Evil Geniuses Releases Greg "IdrA" Fields - Page 163

.Wraath

United States262 Posts

May 10 2013 17:24 GMT

#3241

Lol did someone seriously say Demu is "Really fking good" ??!?

He just got hit chit tossed by ByuN 15-0+ a couple days ago?

Idra will find a new team, maybe this will light a fire under his ass.

Ridgedawg

United States2 Posts

May 10 2013 17:25 GMT

#3242

I'm curious, was he ever reprimanded / suspended / etc before this for his behavior?

dFallDeMoN

United Kingdom25 Posts

May 10 2013 17:25 GMT

#3243

On May 11 2013 02:24 .Wraath wrote:
Lol did someone seriously say Demu is "Really fking good" ??!?

He just got hit chit tossed by ByuN 15-0+ a couple days ago?

Idra will find a new team, maybe this will light a fire under his ass.

you obviously dont know what your talking about, byun is one of the best terrans in the world, getting his ass wooped by byun 15-0 isnt really a dissapointment, aslong as he learns from it thats all that matters, demu is one of the best foreigners atm for sure!

ownyah

146 Posts

May 10 2013 17:26 GMT

#3244

Yea and the suppy bandwagon lol, people are saying 1# foreigner and shit.. rofl calm down guys he won 2 sets
P.S Demuslim hasn't really won anything, ~~like~~ ever.

Defacer

Canada5052 Posts

May 10 2013 17:29 GMT

#3245

On May 10 2013 22:24 Sokrates wrote:

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On May 10 2013 22:16 Hattori_Hanzo wrote:

On May 10 2013 22:08 Sokrates wrote:

On May 10 2013 21:24 Zarahtra wrote:

On May 10 2013 21:18 ALPINA wrote:

On May 10 2013 21:15 HornyHerring wrote:

On May 10 2013 21:13 ALPINA wrote:
I didn't follow SC2 scene at all recently. So is it because he left midgame in some recent tournament? What's the reason he left anyone please??

There's the picture like 10 times on each page of this thread, make an effort.

You mean where he said "it just so happens i get paid to treat you like it. it's fucking awesome."?

I thought they released him because he left from some tournament midgame?

He went 4 base before lair on Daybreak and got himself into a huge lead against Polt. Polt didn't play particularly well at the start(not expecting such insane greed I suppose) as he meet more army than he expected. Eventually this lead into idra getting ultras, bls, infestors, corruptors.

Polt kept sniping the 12 oclock(6th base). Idra pushed to Polts 4th(he had a 5th too, I think it was not scouted at all), but with a PF and insane patienience and positioning Polt just waited for idra to make a move(while sniping the 6th and getting viking/raven count up to counter idras air).

Polt had essentially stabalised and was in very good position, but idra had 3k/3k banked and had better army supply(atleast he did a bit earlier). Idra backed off, Polt sniped his 5th and idra quit maxed out with 3k/3k after playing a terrible lategame.

Edit: I mean this game probably effected their decision heavily, but I think it was rather the post and idra immaturity as of late. I mean his argument with Demuslim probably doesn't help, as atm I'd say Demu is probably EGs best player(atleast if Stephano doesn't show his skill once more).

Lets face it : He was dead in the water. Polt kept deniing his expansions, had the same amount of expansions, had the better armycomposition and already transitionied to skyterran. All idra would be doing if polt doesnt fuck up is running around over the map with a fairly immobile army clearing out drops before he would be smashed in a desperate attempt on polts middle base. The bad thing about this is, that he never went for a final engagment because if polt fucks up big time (just like heart in the suppy game) he still might have had a shot. BUt that isnt idras mindset, idra doesnt expect polt to fuck up and that is why he left. Idra has the terrible mindset (and it is not hard to get that with zerg) that once he is behind he cant catch up and he doesnt realize that his opponents are also human. Just like suppy won against heart, in 999games out of 1000 heart wins this. But yet suppy at least TRIED.

The point a lot of people are missing is that idra wasnt AHEAD or EVEN, he also wasnt behind a LITTLE, he was incredibly behind. Being 200/200 on ultra broodlord means shit if you keep getting your bases denied whereas the terran is on 5+ bases with the better composition/position and the nearly completed skyterran transition. He missed his opportunty to cursh polts middle base when he had the lead. He didnt do it and then polt just played his hand well.

That's my point!

He could have just suicided his immobile BL/ultra/infestor army and either go:
1) an extremely mobile muta/ling/bling composition to combat the slow skyterran unit comp, sniping production/tech, or
2) a pressure style mass Swarm Host/viper/hydra with spine forest composition which is very hard for raven based skyterran composition to break;

he already HAD ENOUGH BANK TO SWITCH to either one!

Edit: formatting.

No, not at this stage of the game, polt was already set up and was ahead on bases, there was no way idra would have gotten the time/money to build up a massive spinecrawler forest and transition to catzzerg. ONly works when you prepare it really early and when you trade off that ultra broodlord army decently (which is unlikely). Idra wouldnt have gotten a decent trade with polt anymore, let alone the fact that polt had more income and killed 2 expansions of idra.

Mobile army doesnt cut it against a terran with a shitload of orbitals, whould should he kill? Some workers? Polt would thank him for that.

