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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
April 24 2013 15:07 GMT
#401
Bringing Demuslim onto the show would be awesome!
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3692 Posts
April 24 2013 15:07 GMT
#402
Please try to get tasteless in, I have been wanting to see him on a esports/starcraft talk show for like forever now.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
April 24 2013 15:16 GMT
#403
It's the same exact thing as SOTG with the same exact hosts LOL. These 2 facts create a huge elephant in the room w/r/t JP. Im interested to hear the story.

If Artosis makes a show it really shouldnt just be an identical copycat of SOTG lol.
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
April 24 2013 15:21 GMT
#404
On April 25 2013 00:16 Doodsmack wrote:
It's the same exact thing as SOTG with the same exact hosts LOL. These 2 facts create a huge elephant in the room w/r/t JP. Im interested to hear the story.

If Artosis makes a show it really shouldnt just be an identical copycat of SOTG lol.


It's a talk show that focuses on SC2, as there are many other shows doing the same. It's hardly copying something, it's just there isn't really a way do it differently.
If you are not supporting K-Pop you are hurting E-Sports.
bhfberserk
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada390 Posts
April 24 2013 15:21 GMT
#405
1) Meta is a clean well put together show, with more than enough content that covered what happened in the Sc2 world past week. +1 for Aiming at around 1 hour 30mins. (I believe Artosis wanted to stop it at the 1hr20mins mark but ended at 1hr46. I hope Artosis keep it at around a clean 90mins.

2) I cannot wait for the MP3 version, so that I can listen to it at during work! MP3 version is a must even seeing the guests is a plus.

3) theognis is quite good. Catz say how Hellbat beats two other races' mineral dump (zealot/zergling), as something that is obvious that everyone should know it is unfair. But thegonis mentioned how you will need Hellbat to defend against the mass remax on zealot/zergling where WOL could not have happened. *They didn't talk about this at the same time but this particular part makes me think it is a great show. The guests' opinions create a better understanding of the game itself - hence "Meta".

Great show!

Would be nice to have a check list of topics visible throughout the whole show, and highlight which content we are at. *So that we can skip ahead sometimes, or see what we are in for the day.

Would love to see the guests prepare some replays or VODs, such as when they talk about how Neural Parasite can catch those Thors! I think this would be possible if some "new metagame" replays are setup before the show start.

+1 will definitely tune in every week.

McDrizzle
Profile Joined September 2011
United States131 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 15:26:56
April 24 2013 15:23 GMT
#406
On April 24 2013 23:47 MagnuMizer wrote:

True, but this is still a show... and i'm sorry to have this opinion, but theognis is far from entertaining... So even if it would be another terran it should be a personality, like DeMuslim.. In fact he would be extremely great to have on this show

and sorry for being "insulting" in my post, i just really dislike JP in every way


I actually didnt find your original post "insulting" in any way it is just your opinion. So I gave you mine in exchange and my personal suggestion. I never said theognis was entertaining to listen to in fact I find him boring as well. I just would trade him for a different terran because technically Artosis is resident moderator and protoss of this show. And what I saw was 2 zergs on this cast and you should trade 1 for a protoss. But either way we are both nit-picking random stuff. Enjoy your day/evening/morning.

PS: never be sorry for your opinion your opinion is your opinion.
wait what
rrwrwx
Profile Joined March 2011
United States247 Posts
April 24 2013 15:26 GMT
#407
That was a fantastic show. I loved it. Keep it up Artosis, don't let this fall through the cracks.
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9433 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 15:38:06
April 24 2013 15:35 GMT
#408
On April 25 2013 00:07 Darkhoarse wrote:
Bringing Demuslim onto the show would be awesome!


Please do this;
1) Watch ITG vods (not demuslim stream).
2) Find one clip of Demuslim where he is entertaining.
3) Argue why he is more entertaining than Theognis during that clip
4) Link it.

Chances are that you will have to work hard.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
April 24 2013 15:46 GMT
#409
On April 25 2013 00:21 Nekovivie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 00:16 Doodsmack wrote:
It's the same exact thing as SOTG with the same exact hosts LOL. These 2 facts create a huge elephant in the room w/r/t JP. Im interested to hear the story.

If Artosis makes a show it really shouldnt just be an identical copycat of SOTG lol.


It's a talk show that focuses on SC2, as there are many other shows doing the same. It's hardly copying something, it's just there isn't really a way do it differently.
Oh sure, using exactly the same pillars from JP's SotG, among which was Artosis himself is the only way to do a show.

"Meta" = SotG - JP + Sympatico's production (great job, by the way!).

It might as well be called "MetaSotG". It felt like that SotG episode when JP was busy so Incontrol was hosting it - just the same guys doing the same thing, but without JP for that episode.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
April 24 2013 15:51 GMT
#410
On April 25 2013 00:21 Nekovivie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 00:16 Doodsmack wrote:
It's the same exact thing as SOTG with the same exact hosts LOL. These 2 facts create a huge elephant in the room w/r/t JP. Im interested to hear the story.

