I picked a lot of players that I believed were under-rated but playing; I also picked lots of KT and WJS because I felt they'd keep doing well. For my anti-team I picked players that won't play this week. I'm going to try to optimize my anti-team though, I think it will do terribly in the long run.
Four of these players appear in The_Templar's team. Should I be worried? :p I didn't realise until I created the team that I'd picked four zergs, which removes some flexibility for trading. I picked people I thought were under-valued. Stats was over-shadowed by Flash and Zest in Round 5 but they can't hog all the wins in this format. Similarly Light and ZerO are regulars in this format. I don't expect much of CJ Entus but I prefer spending points on players.
Even though TY went 14-6 in Round 5 his overall stats are 23-23, so I don't expect TY to be worth the same as sOs, Soulkey, PartinG, etc. Shine is 3-13 overall and I think his appearance in week 1 says more about Samsung KHAN's lack of depth than Shine's skill. Plus everyone knows to prepare for something aggressive from him
Woongjin Stars as my team should be self-explanatory and unless they decide they don't want to take things seriously and start fielding mostly rookies, they should win at least 5 of their matches this round. Zest was crazy good last round; being able to out-PvP pretty much everyone is a useful skill toi have in PvProleague. Flying, Rudy and Kassia are all on Woongjin which should bring in a few cheap points, and I expect Flying to take a few games on top of that. Rain has been unreasonably solid (except his loss to Oz) over the last 20 games, going, I think, 16-4, and he should be able to perform well enough in this format as well, especially if it comes down to the ace match where he's proven himself invaluable. As for Argo, we watched him transform into Acehoon earlier in Proleague, and I want to think he can do that again, but picking him was a slight leap of faith.
T8 has been struggling in HotS, and I'm banking on Terminator not performing too well and on T8 losing most of their matches. Bong is, well, I hope he doesn't win too much. free was a questionable choice, but I keep thinking he'll eventually crumble. We'll see.
I'm going mad gimmicky this time. Four team aces in herO, Soulkey, Roro, and TY (though Jangbi might be the Khan ace now, this is all I could afford). Filled the rest with one pointers - two KT players who might play once or twice but more importantly should get a few points from KT winning. Finally CJ as my team because they're my favourite and hopefully cant suck forever.
Anti-team is a bit concerning but I think thats pretty much always gonna be the case. Fantasy looked kinda bad last night and I dont imagine Taeja to play too much.
I picked a lot of players that I believed were under-rated but playing; I also picked lots of KT and WJS because I felt they'd keep doing well. For my anti-team I picked players that won't play this week. I'm going to try to optimize my anti-team though, I think it will do terribly in the long run.
Man your anti-team seems like a dangerous game to be playing
Stats and Crazy-Hydra are practically in every KT Rolster match, Flying, Soulkey and ZerO are practically in every Woongjin Stars Match, BarrackS is there as i needed a Terran player and he might get a few points through KT Rolster winning. Hopefully Woongjin Stars and KT Rolster continue to dominate in this round.
RevivaL is overall pretty bad in ProLeague, TaeJa rarely plays in it, JaeDong will probably screw me points wise but i needed him to complete my full Evil Genius-Team Liquid anti team.
I picked a lot of players that I believed were under-rated but playing; I also picked lots of KT and WJS because I felt they'd keep doing well. For my anti-team I picked players that won't play this week. I'm going to try to optimize my anti-team though, I think it will do terribly in the long run.
Man your anti-team seems like a dangerous game to be playing
Ace - 'Cause Rain Bisu - 'Cause Bisu Flying - He's on a great team and he's their go-to Protoss after sOs Light - He performed so well for Woonjin in Round 4 and he wasn't too expensive so I thought, hey, why not soO - 3 points and he said in his interview he's good so, I trust him Stats - It's Stats and he's on Flash and Zest's team SKT - BoxeR
Anti-team - Just all gambles on who might under perform
Main Team 4 Argo(Jaehoon) (captain) cheap ace 3 Bisu very cute 3 Brown I hope he win his game 4 Light need terran 6 RorO he was good, hope he will find his best 7 Soulkey the champ 3 SK Telecom T1 SKTT1 OK !
