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Extended Series is Back at MLG Spring Championship

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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8244 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-16 20:34:14
June 16 2013 20:00 GMT
#1
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1gfv54/mlg_adds_extended_series_back_into_mlg_spring/

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I thought MLG realized that Extended Series don't work.. Why are they back? I wish it was MLG that disappeared and not IPL. NASL should be given the rights to do WCS America instead of MLG.


Mod Edit: Please read the full set of rules. The bracket is divided into two halves, each operating as it's own double-elimination bracket. The winners of each bracket will play in the finals, ensuring that the two finalists will not have previously met in the tournament. So yes, extended series is back but will not affect the final match.
4tre55
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany330 Posts
June 16 2013 20:05 GMT
#2
Seriously, i thought that crap is finnaly over.
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6174 Posts
June 16 2013 20:08 GMT
#3
wow... why would you ever bring this back
n_n
TylerThaCreator
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States906 Posts
June 16 2013 20:08 GMT
#4
Why do they keep adding this shit despite widespread public backlash and hatred of the system? Should honestly start protesting this shit through nonparticipation to show MLG that we're tired of something flawed.
aka SethN
Flowjo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States928 Posts
June 16 2013 20:08 GMT
#5
Doesn't surprise me.... MLG is known to always piss me off.
IMNestea's biggest fan.
DMXD
Profile Joined February 2008
United States4064 Posts
June 16 2013 20:10 GMT
#6
As expected from MLG.

but seriously wtf...
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
June 16 2013 20:16 GMT
#7
I'm actually surprised how far MLG is willing to take this. Ever since they got exclusivity and monopoly power in NA, they've been pissing off the community and screwing things up. I think at this point it may even be MLG deliberately trying to see how far they can go against the community without financial backlash. A business experiment if you will. :p

Maybe if they implement this, and see that their bottom line doesn't get hurt too bad (stream viewership is roughly steady, attendance is roughly steady), they might even go further and reintroduce the beloved PPV system for all events

Who knows, maybe if Sundance is really good at negotiating, he could convince Blizzard to allow him to make WCS AM PPV as well! How splendid!
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
aristarchus
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States652 Posts
June 16 2013 20:17 GMT
#8
Ugh...

Has there ever been a starcraft fan or player who told MLG this was a good idea? It doesn't make any sense. They do whatever else they can to get viewers and make money, but they stick with extended series against all logic like it's some sort of weird religious obligation.
askmc70
Profile Joined March 2012
United States722 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-16 20:19:59
June 16 2013 20:19 GMT
#9
well it's mlg, they dont know how to do one thing right. all they know how to do is fuck things up, and just say sorry it wont happen again.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
June 16 2013 20:19 GMT
#10
What else do you expect? It's the MLG.
TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
June 16 2013 20:20 GMT
#11
more dumb decisions as always from mlg
Eve online FC, lover of all competition
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16090 Posts
June 16 2013 20:20 GMT
#12
Of course it's back guys, this is how they do double elimination.

Would you all rather have traditional double elimination where the person coming from the lower bracket has to win two series to win the finals?

It's double elimination, viewers want double elimination. This is part of what makes double elimination what it is. I don't understand the whining about it at all.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
SnipedSoul
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2158 Posts
June 16 2013 20:21 GMT
#13
Why is MLG so gung-ho on this? Imagine how bad GSL Ro32 and Ro16 would be if they used extended series.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
June 16 2013 20:22 GMT
#14
On June 17 2013 05:20 Vindicare605 wrote:
Of course it's back guys, this is how they do double elimination.

Would you all rather have traditional double elimination where the person coming from the lower bracket has to win two series to win the finals?

It's double elimination, viewers want double elimination. This is part of what makes double elimination what it is. I don't understand the whining about it at all.

Sometimes the 'fairest' option is not the best option for the viewers.
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16090 Posts
June 16 2013 20:22 GMT
#15
On June 17 2013 05:21 SnipedSoul wrote:
Why is MLG so gung-ho on this? Imagine how bad GSL Ro32 and Ro16 would be if they used extended series.


It isn't even remotely comparable, they use a COMPLETELY different tournament format, one that would be absolutely impossible with an open bracket involved.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
arterian
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1157 Posts
June 16 2013 20:22 GMT
#16
Extended series is a good idea. I don't know how anyone can dislike it. If you have a lower bracket, you need to reward the players that win. If you complain about the advantage, maybe it should just be like GSL where your tournament is over if you lose one series?
http://www.twitch.tv/arterian
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-16 20:25:18
June 16 2013 20:24 GMT
#17
On June 17 2013 05:20 Vindicare605 wrote:
Of course it's back guys, this is how they do double elimination.

Would you all rather have traditional double elimination where the person coming from the lower bracket has to win two series to win the finals?

It's double elimination, viewers want double elimination. This is part of what makes double elimination what it is. I don't understand the whining about it at all.

Um, yeah?

Double elimination = lose 2 series. If you win all until finals you need to lose 2 series. Otherwise it's not double elimination.

On June 17 2013 05:22 arterian wrote:
Extended series is a good idea. I don't know how anyone can dislike it. If you have a lower bracket, you need to reward the players that win. If you complain about the advantage, maybe it should just be like GSL where your tournament is over if you lose one series?

The problem is that extended series are TOO LITTLE advantage. WTF?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16090 Posts
June 16 2013 20:24 GMT
#18
On June 17 2013 05:22 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2013 05:20 Vindicare605 wrote:
Of course it's back guys, this is how they do double elimination.

Would you all rather have traditional double elimination where the person coming from the lower bracket has to win two series to win the finals?

It's double elimination, viewers want double elimination. This is part of what makes double elimination what it is. I don't understand the whining about it at all.

Sometimes the 'fairest' option is not the best option for the viewers.


Let's be honest here Plexa, the viewers are going to complain about something, no matter how much you try to appease them.

Extended Series is actually better for the viewers than the double series format we had at Blizzcon and IPL and people really hated that shit.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Nordom
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark5 Posts
June 16 2013 20:26 GMT
#19
I think most people in this thread are looking at the wrong thing...its number 4 not number 5 that shows the extended series.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16090 Posts
June 16 2013 20:26 GMT
#20
On June 17 2013 05:24 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2013 05:20 Vindicare605 wrote:
Of course it's back guys, this is how they do double elimination.

Would you all rather have traditional double elimination where the person coming from the lower bracket has to win two series to win the finals?

It's double elimination, viewers want double elimination. This is part of what makes double elimination what it is. I don't understand the whining about it at all.

Um, yeah?

Double elimination = lose 2 series. If you win all until finals you need to lose 2 series. Otherwise it's not double elimination.


Except people would hate that even more than the extended series. This is how MLG compromises. You can't just decide to make the later rounds a single elimination tournament because that would essentially punish a player for winning through the group stages and lower brackets because they're denied the same double elimination that everyone who loses before that gets.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
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