If Artosis makes a show it really shouldnt just be an identical copycat of SOTG lol.


It's a talk show that focuses on SC2, as there are many other shows doing the same. It's hardly copying something, it's just there isn't really a way do it differently.


Meta is much more similar to SOTG than the other shows. It has the same people (!), same layout, same look and feel. But the main thing is having the same people. You just can't do that.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42394 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 16:04:06
April 24 2013 16:03 GMT
#411
Decent first episode. Production was actually really good and i was kinda surprised by that. Guests this week were obviously good and familiar.

Things that bothers me the most (aside from SOTG stuff) is that, i'd like to know a little bit more about the show.

Is this going to be weekly thing with the same 'guests'?
Who is behind the production?
Does the show have sponsors? (That would also imply that the show would continue for more than few episodes)

I hope to get some answers one day, but right now, i'm pretty happy with the show and i'll tune in next week for sure.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Azelja
Profile Joined May 2011
Japan762 Posts
April 24 2013 16:07 GMT
#412
On April 25 2013 01:03 Grettin wrote:
Decent first episode. Production was actually really good and i was kinda surprised by that. Guests this week were obviously good and familiar.

Things that bothers me the most (aside from SOTG stuff) is that, i'd like to know a little bit more about the show.

Is this going to be weekly thing with the same 'guests'?
Who is behind the production?
Does the show have sponsors? (That would also imply that the show would continue for more than few episodes)

I hope to get some answers one day, but right now, i'm pretty happy with the show and i'll tune in next week for sure.


Artosis talked about all of those things on the show...
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42394 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 16:26:49
April 24 2013 16:10 GMT
#413
On April 25 2013 01:07 Azelja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 01:03 Grettin wrote:
Decent first episode. Production was actually really good and i was kinda surprised by that. Guests this week were obviously good and familiar.

Things that bothers me the most (aside from SOTG stuff) is that, i'd like to know a little bit more about the show.

Is this going to be weekly thing with the same 'guests'?
Who is behind the production?
Does the show have sponsors? (That would also imply that the show would continue for more than few episodes)

I hope to get some answers one day, but right now, i'm pretty happy with the show and i'll tune in next week for sure.


Artosis talked about all of those things on the show...


Really? Because i missed it. At which point exactly? I was listening to it on my way home, so that might explain it.

Oh yes, Artosis did mention about the production and that according to him "it will be regular show". But i'm sure that was the goal for Imbalanced (or whatever it was) just as well.. Still, few things that i didn't get an answer at least.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
April 24 2013 16:14 GMT
#414
On April 25 2013 00:51 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 00:21 Nekovivie wrote:
On April 25 2013 00:16 Doodsmack wrote:
It's the same exact thing as SOTG with the same exact hosts LOL. These 2 facts create a huge elephant in the room w/r/t JP. Im interested to hear the story.

If Artosis makes a show it really shouldnt just be an identical copycat of SOTG lol.


It's a talk show that focuses on SC2, as there are many other shows doing the same. It's hardly copying something, it's just there isn't really a way do it differently.


Meta is much more similar to SOTG than the other shows. It has the same people (!), same layout, same look and feel. But the main thing is having the same people. You just can't do that.

It's a typical look and feel from a gazillion other podcasts. Just because they happen to focus on sc2 doesn't make it original. The only thing that may be "copied" is the people involved, but as long as there wasn't any blatant contract breaches I don't see the problem.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
April 24 2013 16:17 GMT
#415
Not a bad show but honestly I feel bad for JP
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
April 24 2013 16:28 GMT
#416
I get everyone things this is a carbon copy of SOTG, but why would Catz, TheOgnis and Moonglade follow Artosis? His name has weight, but more than the sever ties with JP?

I think there's more to this than we think, if anything it's just politics and showbusiness.
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Gorg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany261 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 16:33:54
April 24 2013 16:32 GMT
#417
so how long will this show last? 3 weeks, a month, 2 months? place your bets.
Pelirrojo
Profile Joined April 2010
United States98 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 16:58:55
April 24 2013 16:57 GMT
#418
I loved the show. I don't really care about pro-gamer drama or tournament formats, so I usually skip through 90% of SotG anyways. This is much more in line with what I want to see.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 24 2013 16:57 GMT
#419
no word on it from jp despite random shit on his twitter. since he isnt bothering to address it, i guess i will just write it off.
TheWorldToCome
Profile Joined January 2012
United States452 Posts
April 24 2013 18:24 GMT
#420
On April 25 2013 00:35 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 00:07 Darkhoarse wrote:
Bringing Demuslim onto the show would be awesome!


Please do this;
1) Watch ITG vods (not demuslim stream).
2) Find one clip of Demuslim where he is entertaining.
3) Argue why he is more entertaining than Theognis during that clip
4) Link it.

Chances are that you will have to work hard.



Yeah, on ITG DeMusliM speaks no more than 5 minutes total on the entire show.
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