Anti Team 6 Fantasy 2 Solar(BBatta) 5 TaeJa I will have to trade. Fantasy or Taeja in the next week. Will see.
Main Team Bisu Keep hoping Bisu will return to glory and he's on SKT who I think will dominate this Round Dark Mostly Filler though I think he'll win if they do send him out. Plus he's on SKT Fantasy I believe in Fantasy and think he'll come out big by taking out INnoVation if STX even gets that far. JangBi He's my favorite BW player and also my favorite SC2 player and is my captain just like he's always been. Stats I think he'll do great this round for the great KT team bringing them many map wins. ZerO I do believe he will be Wongjins ACE player this season and will do great work. SK Telecom T1 Best team in the KeSPA camp, they will win Proleague because they are awesome!
Anti-Team Bong After his initial loss against ZerO I don't think he'll come out a lot. herO[jOin] I'm pretty much banking this Anti-Team on herO failing hard this round. Kop IF he plays at all I don't think he'll win anything.
All that said I have a history of picking horrible anti-teams but here's hoping this time it'll go right!
Im probably way to protoss heavy but I think PvProleage will prevail yet again. Mainly picked players I think will play every match,except Hanbin who is wjs and will get points from their wins. Terminator is very cheap at only points 3, would be a wast not to get him.
Anti team is hard as always and Jangbi will push my shit in but he is the worst 7 pointer by far...
Main Team 2 Best - Mostly a filler but tends to get fielded atleast once or twice every round. 7 Parting (captain) - More heart than brain behind this pick. Might regret not picking sOs but Parting is one of my favorite players. 4 Reality - I had a hard time finding a terran for my team, but I feel Reality is slightly undervalued at 4 points so I went with him. 6 RorO - An ace player who is strong enough to beat anyone in the league. Not bad for 6 points. 3 soO - Best zerg on SKT. Feel like he is worth more than 3 points. 5 Stats - Probably a bit undervalued and forgotten because of Zest's amazing results in round five. However, I still think Stats is the better player between the two and almost a steal for 5 points. 3 SK Telecom T1 - I might be biased here as a protoss player, but I think SKT is just as good as any of the other teams.
Out of all the players, I felt Hyvaa and Classic were the most overvalued. They happened to be on the same team, so I just added Last to the anti team since he never seems to get fielded in pro league. I'm hoping STX will go on a big losing streak, which definitely could happen now that they can't rely on Innovation's all kills.
Not sure about the anti team, players above 3 points all seem so reliable. TY had only one good round just now and I'm not sure yet that it wasn't somewhat of a fluke, might just gamble on everyone figuring him out.
Bong>>>>>>>Zero, he's also CJ's second best protoss so far (trust might cockblock him, hopefully not) Bunny and skyhigh are gunna be fighting to take bbyong's or songduri's spot, and even if bunny doesn't make it onto the roster he's a free point for every time cj wins (every match btw). Effort is a baller herO[join] is a mega baller Innovation is a super mega baller Turn is kinda good maybe? Should be able to kick hitman in the nuts pretty ez CJ is gonna have a perfect round
Taeja (and EGTL) don't play this round, same with Argo/8th. Going to be looking to trade either argo or taeja before next week, most likely argo though unfortunately i don't know how good taeja is any more :\
[B]Out of all the players, I felt Hyvaa and Classic were the most overvalued. They happened to be on the same team, so I just added Last to the anti team since he never seems to get fielded in pro league. I'm hoping STX will go on a big losing streak, which definitely could happen now that they can't rely on Innovation's all kills.
True hyvaa and classic are both overvalued, but with Trap, Dear, and INnoVation, I think its highly unlikely STX will go on a big losing streak.
Ace - 'Cause Rain Bisu - 'Cause Bisu Flying - He's on a great team and he's their go-to Protoss after sOs Light - He performed so well for Woonjin in Round 4 and he wasn't too expensive so I thought, hey, why not soO - 3 points and he said in his interview he's good so, I trust him Stats - It's Stats and he's on Flash and Zest's team SKT - BoxeR
Anti-team - Just all gambles on who might under perform
You forgot the golden rule of FPL: never anti team RorO...
