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Hitch-22
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada753 Posts
May 16 2013 17:24 GMT
#261
On May 16 2013 13:30 Dodgin wrote:
How much is EG paying you to start a big discussion about them Waxangel?

Best post of the day goes to! : D
"We all let our sword do the talking for us once in awhile I guess" - Bregor, the legendary critical striker and critical misser who triple crits 2 horses with 1 arrow but lands 3 1's in a row
Darthsanta13
Profile Joined July 2011
United States564 Posts
May 16 2013 17:29 GMT
#262
On May 17 2013 01:17 graNite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 01:05 AnomalySC2 wrote:
I think it would be cool if they picked up some unexpectated players. There are so many lesser known players out there with skills that could compete with the top dogs. Though it seems like Parting is the obvious choice.


You forgot that EG's way is to pick up the most popular players because they are an advertising company.
That is why they bought Stephano when he was most popular, same thing with Thorzain and HuK.
EG is there to hold Monster cans into webcams.

I mean marketability can be a factor in their pickups but saying it's the only thing that matters isn't really fair when they pick up players like Oz, Revival and Alive.
jubil
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2602 Posts
May 16 2013 17:33 GMT
#263
As has been mentioned, one big x-factor is how money is distributed throughout the entire EG organization - if money allocated for Starcraft always stays within that division. For example, while I don't think their World of Warcraft team is doing much these days, their Dota 2 squad is on an upswing, and just hired a new player in fact (the one he replaced is now a coach). So EG's Starcraft division might not reap the entire benefits of Idra and Stephano leaving.

Granted, they'll still have a lot of money and they'll be looking for marketable stars to replace those two in particular. From Kespa, Parting and Flash won't come cheap and they both seem very loyal to their team. Innovation, Soulkey, ZerO, or some CJ players might be cheaper (if the rumors of the sponsor company having problems are true) but I don't know how marketable they are, besides maybe Innovation just because he's so damn good. Besides, Kespa might make life difficult for EG if they want to "poach" a Kespa superstar, particularly one that's integral to his team.

For that reason I think eSF will be easier pickings. Probably not any Startale players since I think they're still wary from Parting and Squirtle leaving, although they have an absolutely gigantic roster and might need to make cuts. An IM,FXO, or MVP star could be possible, and in particular EGMVP, EGNestea, EGDRG would make a gigantic splash, and maybe the first two could be lured away since they're no longer competing in Korea. I don't think it would be a NSHS player (or the whole NSHS team) since they aren't really marketable at all.

Among foreigners today the pickings are slim for what they are looking for - EG already has most of the heavy hitters. In AM, there's really only Scarlett left, who will be taking a break soon. It's a little harder to evaluate EU for me since I'm American, but looking at who's left in WCS, it seems to me only TLO, Sase, and the Duran brothers have the star power EG wants. (Grubby does too but there's already an ugly history between him and EG)

Here are the three options I think are most likely:
A Prime star, or even the whole Prime team - popular players (what EG's looking for), weak team (maybe some players are discontent), team has uncertain financial situation (makes them cheaper to pick up).
A Chinese star (or two) - If EG wants to particularly expand their appeal in that direction, would also get publicity as first Western team to sign a Chinese player (I think?), might be appealing for one of the Chinese who is playing in WCS AM to have a teamhouse in the US
An underrated Korean - something like what Liquid did with HerO - either Coach Park or one of EG's Korean squad knows/is friends with a young Korean talent who is incredibly talented but needs more exposure/personal training to break out.

Could also of course be some combination of the above.
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jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
May 16 2013 17:34 GMT
#264
whatever happens, please please stay in proleague
age: 84 | location: california | sex: 잘함
SpurvL
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden345 Posts
May 16 2013 17:52 GMT
#265
A Starcraft League apparently:

Geoff Robinson ‏@EGiNcontroL 3m
http://sc2l.gg/ ^_-
Naniwa, ThorZaiN, SaSe, DeMusliM, White-RA... Where are my Zerg heroes?.. Stephano <3
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-16 17:55:34
May 16 2013 17:54 GMT
#266
On May 16 2013 18:51 herMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 13:50 Waxangel wrote:
On May 16 2013 13:49 Chairman Ray wrote:
Who says they're only gonna pick up a single player?

#EGRolster2013


hypothetically they could swallow flash's reported $250~300k contract if they don't renew Jaedong on top of stephano retiring, etc, but that rest of the team would be too expensive


I would be suprised to hear Flash's salary to be even in that ballpark.

On another note, EG should get a good talent scout like Nazgul and use that money to get talent from the deep player pool of Korea. The good thing about Koreans is that even relative unknowns can have lots of talent and they come cheap.


That was his salary in BW. ._.

On May 17 2013 00:41 Seeker wrote:
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On May 17 2013 00:07 Shellshock1122 wrote:
EG should buy Seeker from FXO for their new translator/terran. EGSeeKeRC

;;


Tell them they have to pay you one million dollars.