But i agree, he should have at least give it a shot, mb if polt fucks up and he gets an unexpected decent trade he is still in the game. But idras mindset doesnt allow it.

Whether or not he has a realistic shot at winning is not the issue. The issue is that he doesn't care enough about his fans, his teammates, MLG or the game itself to even let it play out.

Imagine paying to watch a baseball game, and your home team is down 5-0 after 7 innings. So instead of playing the last two innings and at least pretending to care, they refuse to come onto the field because baseball is fucking imba anyway or some bullshit. Basically ripping off the customer because they're too lazy/angry/bitter too care.

IdrA was getting paid more than enough to at least pretend to give a shit. He couldn't even do that.

Mohdoo

United States15743 Posts

May 10 2013 17:30 GMT

#3246

On May 11 2013 02:25 dFallDeMoN wrote:

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You'd rank Demuslim over Naniwa, Grubby, Stephano, Sen, Sortof or TLo right now? Top 10 maybe, but not top 3 at all.

.Wraath

United States262 Posts

May 10 2013 17:31 GMT

#3247

On May 11 2013 02:25 dFallDeMoN wrote:

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Obviously I am not blinded by homerism or a huge fanboy unlike you.

Yonnua

United Kingdom2331 Posts

May 10 2013 17:31 GMT

#3248

He then learned Byun's build and used it to smack Polt around a ton the next day. Demuslim's pretty decent.

wUndertUnge

United States1125 Posts

May 10 2013 17:32 GMT

#3249

On May 11 2013 01:24 Evangelist wrote:

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Absolutely. As such he has gotten exactly what he deserves. I don't really care too much about this but it is something of a pleasure to see a well known public arsehole get a comeuppance. What I find inexplicable is the number of people defending him.

In turn, the community gets to treat him how they like, detractors and fans alike. Also in turn, EG as his employer gets to treat him how they like within bounds of the law. So yes, you're right. Don't like him? Don't watch him. Don't like how he represents your team that feeds him? Fire him.

Dazed.

Canada3301 Posts

May 10 2013 17:33 GMT

#3250

What did he do exactly? I havent been following the scene too closely and I dont want to troll throguh 163 pages.

dFallDeMoN

United Kingdom25 Posts

May 10 2013 17:33 GMT

#3251

On May 11 2013 02:31 .Wraath wrote:

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Obviously I am not blinded by homerism or a huge fanboy unlike you.

or maybe you dont know what your talking about

Beau_Monde

10 Posts

May 10 2013 17:33 GMT

#3252

I honestly can't see IdrA on any other team. Love him or hate him the Starcraft scene will not be the same without him. despite the thing's he has said and done I hope this isn't the end for IdrA.

dFallDeMoN

United Kingdom25 Posts

May 10 2013 17:34 GMT

#3253

On May 11 2013 02:30 Mohdoo wrote:

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You'd rank Demuslim over Naniwa, Grubby, Stephano, Sen, Sortof or TLo right now? Top 10 maybe, but not top 3 at all.

Id rate him higher than everyone in that list except naniwa, and him and grubby are on a similar level imo, demuslim beats stephano alot of times now when they meet

IshinShishi

Japan6156 Posts

May 10 2013 17:35 GMT

#3254

demuslim is a good and respectful player that works hard to improve himself and meanwhile betters the community, I'm sure he will play the leading role just fine.

JJH777

United States4420 Posts

May 10 2013 17:36 GMT

#3255

On May 11 2013 02:26 ownyah wrote:

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Yea and the suppy bandwagon lol, people are saying 1# foreigner and shit.. rofl calm down guys he won 2 sets
P.S Demuslim hasn't really won anything, ~~like~~ ever.

He's won 2 sets in WCS. He was the best performing NA player for 2/4 MLGs last year. He was the second best performing foreigner at the WCS finals. Suppy has been really underrated for a while.

Gamegene

United States8308 Posts

May 10 2013 17:37 GMT

#3256

lol. Suppy and DeMusliM have shown way better performance and skill, and most importantly potential than IdrA for months now.

Inimic

Canada153 Posts

May 10 2013 17:39 GMT

#3257

Idra is so rude to people.

As for EG... I think this will hurt their publicity a bit, since he's so famous. The better explanation for cutting him is probably that they want to save money from sponsoring a guy who won't win tournaments- like how they cut Puma, except they have a good excuse this time.

dFallDeMoN

United Kingdom25 Posts

May 10 2013 17:40 GMT

#3258

On May 11 2013 02:37 Gamegene wrote:
lol. Suppy and DeMusliM have shown way better performance and skill, and most importantly potential than IdrA for months now.

couldnt agree more!

Kerence

Sweden1817 Posts

May 10 2013 17:41 GMT

#3259

I certainly didn't see this coming. I though Idra was never going to get released due to his behavior considering how much he's gotten away with during the years. Looks like he had the same idea.
I think it's a good move, you can't do whatever you want all the time and expect to get away with it, I assume the amount of bad PR finally surpassed the amount of good PR being generated by having him on the team.
I wonder if he tries to find another team or if he retires from SC now, tbh he doesn't even seem to enjoy the game most of the time.