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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37043 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-01 09:18:14
April 30 2013 05:40 GMT
#1
Hey TL!

Recently, because of finals exams, I have been unable to keep up with my usual flow of releasing interviews on a daily basis
However, I only have one final exam left on Wednesday, so expect interviews to start popping up like popcorn in just a bit
The reason I created this thread is because I have this project that I would like to try out and I wanted to see all your feedback and opinions.

For the longest time now, I have been pondering, and pondering, and pondering, about how I can give SC2 interviews more exposure. In my opinion, because SC2 General is such a thriving section on TL with so many threads, it is almost impossible for interviews to constantly stay in the top 6 spots for SC2 General. I also think this is more true if I have to release about 8 - 10 separate threads a week.

So here is the solution I came up with: I am going to create only two threads per week, one for all SPL interviews, and one for all WCS/GSTL interviews. This idea came from juicyjames' "This Week in StarCraft 2" threads. I really like the idea of having everything neatly organized and placed into one thread per week. That way, it is just easier for people on TL to find the thread and locate all the interviews for that week. My only concern is that "This Week in StarCraft 2" threads already have a section dedicated just for interviews, so implicating this project could be a bit redundant.

None the less, I think this could end up working out really well. Here is an example of what the threads would look like:



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WCS Interviews for this Week:

  • 2013 WCS Korea Season 1 Code S Ro16 Group C Winners' Interview
  • 2013 WCS Korea Season 1 Code S Ro16 Group B Winners' Interview
  • 2013 WCS Korea Season 1 Challenger League Round 1 Winners' Interview
  • 2013 GSTL Season 1 Pennant Race Week 7 Match 1 Winner Interview
  • 2013 GSTL Season 1 Pennant Race Week 7 Match 2 Winner Interview

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SPL Interviews for this Week:

  • 2012-2013 SPL Season 1 Round 4 STX SouL vs CJ Entus Winner Interview
  • 2012-2013 SPL Season 1 Round 4 Woongjin Stars vs SK Telecom T1 Winner Interview
  • 2012-2013 SPL Season 1 Round 4 Samsung KHAN vs 8th Team Winner Interview
  • 2012-2013 SPL Season 1 Round 4 STX SouL vs Woongjin Stars Winner Interview

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POLL TIME!!!
Poll: What do you think of this idea?

I like it (65)
 
90%

I don't like it (4)
 
6%

I have a better idea (specify in thread) (3)
 
4%

72 total votes

Your vote: What do you think of this idea?

(Vote): I like it
(Vote): I don't like it
(Vote): I have a better idea (specify in thread)





One final thing I would like to talk about:
Methods to locating SC2 interviews!

  • Go to the TL.net search bar and type in [Interview] and then search. You will find the most recent interviews at the top
  • Go to the SC2 Interviews/Translation Archive
  • Go to the liquipedia page for that player and look at the section titled "Interviews" http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/PartinG#Interviews
  • Go to the liquipedia page for that specific tournament and find this icon: [image loading] If you click on that icon, it will take you to the interview for that group's match winners



That's it! GL HF GG!

-Seeker



A very good post explaining why this idea could not end up working:
On May 01 2013 18:02 worosei wrote:
Not to be a party pooper, but I voted "don't like it"

I like the having an organised thread however I have a few concerns. Firstly I want to state how much I enjoy and appreciate your dedication to interviews Seeker. I've been compulsively checking the SC2 General thread to see if an interview has gone up for the past weeks and being despairing that you've disappeared!

These are my concerns with the joint thread:

1) Dilution of discussion

One thing that was nice about the individual interview threads was that people could comment on the interviews in the thread only. So when Parting declares his awesomeness, it's fun hearing discussions kept together. A thread of weekly interviews may cause discussions of an individual's responses as it has be 'shared' now with other responses. As new interviews come up in the week, it's harder to comment on the interviews that have happened earlier in the week.

2) Knowing when new interviews come out
This is more a 'lazy' person comment, and the system at the moment is still not exactly the best, however it is easier at the moment to see interviews for the latest game because the title of the thread will mention it. I know when group B or C interviews are out because the title says so. With a joined system, one will have to look into the thread itself.