The name is obvious #FPLmindgames and apparently your main team being 6 trots isn't allowed so I had to settle on this mediocre main team. As for anti-team 3 player I've never really regarded as much, don't see how classic is a 5 pointer but I'm not turning down him to fill out the anti.
Like always, Flash is the mandatory pick for me. After that, I chose Fantasy and Roro, two players I really like. Went for KT as team last round (always a good pick for all-kill format), but now that we're back to normal mode, Woongjin is definitely the best bet. The rest of my main team are just 1-pointers from Woongjin, and a needed protoss in Comet. They should not play, but will give points anyway from Stars winning.
Imo hyvaa is vastly overrated at 6 points, so he's a good anti pick. Light is rarely seen, and SongDuri even less so.
This team won't win, but last round when I went with my favorites, I got to rank 14 (!), so using pretty much the same strat of picking my favorite players. It should be a lot of fun.
Edit: Had a change of heart, and changed Light for Jaehoon. We'll see if that's smart.
[B]Out of all the players, I felt Hyvaa and Classic were the most overvalued. They happened to be on the same team, so I just added Last to the anti team since he never seems to get fielded in pro league. I'm hoping STX will go on a big losing streak, which definitely could happen now that they can't rely on Innovation's all kills.
True hyvaa and classic are both overvalued, but with Trap, Dear, and INnoVation, I think its highly unlikely STX will go on a big losing streak.
I'll be happy as long as Classic and Hyvaa keeps losing. Besides, I don't think Trap and Dear are all that good anyway so I'm not too worried about my picks. But I'm aware that picking three players from the same team is a bit of a gamble and could end up biting me in the ass.
Well, what can I say... not too much time to think about this, since I have to go to sleep. I think ZerO is undervalued at 4. Soulkey as an ace for WJS, should be bringing points. Light is there since I needed terran and he actually has a chance of winning his first match - and was pretty good for WJS in R4. Stats should be also bringing points, I don't feel he is worse then Zest and he costs 2 points less. Brown and Crazy are cheap players, who have the biggest chance of winning their first matches, imo. Will probably trade them later if possible. Then I was left with 3 points and I invested them into SKT - for a while I couldn't decide between SKT+Stats or WJS+TurN, but I think the first option will bring more points in the end.
As far as my anti team goes - SonGDuri hopefully loses first game and then doesn't play again, TaeJa doesn't tend to play SPL (although, I will probably trade him away, if he ends up playing) and Classic I feel is overvalued (+ he plays vs Rain in the first week..)
Main Team: Best gets fielded sometimes and plays for SKT T1 (team points). Dear has been solid throughout the entire season.He won the last time he faced soO. Hanbin cause he is 1 p and plays for WJS (team points). Rain and sOs is the top toss players in PL and aces for their teams. ZerO is a little underated at 4 p and I need 1 zerg. SK Telecom T1 can defeat every team and only cost 3 p.
Anti Team: EffOrt is a gamble but I hope he loses to sOs and then I might trade him. SonGDuri Im not counting on him winning many games. TaeJa doesnt play much and no schedule is up for EGTL.
Team : I had to take Rain as Captain since he's the Ace player for SKT1 and .. like I said, he plays for SKT1 ^^. Then FanTaSy's just my favourite player in here so .. like every round, I must take him. Bisu is Bisu, can do great things (sometimes he plays really bad) but it's Bisu <3. I Think RorO will regain his form & strengh he had before round 5 and will win most of his games (or I really hope so ^^). hitmaN killed me during Round 4 ... I think this format just fits him perfectly since he prepares build and play them with some kind of perfection ^^. Finally Hanbin ... he's a Terran and plays for WS ... SKT1 for 3 pts ... that's my favourite team and it's cheap ^^
Anti team : TaeJa won't play 1st Week, and I trade him when the time's right ^^. Classic is good, but i don't see him winning a lot this time. SonGDuri is the worst player for 3 pts i could find ^^
Dear because STX and not enough points for Innovation Hyuk and Major for a couple cheap slots TY because he'll probably be acing for T8 Zest because KT and Protoss SKT because SKT is one of the cheaper better teams
hyvaa for anti because 6 seems pretty overpriced Taeja because he doesn't play much, he's on EGTL, and wrist injuries
I think my strategy here is fairly obvious. Anti-teaming TY is a little worrisome after how well he played last round, but we can hope he falls off a bit this round.