On May 16 2013 19:21 Fleshcut wrote:
I'm very bored by the korean players, no matter how good their results are and EG has always been the team with the most personality on it. ... Puma as the only korean with somewhat of a personality are the reason why I know EG so well. yadda yadda blah blah blah.


I almost stopped right there. Cannot.. tell.. if... serious. ._. You might want to change your logo because it sounds like you have EG syndrome. Terrible terrible diease. :V

On May 16 2013 21:50 CoR wrote:
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On May 16 2013 21:47 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
On May 16 2013 21:45 opterown wrote:
On May 16 2013 21:44 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
On May 16 2013 21:38 jdsowa wrote:
Is there really money to be made with a roster of Koreans?


If they pick up players with actual fucking personality like Parting there could be.

don't confuse marketability with personality


How is a player like Parting not marketable?

???

Also, the two things are very much inter connected, I'm a bit confused by your comment.


jaedong, flash, parting ... even BISU would be a nice pick for marketing, life ? jaeh i gues, for sure it would be leenock but alot even GREAT koreans have no marketing value


That would fit the bill of doing no work when there is already a lot of content on PartinG. There's all sorts of things you can use for ads when it comes to him. Marketing players really isn't that hard. It just takes time to churn that content and there are a lot of teams out there that just don't like taking the time to do such things. Then you have the guinea pigs who do it for you!

On May 17 2013 02:52 SpurvL wrote:
A Starcraft League apparently:

Geoff Robinson ‏@EGiNcontroL 3m
http://sc2l.gg/ ^_-


We really don't need more. UGH
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-16 18:09:34
May 16 2013 18:05 GMT
#267
On May 17 2013 02:19 thezanursic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 02:05 danl9rm wrote:
I always wondered what would happen if Flash/Jaedong were on the same team. I think they'd either push each other so hard in competition that no one could touch them, or one would lose his confidence and become only a shadow of his former self.

As cool as Life would be, I'd rather JD stay ace zerg. Get him a 'toss to practice against instead.

This isn't BW -.-

When JD and Flash somehow manage to play a 30-50 minute epic TvZ every other time they play. I'll admit that SC2 is as consistant in terms of skill as BW

Also a 75% winrate from Flash that he achived (2009 to 2012) and 70% over his entire will also help. About 80% if you exclude Bisu, Fantasy, Stork and JD himself.

Or it's not the game, but just that Flash and especially JD are not as good in SC2 (yet).
I know, it takes a little bit of effort to look past the almost religious pedestal that BW (and Flash) gets put on.
Get off my lawn, young punks
AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-16 18:14:16
May 16 2013 18:13 GMT
#268
On May 17 2013 03:05 ACrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 02:19 thezanursic wrote:
On May 17 2013 02:05 danl9rm wrote:
I always wondered what would happen if Flash/Jaedong were on the same team. I think they'd either push each other so hard in competition that no one could touch them, or one would lose his confidence and become only a shadow of his former self.

As cool as Life would be, I'd rather JD stay ace zerg. Get him a 'toss to practice against instead.

This isn't BW -.-

When JD and Flash somehow manage to play a 30-50 minute epic TvZ every other time they play. I'll admit that SC2 is as consistant in terms of skill as BW

Also a 75% winrate from Flash that he achived (2009 to 2012) and 70% over his entire will also help. About 80% if you exclude Bisu, Fantasy, Stork and JD himself.

Or it's not the game, but just that Flash and especially JD are not as good in SC2 (yet).
I know, it takes a little bit of effort to look past the almost religious pedestal that BW (and Flash) gets put on.


They swapped out alot of the mechanical skills required for BW and replaced it with the need to read your opponent and counter it. I know that you needed "starsense" in BW as well, but I think they upped that aspect of the game far more for SC2. They're different games. Besides, Flash and Jaedong both seem to be doing quite well in SC2 atm, I'm sure they will keep getting better as time goes on.
CygNus X-1
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada169 Posts
May 16 2013 18:18 GMT
#269
On May 17 2013 01:31 mikkmagro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 01:24 Beyond Magic wrote:
i wonder why EG hasn't already hired dimaga, the guy is a blast, one of the best zergs on EU.
guess they have kinda too many zergs.

Apparently Dimaga doesn't come cheap at all either.


Source?
Attention all Planets of the Solar Federation: We have assumed control.
Hitch-22
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada753 Posts
May 16 2013 18:18 GMT
#270
Doubt they'd ever get Flash on a point of principle... Flash and Jaedong are rivals almost inherently and I think Flash would just not go there because of this.
"We all let our sword do the talking for us once in awhile I guess" - Bregor, the legendary critical striker and critical misser who triple crits 2 horses with 1 arrow but lands 3 1's in a row
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
May 16 2013 18:19 GMT
#271
Did Puma retire?
Refer to my post.
Hitch-22
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada753 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-16 18:24:55
May 16 2013 18:24 GMT
#272
On May 17 2013 02:52 SpurvL wrote:
A Starcraft League apparently:

Geoff Robinson ‏@EGiNcontroL 3m
http://sc2l.gg/ ^_-


Coming soon
A new league comes

Worst... wording... ever

On May 17 2013 03:19 Zenbrez wrote:
Did Puma retire?


