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Team Razer to sponsor KT Rolster (?)

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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
June 22 2013 22:41 GMT
#1
Well, there has been some rampant discussion lately about Flash's big announcement on the upcoming Live on Three episode. Some people thought he might be going to a foreign team, but it seems like the mystery might be solved already.

Team Razer has changed their Twitter background with Flash on top, bringing up Flash in their tweets, and even retweeting him saying 'Soon...' on Twitter. While this usually wouldn't confirm that Razer is sponsoring KT Rolster, and that maybe even Razer was building their own team with Flash as their first acquisition, if you look at their background, you clearly see KT Rolster added to the teams that Razer sponsors.

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SiCkO_
Profile Joined September 2010
United States481 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-22 22:43:37
June 22 2013 22:42 GMT
#2
yay!

does this mean OSL/PL they will have to use Razer equipment?
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TTOMZ
Profile Joined August 2009
United Kingdom156 Posts
June 22 2013 22:42 GMT
#3
I hope Flash streams, 50k viewers baby
9 pool you say?
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
June 22 2013 22:43 GMT
#4
The razer patch has been on their jackets for quite a while now
Refer to my post.
Master of DalK
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada1797 Posts
June 22 2013 22:43 GMT
#5
And here I was thinking EG_Flash [RC] T_T
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TTOMZ
Profile Joined August 2009
United Kingdom156 Posts
June 22 2013 22:44 GMT
#6
On June 23 2013 07:43 Master of DalK wrote:
And here I was thinking EG_Flash [RC] T_T


EG are rich, but i very much doubt they can match what KT pay Flash, Flash is on like 400k + a year salary
9 pool you say?
Master of DalK
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada1797 Posts
June 22 2013 22:46 GMT
#7
On June 23 2013 07:44 TTOMZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 07:43 Master of DalK wrote:
And here I was thinking EG_Flash [RC] T_T


EG are rich, but i very much doubt they can match what KT pay Flash, Flash is on like 400k + a year salary

Stephano and IdrA leaving soon could free up a ton of money.
@MasterDalK | Maelstrom Entertainment | Streaming Every Esport Under the Sun
crbox
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1180 Posts
June 22 2013 22:46 GMT
#8
On June 23 2013 07:44 TTOMZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 07:43 Master of DalK wrote:
And here I was thinking EG_Flash [RC] T_T


EG are rich, but i very much doubt they can match what KT pay Flash, Flash is on like 400k + a year salary


no?
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
June 22 2013 22:47 GMT
#9
I doubt Flash would even want to join a foreign team
Refer to my post.
TTOMZ
Profile Joined August 2009
United Kingdom156 Posts
June 22 2013 22:47 GMT
#10
On June 23 2013 07:46 crbox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 07:44 TTOMZ wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:43 Master of DalK wrote:
And here I was thinking EG_Flash [RC] T_T


EG are rich, but i very much doubt they can match what KT pay Flash, Flash is on like 400k + a year salary


no?


No what?
9 pool you say?
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35130 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-22 22:48:52
June 22 2013 22:47 GMT
#11
I derp'd and misread something.
Abominous
Profile Joined March 2013
Croatia1625 Posts
June 22 2013 22:48 GMT
#12
On June 23 2013 07:44 TTOMZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 07:43 Master of DalK wrote:
And here I was thinking EG_Flash [RC] T_T


EG are rich, but i very much doubt they can match what KT pay Flash, Flash is on like 400k + a year salary

I love it when people make up numbers.
TTOMZ
Profile Joined August 2009
United Kingdom156 Posts
June 22 2013 22:49 GMT
#13
On June 23 2013 07:48 Abominous wrote:
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On June 23 2013 07:44 TTOMZ wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:43 Master of DalK wrote:
And here I was thinking EG_Flash [RC] T_T


EG are rich, but i very much doubt they can match what KT pay Flash, Flash is on like 400k + a year salary

I love it when people make up numbers.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=129095#1

He was on 225K in 2010

Cry more
9 pool you say?
Harajuku
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
150 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-22 22:51:45
June 22 2013 22:50 GMT
#14
nvm
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 22 2013 22:50 GMT
#15
Team Razer: Flash, Life, Soulkey, Innovation, Mvp
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
June 22 2013 22:50 GMT
#16
On June 23 2013 07:44 TTOMZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 07:43 Master of DalK wrote:
And here I was thinking EG_Flash [RC] T_T


EG are rich, but i very much doubt they can match what KT pay Flash, Flash is on like 400k + a year salary

When Flash was stomping BW he might've made 400+ a year, but I don't think his base salary is close to that
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Fuell
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands3111 Posts
June 22 2013 22:54 GMT
#17
TeamRazer.Flash
fOu/Zenith/NEX/WeRRa/SlayerS
RiceAgainst
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1849 Posts
June 22 2013 22:56 GMT
#18
So no more Zowie? Anyways, if it's true, then I guess it's good. As long as Flash likes it.
robih
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria1086 Posts
June 22 2013 22:58 GMT
#19
KT Razer
9-BiT
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1089 Posts
June 22 2013 23:04 GMT
#20
Glad to see some more money in the Kespa scene.
kwark_uk: @father_sc learn to play maybe?
bduddy
Profile Joined May 2012
United States1326 Posts
June 22 2013 23:04 GMT
#21
On June 23 2013 07:44 TTOMZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 07:43 Master of DalK wrote:
And here I was thinking EG_Flash [RC] T_T


EG are rich, but i very much doubt they can match what KT pay Flash, Flash is on like 400k + a year salary
EG could afford it (even if it was that much, which it's not), but the real question is if KT would ever let him go, and the answer is "no way".
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IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
June 22 2013 23:05 GMT
#22
Razer sponsors everyone. They are sponsoring my drunk softball team too. Thread inc.
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 22 2013 23:08 GMT
#23
http://www.razerzone.com/press/detail/e-sports/team-razer-reinforces-roster-with-rolster

KT's League of Legends teams were already sponsored by Razer early this year, adding sc2 isn't surprising at all. What is surprising is that they're hinting at Flash streaming on twitch.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
June 22 2013 23:08 GMT
#24
On June 23 2013 07:50 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 07:44 TTOMZ wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:43 Master of DalK wrote:
And here I was thinking EG_Flash [RC] T_T


EG are rich, but i very much doubt they can match what KT pay Flash, Flash is on like 400k + a year salary

When Flash was stomping BW he might've made 400+ a year, but I don't think his base salary is close to that

Yeah it's probably closer to half that.
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Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
June 22 2013 23:11 GMT
#25
On June 23 2013 07:49 TTOMZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 07:48 Abominous wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:44 TTOMZ wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:43 Master of DalK wrote:
And here I was thinking EG_Flash [RC] T_T


EG are rich, but i very much doubt they can match what KT pay Flash, Flash is on like 400k + a year salary

I love it when people make up numbers.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=129095#1

He was on 225K in 2010

Cry more

It is just so amazingly hilarious to me that you think you can throw around 400k+ and think it is okay because you read he made 225k in 2010. Does that make sense in your world?
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KirA_TheGreaT
Profile Joined April 2011
France204 Posts
June 22 2013 23:13 GMT
#26
mhhhh, i have the feeling that kt rolster is in the teamrazer page since a few months already.
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
June 22 2013 23:16 GMT
#27
On June 23 2013 08:13 KirA_TheGreaT wrote:
mhhhh, i have the feeling that kt rolster is in the teamrazer page since a few months already.

They have been, as my post early in this thread, they've had the Razer sponsor patch on their team jackets for months now. I'm not sure what this thread is for - did nobody notice they were sponsored?
Refer to my post.
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
June 22 2013 23:16 GMT
#28
If only Team 8 could get some sponsorship love, KT already has money.
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kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
June 22 2013 23:18 GMT
#29
On June 23 2013 08:11 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 07:49 TTOMZ wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:48 Abominous wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:44 TTOMZ wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:43 Master of DalK wrote:
And here I was thinking EG_Flash [RC] T_T


EG are rich, but i very much doubt they can match what KT pay Flash, Flash is on like 400k + a year salary

I love it when people make up numbers.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=129095#1

He was on 225K in 2010

Cry more

It is just so amazingly hilarious to me that you think you can throw around 400k+ and think it is okay because you read he made 225k in 2010. Does that make sense in your world?

To be fair I think it is a widespread belief that Flash's salary is 400k, though I can't remember the source (it may have been a completely unrelated interview, that said top players such as Boxer or Nada earn up to 400k or something like that).
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
June 22 2013 23:19 GMT
#30
On June 23 2013 07:44 TTOMZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 07:43 Master of DalK wrote:
And here I was thinking EG_Flash [RC] T_T


EG are rich, but i very much doubt they can match what KT pay Flash, Flash is on like 400k + a year salary


He only made $400k in a year including tournament wins. His salary wasn't that much.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
June 22 2013 23:22 GMT
#31
I heard there might be potential for a Flash Twitch stream.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
June 22 2013 23:25 GMT
#32
quick make it community headline
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
June 22 2013 23:27 GMT
#33
what happened to zowie?
can i get my estro logo back pls
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
June 22 2013 23:27 GMT
#34
On June 23 2013 07:49 TTOMZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 07:48 Abominous wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:44 TTOMZ wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:43 Master of DalK wrote:
And here I was thinking EG_Flash [RC] T_T


EG are rich, but i very much doubt they can match what KT pay Flash, Flash is on like 400k + a year salary

I love it when people make up numbers.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=129095#1

He was on 225K in 2010

Cry more

So you're admitting to making up the number, basically.
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
June 22 2013 23:30 GMT
#35
On June 23 2013 08:18 kollin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 08:11 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:49 TTOMZ wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:48 Abominous wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:44 TTOMZ wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:43 Master of DalK wrote:
And here I was thinking EG_Flash [RC] T_T


EG are rich, but i very much doubt they can match what KT pay Flash, Flash is on like 400k + a year salary

I love it when people make up numbers.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=129095#1

He was on 225K in 2010

Cry more

It is just so amazingly hilarious to me that you think you can throw around 400k+ and think it is okay because you read he made 225k in 2010. Does that make sense in your world?

To be fair I think it is a widespread belief that Flash's salary is 400k, though I can't remember the source (it may have been a completely unrelated interview, that said top players such as Boxer or Nada earn up to 400k or something like that).

I remember people saying Nada was earning 400k, and Flash had a 1mil contract over 3 years. But that could have been just as BS as the claims in this thread.
Refer to my post.
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-22 23:35:10
June 22 2013 23:34 GMT
#36
Kespa team's players' salary is negotiated on a regular basis.

And how much salary the players get depends on their performance in that period.

Flash's 225K is only during that period.

When a new salary negotiation starts, his salary will change.
ymir233
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States8275 Posts
June 22 2013 23:35 GMT
#37
I swear to god, if Flash streams and nobody fucking records the FPVODs at decent quality (b/c hell will freeze over if the stream even goes online/keeps VODs intact), I will throw my laptop out the window.
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Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7582 Posts
June 22 2013 23:38 GMT
#38
Regardless of what Flash makes, KT will outbid EG.

On the actual topic, it means less pros will use G1/DT-35 =(
Stuck.
JeowJeow
Profile Joined October 2010
United States86 Posts
June 22 2013 23:38 GMT
#39
On June 23 2013 07:49 TTOMZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 07:48 Abominous wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:44 TTOMZ wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:43 Master of DalK wrote:
And here I was thinking EG_Flash [RC] T_T


EG are rich, but i very much doubt they can match what KT pay Flash, Flash is on like 400k + a year salary

I love it when people make up numbers.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=129095#1

He was on 225K in 2010

Cry more


They include rent/food/utilities into a players announced salary to greatly increase its shock value.
derpface
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden925 Posts
June 22 2013 23:39 GMT
#40
Nice with more sponsorships! Too bad its Razer though
gg no re #_< no1 Hydra and Leta fan >_#
Noobity
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States871 Posts
June 22 2013 23:42 GMT
#41
On June 23 2013 07:42 TTOMZ wrote:
I hope Flash streams, 50k viewers baby


For 2 days and then when everyone realizes how boring a streamer he is it'll be down to 1-2k
My name is Mike, and statistically, yours is not.
Ace Frehley
Profile Joined December 2012
2030 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-22 23:43:39
June 22 2013 23:43 GMT
#42
On June 23 2013 08:38 Wala.Revolution wrote:
Regardless of what Flash makes, KT will outbid EG.

