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fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
April 24 2013 05:32 GMT
#281
Honestly it's simply a dick move to copy the show, take the same guests, and obviously make up the reason why you left. Leave SotG if you want, make your own show if you want, but that's a dick move. I don't know if I can bring myself to watch it.
Little-Chimp
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada948 Posts
April 24 2013 05:35 GMT
#282
Artosis is the man and I highly enjoyed the more in depth gameplay discussion. Lets be real though, the format was SOTG minus JP, and they went straight into it with no explanation. Of course it's going to look like JP just got the boot.
Nomzter
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden2802 Posts
April 24 2013 05:35 GMT
#283
So its SotG without JP?
TechNoTrance
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada1007 Posts
April 24 2013 05:41 GMT
#284
We don't know the exact reasons why he left for his own show, maybe JP wasn't allowing Artosis any creative control, maybe he was underpaid, the hours poor, maybe they had different visions for a show. There is no need to blindly go into speculation and picking sides without knowing the whole story.

On a more positive note, I really enjoyed the show, can't wait for the next one. Wouldn't mind seeing Nonys thoughts on the meta game!
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
bhfberserk
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada390 Posts
April 24 2013 05:42 GMT
#285
Is there a mp3 version out yet?? I want to listen to it at work!!
AstroPegnuin
Profile Joined November 2012
293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 05:47:47
April 24 2013 05:46 GMT
#286
On April 24 2013 14:35 Little-Chimp wrote:
Artosis is the man and I highly enjoyed the more in depth gameplay discussion. Lets be real though, the format was SOTG minus JP, and they went straight into it with no explanation. Of course it's going to look like JP just got the boot.


I never really pegged Artosis as a type of guy who could do something like that but it's pretty much indisputably what happened and I have to say this definitely has changed my opinion of Artosis a bit, its one thing to start up your own competing show (He has every right to do so), but to take all of hosts from SOTG and bringing it to his show is like having a band go separate ways only to reform with a new drummer or something.

A lot of what JP does goes unnoticed and is under appreciated, he pretty much built the SOTG brand to what it is given the fact that the show has had different hosts during different periods while still remaining the premiere show, given we don't know exactly what happened I won't make any accusations but I can derive that JP pretty much got efed over here and left to dry by Artosis. (Whether it was mutual or not)

If your reading this JP a lot of people still support you/care about the product you produce and will continue to do so as long as you keep producing good content which you can do without these guys hopefully
elfonse
Profile Joined March 2011
416 Posts
April 24 2013 05:54 GMT
#287
I like how all the players agreed there shouldve been a registration fee
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
April 24 2013 05:56 GMT
#288
So SOTG is Jefferson Starship, and Meta is Starship?
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Zealot Lord
Profile Joined May 2010
Hong Kong747 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 06:01:52
April 24 2013 06:01 GMT
#289
I'm a huge Artosis fan, but the one thing that bugs me is that he knows this new show IS pretty much SOTG - why did he not make any opening statements addressing that? It's like he's avoiding the issue on purpose or something, which is the cause of leading to so much speculation on what is happening. I like the content, but just not the right way to start something 'new' off in my own opinion.
Bart
Profile Joined November 2010
494 Posts
April 24 2013 06:14 GMT
#290
THIS IS MUTINY!!!

I'm really disappointed with Artosis and even more so with Theognis, Catz and Moonglade. JP brought them onto HIS show (SOTG) and gave them exposure (how many knew who Theognis was before SOTG??) and now they go ahead and screw him over. How is JP gonna find new guests for SOTG at such short notice?

Hopefully JP recovers from this
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Little-Chimp
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada948 Posts
April 24 2013 06:17 GMT
#291
On April 24 2013 15:01 Zealot Lord wrote:
I'm a huge Artosis fan, but the one thing that bugs me is that he knows this new show IS pretty much SOTG - why did he not make any opening statements addressing that? It's like he's avoiding the issue on purpose or something, which is the cause of leading to so much speculation on what is happening. I like the content, but just not the right way to start something 'new' off in my own opinion.


Ye, I really like the idea of gameplay discussion as opposed to drama shit, but I think he should have let the show cook in the oven a little longer. The cryptic hype video made it look like something mysterious and unique, then it ends up giving off the impression of being SOTG - JP + production, despite the content being different.

It's totally cool if they didn't want to talk about TMZ style stuff and JP was holding that back, but they might as well come out and say it is what it is if they're going to have the exact same panel and layout as SOTG.
archonOOid
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1983 Posts
April 24 2013 06:17 GMT
#292
Great show! I'll keep my snide comment about the host versus the host of a similar looking show to myself.
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seansye
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1722 Posts
April 24 2013 06:24 GMT
#293
If the show is created by Artosis, then that means it's going to be canceled again, Right guys??
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Hrrrrm
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2081 Posts
April 24 2013 06:26 GMT
#294
On April 24 2013 15:01 Zealot Lord wrote:
I'm a huge Artosis fan, but the one thing that bugs me is that he knows this new show IS pretty much SOTG - why did he not make any opening statements addressing that? It's like he's avoiding the issue on purpose or something, which is the cause of leading to so much speculation on what is happening. I like the content, but just not the right way to start something 'new' off in my own opinion.