They released him awhile ago now
"We all let our sword do the talking for us once in awhile I guess" - Bregor, the legendary critical striker and critical misser who triple crits 2 horses with 1 arrow but lands 3 1's in a row
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-16 18:29:56
May 16 2013 18:27 GMT
#273
On May 17 2013 03:24 Hitch-22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 02:52 SpurvL wrote:
A Starcraft League apparently:

Geoff Robinson ‏@EGiNcontroL 3m
http://sc2l.gg/ ^_-


Coming soon
A new league comes

Worst... wording... ever

Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 03:19 Zenbrez wrote:
Did Puma retire?


They released him awhile ago now


Yes I know, you didn't answer my question. He got booted, then a word has never been spoken about his career.
Refer to my post.
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-16 18:36:08
May 16 2013 18:35 GMT
#274
On May 17 2013 02:19 thezanursic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 02:05 danl9rm wrote:
I always wondered what would happen if Flash/Jaedong were on the same team. I think they'd either push each other so hard in competition that no one could touch them, or one would lose his confidence and become only a shadow of his former self.

As cool as Life would be, I'd rather JD stay ace zerg. Get him a 'toss to practice against instead.

This isn't BW -.-

When JD and Flash somehow manage to play a 30-50 minute epic TvZ every other time they play. I'll admit that SC2 is as consistant in terms of skill as BW

+ Show Spoiler +


Also a 75% winrate from Flash that he achived (2009 to 2012) and 70% over his entire will also help. About 80% if you exclude Bisu, Fantasy, Stork and JD himself.


While I, along with everyone else, am overjoyed at every new instance of "This isn't BW," I fail to grasp the reason it was uttered here. But, thanks.
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
Lokerek
Profile Joined December 2011
United States441 Posts
May 16 2013 18:37 GMT
#275
On May 16 2013 17:57 blade55555 wrote:
They are going to finally start adding in completely new players and soon we shall see players you have never heard of join EG as up and comers!


[EG] BladeRC
rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
May 16 2013 18:42 GMT
#276
I don't think there will be another Proleague season. Domestic interest just isn't there.
MagnuMizer
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Denmark384 Posts
May 16 2013 18:45 GMT
#277
On May 17 2013 01:23 Nekovivie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 01:00 MagnuMizer wrote:
I find it weird to read a post from a Teamliquid reporter on EG's internal affairs...

Besides that, this post is entirely speculative, and doesn't make for a good discussion. I can speculate plenty of players to be on EG, which is more likely neither of us have any idea and we will just have to wait and see..

Also, it isn't news that Kespa contracts end in august - we knew that already. And just because the time seems to allign nicely with EG's supposedly larger budget (I'm sure you have no clue about EG's actual budget plans), it is more likely for a korean team to pick up the Kespa players, or that they might get their contracts renewed/extended.

It is indeed interesting, and i'm excited to find out. But i can't find sense in creating a thread about this - especially when the thread is made by someone from Teamliquid staff


You must not read many articles about...anything at all.


I've read many, some that are more thread worthy than this still being closed.
But whatever, no need to discuss that, that would be OT nvm my post...
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-16 18:47:51
May 16 2013 18:46 GMT
#278
On May 17 2013 03:27 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 03:24 Hitch-22 wrote:
On May 17 2013 02:52 SpurvL wrote:
A Starcraft League apparently:

Geoff Robinson ‏@EGiNcontroL 3m
http://sc2l.gg/ ^_-


Coming soon
A new league comes

Worst... wording... ever

On May 17 2013 03:19 Zenbrez wrote:
Did Puma retire?


They released him awhile ago now


Yes I know, you didn't answer my question. He got booted, then a word has never been spoken about his career.

We didn't hear anything from him since then, he didn't get picked up yet. So, this could mean that he either is a) in negotiations and nothing has been finalized yet, b) he is looking for a team, but no team is interested in him right now or c) he is retired and didn't announce it (often, Koreans who retire just disappear and don't make a statement about it).

My personal guess would be b), leading to c) in a few months.
Get off my lawn, young punks
Phantom_Sky
Profile Joined August 2010
Hong Kong512 Posts
May 16 2013 18:47 GMT
#279
maybe the just re-signed Idra

seriously, Flash ?
xuanzue
Profile Joined October 2010
Colombia1747 Posts
May 16 2013 18:57 GMT
#280
the insider guy of 4chan said than life will receive 250k / year, by redbull, and startale will become redbull ST.

I see life in 5 koreans teams before than EG.
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