On the actual topic, it means less pros will use G1/DT-35 =(


As long as they (KT) think SC2 is worth spending so much money
...
Jackle
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada859 Posts
June 22 2013 23:43 GMT
#43
On June 23 2013 08:18 kollin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 08:11 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:49 TTOMZ wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:48 Abominous wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:44 TTOMZ wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:43 Master of DalK wrote:
And here I was thinking EG_Flash [RC] T_T


EG are rich, but i very much doubt they can match what KT pay Flash, Flash is on like 400k + a year salary

I love it when people make up numbers.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=129095#1

He was on 225K in 2010

Cry more

It is just so amazingly hilarious to me that you think you can throw around 400k+ and think it is okay because you read he made 225k in 2010. Does that make sense in your world?

To be fair I think it is a widespread belief that Flash's salary is 400k, though I can't remember the source (it may have been a completely unrelated interview, that said top players such as Boxer or Nada earn up to 400k or something like that).


Flash managed to pull off $400k during his most dominating year. This figure includes salary (est. $220k) + tournament winnings ($200k), then it became a huge misconception that he was earning $400k as salary.

Also, I highly doubt EG is that rich. They were only able to pick up Jaedong because he was probably unpaid by Team 8, or had a enormous cut in salary. I highly doubt they're paying Jaedong the six figures he used to earn with Hwaseung Oz, they knew the position Jaedong was in, and that he'd probably accept an average A team player's salary + lodging + travel (and possibly performance bonuses)

You called down the thunder, now reap the whirlwind.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-22 23:45:04
June 22 2013 23:44 GMT
#44
On June 23 2013 08:16 NotSorry wrote:
If only Team 8 could get some sponsorship love, KT already has money.

Lotte FITIN. KIA Drivers. I see so much potential in them. Wondering what that new head of KeSPA, the gov't official is doing.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland24974 Posts
June 22 2013 23:51 GMT
#45
On June 23 2013 08:42 Noobity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 07:42 TTOMZ wrote:
I hope Flash streams, 50k viewers baby


For 2 days and then when everyone realizes how boring a streamer he is it'll be down to 1-2k

I highly doubt that he'll be at 1-2k when he streams
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glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
June 22 2013 23:54 GMT
#46
On June 23 2013 08:44 PVJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 08:16 NotSorry wrote:
If only Team 8 could get some sponsorship love, KT already has money.

Lotte FITIN. KIA Drivers. I see so much potential in them. Wondering what that new head of KeSPA, the gov't official is doing.


Lotte is kind of sponsoring MVP already, so idk about that. But the automobile industry would be nice.
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felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
June 22 2013 23:56 GMT
#47
Hmm. But Team 8 still without a major sponsor.
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
June 23 2013 00:00 GMT
#48
There's no way that Flash would join EG. He's trying to become the best player in the world and has a great situation on KT to do that. Why would he join a team that requires him to stream and has a worse infrastructure for practice?
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Mackus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1681 Posts
June 23 2013 00:02 GMT
#49
Since it's yet to be mentioned but could be used as even further proof -

http://www.twitch.tv/ktrolsterflash

Account was made on 20th May 2013.
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
June 23 2013 00:08 GMT
#50
That's not the real Flash, been discussed in May.
Refer to my post.
Ace Frehley
Profile Joined December 2012
2030 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-23 00:09:37
June 23 2013 00:09 GMT
#51
On June 23 2013 09:02 Mackus wrote:
Since it's yet to be mentioned but could be used as even further proof -

http://www.twitch.tv/ktrolsterflash

Account was made on 20th May 2013.


This could very well be a promotional one-time thing, because of the sponsorship, or something. Maybe once a month

I doubt that flash is interested in being stream hero (he'd spend his time better elsewhere)


edit- oh, fake. my bad
...
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
June 23 2013 00:09 GMT
#52
On June 23 2013 08:56 felisconcolori wrote:
Hmm. But Team 8 still without a major sponsor.

And soon even without a MajOr.
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RiceAgainst
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1849 Posts
June 23 2013 00:11 GMT
#53
If he does start streaming, I honestly doubt it'll be too much. When MKP and Mvp streamed around their prime, they still barely pulled in ~10k. Yeah, Flash might get 20k when he starts. But I doubt it'll ever be higher than a consistent 10k. If it does become like that, then good for eSports.
theMagus
Profile Joined February 2013
578 Posts
June 23 2013 00:13 GMT
#54
damnit i really hope they're not gonna make him stream on twitch. i'm a flash fan and i really don't like that. i'd rather just see him play periodically in tournaments, getting surprised by stuff he does. this is just too much.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-23 00:30:20
June 23 2013 00:29 GMT
#55
On June 23 2013 08:42 Noobity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 07:42 TTOMZ wrote:
I hope Flash streams, 50k viewers baby


For 2 days and then when everyone realizes how boring a streamer he is it'll be down to 1-2k


More like people don't know how to properly stream and it's the same thing I said about with JD. It's all about the aura man. I say screw streaming.
Madder
Profile Joined February 2010
Australia427 Posts
June 23 2013 00:32 GMT
#56
On June 23 2013 08:42 Noobity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 07:42 TTOMZ wrote:
I hope Flash streams, 50k viewers baby


For 2 days and then when everyone realizes how boring a streamer he is it'll be down to 1-2k

Nope. Not everyone watches streams for entertainment value.
SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
June 23 2013 00:35 GMT
#57
I think it would be awesome to see a big Kespa player move to another team, but I just can't see KT letting him go.
Madder
Profile Joined February 2010
Australia427 Posts
June 23 2013 00:36 GMT
#58
On June 23 2013 09:00 GolemMadness wrote:
There's no way that Flash would join EG. He's trying to become the best player in the world and has a great situation on KT to do that. Why would he join a team that requires him to stream and has a worse infrastructure for practice?

This. No matter how much money EG could possibly throw at him, I hilariously and highly doubt he would leave his very foundation and life as a progamer; his home of friends and family.
A Wild Sosd
Profile Joined September 2012
Australia421 Posts
June 23 2013 00:40 GMT
#59
Dont think anyone has mentioned this, its on the background of his twitter page.
[image loading]
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intmastad
Profile Joined January 2011
Korea (South)38 Posts
June 23 2013 00:41 GMT
#60
Im korean and its imposssible that foreign team to take flash. Because his salary is 300milion a year. He is just too big...
seoul
Wafflelisk
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada1061 Posts
June 23 2013 00:44 GMT
#61
On June 23 2013 08:42 Noobity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 07:42 TTOMZ wrote:
I hope Flash streams, 50k viewers baby


For 2 days and then when everyone realizes how boring a streamer he is it'll be down to 1-2k


Huh? I think with his name and quality of Terran play, he'd be able to pull in Jaedong+ numbers
Waffles > Pancakes
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-23 00:47:21
June 23 2013 00:46 GMT
#62
On June 23 2013 09:40 A Wild Sosd wrote:
Dont think anyone has mentioned this, its on the background of his twitter page.
[image loading]


I hope to God his stream schedule isn't as stupid as JD's is. I never tune into them because this streaming fad has to die down when it comes to players of this caliber.

On June 23 2013 09:44 Wafflelisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 08:42 Noobity wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:42 TTOMZ wrote:
I hope Flash streams, 50k viewers baby


For 2 days and then when everyone realizes how boring a streamer he is it'll be down to 1-2k


Huh? I think with his name and quality of Terran play, he'd be able to pull in Jaedong+ numbers


JD numbers aren't anything to write-off from. ~_~ You put too much exposure out there for these guys and it just won't be the same thing.
A Wild Sosd
Profile Joined September 2012
Australia421 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-23 00:48:47
June 23 2013 00:47 GMT
#63
On June 23 2013 09:44 Wafflelisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 08:42 Noobity wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:42 TTOMZ wrote:
I hope Flash streams, 50k viewers baby


For 2 days and then when everyone realizes how boring a streamer he is it'll be down to 1-2k


Huh? I think with his name and quality of Terran play, he'd be able to pull in Jaedong+ numbers

Jaedong doesn't pull very good stream numbers tbh But then again flash is a far better sc2 player than JD
They should also limit his hours if they want to keep him pulling big numbers, they need to make it feel like a missed opportunity if you didnt get to watch and you will go out of your way to watch next time.
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Nyvis
Profile Joined November 2012
France284 Posts
June 23 2013 00:48 GMT
#64
On June 23 2013 08:38 JeowJeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 07:49 TTOMZ wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:48 Abominous wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:44 TTOMZ wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:43 Master of DalK wrote:
And here I was thinking EG_Flash [RC] T_T


EG are rich, but i very much doubt they can match what KT pay Flash, Flash is on like 400k + a year salary

I love it when people make up numbers.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=129095#1

He was on 225K in 2010

Cry more


They include rent/food/utilities into a players announced salary to greatly increase its shock value.


Because in other countries,you deduct rent and food from your salary before talking about it? I don't think so.
shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
June 23 2013 00:49 GMT
#65
this is nice.
AKMU / IU
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
June 23 2013 00:50 GMT
#66
On June 23 2013 09:41 intmastad wrote:
Im korean and its imposssible that foreign team to take flash. Because his salary is 300milion a year. He is just too big...

300 million won surely?
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
intmastad
Profile Joined January 2011
Korea (South)38 Posts
June 23 2013 00:53 GMT
#67
On June 23 2013 09:50 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 09:41 intmastad wrote:
Im korean and its imposssible that foreign team to take flash. Because his salary is 300milion a year. He is just too big...

300 million won surely?

Yes surely
seoul
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
June 23 2013 01:10 GMT
#68
nice find. Would be interesting to see Flash stream but I doubt that he'll maintain crazy high numbers(15k+ I mean). JD has about that when he first started and I think he's like 5k or so at best these days (an estimate). As for his salary, ya, no way Flash is making 400k salary LOL. 200k is more fair and atm, his SCII performance is good but there are better terrans out there so I don't think he'll be making what he was making in his BW days(probably a bit less).
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
oniman999
Profile Joined May 2011
United States169 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-23 01:20:42
June 23 2013 01:18 GMT
#69
I love Razer and the money and gear they put into our community. It seems weird how their marketing strategy seems to be "SPONSOR EVERYTHING" rather than sponsoring one big team, but whatever works for them works for me!

I need to email them sometime and thank them, as well as show off my deathadder/black widow combo to show my support!
intmastad
Profile Joined January 2011
Korea (South)38 Posts
June 23 2013 01:34 GMT
#70
On June 23 2013 10:10 BigFan wrote:
nice find. Would be interesting to see Flash stream but I doubt that he'll maintain crazy high numbers(15k+ I mean). JD has about that when he first started and I think he's like 5k or so at best these days (an estimate). As for his salary, ya, no way Flash is making 400k salary LOL. 200k is more fair and atm, his SCII performance is good but there are better terrans out there so I don't think he'll be making what he was making in his BW days(probably a bit less).

He deserve to receive 300million won salary because of his bw reputation and famous in korea. And even in sc2 there are no terrans better than flash exept innovation. innovation always mention flash in interview that he is really good. Flash is top tvt right now
seoul
Lynkilen
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway211 Posts
June 23 2013 01:34 GMT
#71
So i think we know the real reason twitch derped out, God tried to log in.
xuanzue
Profile Joined October 2010
Colombia1747 Posts
June 23 2013 02:37 GMT
#72
I think razer was sponsoring KT lol division.