I am also unsure how TL deals with 'edits' in terms of 'bumping' threads back up into relevance. If people dont 'post' comments for a new interview, then the thread will be buried with a lot of other threads. That being said, most interview threads aren't hugely discussed anyway.

3) Other laziness
The third point is the scrolling! ... ok spoiler tags I guess is good, but otherwise it can be a lot of scrolling to find the relevant game.

The other issue is the potential for spoilers? If things aren't spoilered properly then spoiling results of a game can occur - normally it's fine as u dont have to click on the thread. but if you want to read an interview of a game you have already watched and there are other pending games, it wouldn't be so good to have the results potentially spoilered.

Im also not a fan of a million spoiler tags everywhere too.


Alternatives/Suggestions?

I dont really have much... those concerns being stated, I dont know if the current system is all that good too. The interviews are kinda scattered, and they get hidden all too quickly. I would like to see all these translation work that people put so much effort into rewarded more as it really helps bring the community closer to the players (especially korean ones).

An option could be to have one big thread, and then whenever you translate a new interview, to post a 'dummy' thread to re-direct to your big thread. That will help alert people to the new interview as well as keeping things more 'together', and potentially act as a 'discussion' ground for individual interviews/game series.

I am unsure what TL posting rules for that is, but I think there should be exceptions for things like interviews which are much more directly related to tournaments/discussions. Extra pictures/cheerfuls could potentially be placed in these dummy threads? ... provided that Bisu is in the pictures of course...
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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schaf
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1326 Posts
April 30 2013 05:44 GMT
#2
nice idea! Thank you for all the work you out in this

I like the idea because the SC2 forum gets more and more flooded with threads and it gets more dofficult to find relevant information so any attempt at collecting related stuff (like interviews) is a good thing!
Axiom wins more than it loses. Most viewers don't. - <3 TB
T.O.P
Profile Joined December 2012
469 Posts
April 30 2013 05:48 GMT
#3
Thank you Seeker!
I'm not the real T.O.P just a fan!
nobodywonder
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States848 Posts
April 30 2013 05:49 GMT
#4
props Seeker! Thanks so much
i want nobody nobody but you! *clap* *clap*- wonder girls
Warpath
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1242 Posts
April 30 2013 05:53 GMT
#5
I like it, should keep everything cleaner
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37043 Posts
April 30 2013 07:48 GMT
#6
Thanks for the feedback guys
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
AyaaLa
Profile Joined February 2012
Spain629 Posts
April 30 2013 07:52 GMT
#7
Nice Seeker, thank you !
i balance whine all the time.
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
April 30 2013 07:53 GMT
#8
I like it, Thanks Seeker!
Refer to my post.
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
April 30 2013 08:12 GMT
#9
I like it. Should make it easier to find these interviews. If it helps in your work with translating, I'm all for it.
Flash | Mvp
therabit
Profile Joined August 2011
795 Posts
April 30 2013 08:22 GMT
#10
it's a good idea. Sometimes i have to dig through a few pages to find the interview, putting them all in 1 place would increase visibility.

Can't wait for the recent interviews to pop up, thanks seeker!
a_flayer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands2826 Posts
April 30 2013 08:25 GMT
#11
I have a better idea, you should PM me each interview personally so I don't have to look for it.
When you came along so righteous with a new national hate, so convincing is the ardor of war and of men, it's harder to breathe than to believe you're a friend. The wars at home, the wars abroad, all soaked in blood and lies and fraud.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37043 Posts
April 30 2013 09:05 GMT
#12
On April 30 2013 17:25 a_flayer wrote:
I have a better idea, you should PM me each interview personally so I don't have to look for it.

