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HystericaLaughter
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia720 Posts
May 17 2013 14:36 GMT
#341
I would prefer EG started picking up some more NA talent (Suppy was a good start) and really established a base of talented NA players. I think they're down to four now? Huk, Machine, Incontrol and Suppy, where Suppy was recently acquired and Incontrol is arguably more of a personality than player atm.

Someone correct me if I missed a player.
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govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
May 17 2013 14:38 GMT
#342
On May 17 2013 23:28 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 23:12 partydude89 wrote:
On May 17 2013 23:09 KingG wrote:
Wax what about a a liquid post? They've arguably freed up a good deal of cash and team spots. Not trying to convert this to a liquid thread but would love to see a similar thread about them.


They almost exclusively try to pick up underrated players and try and grow them up. so it would probably be wrong to say they are picking up parting or life, even if they had the cash to do so.

Liquid.Life would be the ultimate ID for an alcoholic though


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KingG
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3 Posts
May 17 2013 14:41 GMT
#343
On May 17 2013 23:12 partydude89 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 23:09 KingG wrote:
Wax what about a a liquid post? They've arguably freed up a good deal of cash and team spots. Not trying to convert this to a liquid thread but would love to see a similar thread about them.


They almost exclusively try to pick up underrated players and try and grow them up. so it would probably be wrong to say they are picking up parting or life, even if they had the cash to do so.


Wasn't suggesting life or anyone else as a pickup (though liquid life would be great) but with the departure of sea, haypro, jinro and nony and with Sheth's hiatus liquid is primed for some pickups of their own this year. at least another terran
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lemonbone
Profile Joined August 2009
Hong Kong154 Posts
May 17 2013 14:46 GMT
#344
EG will become a casters team :D
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Ettick
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States2434 Posts
May 17 2013 14:57 GMT
#345
On May 17 2013 23:28 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 23:12 partydude89 wrote:
On May 17 2013 23:09 KingG wrote:
Wax what about a a liquid post? They've arguably freed up a good deal of cash and team spots. Not trying to convert this to a liquid thread but would love to see a similar thread about them.


They almost exclusively try to pick up underrated players and try and grow them up. so it would probably be wrong to say they are picking up parting or life, even if they had the cash to do so.

Liquid.Life would be the ultimate ID for an alcoholic though

Crazy is pretty good too though
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
May 17 2013 15:09 GMT
#346
Honestly losing Stephano and IdrA is a pretty big blow to the foreign scene and EG. No one else has their fan base and marketing value. This industry is pretty much built on popular, marketable players and personalities. EG can't replace IdrA and Stephano. They have objectively lost some marketing value.
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
May 17 2013 15:28 GMT
#347
On May 18 2013 00:09 Doodsmack wrote:
Honestly losing Stephano and IdrA is a pretty big blow to the foreign scene and EG. No one else has their fan base and marketing value. This industry is pretty much built on popular, marketable players and personalities. EG can't replace IdrA and Stephano. They have objectively lost some marketing value.


Doesnt have to be.

Viewers Stephano before and in EG. Because it could well be EG gives them the circumstances to get way more viewers then when there on other teams.
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partydude89
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1850 Posts
May 17 2013 17:17 GMT
#348
On May 17 2013 23:41 KingG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 23:12 partydude89 wrote:
On May 17 2013 23:09 KingG wrote:
Wax what about a a liquid post? They've arguably freed up a good deal of cash and team spots. Not trying to convert this to a liquid thread but would love to see a similar thread about them.


They almost exclusively try to pick up underrated players and try and grow them up. so it would probably be wrong to say they are picking up parting or life, even if they had the cash to do so.


Wasn't suggesting life or anyone else as a pickup (though liquid life would be great) but with the departure of sea, haypro, jinro and nony and with Sheth's hiatus liquid is primed for some pickups of their own this year. at least another terran


but you see, EG has a nack for picking up really high profile players. so its easier for Wax to look at, lets say, the top 5 players with expiring contracts, then to try and look up the tons upon tons of upcoming players, and try to say when/if they will join liquid. EG also just got a lot of cash to give out to other players with Stephano, Idra, and HuK. Liquid has had that money from their players for a while now, and hasn't made a move. Also note that im pretty sure that Jinro and Nony weren't doing to great at the time of their departure, so i don't think that their salary is comparable to idra's or Stephano's salaries.
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SoniC_eu
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark1008 Posts
May 17 2013 17:24 GMT
#349
A very itneresting tale to follow for sure Hmmm lets see what happens guys
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thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5500 Posts
May 18 2013 08:02 GMT
#350
On May 17 2013 03:35 danl9rm wrote:
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On May 17 2013 02:19 thezanursic wrote:
On May 17 2013 02:05 danl9rm wrote:
I always wondered what would happen if Flash/Jaedong were on the same team. I think they'd either push each other so hard in competition that no one could touch them, or one would lose his confidence and become only a shadow of his former self.

As cool as Life would be, I'd rather JD stay ace zerg. Get him a 'toss to practice against instead.

This isn't BW -.-

When JD and Flash somehow manage to play a 30-50 minute epic TvZ every other time they play. I'll admit that SC2 is as consistant in terms of skill as BW

+ Show Spoiler +


Also a 75% winrate from Flash that he achived (2009 to 2012) and 70% over his entire will also help. About 80% if you exclude Bisu, Fantasy, Stork and JD himself.