[No I don't actually think Protoss is OP, it just worked out that I had four Protoss players and SKT]
Rain: An expensive big-hitter is important. I went with him because he is cheaper than the two dominating terrans but is about equally strong in SPL and likely to have to play ace match/es. Fantasy: I might change this soon. Not sure if he is worth it. Stats: On a strong team and likely to be fielded. Had decent performaces in the last rounds. Reality: He will play a lot. Since it's not winner's league he might actually win some. Revival: Will most likely play a lot. Has a good shot at 50% win rate. Only 2 points... bbyong: Seemed to be the least terrible 2-pointer left... SKT: Strong contender with a deep line-up. Only 3 points.
TaeJa: For some reason he doesn't get to play much. EGTL are not racking points either. Seems to be the best anti-team pick. Zero: He wasn't sent to play even once in the last round... But he is on Woongjin and his choice might bite me in the ass later. Trap: Not a good player on a mediocre team that costs 4 points.
Since its final fantasy, then its time for the ultima weapon. I chose flash as an ace because KT doesn't have a lot of depth and they often go to ace match where they almost always send flash.
Then a lot of good undervalued players who almost always appears in lineups. Revival as a gamble for 2 and because + Show Spoiler +
Innovation may have just lost the GSL, but I think that will only fuel his training efforts more for the SPL. Bisu is badass and so is soO, I'm not sure why they had such low team values. aLive is the only other player besides Hero who can win a game for EG-TL. Lastly, Brown and Flying are both part of good all around teams, they practice with the best and have the best coaches, but honestly they were kind of wild cards that I just picked.
Going with WJS for main team, I really think they will continue to do well. Zest for captain seemed a good price for a player with good winrate and sent out quite often. Soulkey and RorO because they are bosses. Last/Action/Zenio was just how felt best worked out with my points after grabbing wjs/zest/soulkey/roro...can't have em all.
Anti. Just kinda gut feeling it and hoping for minimal point loss.
Main team: # An all-Terran line-up again, as always. My aim is not to win the FPL, it's to do it with Terran :D # Going for the Innovation - Fantasy star duo. They're playing each other first round, which may be suboptimal and overly safe from my part, but I do believe they will be the most consistent duo of Terrans at this cost. I would have liked Flash - BaBy better in an All-Kill format, but I need some decent medium-size picks to get points, whereas I could just get carried by 2-3 monsters last round, so I had to cut 2 points on my star duo :/ # Medium-quality Terrans: Reality and Light. They're solid players, and playing really weak opponents first round. I'm confident they'll bring me good value for their cost. # A splash of Protoss, with Oz: Oz is capable of beating strong players especially in PvP, as demonstrated in the last EGTL match. This will certainly come in handy in a PvP-filled Proleague metagame, and I'm hoping to grab some points from my Protoss pick even though I would like to rely purely on Terrans. # A random Zerg B-teamer on SKT, which I believe is the strongest team in the format. Hoping to grab the 1 point of victory. # Hence, my team is SKT :D
Anti team: I was a bit less inspired for this anti-team. I went with medium-strength-ish players who I believe should lose to their first round opponent. We'll see.
i dunno i didnt really think too much about it as i did before and it didnt really work out so im just w/e now :D zest and parting good for 7 pts and pretty much always played imo (also protoss) jaedong when i pick him for anti team he owns so beware alive really good for 3 (seeing oz is also 3 but i took him for anti) bbyong only 2??? action dunno had 2 pts left with skt1 which are cheap for 3 pts also oz taeja effort dunno, really hard for anti team this round
Wanted to go all Protoss but ofc found out not allowed. If Revival had been 1 point wouldve taken him, likewise wouldve taken DeMuslim if I thought he would ever be in Korea to earn some points.