Oo;; That's a lot of work on my part though :/
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
netherDrake
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Singapore1831 Posts
April 30 2013 09:14 GMT
#13
This is a great idea, thanks for the work!
SC2 player for Flash eSports. twitch.tv/nether_drake, https://twitter.com/bryan_sum, http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bryan-Drake-Sum/468389706519567
GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-30 14:13:38
April 30 2013 14:01 GMT
#14
Seeker is the best!~

You should definitely do any CJ interviews first though

Otherwise you're only second best!!!
Jo Byung Se #1 fan | CJ_Rush(reborn) fan | Liquid'Jinro(ret) fan | Liquid'Taeja fan | oGsTheSuperNada fan | Iris[gm](ret) fan |
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37043 Posts
May 01 2013 01:48 GMT
#15
Ty for the great feedback so far guys
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-01 07:25:10
May 01 2013 07:24 GMT
#16
Yeah I think this would be good. It'll be easier to keep track of all the interviews instead of having a bunch of 2 page threads and not remembering exactly which match you were looking for.

would it be posted at the end of the week or would you post it at the beginning with the first interview and just keep updating it? I didnt see anything about that in the OP but I might have missed it.
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37043 Posts
May 01 2013 08:25 GMT
#17
On May 01 2013 16:24 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Yeah I think this would be good. It'll be easier to keep track of all the interviews instead of having a bunch of 2 page threads and not remembering exactly which match you were looking for.

would it be posted at the end of the week or would you post it at the beginning with the first interview and just keep updating it? I didnt see anything about that in the OP but I might have missed it.

I'll be posting them at the beginning of the week and keep updating as the week progresses. I think that's the best way.
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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a_flayer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands2826 Posts
May 01 2013 08:30 GMT
#18
On April 30 2013 18:05 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 17:25 a_flayer wrote:
I have a better idea, you should PM me each interview personally so I don't have to look for it.

Oo;; That's a lot of work on my part though :/


Well, I will allow you to not type them all separately, you can copy/paste them from your post into your PM to me instead (although I would prefer a freshly typed translation, of course).

It would be worth it for me, I think.
When you came along so righteous with a new national hate, so convincing is the ardor of war and of men, it's harder to breathe than to believe you're a friend. The wars at home, the wars abroad, all soaked in blood and lies and fraud.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 01 2013 08:45 GMT
#19
On May 01 2013 17:25 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 16:24 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Yeah I think this would be good. It'll be easier to keep track of all the interviews instead of having a bunch of 2 page threads and not remembering exactly which match you were looking for.

would it be posted at the end of the week or would you post it at the beginning with the first interview and just keep updating it? I didnt see anything about that in the OP but I might have missed it.

I'll be posting them at the beginning of the week and keep updating as the week progresses. I think that's the best way.

Yeah that's what I was thinking, too. Just wanted to see what your plan was.
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ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
May 01 2013 08:47 GMT
#20
Sounds like a good idea. Anything to give the interviews more exposure
Gl in your exams!
Get off my lawn, young punks
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
May 01 2013 08:51 GMT
#21
I love it, thanks!
worosei
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia198 Posts
May 01 2013 09:02 GMT
#22
Not to be a party pooper, but I voted "don't like it"

I like the having an organised thread however I have a few concerns. Firstly I want to state how much I enjoy and appreciate your dedication to interviews Seeker. I've been compulsively checking the SC2 General thread to see if an interview has gone up for the past weeks and being despairing that you've disappeared!

These are my concerns with the joint thread:

1) Dilution of discussion

One thing that was nice about the individual interview threads was that people could comment on the interviews in the thread only. So when Parting declares his awesomeness, it's fun hearing discussions kept together. A thread of weekly interviews may cause discussions of an individual's responses as it has be 'shared' now with other responses. As new interviews come up in the week, it's harder to comment on the interviews that have happened earlier in the week.

2) Knowing when new interviews come out
This is more a 'lazy' person comment, and the system at the moment is still not exactly the best, however it is easier at the moment to see interviews for the latest game because the title of the thread will mention it. I know when group B or C interviews are out because the title says so. With a joined system, one will have to look into the thread itself.

I am also unsure how TL deals with 'edits' in terms of 'bumping' threads back up into relevance. If people dont 'post' comments for a new interview, then the thread will be buried with a lot of other threads. That being said, most interview threads aren't hugely discussed anyway.

3) Other laziness
The third point is the scrolling! ... ok spoiler tags I guess is good, but otherwise it can be a lot of scrolling to find the relevant game.