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=410385&currentpage=114#2273
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LTY
Profile Joined November 2012
United States223 Posts
June 23 2013 02:45 GMT
#73
really hoping flash to stream !!!!
Known as Miso or LTY
synd
Profile Joined July 2011
Bulgaria586 Posts
June 23 2013 02:51 GMT
#74
People are overestimating his stream numbers. It's the same as with JD. A lot of hype, once a 10k viewers peak and now only 2k average. Blame times, blame whatever.
I expect the same for Flash - 15k at most then only 5k average.

Like it or not, foreigners have more viewers because they interact more with the viewers and there's actually something you learn while watching the player. While watching a korean stream is also a high lvl play, it doesn't answer your questions or tell you their's though process.

So tl;dr not expecting anything higher or close to Stephano's peak stream numbers of 17k.
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-23 02:56:11
June 23 2013 02:55 GMT
#75
I don't understand why people think he's going to stream, there has been no indication of that..


And I still don't understand the purpose of this thread. It's even on the main TL page with a question mark in regards to whether Razer is going to sponsor KT. THEY ALREADY DO

Like, surely I'm not the only non-blind person here, no?
Refer to my post.
DeathDyingDoomKiller
Profile Joined October 2012
Canada91 Posts
June 23 2013 03:05 GMT
#76
WJ Stars should be getting a sponsor soon, they've been performing so well.
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NguN
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1322 Posts
June 23 2013 03:06 GMT
#77
omg if Flash streams...

Dream come true....

headnut
Profile Joined August 2009
Belgium58 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-23 03:09:27
June 23 2013 03:08 GMT
#78
On June 23 2013 11:55 Zenbrez wrote:
I don't understand why people think he's going to stream, there has been no indication of that..


And I still don't understand the purpose of this thread. It's even on the main TL page with a question mark in regards to whether Razer is going to sponsor KT. THEY ALREADY DO

Like, surely I'm not the only non-blind person here, no?



its very simple
https://twitter.com/TeamRazer

check the retweet from 28. may

lee young ho @KTRolsterFlash
"soon..."

check all the other tweets about flash and this
https://si0.twimg.com/profile_background_images/344918034409087914/1bb3d50d42c1c80477190d0ea77710fa.jpeg

its the twitter background of this misterious flash
https://twitter.com/KTRolsterFlash
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
June 23 2013 03:12 GMT
#79
Ahh, okay. I never saw the twitch text at the bottom. Fair enough!
Refer to my post.
headnut
Profile Joined August 2009
Belgium58 Posts
June 23 2013 03:13 GMT
#80
i dont wanna go full retard mode but looks like razer has to reveal something on june 25.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
June 23 2013 03:14 GMT
#81
On June 23 2013 10:34 intmastad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 10:10 BigFan wrote:
nice find. Would be interesting to see Flash stream but I doubt that he'll maintain crazy high numbers(15k+ I mean). JD has about that when he first started and I think he's like 5k or so at best these days (an estimate). As for his salary, ya, no way Flash is making 400k salary LOL. 200k is more fair and atm, his SCII performance is good but there are better terrans out there so I don't think he'll be making what he was making in his BW days(probably a bit less).

He deserve to receive 300million won salary because of his bw reputation and famous in korea. And even in sc2 there are no terrans better than flash exept innovation. innovation always mention flash in interview that he is really good. Flash is top tvt right now

Aside from getting into code S, Flash hasn't won anything that can be pointed to as an achievement which is why his salary deserves to stay wherever it was prior to SCII. Once he starts winning GSL/OSL/WCS finals etc... then I can see his salary going up. Having said that, his performance in PL isn't bad so he probably got some bonus from that lol. As for innovation's comment, I think he lacks confidence regardless of what his interviews seem to indicate. He realizes that Flash is a worthy foe so he obviously respects him and his style of play
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
June 23 2013 03:16 GMT
#82
On June 23 2013 12:14 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 10:34 intmastad wrote:
On June 23 2013 10:10 BigFan wrote:
nice find. Would be interesting to see Flash stream but I doubt that he'll maintain crazy high numbers(15k+ I mean). JD has about that when he first started and I think he's like 5k or so at best these days (an estimate). As for his salary, ya, no way Flash is making 400k salary LOL. 200k is more fair and atm, his SCII performance is good but there are better terrans out there so I don't think he'll be making what he was making in his BW days(probably a bit less).

He deserve to receive 300million won salary because of his bw reputation and famous in korea. And even in sc2 there are no terrans better than flash exept innovation. innovation always mention flash in interview that he is really good. Flash is top tvt right now

Aside from getting into code S, Flash hasn't won anything that can be pointed to as an achievement which is why his salary deserves to stay wherever it was prior to SCII. Once he starts winning GSL/OSL/WCS finals etc... then I can see his salary going up. Having said that, his performance in PL isn't bad so he probably got some bonus from that lol. As for innovation's comment, I think he lacks confidence regardless of what his interviews seem to indicate. He realizes that Flash is a worthy foe so he obviously respects him and his style of play


That makes no sense. It stays the same as it was when he was winning championships in Brood War, but then goes up when he wins something in Starcraft 2?
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forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
June 23 2013 03:27 GMT
#83
On June 23 2013 12:14 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 10:34 intmastad wrote:
On June 23 2013 10:10 BigFan wrote:
nice find. Would be interesting to see Flash stream but I doubt that he'll maintain crazy high numbers(15k+ I mean). JD has about that when he first started and I think he's like 5k or so at best these days (an estimate). As for his salary, ya, no way Flash is making 400k salary LOL. 200k is more fair and atm, his SCII performance is good but there are better terrans out there so I don't think he'll be making what he was making in his BW days(probably a bit less).

He deserve to receive 300million won salary because of his bw reputation and famous in korea. And even in sc2 there are no terrans better than flash exept innovation. innovation always mention flash in interview that he is really good. Flash is top tvt right now

Aside from getting into code S, Flash hasn't won anything that can be pointed to as an achievement which is why his salary deserves to stay wherever it was prior to SCII. Once he starts winning GSL/OSL/WCS finals etc... then I can see his salary going up. Having said that, his performance in PL isn't bad so he probably got some bonus from that lol. As for innovation's comment, I think he lacks confidence regardless of what his interviews seem to indicate. He realizes that Flash is a worthy foe so he obviously respects him and his style of play

Isn't bad? He's currently the top performer in SPL.
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-23 03:52:22
June 23 2013 03:33 GMT
#84
Razer has always sponsored KT although purely on the LoL side, maybe they're expanding their partnership


EDIT:
On June 23 2013 12:14 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 10:34 intmastad wrote:
On June 23 2013 10:10 BigFan wrote:
nice find. Would be interesting to see Flash stream but I doubt that he'll maintain crazy high numbers(15k+ I mean). JD has about that when he first started and I think he's like 5k or so at best these days (an estimate). As for his salary, ya, no way Flash is making 400k salary LOL. 200k is more fair and atm, his SCII performance is good but there are better terrans out there so I don't think he'll be making what he was making in his BW days(probably a bit less).

He deserve to receive 300million won salary because of his bw reputation and famous in korea. And even in sc2 there are no terrans better than flash exept innovation. innovation always mention flash in interview that he is really good. Flash is top tvt right now

Aside from getting into code S, Flash hasn't won anything that can be pointed to as an achievement which is why his salary deserves to stay wherever it was prior to SCII. Once he starts winning GSL/OSL/WCS finals etc... then I can see his salary going up. Having said that, his performance in PL isn't bad so he probably got some bonus from that lol. As for innovation's comment, I think he lacks confidence regardless of what his interviews seem to indicate. He realizes that Flash is a worthy foe so he obviously respects him and his style of play


While I don't agree that he deserves a raise to 3million won a year.. Flash is still doing well in pro league and to KeSPA and KT performance in Pro League is the most important thing, because you're representing the brand and the team more than yourself. Individually, the individual leagues (GSL/OSL/WCS/etc) will obviously get you more fame, but KT could careless as long as you win Pro League. That's why you often see in players interviews that their teams are not giving them sufficient individual league practice because of the pro league focus.
Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1933 Posts
June 23 2013 03:44 GMT
#85
On June 23 2013 08:56 felisconcolori wrote:
Hmm. But Team 8 still without a major sponsor.


Intentional?
esports
VB_WhiplashJC
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia64 Posts
June 23 2013 03:45 GMT
#86
Razer has always sponsored KT although purely on the LoL side, maybe they're expanding their partnership


Yeah, that makes me think it's a personal sponsorship for Flash.
Gentlemen prefer higher derivatives.
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
June 23 2013 03:53 GMT
#87
On June 23 2013 08:51 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 08:42 Noobity wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:42 TTOMZ wrote:
I hope Flash streams, 50k viewers baby


For 2 days and then when everyone realizes how boring a streamer he is it'll be down to 1-2k

I highly doubt that he'll be at 1-2k when he streams


When Jaedong first streamed the internet exploded and he was at 15k for a few days but nowadays he streams all the time and really isn't interesting beyond just playing good, high apm zerg, and gets ~1k or so normally
T.O.P
Profile Joined December 2012
469 Posts
June 23 2013 04:16 GMT
#88
nooooooo!! I bought a zowie keyboard because flash was using one! Aww man hope he still use his zowie gears.
I'm not the real T.O.P just a fan!
SSeoni
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
139 Posts
June 23 2013 04:26 GMT
#89
But I thought Zowie is currently sponsoring KT as for gears?
씨니
QCD
Profile Joined September 2012
Suriname81 Posts
June 23 2013 04:45 GMT
#90
On June 23 2013 08:11 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 07:49 TTOMZ wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:48 Abominous wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:44 TTOMZ wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:43 Master of DalK wrote:
And here I was thinking EG_Flash [RC] T_T


EG are rich, but i very much doubt they can match what KT pay Flash, Flash is on like 400k + a year salary

I love it when people make up numbers.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=129095#1

He was on 225K in 2010

Cry more

It is just so amazingly hilarious to me that you think you can throw around 400k+ and think it is okay because you read he made 225k in 2010. Does that make sense in your world?


Got 'em! lmao.. I was wondering if that would happen..
quirinus
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Croatia2489 Posts
June 23 2013 04:50 GMT
#91
On June 23 2013 13:45 QCD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 08:11 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:49 TTOMZ wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:48 Abominous wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:44 TTOMZ wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:43 Master of DalK wrote:
And here I was thinking EG_Flash [RC] T_T


EG are rich, but i very much doubt they can match what KT pay Flash, Flash is on like 400k + a year salary

I love it when people make up numbers.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=129095#1

He was on 225K in 2010

Cry more

It is just so amazingly hilarious to me that you think you can throw around 400k+ and think it is okay because you read he made 225k in 2010. Does that make sense in your world?


Got 'em! lmao.. I was wondering if that would happen..


I think he had 225k, it definitely got higher towards 2012. Then they earned more from direct sponsorship and tournament wins. I'd say that brings it to at least 300k, but probably more.
All candles lit within him, and there was purity. | First auto-promoted BW LP editor.
chagoisc
Profile Joined January 2013
United States6 Posts
June 23 2013 04:51 GMT
#92
Super awesome that Razer will be supporting such a great Kespa team!
"It's time for the Grand Finale!"
rkshox
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan536 Posts
June 23 2013 04:53 GMT
#93
On June 23 2013 13:26 SSeoni wrote:
But I thought Zowie is currently sponsoring KT as for gears?


but you really can't have two peripheral sponsors can you? The only team that I can think of with this kind of sponsor is EG with razer and astro. There has to be some kind of agreement between the team and their multiple sponsors right?

Is everyone forgetting about Boxer when he streamed the few times and the internet blew up? As awesome as it was to watch him stream. Similar to JD, stream viewers started to decrease. Obviously the language barrier was a huge reason for a decrease in viewers since Boxer couldn't interact with viewers like most streamers can. Unlike many korean pros, Boxer had a mic and webcam, so there was some interaction, but not much.