Silence is very powerful. You don't give any information and all the doubters will just continue saying that "nobody knows the whole story" so you can't really judge. This goes on for several days and if no new information is put forward the story dies being replaced by whatever the next story is. Unless JP mans up and gives his side of the story or defends his show there really is zero reason for Artosis to ever speak about it. And of course if JP isn't even going to defend himself or SoTG then why should anyone else care about it.

I'm anxiously waiting to see what happens.
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Deckkie
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1595 Posts
April 24 2013 06:32 GMT
#295
Does this mean that Artosis will have a show that runs longer than 3 episodes?
Always look on the bright side of life
Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 06:49:28
April 24 2013 06:34 GMT
#296
On April 24 2013 14:46 AstroPegnuin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 14:35 Little-Chimp wrote:
Artosis is the man and I highly enjoyed the more in depth gameplay discussion. Lets be real though, the format was SOTG minus JP, and they went straight into it with no explanation. Of course it's going to look like JP just got the boot.


I never really pegged Artosis as a type of guy who could do something like that but it's pretty much indisputably what happened and I have to say this definitely has changed my opinion of Artosis a bit, its one thing to start up your own competing show (He has every right to do so), but to take all of hosts from SOTG and bringing it to his show is like having a band go separate ways only to reform with a new drummer or something.

A lot of what JP does goes unnoticed and is under appreciated, he pretty much built the SOTG brand to what it is given the fact that the show has had different hosts during different periods while still remaining the premiere show, given we don't know exactly what happened I won't make any accusations but I can derive that JP pretty much got efed over here and left to dry by Artosis. (Whether it was mutual or not)

If your reading this JP a lot of people still support you/care about the product you produce and will continue to do so as long as you keep producing good content which you can do without these guys hopefully


I agree. I mean, some may dislike JP but he really brought a lot with SotG and I feel a lot of the times he gets no support at all. I remember when SotG was on hiatus for a while, a lot of the comments were mostly negative (despite the fact that VODs are free and he didn't even have to do the shows in the first place). I definitely will still keep watching SotG.

On April 24 2013 15:14 Bart wrote:
THIS IS MUTINY!!!

I'm really disappointed with Artosis and even more so with Theognis, Catz and Moonglade. JP brought them onto HIS show (SOTG) and gave them exposure (how many knew who Theognis was before SOTG??) and now they go ahead and screw him over. How is JP gonna find new guests for SOTG at such short notice?

Hopefully JP recovers from this


I also agree. Well, more shows is okay for me. I regularly watch Inside the Game and State of the Game (and the Pulse) as much as I can.

Anyway, a lot of speculation is good IMO as discussion like this helps raise awareness of what may potentially be going on.

It really sucks in any circumstance for something like this to happen.

I don't know what happened behind the scenes but until we find out, I won't just ditch one show for another.

To be fair though, I can think tons of valid reasons for something like this to happen (we'll have to see if JP has an explanation of both of them don't say anything).

SotG can definitely do well still. I liked the episodes when SotG returned (which didn't feature any of the old/regular guests) and quite enjoyed those episodes too (since they were talking a decent amount about the game and events).

I'll definitely still watch SotG, and I hope others will too. (While I like Artosis, I feel like other people, especially pro players, can give as good discussions as him. Again, when SotG returned without Artosis, I really enjoyed those episodes as well as the episodes with Artosis in it.)

Edit - Again, I do know there are tons of valid reasons for this to happen. We'll have to wait and see. I guess in a way, Artosis being silent on the subject is probably the best way to go.

Being silent on something is better than hating on another show or bringing in the drama.
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Tppz!
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1449 Posts
April 24 2013 06:35 GMT
#297
Im gonna totally watch the vods! Sotg without Drama and more about the actual game? Sounds like a pretty good show! You cant compare it with sotg which is more like a trolling show with too much of talking about randomstuff of the scene.
NEEDZMOAR
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1277 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 11:48:54
April 24 2013 06:36 GMT
#298
Nevermind, I think artosis gave a good explanation in the first episode.
vojnik
Profile Joined October 2010
Macedonia923 Posts
April 24 2013 06:44 GMT
#299
So much talk about backstabing and who screwed who and whatever drama, this is a starcraft forum and the discussions in the show were on point, this is not a fucking reality show...
For the swarm!
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
April 24 2013 06:49 GMT
#300
JP literally doesn't follow SC2 or care about it anymore. All he does is read reddit and skim TL an hour before the show and talk about the drama. It was always frustrating to me when he would skip over subjects like GSL because he wasn't interested.

I watched every episode of SotG and will continue to watch Roll Play but lets be honest, SotG is good in spite of JP's hosting, not because of it. Meta seems to be a better show, and JP seems to be transitioning into just another youtube let's player, which is pretty lame.
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