• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:17
CEST 13:17
KST 20:17
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers17Maestros of the Game 2 announced92026 GSL Tour plans announced15Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid24
StarCraft 2
General
Maestros of the Game 2 announced 2026 GSL Tour plans announced Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists MaNa leaves Team Liquid Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool
Tourneys
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers INu's Battles#14 <BO.9 2Matches> Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 522 Flip My Base The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss Mutation # 520 Moving Fees
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion Data needed ASL21 Strategy, Pimpest Plays Discussions Pros React To: ASL S21, Ro.16 Group C BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [ASL21] Ro16 Group D [ASL21] Ro16 Group C Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Dawn of War IV Diablo IV Nintendo Switch Thread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Sexual Health Of Gamers
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1471 users

[Interview] 2013 WCS KR S2 PL Ro32 Groups A and B - Page 2

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 Next All
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
June 18 2013 23:06 GMT
#21
I don't think Flash is anywhere near Bonjwa level in SCII and its quite debatable if such a term can even be used considering the amount of tournaments there are so no one player can win them all due to the amount of time they'll have to put in just to fly around etc... It's definitely surprising that Innovation said that he should be called Bonjwa for SCII since he hasn't accomplished much since he switched over. Is Innovation's interview coming? Thanks Seeker!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
ThePrince
Profile Joined October 2010
Peru331 Posts
June 18 2013 23:18 GMT
#22
Sweet stuff. I love the Flash attitude. Innovation attitude so humble.
SK_MC, ST_Parting, STX_Bogus fighting!!! Colossi should shoot nukes and blink.
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
June 18 2013 23:35 GMT
#23
Why no group selection T.T
Steins;Gate
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1422 Posts
June 18 2013 23:47 GMT
#24
scumbag bunny LOL
Ty for the interviews ^^
" Perhaps it's impossible to wear an identity without becoming what you pretend to be. "
Fran_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1024 Posts
June 18 2013 23:48 GMT
#25
Innovation and Flash are two freaking monsters. Their resolve is outstanding.
Ensue
Profile Joined March 2013
United States144 Posts
June 19 2013 01:49 GMT
#26
I thought it said that Innovation said that he has selected Flash as a worthy role model?

Also, dammit Bunny and congrats to Bbyong.
“Toast cannot be explained by any rational means. Toast is me. I am toast.” —Margaret Atwood, Oryx and Crake
crashonly
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland418 Posts
June 19 2013 09:21 GMT
#27
Flash has "no idea" why they're nerfing hellbats, lol. Sure hope he isn't relying on them too, too much, and can still win games without them.

Wonder why is Bbyong dissing Bunny so much :o

Thanks for the translations!
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9041 Posts
June 19 2013 09:42 GMT
#28
Flash is more than a bonjwa.
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
June 19 2013 09:48 GMT
#29
I think raffle selections refers to how OGN does their group selection before. There WILL still be group selection, but the players dont have 100% control on selecting their groups. THe way they did it was the top 4 gets seeded and the other players will pick 2 random balls. Ex. A3 and B3, then he chooses which one he would prefer, and as far as I can remember, the 4 seeds also has the power to switch players around (once for 2nd to 4th seed and twice for the 1st seed).
Woo Jung Ho
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
June 19 2013 09:51 GMT
#30
INnoVation stated that you are a player that should receive bonjwa status. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Bonjwa

Since he was already declared not a bonjwa, but a level above them(God), Innovation is actually insulting Flash!

#shotsfired
"Start yo" -FlaSh
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44266 Posts
June 19 2013 10:34 GMT
#31
On June 19 2013 07:50 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Damn that's disappointing to hear about no group selection



they probably did thought its a bad idea .. for the record it created BSL last season and it was bad ...
this is a quote
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44266 Posts
June 19 2013 10:42 GMT
#32
ok .. two of the best in the world ATM namely soulkey(i still dont think hes the best zerg) and innovation(he is probably on the top of the entire sc2 population ) both are scared of flash .. scared might not be the right word .. ill settle with intimidated .. but flash must be really that good that even a player as good as innovation respects him that well ..

but come on innovation he's not bonjwa level YET ..

i still believe that innovation is so good but overhyped by fans ..

anyways nice article .. looking forward for JD and Flash rivalry again just like in BW if JD does not screw up in improving
this is a quote
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44266 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-19 10:46:29
June 19 2013 10:44 GMT
#33
On June 19 2013 18:21 crashonly wrote:
Flash has "no idea" why they're nerfing hellbats, lol. Sure hope he isn't relying on them too, too much, and can still win games without them.

