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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
June 18 2013 16:51 GMT
#181
On June 18 2013 21:52 Jedclark wrote:


I really thought I had seen the last of this shit. It honestly spoils finals for me. I don't get why one guy has to win twice, it just makes the finals stupid.

The finals don't have extended series.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Rabiator
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany3948 Posts
June 18 2013 17:21 GMT
#182
On June 18 2013 13:02 MonkSEA wrote:
Extended series is a FAIR advantage for the winning player, it's not impossible to comeback against. In the end you either watch MLG and support them or you don't, and we'll see if it's the minority complaining about this or the majority.

Why is it fair?

The players are meeting again under new circumstances. And if you would really make it "fair" you would have to take every series between player A and player B into account. Those lucky newbies wont have anything "on the record", but the serious pros would have to play "bo25" or something similarly ridiculous.

Extended series is awful for the tournament schedule, because a bo3 can "mutate" into a bo5 potentially.


On June 18 2013 13:02 MonkSEA wrote:
Leave extended series as it is, it's tried and tested and works.

... right until Goody plays a slow-mech bo5 match against someone else who isnt in a hurry and the whole thing turns into a 3 hour marathon.

Extended series is a PENALTY for all players involved if they have to play more than 3 games, because MLG is a "marathon" and not a "Korean one match per day" tournament. Thus it is in no way fair and clearly doesnt work.
If you cant say what you're meaning, you can never mean what you're saying.
arie3000
Profile Joined October 2011
153 Posts
June 18 2013 17:36 GMT
#183
Extended series, although somewhere it isn't unreasonable, is a bad idea.

Why? Because it confuses the viewership. This concept is pretty hard to grasp for someone just tuning in, and a higher chance of them saying "fuck this shit", and zapping away.
Why make things more complex than they already are, double-elimination is difficult enough to understand. Just make the semis a BO5 or something.

A tournament structure should always be easy to understand, and this isn't. That's bad.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
June 18 2013 18:02 GMT
#184
So is there any other sport/event that got something like extended series?
I am really trying to figure out why they keep hammering it even tough the majority clearly dislikes it.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 18 2013 18:07 GMT
#185
On June 19 2013 03:02 Assirra wrote:
So is there any other sport/event that got something like extended series?
I am really trying to figure out why they keep hammering it even tough the majority clearly dislikes it.

Most major sports don't have double elimination. However, most major sports have some sort of advantage built into their rules for the more winning team, like more home games in the playoffs. That kind of stuff is a big deal. In America Football, some teams have domes, but others have outdoor fields and which one they play on can really affect a team.

So nothing exactly like extended series, but there is stuff out there that gives the advantage to the team/player who is higher ranked.
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Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
June 18 2013 18:09 GMT
#186
On June 19 2013 03:07 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2013 03:02 Assirra wrote:
So is there any other sport/event that got something like extended series?
I am really trying to figure out why they keep hammering it even tough the majority clearly dislikes it.

Most major sports don't have double elimination. However, most major sports have some sort of advantage built into their rules for the more winning team, like more home games in the playoffs. That kind of stuff is a big deal. In America Football, some teams have domes, but others have outdoor fields and which one they play on can really affect a team.

So nothing exactly like extended series, but there is stuff out there that gives the advantage to the team/player who is higher ranked.

While that is certainly big that is not even close to extended series tough. Instead of giving more home games it should be more compared to giving a free point when the match start. Sure playing on the field you are used to have an advantage but it's not giving you free points in a match (unless you trapped the place )
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 18 2013 18:12 GMT
#187
On June 19 2013 03:09 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2013 03:07 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2013 03:02 Assirra wrote:
So is there any other sport/event that got something like extended series?
I am really trying to figure out why they keep hammering it even tough the majority clearly dislikes it.

Most major sports don't have double elimination. However, most major sports have some sort of advantage built into their rules for the more winning team, like more home games in the playoffs. That kind of stuff is a big deal. In America Football, some teams have domes, but others have outdoor fields and which one they play on can really affect a team.

So nothing exactly like extended series, but there is stuff out there that gives the advantage to the team/player who is higher ranked.

While that is certainly big that is not even close to extended series tough. Instead of giving more home games it should be more compared to giving a free point when the match start. Sure playing on the field you are used to have an advantage but it's not giving you free points in a match (unless you trapped the place )

The Superbowl is held if February and my home team play in the snow, ice and frost. It is a huge advantage if they get more games at home than away in the play offs. Since American football is a bo1, that stuff matters a lot.
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