With Flash' popularity I'll agree and say the internet will blow up and he'll have a shit ton of viewers, but gradually decrease over time.
@ranleee /// "first we expand, then we defense it'
poisui
Profile Joined July 2011
1088 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-23 05:04:29
June 23 2013 05:04 GMT
#94
[Wrong Thread]
1a2a3a[MB]
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States297 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-23 05:21:54
June 23 2013 05:21 GMT
#95
I like my zowie mico! But if I was offered money to give up my micro I would.
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TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
June 23 2013 05:24 GMT
#96
Damn Razer is sponsoring so many teams
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-23 06:30:30
June 23 2013 06:28 GMT
#97
Quick paint job from the KT Flash twitter background.

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[image loading]


Guessing it's a done deal.
Razer going to take over the Korean market?
The curse is real
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
June 23 2013 06:30 GMT
#98
KT getting more sponsors ^_^

Flash streaming would be amazing!!
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
June 23 2013 06:38 GMT
#99
whats the big deal with this article? Razer just loves giving everyone hardware and calls them "team razer" lol
MrMedic
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada452 Posts
June 23 2013 06:45 GMT
#100
Congrats!
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
June 23 2013 06:46 GMT
#101
How is this even news, Razer sponsors basically every pro team.
mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
June 23 2013 07:03 GMT
#102
On June 23 2013 15:46 Irave wrote:
How is this even news, Razer sponsors basically every pro team.

that NewmaN quote :p

http://www.razerzone.com/team

KT is on the list, and there are Razer logos on Flash's background on Twitter. So the Razer-KT affiliation is quite obvious.

However, the KT Rolster profile on the Razer website only mentions League of Legends, and not Starcraft 2. It could perhaps be that Flash will be receiving a personal sponsorship from Razer.
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Silencioseu
Profile Joined June 2011
Cyprus493 Posts
June 23 2013 07:34 GMT
#103
On June 23 2013 16:03 mikkmagro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 15:46 Irave wrote:
How is this even news, Razer sponsors basically every pro team.

that NewmaN quote :p

http://www.razerzone.com/team

KT is on the list, and there are Razer logos on Flash's background on Twitter. So the Razer-KT affiliation is quite obvious.

However, the KT Rolster profile on the Razer website only mentions League of Legends, and not Starcraft 2. It could perhaps be that Flash will be receiving a personal sponsorship from Razer.

Maybe they're trying to cover it up a bit until the official announcement.
i kno i r badass no need to repeat
bypLy
Profile Joined June 2013
757 Posts
June 23 2013 07:35 GMT
#104
Razer making serios business
SiguR
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada2039 Posts
June 23 2013 07:38 GMT
#105
I am certain he will be announcing he is going to MLG
headnut
Profile Joined August 2009
Belgium58 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-23 07:38:36
June 23 2013 07:38 GMT
#106
if im not mistaken, there is a razer logo on flashs kt rolster tshirt for a few weeks now.
on the left arm.
BlitchizSC2
Profile Joined August 2010
United States306 Posts
June 23 2013 07:53 GMT
#107
They already sponsor the LoL team, don't see why this is such a stretch.
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KumihO.
Profile Joined December 2012
United States55 Posts
June 23 2013 08:12 GMT
#108
Or... you can just look at there jerseys. They have Razer on there left shoulder :D
TwilightRain
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany351 Posts
June 23 2013 08:13 GMT
#109
On June 23 2013 16:38 headnut wrote:
if im not mistaken, there is a razer logo on flashs kt rolster tshirt for a few weeks now.
on the left arm.


On June 23 2013 16:53 BlitchizSC2 wrote:
They already sponsor the LoL team, don't see why this is such a stretch.


Both is true and Flash is already using a Razer keyboard and mousepad, only the mouse is still Zowie.
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
June 23 2013 08:25 GMT
#110
On June 23 2013 07:44 TTOMZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 07:43 Master of DalK wrote:
And here I was thinking EG_Flash [RC] T_T


EG are rich, but i very much doubt they can match what KT pay Flash, Flash is on like 400k + a year salary

400k is a giagantly overestamite. when bw was SUPER populair even boxer and nada only got like 350/300 during their peaks.

with the loss of populairty of sc2 i doubt it will be higher then 200k
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
June 23 2013 08:55 GMT
#111
On June 23 2013 07:43 Master of DalK wrote:
And here I was thinking EG_Flash [RC] T_T

Oh man I hope that never happens.
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TheSwamp
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1497 Posts
June 23 2013 08:57 GMT
#112
Zowie > Razer
MLG: How is your Protoss? Idra: I make Blink Stalkers, so really, really good.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
June 23 2013 09:09 GMT
#113
On June 23 2013 17:25 sabas123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 07:44 TTOMZ wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:43 Master of DalK wrote:
And here I was thinking EG_Flash [RC] T_T


EG are rich, but i very much doubt they can match what KT pay Flash, Flash is on like 400k + a year salary

400k is a giagantly overestamite. when bw was SUPER populair even boxer and nada only got like 350/300 during their peaks.

with the loss of populairty of sc2 i doubt it will be higher then 200k


Even with 200k, do you believe EG would want to pay ~17000$/month for a player? Also KT can easily outbid EG if Flash would be interested in EG (which I doubt, leaving superior training grounds).
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Lazzi
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1923 Posts
June 23 2013 09:14 GMT
#114
Flahs has recently changed his zowie celeritas for a razer keyboard and you can see the razer logo on KT's jersey
It's good to be back
suejak
Profile Joined March 2010
Japan545 Posts
June 23 2013 09:22 GMT
#115
"I'm sponsored by Razer" is not a very interesting announcement. Because he's going Lo3 to make the announcement, I'm positive it's much bigger than that.

He's probably switching to a foreign team.
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RiZu
Profile Joined February 2012
Singapore5715 Posts
June 23 2013 09:23 GMT
#116
On June 23 2013 17:25 sabas123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 07:44 TTOMZ wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:43 Master of DalK wrote:
And here I was thinking EG_Flash [RC] T_T


EG are rich, but i very much doubt they can match what KT pay Flash, Flash is on like 400k + a year salary

400k is a giagantly overestamite. when bw was SUPER populair even boxer and nada only got like 350/300 during their peaks.

with the loss of populairty of sc2 i doubt it will be higher then 200k

I think Nada at one point earned around 600k alongside with his tournament earring. I forgot where I seemed it though.
Thinasy
Profile Joined March 2011
2856 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-23 10:01:57
June 23 2013 09:59 GMT
#117
On June 23 2013 18:23 RiZu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 17:25 sabas123 wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:44 TTOMZ wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:43 Master of DalK wrote:
And here I was thinking EG_Flash [RC] T_T


EG are rich, but i very much doubt they can match what KT pay Flash, Flash is on like 400k + a year salary

400k is a giagantly overestamite. when bw was SUPER populair even boxer and nada only got like 350/300 during their peaks.

with the loss of populairty of sc2 i doubt it will be higher then 200k

I think Nada at one point earned around 600k alongside with his tournament earring. I forgot where I seemed it though.


600k sounds like way too much

Edit: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=49725 here it says he had 600k over 3 years.
Jaedong & Faker
JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2517 Posts
June 23 2013 10:04 GMT
#118
On June 23 2013 15:46 Irave wrote:
How is this even news, Razer sponsors basically every pro team.


Exactly my thoughts. And still I prefer Logitech^^
CYfiri
Profile Joined February 2013
Sweden25 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-23 10:04:38
June 23 2013 10:04 GMT
#119
Razer sponsors KT rolsters LoL team and now Flash is seen with Razer this could mean he is switching game to...
Thinasy
Profile Joined March 2011
2856 Posts
June 23 2013 10:06 GMT
#120
On June 23 2013 19:04 JoeCool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 15:46 Irave wrote:
How is this even news, Razer sponsors basically every pro team.


Exactly my thoughts. And still I prefer Logitech^^


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Jaedong & Faker
ArcadeR
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany199 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-23 10:10:20
June 23 2013 10:09 GMT
#121
Woa what a news ...Razer sponsors other KT-divisions for a while and now they have come to an agreement regarding their premium-Starcraft Team..so what.
And no, EG will not bid on Flash (what's more realistic: a simple sponsorship like razer does it for tons of teams...or some kind backround razer/(eg, even more unrealistic))-get-flash-out-of-KT-conspiracy xD?)...even if they can keep up wie KT, its not all about the money here. Flash wants to become the best again and he gets closer every day...but what kind of Training-Environment can EG give him compared to KT? It's even a joke to argue about this ....
SoniC_eu
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark1008 Posts
June 23 2013 10:21 GMT
#122
On June 23 2013 19:09 ArcadeR wrote:
Woa what a news ...Razer sponsors other KT-divisions for a while and now they have come to an agreement regarding their premium-Starcraft Team..so what.
And no, EG will not bid on Flash (what's more realistic: a simple sponsorship like razer does it for tons of teams...or some kind backround razer/(eg, even more unrealistic))-get-flash-out-of-KT-conspiracy xD?)...even if they can keep up wie KT, its not all about the money here. Flash wants to become the best again and he gets closer every day...but what kind of Training-Environment can EG give him compared to KT? It's even a joke to argue about this ....


He gets to play vs. EGMachine
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
June 23 2013 10:38 GMT
#123
On June 23 2013 17:55 KristofferAG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 07:43 Master of DalK wrote:
And here I was thinking EG_Flash [RC] T_T

Oh man I hope that never happens.


Agreed. Jaedong and Flash doesn't belong to the same team. :p
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Thinasy
Profile Joined March 2011
2856 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-23 10:39:42
June 23 2013 10:39 GMT
#124
On June 23 2013 19:38 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 17:55 KristofferAG wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:43 Master of DalK wrote:
And here I was thinking EG_Flash [RC] T_T

Oh man I hope that never happens.


Agreed. Jaedong and Flash doesn't belong to the same team. :p


Would be a disaster and I strongly believe they dont want that to happen either.

Not because they dislike each other, but it can't be good for their "rivalry"
Jaedong & Faker
Zaken_
Profile Joined March 2011
Spain35 Posts
June 23 2013 10:46 GMT
#125
On June 23 2013 19:39 Thinasy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 19:38 Grettin wrote:
On June 23 2013 17:55 KristofferAG wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:43 Master of DalK wrote:
And here I was thinking EG_Flash [RC] T_T

Oh man I hope that never happens.


Agreed. Jaedong and Flash doesn't belong to the same team. :p


Would be a disaster and I strongly believe they dont want that to happen either.

Not because they dislike each other, but it can't be good for their "rivalry"

Soooo, Flash to TL!
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
June 23 2013 10:46 GMT
#126
If this happens it is so, so good.
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sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
June 23 2013 11:04 GMT
#127
On June 23 2013 08:19 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 07:44 TTOMZ wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:43 Master of DalK wrote:
And here I was thinking EG_Flash [RC] T_T


EG are rich, but i very much doubt they can match what KT pay Flash, Flash is on like 400k + a year salary


He only made $400k in a year including tournament wins. His salary wasn't that much.


Including prize money from tournaments it still wouldn't add up to 400000000 won from 225k, OSL/MSL prize money is pretty small.

Flash most likely got big bonuses from winning tournaments, the point is can EG afford to match those bonuses over the course of a year when Flash wins everything, probably not.
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Demand2k
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Norway875 Posts
June 23 2013 11:05 GMT
#128
lol at speculations about Flash going to EG, as if all the EG players' salaries combined can match what KT pays him.
AngrySalmon
Profile Joined June 2013
United Kingdom19 Posts
June 23 2013 11:19 GMT
#129
Dammn kespa messing up all thats good and ESF
JLew
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada353 Posts
June 23 2013 11:41 GMT
#130
On June 23 2013 07:49 TTOMZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 07:48 Abominous wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:44 TTOMZ wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:43 Master of DalK wrote:
And here I was thinking EG_Flash [RC] T_T


EG are rich, but i very much doubt they can match what KT pay Flash, Flash is on like 400k + a year salary

I love it when people make up numbers.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=129095#1

He was on 225K in 2010

Cry more


That article clearly states that is including prize money from leagues...
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Aleteh
Profile Joined December 2011
Denmark166 Posts
June 23 2013 11:41 GMT
#131
On June 23 2013 20:04 sluggaslamoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 08:19 GolemMadness wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:44 TTOMZ wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:43 Master of DalK wrote:
And here I was thinking EG_Flash [RC] T_T


EG are rich, but i very much doubt they can match what KT pay Flash, Flash is on like 400k + a year salary


He only made $400k in a year including tournament wins. His salary wasn't that much.