The other issue is the potential for spoilers? If things aren't spoilered properly then spoiling results of a game can occur - normally it's fine as u dont have to click on the thread. but if you want to read an interview of a game you have already watched and there are other pending games, it wouldn't be so good to have the results potentially spoilered.

Im also not a fan of a million spoiler tags everywhere too.


Alternatives/Suggestions?

I dont really have much... those concerns being stated, I dont know if the current system is all that good too. The interviews are kinda scattered, and they get hidden all too quickly. I would like to see all these translation work that people put so much effort into rewarded more as it really helps bring the community closer to the players (especially korean ones).

An option could be to have one big thread, and then whenever you translate a new interview, to post a 'dummy' thread to re-direct to your big thread. That will help alert people to the new interview as well as keeping things more 'together', and potentially act as a 'discussion' ground for individual interviews/game series.

I am unsure what TL posting rules for that is, but I think there should be exceptions for things like interviews which are much more directly related to tournaments/discussions. Extra pictures/cheerfuls could potentially be placed in these dummy threads? ... provided that Bisu is in the pictures of course...
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
May 01 2013 12:58 GMT
#23
Rain and Best look so gay on this photo o_O
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
May 01 2013 20:28 GMT
#24
I knew i was missing something D:

Great idea rekees.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
May 01 2013 20:28 GMT
#25
Cool stuff seeker <3
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 03 2013 18:36 GMT
#26
When can we expect the first post? I'm itching to read Mvp's WCS interview.
MisterTea
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1047 Posts
May 03 2013 18:41 GMT
#27
they should be sticked in general section each week so they are very easy to find and read.
keep up the good work
Noobity
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States871 Posts
May 03 2013 18:53 GMT
#28
While I like it a lot, I think that it would be much easier to bring notice to the interviews and leave them available by convincing the TL.net staff to create a subforum for that specifically. Say for instance, completely separate from any sc2, dota, etc. sections, just an "Interview" section. Using something like "[dota]" or "[sc2]" tags in front of the thread would allow fans to find what they're looking for, and with only threads being posted by specific individuals allowed by the staff you'd keep a pretty simple constant exposure to those translations. It would also provide a place where other fans of all games can provide their own translations to interviews in other languages if they'd like.

Though the current idea is much easier, and would be generally fine. Still greatly appreciate the translations you guys are throwing our way, it's great to have that information.
My name is Mike, and statistically, yours is not.
BAAEEMM
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany412 Posts
May 03 2013 19:02 GMT
#29
I would also be very much in favor of a small "Interviews" subforum (like the Replays section that still exists on the right). That would be the optimal solution I would say. No burrowing in the depths of SC2 General and easy overview of new interviews.

Make it happen admins!
Jmanthedragonguy
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada1202 Posts
May 03 2013 19:07 GMT
#30
Awesome! For a second I thought you disappeared Seeker. Missed your translations so much T.T
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37043 Posts
May 03 2013 23:57 GMT
#31
On May 04 2013 03:53 Noobity wrote:
While I like it a lot, I think that it would be much easier to bring notice to the interviews and leave them available by convincing the TL.net staff to create a subforum for that specifically. Say for instance, completely separate from any sc2, dota, etc. sections, just an "Interview" section. Using something like "[dota]" or "[sc2]" tags in front of the thread would allow fans to find what they're looking for, and with only threads being posted by specific individuals allowed by the staff you'd keep a pretty simple constant exposure to those translations. It would also provide a place where other fans of all games can provide their own translations to interviews in other languages if they'd like.

Though the current idea is much easier, and would be generally fine. Still greatly appreciate the translations you guys are throwing our way, it's great to have that information.

I actually spoke to Plexa about doing something like this before. He stated that they were not going to do that unless they felt that it was absolutely necessary.
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Moridin
Profile Joined December 2009
Bulgaria165 Posts
May 13 2013 12:40 GMT
#32
Anyone knows a website where I can find the recent SPL(not only) interviews translated? I see here and there non Koreans quoting what they read so maybe I'm the only one that can't find it
Seeker please pass those fucking exams and let us enjoy your great translations!
It's about time.
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