Usually like WJS players alot (Soulkey esp.) but since their probably going to close out the top spot and then just play trainees for experience after the first 2 games, I don't think that'd be a wise choice. So instead I choose players who are on teams that will need to fight to remain in the playoffs. I like how JangBi's been playing lately and had my biggest regrets in round 4 FPL for not picking him, so he gets his spot. Samsung got a really good team point value so I choose them as my team which made me think Roro would also be a good choice to complement. Bisu was the best SKT player i could afford, adn i think he's a steal at three, so i took him. Flash is flash, and will probably play every game and all ace's, due to how the standings are shaping up, so he gets captain. Huk and swift are just my 1-pointers.
Taeja probably won't play this round, HerO[Join} has been really under performing lately and a one pointer for the anti-team.
Maintained Hydra, Free, Flash, and Hanbin from my last team. Really sad that I had to let Innovation go, but Flash+Innovation were just too many points, if I went with them then I'd have a core of only two streaky players, unless I wanted a team worse than SKT (which I think is a steal for 3 points). This way, I get to have Free and Hydra, because I like me some players who've secured all-kills in the past, and I also get Bisu for 3 points. And I wouldn't be surprised to see Snute do well As for the anti-team: I wanted a 4-4-5 balance because I really wanted to avoid having a streaky player on there screw me over at the start. (Taeja, sadly, hasn't been in shape lately... I do hope his wrists are getting better.)
I made the top 200 last time, I hope I can repeat it this time.
only 3 for SKT is good deal. I think Bisu can beat hyvaa in Week one so i chose him, he's only 3 again. HerO is getting really good in proleague plus he's awesome so gotta pick him. ZerO for 4 is a pretty good deal though recently he hasn't had any exceptional rounds.
Flying has kind of been my dark horse in FPL since round 1 of SPL. Always choose the kid Free in the same boat. Never followed SPL till EGTL, started scouting the teams and became a huge woongjin fan. HerO has the potential to be the most dominant protoss in pro league this round. He will be training incredibly hard and incredibly smart for WCS as well Light cuz he's on woongjin Soulkey because he's soulkey. Best zerg in the world. Has trended worldwide on twitter. Can take down best terran in the world (I think he is better, people say innovation choked. Soulkey put him on tilt cuz he's the next ultimate zerg badass) Light because he's on woongjin, worth 1 point so I can get these other superstars. Put him as capt because you can't trade capt, and can't trade low pointers. If HerO were to choke (God forbid) I don't want to regret having his as capt EGTL because they are 1 point and I think will have a winning record this round Definitely going to be fiddling with anti-team. Not too confident in that
Regarding the speculation that woongjin stars' will start using their back up players if they lock in the top seed, is this traditionally the case in proleague? In NFL or NBA, it makes sense to rest the top players in an attempt to 1) give them rest 2) minimize the risk of injury. But in SC, I have a hard time imagining if either of these will apply. If anything, as a manager, I would choose to satisfy the proleague sponsors and the fans by showcasing my top players. The only arguable drawback, at least on paper, is that the players are "revealing" potential strategies or build orders. But if such argument is applicable, you can simply choose not to use the "ultimate" build order or whatever. If anything, you can use these extra games to fake advertise to opponents, your weakness or tendencies, etc.
Chose Innovation over Flash, because Innovation is going to be STX's ace almost all the time. Flash will also be the ace most of the time, but I can see Zest or Stats as ace, especially in maps that favor protoss.
herO and RorO are both aces, and not much competition exists. Maybe Effort and Jangbi could pose a threat as competing ace, but prob not too likely. At least in mind, these picks were better than picking either sOs or Soulkey, whose ace probability is prob around 50%... this is not counting ZerO and free, tho at this time, probably only a small concern.
Bbyoung hasn't been performing well, but at least he is probably a bargain at 2, as he seems to be in the line up frequently in a team (CJ Entus) where there aren't many terran competitors.
Team .. CJ Entus...... they were cheap.
ANTI TEAM: Alive, Hero, Oz... All EGTL players..... so none of them play this week. well Hero and Alive will be at the WCS Finals next week, hopefully this will prevent them from appearing in the proleague line up. I will prob trade out Hero after next two weeks....... but Alive, even when he plays, he prob won't get too many wins. and EGTL team means that most of the time they will not get the additional team win bonus. Oz .. a bit worried about but who else to get at 3?