Including prize money from tournaments it still wouldn't add up to 400000000 won from 225k, OSL/MSL prize money is pretty small.

Flash most likely got big bonuses from winning tournaments, the point is can EG afford to match those bonuses over the course of a year when Flash wins everything, probably not.


http://esportsearnings.com/players/1505/flash

OSL/MSL is on par with GSL when it comes to prize money
The Tyrant
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
June 23 2013 12:16 GMT
#132
flash streaming would depress me. the times are changing...
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Leetley
Profile Joined October 2010
1796 Posts
June 23 2013 12:26 GMT
#133
On June 23 2013 07:42 TTOMZ wrote:
I hope Flash streams, 50k viewers baby

Flash will never stream. Period.
IcookTacos
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden295 Posts
June 23 2013 13:00 GMT
#134
Wow, that would be big!
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HornyHerring
Profile Joined March 2011
Papua New Guinea1058 Posts
June 23 2013 13:00 GMT
#135
People said the exact same thing about Jaedong. "EG is rich but they cant afford players like Flash or Jaedong". Well, guess what.
oh, hai
Insomnia_a
Profile Joined March 2013
Spain14 Posts
June 23 2013 13:02 GMT
#136
Great news... gogogo BW GOD!
bypLy
Profile Joined June 2013
757 Posts
June 23 2013 13:17 GMT
#137
totally deserves
Junks.
Profile Joined April 2013
Malaysia3 Posts
June 23 2013 13:18 GMT
#138
I guess that's what the 25 June announcement thingy is going to be. Razer sponsoring KT Rolster.
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
June 23 2013 13:18 GMT
#139
On June 23 2013 20:41 Aleteh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 20:04 sluggaslamoo wrote:
On June 23 2013 08:19 GolemMadness wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:44 TTOMZ wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:43 Master of DalK wrote:
And here I was thinking EG_Flash [RC] T_T


EG are rich, but i very much doubt they can match what KT pay Flash, Flash is on like 400k + a year salary


He only made $400k in a year including tournament wins. His salary wasn't that much.


Including prize money from tournaments it still wouldn't add up to 400000000 won from 225k, OSL/MSL prize money is pretty small.

Flash most likely got big bonuses from winning tournaments, the point is can EG afford to match those bonuses over the course of a year when Flash wins everything, probably not.


http://esportsearnings.com/players/1505/flash

OSL/MSL is on par with GSL when it comes to prize money


I know what the prize money is... OSL and MSL only run twice a year.
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-23 13:19:29
June 23 2013 13:18 GMT
#140
On June 23 2013 22:00 HornyHerring wrote:
People said the exact same thing about Jaedong. "EG is rich but they cant afford players like Flash or Jaedong". Well, guess what.


Except Jaedong's salary has never been/wasn't near Flash' when EG purchased/loaned Jaedong.

Pretty sure there has been some kind of "confirmation"/discussion about that somewhere.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
June 23 2013 13:21 GMT
#141
On June 23 2013 22:00 HornyHerring wrote:
People said the exact same thing about Jaedong. "EG is rich but they cant afford players like Flash or Jaedong". Well, guess what.


Flash or Bisu, Jaedong was very underpaid and he almost switched teams during BW.
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Zariel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1285 Posts
June 23 2013 13:32 GMT
#142
There would be too much loyalty for Flash to change teams.
sup
asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
June 23 2013 14:10 GMT
#143
On June 23 2013 19:04 CYfiri wrote:
Razer sponsors KT rolsters LoL team and now Flash is seen with Razer this could mean he is switching game to...

o please. don't even try to pull this one
rip prime
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
June 23 2013 14:11 GMT
#144
On June 23 2013 22:21 sluggaslamoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 22:00 HornyHerring wrote:
People said the exact same thing about Jaedong. "EG is rich but they cant afford players like Flash or Jaedong". Well, guess what.


Flash or Bisu, Jaedong was very underpaid and he almost switched teams during BW.


Not to mention Jaedong's team was without a sponsor, and it was basically explained that he was "on loan." I think JD will stay with EG now tho with EG investing in Korea and showing him what life can be like outside of KeSPA.
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
June 23 2013 14:38 GMT
#145
On June 23 2013 23:10 asdfOu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 19:04 CYfiri wrote:
Razer sponsors KT rolsters LoL team and now Flash is seen with Razer this could mean he is switching game to...

o please. don't even try to pull this one

Well KT Rolster Arrows have been stuggling a lot lately and even failed to qualify for HOT6iX Champions Summer, that could be the boost they need!
+ Show Spoiler +
Yeah right.
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vesicular
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1310 Posts
June 23 2013 15:26 GMT
#146
On June 23 2013 18:22 suejak wrote:
"I'm sponsored by Razer" is not a very interesting announcement. Because he's going Lo3 to make the announcement, I'm positive it's much bigger than that.

He's probably switching to a foreign team.


Yes, I'm sure they went to all the trouble to set up Flash's KT Rolster accounts on Twitter and Twitch with Razor retweeting them just so he could switch to a different team a week later.
STX Fighting!
DanLee
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada316 Posts
June 23 2013 15:39 GMT
#147
On June 23 2013 11:51 synd wrote:
People are overestimating his stream numbers. It's the same as with JD. A lot of hype, once a 10k viewers peak and now only 2k average. Blame times, blame whatever.
I expect the same for Flash - 15k at most then only 5k average.

Like it or not, foreigners have more viewers because they interact more with the viewers and there's actually something you learn while watching the player. While watching a korean stream is also a high lvl play, it doesn't answer your questions or tell you their's though process.

So tl;dr not expecting anything higher or close to Stephano's peak stream numbers of 17k.

Except during Stephano's peak he didn't use mic or webcam.
nty
tyles
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom509 Posts
June 23 2013 16:05 GMT
#148
On June 24 2013 00:39 DanLee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 11:51 synd wrote:
People are overestimating his stream numbers. It's the same as with JD. A lot of hype, once a 10k viewers peak and now only 2k average. Blame times, blame whatever.
I expect the same for Flash - 15k at most then only 5k average.

Like it or not, foreigners have more viewers because they interact more with the viewers and there's actually something you learn while watching the player. While watching a korean stream is also a high lvl play, it doesn't answer your questions or tell you their's though process.

So tl;dr not expecting anything higher or close to Stephano's peak stream numbers of 17k.

Except during Stephano's peak he didn't use mic or webcam.


I honestly don't see why people care so much about a webcam.
Tyles.772 Bobstar.223 I'm just disappointed they overhyped an announcement which would obviously cause a lot of backlash in the TL community. Sure they acquired huk, but they didn't have to rub it in our faces.
emanresU
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany393 Posts
June 23 2013 16:11 GMT
#149
On June 23 2013 07:44 TTOMZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 07:43 Master of DalK wrote:
And here I was thinking EG_Flash [RC] T_T


EG are rich, but i very much doubt they can match what KT pay Flash, Flash is on like 400k + a year salary

Source?
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eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
June 23 2013 16:23 GMT
#150
On June 24 2013 00:39 DanLee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 11:51 synd wrote:
People are overestimating his stream numbers. It's the same as with JD. A lot of hype, once a 10k viewers peak and now only 2k average. Blame times, blame whatever.
I expect the same for Flash - 15k at most then only 5k average.

Like it or not, foreigners have more viewers because they interact more with the viewers and there's actually something you learn while watching the player. While watching a korean stream is also a high lvl play, it doesn't answer your questions or tell you their's though process.

So tl;dr not expecting anything higher or close to Stephano's peak stream numbers of 17k.

Except during Stephano's peak he didn't use mic or webcam.

I have to say, Stephano's musical tastes in classic rock and his mesmerizing mechanics were enough to keep me hooked. It was unique enough for the time to stand out.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
Cattlecruiser
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States340 Posts
June 23 2013 16:23 GMT
#151
So the best sc2 players make around the veteran minimum for the NFL.
Average entry level salary is $43,000 in the US with a bachelor's degree.
Just food for thought for all the aspiring "pro-gamers" out there.
nixX3n
Profile Joined June 2011
United States122 Posts
June 23 2013 16:40 GMT
#152
RazerRolsterFlash
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tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
June 23 2013 16:49 GMT
#153
I hope Korean teams get more exposure to the huge western audience that is out there. Even if they're 'mechanical robots' in every sense of the phrase, it would help IMO.
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
June 23 2013 16:59 GMT
#154
On June 24 2013 01:23 Cattlecruiser wrote:
So the best sc2 players make around the veteran minimum for the NFL.
Average entry level salary is $43,000 in the US with a bachelor's degree.
Just food for thought for all the aspiring "pro-gamers" out there.


By the way, playing in the NFL is silly when you can just become a successful author like JK Rowling and make so much more money.

+ Show Spoiler +
The salary isn't all people care about. In the case of progamers, I'm going to go out on a limb and say it's one of the things they typically care less about.
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SChlafmann
Profile Joined September 2011
France725 Posts
June 23 2013 17:29 GMT
#155
On June 24 2013 01:59 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 01:23 Cattlecruiser wrote:
So the best sc2 players make around the veteran minimum for the NFL.
Average entry level salary is $43,000 in the US with a bachelor's degree.
Just food for thought for all the aspiring "pro-gamers" out there.


By the way, playing in the NFL is silly when you can just become a successful author like JK Rowling and make so much more money.

+ Show Spoiler +
The salary isn't all people care about. In the case of progamers, I'm going to go out on a limb and say it's one of the things they typically care less about.


I fully agree. I'll be more than happy to be pgm with 1k€/month.
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Lazzi
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1923 Posts
June 23 2013 17:31 GMT
#156
On June 24 2013 01:59 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 01:23 Cattlecruiser wrote:
So the best sc2 players make around the veteran minimum for the NFL.
Average entry level salary is $43,000 in the US with a bachelor's degree.
Just food for thought for all the aspiring "pro-gamers" out there.


By the way, playing in the NFL is silly when you can just become a successful author like JK Rowling and make so much more money.

+ Show Spoiler +
The salary isn't all people care about. In the case of progamers, I'm going to go out on a limb and say it's one of the things they typically care less about.

Indeed, Naniwa said in an interview that at the time he joined Col, the most important for him wasn't the salary but to be able to keep training in Korea.
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MrMercuG
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2389 Posts
June 23 2013 17:43 GMT
#157
On June 23 2013 08:04 9-BiT wrote:
Glad to see some more money in the Kespa scene.


Lolwat. the kespa scene is by far the richest scene of all, they have enormous sponsors (Nike, SKT, Adidas, Coca Cola. etc. etc.)
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
June 23 2013 17:52 GMT
#158
On June 24 2013 02:43 MrMercuG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 08:04 9-BiT wrote:
Glad to see some more money in the Kespa scene.


Lolwat. the kespa scene is by far the richest scene of all, they have enormous sponsors (Nike, SKT, Adidas, Coca Cola. etc. etc.)

they HAD, most of them are gone now.
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
June 23 2013 17:57 GMT
#159
Isn't Razer already sponsoring them? Their LoL division has been sponsored by them forever.
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Cattlecruiser
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States340 Posts
June 23 2013 18:06 GMT
#160
On June 24 2013 01:59 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 01:23 Cattlecruiser wrote:
So the best sc2 players make around the veteran minimum for the NFL.
Average entry level salary is $43,000 in the US with a bachelor's degree.
Just food for thought for all the aspiring "pro-gamers" out there.


By the way, playing in the NFL is silly when you can just become a successful author like JK Rowling and make so much more money.