Wonder why is Bbyong dissing Bunny so much :o

Thanks for the translations!


flash relies on marauder micro so much .. thats what i observed .. maybe i am so wrong haha
this is a quote
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44266 Posts
June 19 2013 10:45 GMT
#34
On June 19 2013 18:51 NicksonReyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
INnoVation stated that you are a player that should receive bonjwa status. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Bonjwa

Since he was already declared not a bonjwa, but a level above them(God), Innovation is actually insulting Flash!

#shotsfired



lol
this is a quote
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
June 19 2013 10:45 GMT
#35
Flash was also known in Broodwar for tweaking his build orders to perfection. He's losing a lot right now, but only with experience and those defeats he can adjust his build orders that they will be untouchable. Thing is, it was a lot easier in Broodwar to be all-around save compared to now. Lets see how long it takes until Flash will be able to completely read opponents and have his build orders tight.

Looking forward to follow his development once again. Thanks for the translation, good interviews.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
June 19 2013 10:47 GMT
#36
Flash has no idea why they are nerfing hellbats and uses TvP as excuse? They are not only used a lot in TvT but as well in TvZ. Was hoping better from him.
pencil_ethics
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia174 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-19 10:53:51
June 19 2013 10:51 GMT
#37
To dispel any concerns, the original question asked had nothing to do with bonjwa (let there be an end to the dispute right now). I will retranslate that question and answer only.

The season final champion INnoVation has said you are an exemplary player. (T/N: an alternative lesser translation is "your example is worth following", similar to role model)
I am not sure if I am that kind of player (laughter). I am grateful to hear that, and think hearing such words provides motivation for me to try harder. I will become a player suited to such compliments.
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
June 19 2013 10:59 GMT
#38
Flash not caring for hellbats makes sense. He is so slow and stubborn that by the time he incorporated them into his play they would have already been nerfed for a while. Nevertheless, him claiming ignorance is kinda cute.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
June 19 2013 11:01 GMT
#39
On June 19 2013 19:59 Daswollvieh wrote:
Flash not caring for hellbats makes sense. He is so slow and stubborn that by the time he incorporated them into his play they would have already been nerfed for a while. Nevertheless, him claiming ignorance is kinda cute.


Yeah or maybe pro players can defend them pretty well ... :x
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
June 19 2013 11:06 GMT
#40
Awww, SK didn't get to show off his ZvT.

No group selection!?!?!?
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Prev 1 2 3 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
INu's Battles
11:00
INu's Battles#14
ByuN vs ZounLIVE!
ByuN vs Rogue
IntoTheiNu 420
LiquipediaDiscussion
Escore
10:00
Week 4
escodisco2479
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
OGKoka 319
Lowko316
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 65778
Mini 462
BeSt 390
EffOrt 331
actioN 285
Soma 234
Light 188
Soulkey 161
Snow 158
Hyun 129
[ Show more ]
ggaemo 122
Dewaltoss 97
hero 96
JYJ 95
Pusan 70
Shinee 43
sSak 38
Sexy 32
Free 30
[sc1f]eonzerg 28
Barracks 24
scan(afreeca) 23
Shine 23
soO 21
sorry 21
Sacsri 11
Noble 10
Movie 9
GoRush 9
Dota 2
Gorgc1892
XaKoH 408
XcaliburYe153
ODPixel134
Counter-Strike
allub235
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King80
Heroes of the Storm
Trikslyr22
Other Games
gofns19287
singsing1411
B2W.Neo564
crisheroes358
Livibee56
QueenE1
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream14698
Other Games
gamesdonequick514
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 5
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1287
• Stunt528
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
5h 43m
Big Brain Bouts
5h 43m
PiG vs DeMusliM
Reynor vs Bunny
Replay Cast
12h 43m
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
23h 43m
Classic vs SHIN
MaxPax vs Percival
herO vs Clem
ByuN vs Rogue
Ladder Legends
1d 3h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 3h
BSL
1d 7h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 22h
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
1d 23h
Ladder Legends
2 days
[ Show More ]
BSL
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Soma vs hero
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Leta vs YSC
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
KCM Race Survival
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Escore
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-04-22
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Escore Tournament S2: W4
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W5
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.