While I, along with everyone else, am overjoyed at every new instance of "This isn't BW," I fail to grasp the reason it was uttered here. But, thanks.

Because the JD v Flash rivalry doesn't exist anymore?
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Virid
Profile Joined November 2010
United States130 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-18 08:16:54
May 18 2013 08:15 GMT
#351
Alex discussed in the last EGTL appearance of proleague that WCS has changed everything, and showed very little interest in continued proleague performance.


This is coupled with the struggles of NSH, MVP, Prime, STX, Woongjin, and Team 8. I'm really confused as to the current situation of sponsorships in Korea. Someone should do a write up so we can discuss the health of the Korean scene; I think it's fairly anemic at present.
mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
May 18 2013 08:34 GMT
#352
On May 18 2013 17:15 Virid wrote:
Alex discussed in the last EGTL appearance of proleague that WCS has changed everything, and showed very little interest in continued proleague performance.


This is coupled with the struggles of NSH, MVP, Prime, STX, Woongjin, and Team 8. I'm really confused as to the current situation of sponsorships in Korea. Someone should do a write up so we can discuss the health of the Korean scene; I think it's fairly anemic at present.

How is MVP struggling?
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kuan888
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada305 Posts
May 18 2013 08:52 GMT
#353
Meanwhile Coach Park is building a secret team.
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AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-18 09:21:02
May 18 2013 09:18 GMT
#354
Wouldn't be happy if Life went there But yes, It's an interesting phase for EG. Thorzain will probably retire soon as well.


On May 18 2013 17:15 Virid wrote:

This is coupled with the struggles of NSH, MVP, Prime, STX, Woongjin, and Team 8. I'm really confused as to the current situation of sponsorships in Korea. Someone should do a write up so we can discuss the health of the Korean scene; I think it's fairly anemic at present.


Is that really true? I know team 8 isn't well off, but wasn't aware the other two were struggling. I know very little about KESPA teams.
Irrational_Animal
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1059 Posts
May 18 2013 09:29 GMT
#355
In the case of Liquid I could see them pick up Krass. He was one of the three training partners for TLO´s second groupstage (he mentioned the others were Lucifron and Alive) and TLO talks highly about his attitude towards the game (the last time TLO praised a non-TL, non-superstar player in the public, it was Snute). Krass would certainly fit into the profile of both being mannered / not being on the public radar, while having plenty of talent. Fr TL I feel it makes more sense to bolster their foreigner squad: with the WCS the EU-scene is receiving plenty of attention, whereas in KR it makes only sense to invest into players if you can provide them a teamhouse environment.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 18 2013 09:32 GMT
#356
if EG keeps coach park i miiiight be ok with them picking up prime's top 4
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malaan
Profile Joined September 2010
365 Posts
May 18 2013 09:32 GMT
#357
Theres no way in hell EG will get ahold of Flash. His salary is rumored to be $250K..
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
May 18 2013 09:35 GMT
#358
On May 18 2013 18:32 malaan wrote:
Theres no way in hell EG will get ahold of Flash. His salary is rumored to be $250K..

EG paid $60k yearly for the Arizona house, and considered it a drop in the bucket.
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KvltMan
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sweden1609 Posts
May 18 2013 09:35 GMT
#359
On May 18 2013 18:18 AxionSteel wrote:
Is that really true? I know team 8 isn't well off, but wasn't aware the other two were struggling. I know very little about KESPA teams.


Yep.

http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/news/23973-stx-group-in-cash-crysis-future-of-proteam-unknown
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/biz/2012/09/123_120935.html
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mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
May 18 2013 09:55 GMT
#360
On May 18 2013 18:18 AxionSteel wrote:
Wouldn't be happy if Life went there But yes, It's an interesting phase for EG. Thorzain will probably retire soon as well.


Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 17:15 Virid wrote:

This is coupled with the struggles of NSH, MVP, Prime, STX, Woongjin, and Team 8. I'm really confused as to the current situation of sponsorships in Korea. Someone should do a write up so we can discuss the health of the Korean scene; I think it's fairly anemic at present.


Is that really true? I know team 8 isn't well off, but wasn't aware the other two were struggling. I know very little about KESPA teams.

Why would Thorzain retire pretty soon? He hasn't expressed any such interest, and you can still compete and study at the same time unless you're doing something like medicine, engineering or law or some other soul-sucking degree of the sort.

As regards Woongjin and STX, it is their parent companies that aren't doing well at all. in fact they haven't even tried to invest in LoL, and considering how huge LoL in Korea is, it is worrying that a team of the sort doesn't try to do so (albeit Samsung Khan don't have a team either). Woongjin and STX invest a lot of money in their eSport teams, so you could assume that getting rid of the team would be one of the first cost cutting measures.

There's still more than enough teams in Korea, with the GSTL teams. It doesn't make much sense to be that barrier between the KeSPA and eSF teams now. If EG-TL, Team 8, Woongjin and STX disband after this season, they will be easily replaced with StarTale, IM, MVP and FXO, since all of those teams can compete with the KeSPA teams.

But yeah, I don't think EG-TL has a future in proleague especially with WCS and EG's new (possible) team league.
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