+ Show Spoiler +
The salary isn't all people care about. In the case of progamers, I'm going to go out on a limb and say it's one of the things they typically care less about.


I guess it is proven by the many Koreans that left their teams to join foreign teams that give out more salary...
Stephano is a great example of that right? so is Parting?

I'm not saying there aren't any "pros" that are only in the scene for the passion of the game. (Major is a great example)
But saying that salary is at the bottom of their priorities is very naive .
TsGBruzze
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Sweden1190 Posts
June 23 2013 18:20 GMT
#161
Happy that no eg flash happend :D
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Ureth_RA
Profile Joined July 2011
United States78 Posts
June 23 2013 18:22 GMT
#162
Liquid'Flash
Pein Is Love
BBdot
Profile Joined June 2013
United States7 Posts
June 23 2013 20:01 GMT
#163
did not know razer sponsored so many teams
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
June 23 2013 20:35 GMT
#164
On June 24 2013 01:11 emanresU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 07:44 TTOMZ wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:43 Master of DalK wrote:
And here I was thinking EG_Flash [RC] T_T


EG are rich, but i very much doubt they can match what KT pay Flash, Flash is on like 400k + a year salary

Source?

his source is nothing. i remember when that came out and i think it was mistranslated at 400k a year salary. what they really meant was he made 400k in a year with tournament winnings included.
Maruprime.
Master of DalK
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada1797 Posts
June 23 2013 20:41 GMT
#165
GUYS I HAVE A NEW IDEA ON THE RAZER ANNOUNCEMENT.

Razer Sparkyz, the newest KeSPa team and also new sponsor of Team 8. Razer with their infinite money bought Flash off KT Rolster and added him to their roster, making TY and Flash to be on the same team.

Razer Sparkyz #1 for next PL season!
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Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
June 23 2013 20:47 GMT
#166
On June 24 2013 05:41 Master of DalK wrote:
GUYS I HAVE A NEW IDEA ON THE RAZER ANNOUNCEMENT.

Razer Sparkyz, the newest KeSPa team and also new sponsor of Team 8. Razer with their infinite money bought Flash off KT Rolster and added him to their roster, making TY and Flash to be on the same team.

Razer Sparkyz #1 for next PL season!

Flash Cure and TY would be the best terran line up in SPL ._.
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ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
June 23 2013 20:50 GMT
#167
On June 24 2013 05:41 Master of DalK wrote:
GUYS I HAVE A NEW IDEA ON THE RAZER ANNOUNCEMENT.

Razer Sparkyz, the newest KeSPa team and also new sponsor of Team 8. Razer with their infinite money bought Flash off KT Rolster and added him to their roster, making TY and Flash to be on the same team.

Razer Sparkyz #1 for next PL season!


If you check the KTRolster Flash Twitter, he is wearing a KT shirt with a Razer branding on the sleeve. And the top of his head is the same as in the image next to soon on the Razer Twitter website.

Though I do wish your Idea was true
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Master of DalK
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada1797 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-23 20:52:42
June 23 2013 20:51 GMT
#168
On June 24 2013 05:47 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 05:41 Master of DalK wrote:
GUYS I HAVE A NEW IDEA ON THE RAZER ANNOUNCEMENT.

Razer Sparkyz, the newest KeSPa team and also new sponsor of Team 8. Razer with their infinite money bought Flash off KT Rolster and added him to their roster, making TY and Flash to be on the same team.

Razer Sparkyz #1 for next PL season!

Flash Cure and TY would be the best terran line up in SPL ._.

Yes, yes it would be.

Btw, other possible names are Razer Oz, Razer HERO, Razer FOX or RazerForce ACE
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rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
June 23 2013 21:19 GMT
#169
Team 8 need a sponsor more -_-
suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
June 23 2013 21:39 GMT
#170
On June 24 2013 05:51 Master of DalK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 05:47 Caihead wrote:
On June 24 2013 05:41 Master of DalK wrote:
GUYS I HAVE A NEW IDEA ON THE RAZER ANNOUNCEMENT.

Razer Sparkyz, the newest KeSPa team and also new sponsor of Team 8. Razer with their infinite money bought Flash off KT Rolster and added him to their roster, making TY and Flash to be on the same team.

Razer Sparkyz #1 for next PL season!

Flash Cure and TY would be the best terran line up in SPL ._.

Yes, yes it would be.

Btw, other possible names are Razer Oz, Razer HERO, Razer FOX or RazerForce ACE
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what, no razer hexatron/r-stro?
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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-23 22:09:41
June 23 2013 22:09 GMT
#171
On June 24 2013 05:41 Master of DalK wrote:
GUYS I HAVE A NEW IDEA ON THE RAZER ANNOUNCEMENT.

Razer Sparkyz, the newest KeSPa team and also new sponsor of Team 8. Razer with their infinite money bought Flash off KT Rolster and added him to their roster, making TY and Flash to be on the same team.

Razer Sparkyz #1 for next PL season!


will they be bringing back yarnc, go.go and type-b too?

Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 23 2013 22:57 GMT
#172
Wait, why is there a (?) in the title? I watched KT play in PL last night and all the KT players had Razer logos on their jackets.
Master of DalK
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada1797 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-23 23:23:51
June 23 2013 23:21 GMT
#173
On June 24 2013 07:09 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 05:41 Master of DalK wrote:
GUYS I HAVE A NEW IDEA ON THE RAZER ANNOUNCEMENT.

Razer Sparkyz, the newest KeSPa team and also new sponsor of Team 8. Razer with their infinite money bought Flash off KT Rolster and added him to their roster, making TY and Flash to be on the same team.

Razer Sparkyz #1 for next PL season!


will they be bringing back yarnc, go.go and type-b too?


You know it bro :D

On June 24 2013 06:39 suicideyear wrote:
what, no razer hexatron/r-stro?


rSTRO doesn't sound very cool :/
@MasterDalK | Maelstrom Entertainment | Streaming Every Esport Under the Sun
xsnac
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Barbados1365 Posts
June 24 2013 01:44 GMT
#174
On June 24 2013 07:57 Dodgin wrote:
Wait, why is there a (?) in the title? I watched KT play in PL last night and all the KT players had Razer logos on their jackets.


it wasan't announced yet . thats why i think .
1/4 \pi \epsilon_0
bosnia
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada223 Posts
June 24 2013 02:39 GMT
#175
wow good for KT gl!
TL member since 2002, Protoss ftw!!
intmastad
Profile Joined January 2011
Korea (South)38 Posts
June 24 2013 03:58 GMT
#176
http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=78833 this is korea article it said 6/27 flash will broadcast at 8:00 pm (korea time)
seoul
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
June 24 2013 04:13 GMT
#177
On June 23 2013 22:18 sluggaslamoo wrote:
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On June 23 2013 20:41 Aleteh wrote:
On June 23 2013 20:04 sluggaslamoo wrote:
On June 23 2013 08:19 GolemMadness wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:44 TTOMZ wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:43 Master of DalK wrote:
And here I was thinking EG_Flash [RC] T_T


EG are rich, but i very much doubt they can match what KT pay Flash, Flash is on like 400k + a year salary


He only made $400k in a year including tournament wins. His salary wasn't that much.


Including prize money from tournaments it still wouldn't add up to 400000000 won from 225k, OSL/MSL prize money is pretty small.

Flash most likely got big bonuses from winning tournaments, the point is can EG afford to match those bonuses over the course of a year when Flash wins everything, probably not.


http://esportsearnings.com/players/1505/flash

OSL/MSL is on par with GSL when it comes to prize money


I know what the prize money is... OSL and MSL only run twice a year.


There were 3 of each a year, and first was $35k-$40k. That link clearly shows how much Flash made from tournaments in 2010.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Hellbat
Profile Joined June 2013
223 Posts
June 24 2013 04:14 GMT
#178
Nice, always good to have more sponsors sponsoring more stuff!
LuckyMacro
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1482 Posts
June 24 2013 04:26 GMT
#179
On June 24 2013 07:09 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 05:41 Master of DalK wrote:
GUYS I HAVE A NEW IDEA ON THE RAZER ANNOUNCEMENT.

Razer Sparkyz, the newest KeSPa team and also new sponsor of Team 8. Razer with their infinite money bought Flash off KT Rolster and added him to their roster, making TY and Flash to be on the same team.

Razer Sparkyz #1 for next PL season!


will they be bringing back yarnc, go.go and type-b too?



We can go ahead and bring back he who will not be named as well right?

I actually sort of hope Flash doesn't stream regularly...if at all. If it'd affect his performance in the long run.
If he DID stream...if it was BW I'd be down to watch all day
DPK
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada487 Posts
June 24 2013 04:27 GMT
#180
I don't get this at all. Nothing new in Razer sponsoring KT, their LoL team been sponsored for a couple of months now, its only logic that they will sponsor their sc2 team too. We also saw KT players with the Razer logo on their new jackets in PL. Also, who said he's going on Lo3 for a "big announcement"? I bet he's only going to say that he will now stream on twitch (like his twitter is saying) sometimes and that is far from a "big announcement" IMO. It would be cool, but not big. Lastly, the picture of Flash on the Team Razer twitter is now gone.
Desire.Discipline.Dedication
S:klogW
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria657 Posts
June 24 2013 04:38 GMT
#181
On June 23 2013 07:47 Zenbrez wrote:
I doubt Flash would even want to join a foreign team

Money.
E = 1.89 eV = 3.03 x 10^(-19) J
havok55
Profile Joined May 2013
United States276 Posts
June 24 2013 04:54 GMT
#182
On June 24 2013 13:38 S:klogW wrote:
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On June 23 2013 07:47 Zenbrez wrote:
I doubt Flash would even want to join a foreign team

Money.


And what team could afford to pay him a significantly higher salary? He's not going to leave KT for a few extra bucks. You'd have to pay him at least 50% more.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-24 04:56:16
June 24 2013 04:55 GMT
#183
On June 24 2013 13:54 havok55 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 13:38 S:klogW wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:47 Zenbrez wrote:
I doubt Flash would even want to join a foreign team

Money.


And what team could afford to pay him a significantly higher salary? He's not going to leave KT for a few extra bucks. You'd have to pay him at least 50% more.


Damn you must read minds to know what flash wants. Any chance you can tell me some other things about anything else you can gleam from other minds?

It would be cool if flash streamed though, I would definitely tune in the first couple of times at least assuming it really does happen.
When I think of something else, something will go here
jellyjello
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)664 Posts
June 24 2013 05:23 GMT
#184
On June 24 2013 12:58 intmastad wrote:
http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=78833 this is korea article it said 6/27 flash will broadcast at 8:00 pm (korea time)


Just an online interview with fans via twitch tv - no mention of his actual game streaming. Also, it doesn't say whether this is just one time deal or a scheduled occurrence from now on, although it does seem to imply that it's just this one time per the request of razor.
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
June 24 2013 05:26 GMT
#185
LOL Flash won't join a foreign team. He wants to reach BW-Flash level God mode again and earn more money that way, and no foreign teams could possibly help him with that.
"Start yo" -FlaSh
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
June 24 2013 06:05 GMT
#186
On June 24 2013 14:23 jellyjello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 12:58 intmastad wrote:
http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=78833 this is korea article it said 6/27 flash will broadcast at 8:00 pm (korea time)


Just an online interview with fans via twitch tv - no mention of his actual game streaming. Also, it doesn't say whether this is just one time deal or a scheduled occurrence from now on, although it does seem to imply that it's just this one time per the request of razor.


Lol if this turns out to be just a one time ama on twitch, talk about a massive overkill on the hype. Though I guess from kespa's perspective, they would see this as a big deal.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
Estancia
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)335 Posts
June 24 2013 06:07 GMT
#187
On June 24 2013 14:23 jellyjello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 12:58 intmastad wrote:
http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=78833 this is korea article it said 6/27 flash will broadcast at 8:00 pm (korea time)


Just an online interview with fans via twitch tv - no mention of his actual game streaming. Also, it doesn't say whether this is just one time deal or a scheduled occurrence from now on, although it does seem to imply that it's just this one time per the request of razor.


