheAmazombie wrote:
Sweet update! Thanks guys! I am in the process of moving this week and next, so I have not been able to log in and do much data entry lately. I am still here though and planning on being back soon!

You are doing the job nobody wants to do, so whatever pace you are doing it in, will be faster than what it would have been without you.
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
June 26 2013 22:59 GMT
#12
It's too bad Lucifron doesn't play for a Kespa team, he'd be the fourth best player in Proleague.

MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
June 26 2013 23:00 GMT
#13
On June 27 2013 07:59 rift wrote:
It's too bad Lucifron doesn't play for a Kespa team, he'd be the fourth best player in Proleague.



Better even, since Kespa don't have his eternal arch-nemesis, coin flips.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
June 26 2013 23:10 GMT
#14
Aligulac always delivers, congrats guys !
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
June 26 2013 23:18 GMT
#15
May I ask what is the algorithm that decides who deserves to be ranked in the top 5?

As you said, trust is obviously an outlier for the top protoss player. And, I personally feel that Nestea should be in the top 5 zerg (very long dominance, 1800 points for a full year).

But the algorithm doesn't "know" that. So, if you could share your algorithm, that would be cool =)
mechengineer123
Profile Joined March 2013
Ukraine711 Posts
June 26 2013 23:23 GMT
#16
On June 27 2013 07:45 Grovbolle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 07:41 monk wrote:
yay graphs!

Yes yes, we all love graphs.

BTW monk, do you care to explain this:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Nice last name, tehehe

Poor Flash, smashes some nerds and doesn't even get points
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 26 2013 23:24 GMT
#17
On June 27 2013 08:18 fezvez wrote:
May I ask what is the algorithm that decides who deserves to be ranked in the top 5?

As you said, trust is obviously an outlier for the top protoss player. And, I personally feel that Nestea should be in the top 5 zerg (very long dominance, 1800 points for a full year).

But the algorithm doesn't "know" that. So, if you could share your algorithm, that would be cool =)

I'm pretty sure it's just the 5 highest peaks achieved
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TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
June 27 2013 08:27 GMT
#18
On June 27 2013 07:43 Darthsanta13 wrote:
Also pretty interesting to me that Life only fell 16 points. I would say that most of us would say his perceived strength fell much more than that after falling out of Dreamhack and OSL before he should've. But I guess stats and public perception can often be unaligned with one another.

Yeah, or just another reason to prefer Bo3.

On June 27 2013 07:49 Conti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 07:38 Grovbolle wrote:
Programming team: Conti, Otolia, Netbattler, NCzempin, XavierMarchegay, Arzar.

Holy crap, since when do we have so many? I better start commenting my code. >.>

Very much looking forward to being more active again for the site once my exams are done in two weeks!

Not to worry, they don't do that much. Maybe because the code is hard to understand.

On June 27 2013 08:24 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 08:18 fezvez wrote:
May I ask what is the algorithm that decides who deserves to be ranked in the top 5?

As you said, trust is obviously an outlier for the top protoss player. And, I personally feel that Nestea should be in the top 5 zerg (very long dominance, 1800 points for a full year).

But the algorithm doesn't "know" that. So, if you could share your algorithm, that would be cool =)

I'm pretty sure it's just the 5 highest peaks achieved

Yep.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
June 27 2013 10:02 GMT
#19
On June 27 2013 17:27 TheBB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 07:49 Conti wrote:
On June 27 2013 07:38 Grovbolle wrote:
Programming team: Conti, Otolia, Netbattler, NCzempin, XavierMarchegay, Arzar.

Holy crap, since when do we have so many? I better start commenting my code. >.>

Very much looking forward to being more active again for the site once my exams are done in two weeks!

Not to worry, they don't do that much. Maybe because the code is hard to understand.

The day you'll comment your code is the day aligulac will be world famous ^^
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3813 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-27 10:09:39
June 27 2013 10:04 GMT
#20
On June 27 2013 07:43 Darthsanta13 wrote:
That graph is really cool! Also the words are nice I guess.

EDIT: Also pretty interesting to me that Life only fell 16 points. I would say that most of us would say his perceived strength fell much more than that after falling out of Dreamhack and OSL before he should've. But I guess stats and public perception can often be unaligned with one another.

He did smash the crap out of a lot of players before falling out
http://aligulac.com/players/3-Life/period/87/

On June 27 2013 08:23 mechengineer123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 07:45 Grovbolle wrote:
On June 27 2013 07:41 monk wrote:
yay graphs!

Yes yes, we all love graphs.

BTW monk, do you care to explain this:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Nice last name, tehehe

Poor Flash, smashes some nerds and doesn't even get points

Losing to Dear and Fantasy cost him some points
http://aligulac.com/players/55-Flash/period/87/
He lost some vT and vP but gained some vZ so it evens out.
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