On June 03 2013 11:58 YourHarry wrote: Regarding the speculation that woongjin stars' will start using their back up players if they lock in the top seed, is this traditionally the case in proleague? In NFL or NBA, it makes sense to rest the top players in an attempt to 1) give them rest 2) minimize the risk of injury. But in SC, I have a hard time imagining if either of these will apply. If anything, as a manager, I would choose to satisfy the proleague sponsors and the fans by showcasing my top players. The only arguable drawback, at least on paper, is that the players are "revealing" potential strategies or build orders. But if such argument is applicable, you can simply choose not to use the "ultimate" build order or whatever. If anything, you can use these extra games to fake advertise to opponents, your weakness or tendencies, etc.
Assuming you have a lock on top seed, i would assume that it would be nice for some of your lower tier players to get some booth/stage experience.
Spent most of my pts on Soulkey since there aren't many top-tier Zergs in Proleague, pretty much just Soulkey or RorO, but I decided to pick Soulkey since RorO is up against Zest this week. Was definitely thinking about grabbing RorO though since he's really cheap and worth more than 6 pts.
The rest of my team I picked based on their matchups this week and I think (hope) they'll all win.
Picked SKT1 as my team since they're probably the most deep team in the league, which is perfect for this round.
Main Team Eh, pretty much everyone is going to win* except Revival, who isn't playing. Flying will lose* so he's one of those players I'm gonna have to pray for. It's PvP, too, so lots of hoping needed. These guys are going to be played a lot, but my main focus was to rack up a lot of points from Week 1. I'm going to be trade heavy, so don't expect them all to stay long though.
*According to Aligulac.
Anti-Team: TaeJa is a must have. First, his team isn't playing. Second, his injuries may further prevent him from lineup appearances. He may be a good switch into main team but that all depends on line ups. (5/13) Jaedong is risky because he will play a lot; however, just not this week. I HAVE to trade him after this week's matches because it is guaranteed he will show up. I may switch him with someone else but anti-teams are harder this time. Check is a two pointer from T8, who is also not playing this week. I'm a bit iffy because Check might be played a lot, meaning I'll have to trade both JD and Check from my anti next week.
My anti-team revolves around TaeJa, and that makes it difficult to choose the other two. I may have to switch out all three if I change my mind on TaeJa.
So based on "careful research", I've concluded that the players in my main are the best value for cost / most likely to continue their success based on past results in this format =P
I've noticed a decided lack of Jangbang in ppl's predictions, didn't he just get a 3kill? Revival and Oz both had strong showings in their last match (Oz in PvP which means he will be seeing some serious playtime). Turn because I remember seeing he beat Innovation somehow. SKT-1 because they were cheap and I think they are going to wreck nuts with their brotoss lineup. Zest is easy, he racks in a butload of kills. Classic is just solid as a toss.
Anti Team: Although I think Hero is good, he's not 7 points good. Stork has been underwhelming for a while. Brown is too green on a team of veteran tosses who will be played before him.
Jaehoon is gonna get sent out everytime. Bbyong might win vs Soulkey but I'm not really betting on that. He's good enough for 2 points. Classic never fails me. Free is good. Hitman is KT's sniper player, good enough for 3. I still think Stats is a better overall player than P7GAB. KT is KT.
Jaedong not playing this week, might trade him next unless he's matched against a vastly superior player. Solar is not gonna see playtime with Roro and Shine around. Taeja best anti pick of the whole Proleague season.
Main: Roro (captain) JangBi Reality Shine Kop Turn Samsung Khan
Anti: Zest aLive Oz
Yes, it's a "only Khan players" team. I love doing that, because i have to cheer for the team, i don't play for win FPL. But at the moment, i did a great pick with RoRo and Zest (anti), thanks to the first match of PL .
All-in on T1. Not sure why I feel drawn to them. I have since the start. Maybe it's the logo. I gave them my bw liquibets because of it. Picked the anti based on round 4.