Its 8a.m. Korean time, not p.m. 오전 = a.m.
Probably to make it easier for people in NA and Europe to view. (Ok maybe not europe)
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
June 24 2013 06:16 GMT
#188
If he does do an ama, someone needs to show him the nada's body thread and ask him if he's impressed or not?!
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
June 24 2013 06:53 GMT
#189
On June 24 2013 13:54 havok55 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 13:38 S:klogW wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:47 Zenbrez wrote:
I doubt Flash would even want to join a foreign team

Money.


And what team could afford to pay him a significantly higher salary? He's not going to leave KT for a few extra bucks. You'd have to pay him at least 50% more.

Nope, you have to pay him a little bit more or even match the salary and he is out. Why would he stay in that concentration camp called KeSPA when he can travel all around the world and actually be a star.
intmastad
Profile Joined January 2011
Korea (South)38 Posts
June 24 2013 08:25 GMT
#190
Oh in article, it said flash will broadcast only one time lol. Razer request flash to broadcast onetime
seoul
headnut
Profile Joined August 2009
Belgium58 Posts
June 24 2013 08:33 GMT
#191
On June 24 2013 17:25 intmastad wrote:
Oh in article, it said flash will broadcast only one time lol. Razer request flash to broadcast onetime



well, if he only broadcasts one single time, he doesnt need a twitter and twitchaccount.
so i hope he will stream more often
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
June 24 2013 08:50 GMT
#192
On June 24 2013 15:53 Pr0wler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 13:54 havok55 wrote:
On June 24 2013 13:38 S:klogW wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:47 Zenbrez wrote:
I doubt Flash would even want to join a foreign team

Money.


And what team could afford to pay him a significantly higher salary? He's not going to leave KT for a few extra bucks. You'd have to pay him at least 50% more.

Nope, you have to pay him a little bit more or even match the salary and he is out. Why would he stay in that concentration camp called KeSPA when he can travel all around the world and actually be a star.


1) He is a star...?
2) Because he wants to be the best player in the world. He can accomplish this on KT. Could he accomplish this on EG?
3) Stop acting like you can read his mind.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
June 24 2013 10:25 GMT
#193
Topic about Razer sponsoring KT Rolster, spirals into shitville with offshoots about Flash's salary and EG's budgets. Surprisingly normal.

Moar sponsors in esports yo! <3
If you are not supporting K-Pop you are hurting E-Sports.
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
June 24 2013 12:05 GMT
#194
On June 24 2013 17:25 intmastad wrote:
Oh in article, it said flash will broadcast only one time lol. Razer request flash to broadcast onetime


I would loooooooove to see FPVOD of Flash.

Someone please make it happen even if it is an one time deal.
forumtext
Profile Joined September 2011
575 Posts
June 24 2013 12:15 GMT
#195
KT is valued at $16.4B at the moment. I doubt they have the need to sell Flash, I think this is just an equipment sponsorship deal.
Cattlecruiser
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States340 Posts
June 24 2013 13:42 GMT
#196
On June 24 2013 15:53 Pr0wler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 13:54 havok55 wrote:
On June 24 2013 13:38 S:klogW wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:47 Zenbrez wrote:
I doubt Flash would even want to join a foreign team

Money.


And what team could afford to pay him a significantly higher salary? He's not going to leave KT for a few extra bucks. You'd have to pay him at least 50% more.

Nope, you have to pay him a little bit more or even match the salary and he is out. Why would he stay in that concentration camp called KeSPA when he can travel all around the world and actually be a star.

Koreans want to stay in Korea? shocking I know...
Why wouldn't they want to leave all their family, friends, and country to be forced into a strange land, with strange faces, and a language barrier?
SMH
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 24 2013 13:43 GMT
#197
On June 24 2013 13:55 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 13:54 havok55 wrote:
On June 24 2013 13:38 S:klogW wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:47 Zenbrez wrote:
I doubt Flash would even want to join a foreign team

Money.


And what team could afford to pay him a significantly higher salary? He's not going to leave KT for a few extra bucks. You'd have to pay him at least 50% more.


Damn you must read minds to know what flash wants. Any chance you can tell me some other things about anything else you can gleam from other minds?

It would be cool if flash streamed though, I would definitely tune in the first couple of times at least assuming it really does happen.


That's part of the problem right there. ~_~
Requiem-
Profile Joined October 2011
Uruguay162 Posts
June 24 2013 16:11 GMT
#198
I hope he streams =)
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Sup Son
Elucidate
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
205 Posts
June 24 2013 16:41 GMT
#199
Razer Razer everywhere, and making major bank!
Welcome to Aslan's Country. Sanctuary Cat on DotA 2.
brieN
Profile Joined November 2011
United States158 Posts
June 24 2013 18:17 GMT
#200
On June 23 2013 07:44 TTOMZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 07:43 Master of DalK wrote:
And here I was thinking EG_Flash [RC] T_T


EG are rich, but i very much doubt they can match what KT pay Flash, Flash is on like 400k + a year salary

im sorry but no korean team would ever pay that much for a player. Only at his height in brood war did he probably near what the top foreigners make salary wise. not to mention you dont sound very certain "HE IS ON LIKE 1 BILLION A DAY"
check yo self befo yo wreck yo self
revy
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1524 Posts
June 24 2013 19:27 GMT
#201
On June 25 2013 03:17 brieN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 07:44 TTOMZ wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:43 Master of DalK wrote:
And here I was thinking EG_Flash [RC] T_T


EG are rich, but i very much doubt they can match what KT pay Flash, Flash is on like 400k + a year salary

im sorry but no korean team would ever pay that much for a player. Only at his height in brood war did he probably near what the top foreigners make salary wise. not to mention you dont sound very certain "HE IS ON LIKE 1 BILLION A DAY"


There was a translated article that stated he made over $400k in 2010. In 2010 he made 6 OSL/MSL finals if you average $30k per appearance (this is roughly what they were paid, but my recollection is a bit shaky at this point) that gives at least a $220k salary from KT in 2010. Some of that definitely included bonus because of winning 2009-2010 PL finals (KT is best KT!).
Magotto
Profile Joined June 2013
Hungary33 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-24 19:41:49
June 24 2013 19:41 GMT
#202
Flash will never leave KT. He made a true name for KT, and himself
KT best
<3 my shirt <3
Flash 4 President!!
fireforce7
Profile Joined June 2010
United States334 Posts
June 24 2013 20:59 GMT
#203
though I dont use much of their products, I must admit razer is awesome for sponsoring so many esports teams. It'd be awesome for KT if they got the sponsorship!
I'm terranfying
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
June 24 2013 21:19 GMT
#204
On June 25 2013 04:41 Magotto wrote:
Flash will never leave KT. He made a true name for KT, and himself
KT best
<3 my shirt <3

Yo sup
"Start yo" -FlaSh
DPK
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada487 Posts
June 24 2013 21:20 GMT
#205
On June 25 2013 05:59 fireforce7 wrote:
though I dont use much of their products, I must admit razer is awesome for sponsoring so many esports teams. It'd be awesome for KT if they got the sponsorship!


They already have it...
Desire.Discipline.Dedication
1Dhalism
Profile Joined June 2012
862 Posts
June 24 2013 21:45 GMT
#206
On June 25 2013 04:27 revy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 03:17 brieN wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:44 TTOMZ wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:43 Master of DalK wrote:
And here I was thinking EG_Flash [RC] T_T


EG are rich, but i very much doubt they can match what KT pay Flash, Flash is on like 400k + a year salary

im sorry but no korean team would ever pay that much for a player. Only at his height in brood war did he probably near what the top foreigners make salary wise. not to mention you dont sound very certain "HE IS ON LIKE 1 BILLION A DAY"


There was a translated article that stated he made over $400k in 2010. In 2010 he made 6 OSL/MSL finals if you average $30k per appearance (this is roughly what they were paid, but my recollection is a bit shaky at this point) that gives at least a $220k salary from KT in 2010. Some of that definitely included bonus because of winning 2009-2010 PL finals (KT is best KT!).

that's hardly a secret that top broodwarers made that much in the heyday but times are tougher now in korea, sc2 less popular, and the teams are tightening their belts.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
June 25 2013 05:19 GMT
#207
Is there actually going to be an announcement about this or is this just some overhyped crap? Its been going on for a while now.
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tredogz
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada170 Posts
June 25 2013 05:41 GMT
#208
Abyssus!!!! gg
t to the redogz, tredogz
DashedHopes
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada414 Posts
June 25 2013 06:21 GMT
#209
This would be really cool !
j1nzo
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany367 Posts
June 25 2013 08:25 GMT
#210
cool thing
♞ rest in peace Madiba ♞
Dagobert
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Netherlands1858 Posts
June 25 2013 08:37 GMT
#211
So Razer basically sponsors every other team out there by now.
rshawer
Profile Joined December 2012
178 Posts
June 25 2013 13:15 GMT
#212
So, does anyone know when the actual announcement will take place?
aVix
Profile Joined May 2013
United States17 Posts
June 25 2013 13:16 GMT
#213
On June 25 2013 22:15 rshawer wrote:
So, does anyone know when the actual announcement will take place?

As far as I know it will be on Live on Three tomorrow night.
:o
NoobSkills
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1597 Posts
June 25 2013 13:25 GMT
#214
Razer sponsoring Flash not KT.
Also you would think this would be some sort of conflict for most companies sponsoring your own competition, but at least every win can be attributed to your keyboard and mouse combo.
AngrySalmon
Profile Joined June 2013
United Kingdom19 Posts
June 25 2013 13:38 GMT
#215
i like razer products, im saving to buy the new razer blade soon..
Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
June 25 2013 14:20 GMT
#216
Watch it be Flash sponsoring Razer instead.

Everyone is going to look so silly.
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bypLy
Profile Joined June 2013
757 Posts
June 25 2013 16:05 GMT
#217
this is great
kc2siq
Profile Joined April 2012
United States319 Posts
June 25 2013 16:31 GMT
#218
On June 25 2013 06:45 1Dhalism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 04:27 revy wrote:
On June 25 2013 03:17 brieN wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:44 TTOMZ wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:43 Master of DalK wrote:
And here I was thinking EG_Flash [RC] T_T


EG are rich, but i very much doubt they can match what KT pay Flash, Flash is on like 400k + a year salary

im sorry but no korean team would ever pay that much for a player. Only at his height in brood war did he probably near what the top foreigners make salary wise. not to mention you dont sound very certain "HE IS ON LIKE 1 BILLION A DAY"


There was a translated article that stated he made over $400k in 2010. In 2010 he made 6 OSL/MSL finals if you average $30k per appearance (this is roughly what they were paid, but my recollection is a bit shaky at this point) that gives at least a $220k salary from KT in 2010. Some of that definitely included bonus because of winning 2009-2010 PL finals (KT is best KT!).

that's hardly a secret that top broodwarers made that much in the heyday but times are tougher now in korea, sc2 less popular, and the teams are tightening their belts.


First off, regarding brieN's original comment about them not making anywhere near the top foreigners salary wise. That's just false.

I remember ESFI reporting Stephano making $8k a month in salary and Parting got something like $70 k for 8 months IIRC for SKT. (feel free to correct me since I'm too lazy to dig up original sources).

While it isn't going to be 200k/year salary for TBLS. I'd say the top few Korean pros are still doing quite well comparatively (not as well obviously). It still sucks bad for the lower end players of course, but it has always sucked for them.
Byun, best player in the world!
Elucidate
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
205 Posts
June 26 2013 00:11 GMT
#219
There should be a KTFlash, Flash, or KT Rolster flavored Mouse/Mousepad, that would be sweeeet. Especially a mouse, wield the power of Flash!
Welcome to Aslan's Country. Sanctuary Cat on DotA 2.
WeRRa
Profile Joined December 2010
378 Posts
June 26 2013 00:18 GMT
#220
On June 25 2013 22:25 NoobSkills wrote:
Razer sponsoring Flash not KT.

