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Vindexus
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada76 Posts
April 24 2013 18:35 GMT
#221
Will there be a tip jar like the SHOUTcraft Invitationals?

I was just rereading the post mortem from #4 the other day and it was really interesting.
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NDIEKING
Profile Joined March 2013
4 Posts
April 24 2013 18:43 GMT
#222
poor KawaiiRice =( there still time.
AwesomeFossum
Profile Joined February 2013
United States312 Posts
April 24 2013 18:48 GMT
#223
Yes! This is great news for the Americas scene. I like the residency rule as well. Thanks TB!
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AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 18:55:35
April 24 2013 18:51 GMT
#224
On April 25 2013 03:15 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 02:57 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
On April 25 2013 02:14 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On April 25 2013 01:54 Let it Raine wrote:
Announce this earlier so people who choose not to ladder on a bad server can participate


I don't think we want you in our event with that attitude anyway.


What issue do you take with his attitude, if you don't mind me asking? Is it the fact that he's looking a gift horse in the mouth?


You really don't see an issue with his attitude? No issue with him calling it a bad ladder? Whether that statement is true or not, it's best not to start off insulting the ladder you're supposed to play on to qualify.


I don't take an issue with it because he's right.
I'm not sure how it compares to the EU ladder, but the Korean ladder is flat out better. As a result, some top NA players elect to practice on the KR ladder. An earlier announcement would allow those practicing on the KR ladder to switch to the NA ladder and hopefully perform well enough to qualify for the tournament. This would be good for the viewers and the NA ladder.

If the tone of his post is the issue, then I may not be the best person to make a judgement call in that regard. My lack of tact is pretty (in)famous among my friends.

On April 25 2013 03:35 Vindexus wrote:
Will there be a tip jar like the SHOUTcraft Invitationals?

I was just rereading the post mortem from #4 the other day and it was really interesting.


There will be a tip jar. It was part of the announcement.
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yousaba
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden55 Posts
April 24 2013 19:29 GMT
#225
On April 24 2013 18:30 LeeDawg wrote:
FINALLY

an all AM tournament to showcase the talent the americas have to offer.


while i like the fact there's an all AM tourny now, calling it a chance to showcase the talent of americans is a bit silly, WCS NA offers that too, people just complain that they arent talented enough to compete in it.
Fishriot
Profile Joined May 2010
United States621 Posts
April 24 2013 19:31 GMT
#226
So sick! Really awesome of Genna and TB to do this.
Nathanias
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States290 Posts
April 24 2013 19:42 GMT
#227
Wow this looks absolutely amazing. If there's anything I can do to help, don't hesitate to ask :D
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PardonYou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1360 Posts
April 24 2013 19:53 GMT
#228
Sounds awesome to me. Really nice to see Genna--and TB--do this for the scene.
Yunarc
Profile Joined March 2011
United States314 Posts
April 24 2013 19:57 GMT
#229
Hope this goes well so that this tournament can be held multiple times and grow larger to help out the NA scene.

Only thing I would like changed is a qualifier for a few spots, but I understand why tb and Genna would not even want to try doing one with the MLG mess
Jinky
Profile Joined January 2011
United States64 Posts
April 24 2013 20:01 GMT
#230
Cool! I like this. Hope it sticks and grows.
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
April 24 2013 20:26 GMT
#231
On April 25 2013 04:29 yousaba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 18:30 LeeDawg wrote:
FINALLY

an all AM tournament to showcase the talent the americas have to offer.


while i like the fact there's an all AM tourny now, calling it a chance to showcase the talent of americans is a bit silly, WCS NA offers that too, people just complain that they arent talented enough to compete in it.


Well unless you want an all-Korean SC2 scene in the next couple of years, you'd best support the notion that sports competition is supposed to be done at multiple level, just like very other sport on the planet.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Eventine
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States307 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 20:38:04
April 24 2013 20:36 GMT
#232
On April 25 2013 04:29 yousaba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 18:30 LeeDawg wrote:
FINALLY

an all AM tournament to showcase the talent the americas have to offer.


while i like the fact there's an all AM tourny now, calling it a chance to showcase the talent of americans is a bit silly, WCS NA offers that too, people just complain that they arent talented enough to compete in it.


How does WCS NA offer that when many of the competitors are not NA or SA?
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 24 2013 20:39 GMT
#233
On April 25 2013 05:26 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 04:29 yousaba wrote:
On April 24 2013 18:30 LeeDawg wrote:
FINALLY

an all AM tournament to showcase the talent the americas have to offer.


while i like the fact there's an all AM tourny now, calling it a chance to showcase the talent of americans is a bit silly, WCS NA offers that too, people just complain that they arent talented enough to compete in it.


Well unless you want an all-Korean SC2 scene in the next couple of years, you'd best support the notion that sports competition is supposed to be done at multiple level, just like very other sport on the planet.


But the TL community only understands skill levels in SC2 based on Code S level Korean players and those able to beat them. The idea that events can be run that are not based around these levels of skill simply cannot be processed by many. How can someone even us the word “talent” if it isn't in relation to a GSL or Kespa player? You are asking people to fundamentally alter their basic understanding of how SC2 works.
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itsjustatank
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Hong Kong9176 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 20:45:01
April 24 2013 20:43 GMT
#234
what are the specifics on how proof of residency is established in tournament rules? what legal documents should be submitted? will utility bills work? financial statements? police records? will these be made public to provide transparency and proof that the participants are 100% homegrown american?

i do appreciate that it is being called what it is though: protectionism.
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TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
April 24 2013 21:18 GMT
#235
On April 25 2013 05:43 itsjustatank wrote:
what are the specifics on how proof of residency is established in tournament rules? what legal documents should be submitted? will utility bills work? financial statements? police records? will these be made public to provide transparency and proof that the participants are 100% homegrown american?

i do appreciate that it is being called what it is though: protectionism.


Lol at your ridiculous over-reaction. Gee, maybe your social security card or drivers license? Not too tricky to prove who you actually are.

They let you write for this site? God.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
CPTBadAss
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States594 Posts
April 24 2013 21:20 GMT
#236
Illusion for Best American Terran ^__^
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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
April 24 2013 21:24 GMT
#237
Dunno whether I like taking the ladder rank that serious. Would've rather appreciated a tournament involving all GM players (alot of whom are smurfs and/or do not live in America, so shouldn't have been that many players).

Anyways, if this is broadcasted during NA prime time - which makes the most sense - then I probably won't be able to catch it, but I'll definitely follow the results diligently.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10146 Posts
April 24 2013 21:29 GMT
#238
Both of you are pretty badass.
teide
Profile Joined July 2011
Spain178 Posts
April 24 2013 21:30 GMT
#239
wow so awesome, thanks TB.

I watch every gsl but I also love some foreigners only tournaments, specially in NA. I'll be waiting for this
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dvorakftw
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
681 Posts
April 24 2013 21:39 GMT
#240
On April 25 2013 06:18 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 05:43 itsjustatank wrote:
what are the specifics on how proof of residency is established in tournament rules? what legal documents should be submitted? will utility bills work? financial statements? police records? will these be made public to provide transparency and proof that the participants are 100% homegrown american?

i do appreciate that it is being called what it is though: protectionism.


Lol at your ridiculous over-reaction. Gee, maybe your social security card or drivers license? Not too tricky to prove who you actually are.

I'm not worried about proof of residency or even hacking/cheating really but I am curious if anything will be required to establish absolute proof - like an over-the-player-shoulder webcam setup. I could guess a few downsides but there could also be upsides like hearing comments/reactions from the player.
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