What?
InnoVation Fighting!!!
Thratur
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada917 Posts
June 26 2013 00:21 GMT
#221
On June 26 2013 09:11 Elucidate wrote:
There should be a KTFlash, Flash, or KT Rolster flavored Mouse/Mousepad, that would be sweeeet. Especially a mouse, wield the power of Flash!

Not exactly KTFlash, but...

http://esportstore.com/products/zowie-mico-kt-rolster-rts-mouse
RyLai
Profile Joined May 2011
United States477 Posts
June 26 2013 00:43 GMT
#222
Does this mean Razer will actually make a mechanical keyboard other than the Blackwidow and it will come with brown switches? Or will he just use the Blackwidow Stealth? :/ I just don't like the Blackwidow. Actually, he might just get a Blackwidow Tournament Edition and go with the blue switches unless Razer makes a custom one for him... >< Hope Razer makes more switch options for their mechanical keyboard (having more options for mechanical keyboards from them would be nice too).
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11047 Posts
June 26 2013 00:49 GMT
#223
Depending on the size of the sponsorship potentially a bad thing. The big thing KESPA Brought to the table was significant support by the major brands in Korea. Without that... eh they're less appetizing and put the foreign viewer in a worse spot.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
GnoM
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway145 Posts
June 26 2013 13:19 GMT
#224
Flash, such a boss!
SBCfarming
Profile Joined April 2013
Australia34 Posts
June 26 2013 20:44 GMT
#225
As much as I'd love it, I have to go with the guy a few pages back who said "Flash will never stream. Period."

As to the razer or zowie debate : Imho I don't really care as long as they put in halfway decent CherryMX switches and don't fuck up the wiring completely which neither one company did.
...I liked the old black KT jersey better btw. They can switch back now with the green Razer logo.
You casuals are slowing me down on my path to glory.
headnut
Profile Joined August 2009
Belgium58 Posts
June 26 2013 21:34 GMT
#226
On June 27 2013 05:44 SBCfarming wrote:
As much as I'd love it, I have to go with the guy a few pages back who said "Flash will never stream. Period."

As to the razer or zowie debate : Imho I don't really care as long as they put in halfway decent CherryMX switches and don't fuck up the wiring completely which neither one company did.
...I liked the old black KT jersey better btw. They can switch back now with the green Razer logo.


there is a reason why flash will be making a special announcement in 1,5 hours.

there is a reason why his twitchchannel is written on his twitter background.

he will stream!
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6644 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-26 23:16:19
June 26 2013 23:13 GMT
#227
On June 27 2013 06:34 headnut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 05:44 SBCfarming wrote:
As much as I'd love it, I have to go with the guy a few pages back who said "Flash will never stream. Period."

As to the razer or zowie debate : Imho I don't really care as long as they put in halfway decent CherryMX switches and don't fuck up the wiring completely which neither one company did.
...I liked the old black KT jersey better btw. They can switch back now with the green Razer logo.


there is a reason why flash will be making a special announcement in 1,5 hours.

there is a reason why his twitchchannel is written on his twitter background.

he will stream!

I think you may be following a fake twitter afaik he doesn't have a twitter... notice how all the tweets abouthim going on LO3 don't link to his twitter page? Because I'm like 95% he doesn't have one.. Probably a bunch of fake/fan made ones though...

Edit: Also lol at the razer tweets

Razer ‏@TeamRazer 2m
Hype.

Razer ‏@TeamRazer 39s
Oh, hey there God.
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-26 23:16:20
June 26 2013 23:15 GMT
#228
On June 27 2013 08:13 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 06:34 headnut wrote:
On June 27 2013 05:44 SBCfarming wrote:
As much as I'd love it, I have to go with the guy a few pages back who said "Flash will never stream. Period."

As to the razer or zowie debate : Imho I don't really care as long as they put in halfway decent CherryMX switches and don't fuck up the wiring completely which neither one company did.
...I liked the old black KT jersey better btw. They can switch back now with the green Razer logo.


there is a reason why flash will be making a special announcement in 1,5 hours.

there is a reason why his twitchchannel is written on his twitter background.

he will stream!

I think you may be following a fake twitter afaik he doesn't have a twitter... notice how all the tweets abouthim going on LO3 don't link to his twitter page? Because I'm like 95% he doesn't have one.. Probably a bunch of fake/fan made ones though...


Nope his twitter is real because razer's twitter account retweeted one of flash's tweet.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6644 Posts
June 26 2013 23:17 GMT
#229
On June 27 2013 08:15 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 08:13 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On June 27 2013 06:34 headnut wrote:
On June 27 2013 05:44 SBCfarming wrote:
As much as I'd love it, I have to go with the guy a few pages back who said "Flash will never stream. Period."

As to the razer or zowie debate : Imho I don't really care as long as they put in halfway decent CherryMX switches and don't fuck up the wiring completely which neither one company did.
...I liked the old black KT jersey better btw. They can switch back now with the green Razer logo.


there is a reason why flash will be making a special announcement in 1,5 hours.

there is a reason why his twitchchannel is written on his twitter background.

he will stream!

I think you may be following a fake twitter afaik he doesn't have a twitter... notice how all the tweets abouthim going on LO3 don't link to his twitter page? Because I'm like 95% he doesn't have one.. Probably a bunch of fake/fan made ones though...


Nope his twitter is real because razer's twitter account retweeted one of flash's tweet.

Then why does no one else link it and why hasn't it been added to his fan club page? I mean I believe you it's just weird that besides you saying that I've found no mention of his official twitter anywhere?!?
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
June 26 2013 23:18 GMT
#230
On June 27 2013 08:17 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 08:15 Canucklehead wrote:
On June 27 2013 08:13 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On June 27 2013 06:34 headnut wrote:
On June 27 2013 05:44 SBCfarming wrote:
As much as I'd love it, I have to go with the guy a few pages back who said "Flash will never stream. Period."

As to the razer or zowie debate : Imho I don't really care as long as they put in halfway decent CherryMX switches and don't fuck up the wiring completely which neither one company did.
...I liked the old black KT jersey better btw. They can switch back now with the green Razer logo.


there is a reason why flash will be making a special announcement in 1,5 hours.

there is a reason why his twitchchannel is written on his twitter background.

he will stream!

I think you may be following a fake twitter afaik he doesn't have a twitter... notice how all the tweets abouthim going on LO3 don't link to his twitter page? Because I'm like 95% he doesn't have one.. Probably a bunch of fake/fan made ones though...


Nope his twitter is real because razer's twitter account retweeted one of flash's tweet.

Then why does no one else link it and why hasn't it been added to his fan club page? I mean I believe you it's just weird that besides you saying that I've found no mention of his official twitter anywhere?!?


Cause most probably don't know about it. Flash doesn't tweet. He only made one tweet that said "soon" and razer retweeted it.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
June 26 2013 23:21 GMT
#231
OH MY GOD ITS FLASH IM GETTING WET
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
June 26 2013 23:22 GMT
#232
Wasn't hard to guess.

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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
June 26 2013 23:24 GMT
#233
That's like the worst kept secret since Jaedong to EG.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
headnut
Profile Joined August 2009
Belgium58 Posts
June 26 2013 23:27 GMT
#234
I KNEW HE WILL BE STREAMING, I KNEW IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
June 26 2013 23:27 GMT
#235
So those who didn't catch it. Yes, it's Razer. Flash and KTRolster will be having Twitter(s), twitch streams and such in the future as well as getting to participate in international tournaments.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Shikada
Profile Joined May 2012
Serbia976 Posts
June 26 2013 23:27 GMT
#236
On June 27 2013 08:24 Noocta wrote:
That's like the worst kept secret since Jaedong to EG.


Yes illuminati, you know all the secrets. For the rest of us...

FLASH STREAMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING!!!!
headnut
Profile Joined August 2009
Belgium58 Posts
June 26 2013 23:27 GMT
#237
On June 27 2013 08:13 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 06:34 headnut wrote:
On June 27 2013 05:44 SBCfarming wrote:
As much as I'd love it, I have to go with the guy a few pages back who said "Flash will never stream. Period."

As to the razer or zowie debate : Imho I don't really care as long as they put in halfway decent CherryMX switches and don't fuck up the wiring completely which neither one company did.
...I liked the old black KT jersey better btw. They can switch back now with the green Razer logo.


there is a reason why flash will be making a special announcement in 1,5 hours.

there is a reason why his twitchchannel is written on his twitter background.

he will stream!

I think you may be following a fake twitter afaik he doesn't have a twitter... notice how all the tweets abouthim going on LO3 don't link to his twitter page? Because I'm like 95% he doesn't have one.. Probably a bunch of fake/fan made ones though...

Edit: Also lol at the razer tweets

Razer ‏@TeamRazer 2m
Hype.

Razer ‏@TeamRazer 39s
Oh, hey there God.



i won, he will stream! gg
askmc70
Profile Joined March 2012
United States722 Posts
June 26 2013 23:31 GMT
#238
what keyboard does flash use anyways, i know he uses the zowie mouse
Snowbear
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1925 Posts
June 26 2013 23:33 GMT
#239
Which zowie mouse does he use?
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
June 26 2013 23:58 GMT
#240
God is so bad ass, he uses a Kraken wrapped around his head to listen to the sounds of the world.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
June 27 2013 00:03 GMT
#241
On June 27 2013 08:27 Shikada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 08:24 Noocta wrote:
That's like the worst kept secret since Jaedong to EG.


Yes illuminati, you know all the secrets. For the rest of us...

FLASH STREAMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING!!!!



Remember when Jaedong said he'd stream and he did and now people don't care anymore because they're used to it? Same with Flash, unless he streams twice a month and no more.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
T.O.P
Profile Joined December 2012
469 Posts
June 27 2013 00:16 GMT
#242
so does this mean he not using zowie gear no more?
I'm not the real T.O.P just a fan!
Shikada
Profile Joined May 2012
Serbia976 Posts
June 27 2013 00:18 GMT
#243
On June 27 2013 09:03 Havik_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 08:27 Shikada wrote:
On June 27 2013 08:24 Noocta wrote:
That's like the worst kept secret since Jaedong to EG.


Yes illuminati, you know all the secrets. For the rest of us...

FLASH STREAMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING!!!!



Remember when Jaedong said he'd stream and he did and now people don't care anymore because they're used to it? Same with Flash, unless he streams twice a month and no more.


Well yes, that is true, but JD doesn't stream that often, just enough to remind everyone how sick mechanics he has. Seeing how Flash compares and also his decision making will be very exciting.
dragoon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States695 Posts
June 27 2013 00:59 GMT
#244
i didn't see lo3, was this news correct?
i love you
aVix
Profile Joined May 2013
United States17 Posts
June 27 2013 01:02 GMT
#245
On June 27 2013 09:59 joon wrote:
i didn't see lo3, was this news correct?

Yes, KT is now sponsored by Razer; also Flash is going to start streaming.
:o
MikeG
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada128 Posts
June 27 2013 01:02 GMT
#246
On June 27 2013 09:59 joon wrote:
i didn't see lo3, was this news correct?

Yup Streaming soon I think. The schedule isnt done yet though
I believe you have my stapler.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland24974 Posts
June 27 2013 01:11 GMT
#247
On June 27 2013 09:03 Havik_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 08:27 Shikada wrote:
On June 27 2013 08:24 Noocta wrote:
That's like the worst kept secret since Jaedong to EG.


Yes illuminati, you know all the secrets. For the rest of us...

FLASH STREAMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING!!!!



Remember when Jaedong said he'd stream and he did and now people don't care anymore because they're used to it? Same with Flash, unless he streams twice a month and no more.

I wish you wouldn't speak for everyone. Yeah his numbers have dropped but watching Jaedong is a pleasure, I don't even particularly like Zerg but it's nice seeing those mechanics from his perspective
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
sva
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States747 Posts
June 27 2013 06:43 GMT
#248
I love what razor does for the community, but I've never been a fan of their gear. I like steel series stuff more, but both are great to the community!!
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