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WCS China champion Comm DQ'ed from WCS America - Page 30

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ZooG
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden618 Posts
April 22 2013 20:44 GMT
#581
MLG went Kespa-style on thisone
"Rain, also a name for a meteorological condition" -Artosis
Thurken
Profile Joined September 2011
961 Posts
April 22 2013 21:15 GMT
#582
The problem for me is the fact that he was not informing other players that he was Comm
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16852 Posts
April 22 2013 21:17 GMT
#583
the arbitrary application of so many self contradictory rules gives this thing a real Pro Wrestling Feel.

now.. at one of the live events what we need is..
HuK to knock out 1 of the referees with a "foreign object" and we'll have our own version of Monday Night RAW.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
KelianQatar
Profile Joined December 2012
303 Posts
April 22 2013 21:19 GMT
#584
On April 23 2013 06:17 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
the arbitrary application of so many self contradictory rules gives this thing a real Pro Wrestling Feel.

now.. at one of the live events what we need is..
HuK to knock out 1 of the referees with a "foreign object" and we'll have our own version of Monday Night RAW.


I think Idra would be more likely to do that... using his keyboard!
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16852 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 21:28:17
April 22 2013 21:24 GMT
#585
On April 23 2013 06:19 KelianQatar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 06:17 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
the arbitrary application of so many self contradictory rules gives this thing a real Pro Wrestling Feel.

now.. at one of the live events what we need is..
HuK to knock out 1 of the referees with a "foreign object" and we'll have our own version of Monday Night RAW.


I think Idra would be more likely to do that... using his keyboard!


The whole thing sorta feels like this...



"a miscarriage of justice"
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
April 22 2013 21:30 GMT
#586
On April 23 2013 06:15 Thurken wrote:
The problem for me is the fact that he was not informing other players that he was Comm

mrbitter was mentioning it in "the pulse" yesterday. he was open from the beginning, he said hey i am comm. he informed everyone according to mrbitter. stop posting wrong information.
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Cosmos
Profile Joined March 2010
Belgium1077 Posts
April 22 2013 21:33 GMT
#587
I'd aggree with this decision if he played on someone's else account AND on his, but since he wasn't able to play on his, I don't see any issue there...
http://www.twitch.tv/becosmos
Richard4021
Profile Joined October 2011
United States73 Posts
April 22 2013 21:38 GMT
#588
I totally agreed with the decision of MLG to disqualified players using others gamers accounts. We need to enforce the ethic of the e-gaming.
urashimakt
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1591 Posts
April 22 2013 21:40 GMT
#589
  • He's a WCS National champion and did not receive a seed from Blizzard. That was disappointing.
  • The MLG format allows 512 seemingly randomly selected players to compete. That was disappointing.
  • Comm did not make the 512 cut. That was unfortunate.
  • Comm broke a rule and was disqualified: a punishment defined by the rule broken. That was appropriate.
  • The rule break could have been caught and handled earlier and differently. That was disappointing.


Maybe the enforcement of the rule made you angry. Be reasonable. Be disappointed. Don't become part of the unreasonably angry mob. Who does that help? It doesn't help Comm, MLG, Blizzard or yourself.

Feedback like "the format could be improved next year by prioritizing professional players" is much more useful than "I hope MLG dies because it's so shit".

Personally, despite the heartbreak, I'm still looking forward to the WCS.
Who dat ninja?
Aevera
Profile Joined March 2012
United States105 Posts
April 22 2013 21:41 GMT
#590
On April 23 2013 06:30 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 06:15 Thurken wrote:
The problem for me is the fact that he was not informing other players that he was Comm

mrbitter was mentioning it in "the pulse" yesterday. he was open from the beginning, he said hey i am comm. he informed everyone according to mrbitter. stop posting wrong information.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=408680&currentpage=101#2001

He did?
Arev#1139 / LoL: Arev
semmeL
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany85 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 21:45:18
April 22 2013 21:44 GMT
#591
Other players got seeded into the bracket, why did a WCS-China Champion not ? Just lazy work from MLG to not be up to date with the sc2 scene at all and not doing any research, they had enough time for that. Dont tell me its hard to look up all top 3 finishes for every last WCS Region.
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
April 22 2013 21:46 GMT
#592
On April 23 2013 06:41 Aevera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 06:30 Undead1993 wrote:
On April 23 2013 06:15 Thurken wrote:
The problem for me is the fact that he was not informing other players that he was Comm

mrbitter was mentioning it in "the pulse" yesterday. he was open from the beginning, he said hey i am comm. he informed everyone according to mrbitter. stop posting wrong information.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=408680&currentpage=101#2001

He did?

according to mr bitter he did. theres also a vod available on the official nasl twitch channel
http://www.twitch.tv/nasltv/b/394076189 at ~1hour 18 mins he starts talking about this whole thing. later he mentions that comm was completely open with that, even if he wasn't this is just shit. all random koreans are using different tags and noone knows who they are.
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11068 Posts
April 22 2013 21:46 GMT
#593
On April 23 2013 06:33 Cosmos wrote:
I'd aggree with this decision if he played on someone's else account AND on his, but since he wasn't able to play on his, I don't see any issue there...


Yeah. And it's not like it'd be an exception for Joe Pub player. One of the tip top chinese players I think you err on the side of discretion saying "Ok. First season had a lot of chaos... we'll allow it but unconditionally we will DQ in the next round'.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
MonkSEA
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia1227 Posts
April 22 2013 21:49 GMT
#594
On April 23 2013 06:40 urashimakt wrote:
  • He's a WCS National champion and did not receive a seed from Blizzard. That was disappointing.
  • The MLG format allows 512 seemingly randomly selected players to compete. That was disappointing.
  • Comm did not make the 512 cut. That was unfortunate.
  • Comm broke a rule and was disqualified: a punishment defined by the rule broken. That was appropriate.
  • The rule break could have been caught and handled earlier and differently. That was disappointing.


Maybe the enforcement of the rule made you angry. Be reasonable. Be disappointed. Don't become part of the unreasonably angry mob. Who does that help? It doesn't help Comm, MLG, Blizzard or yourself.

Feedback like "the format could be improved next year by prioritizing professional players" is much more useful than "I hope MLG dies because it's so shit".

Personally, despite the heartbreak, I'm still looking forward to the WCS.


Feedback like "the format could be improved next year by prioritizing professional players" for the Code S equivalent WCS NA, I mean how dumb do you have to be as an organization to let people who are gold/diamond play in this? They've got no chance to actually get past the first few rounds if they're lucky. I would expect some lesser players in the challenger league qualifiers but not for the Code S equivalent.
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Richard4021
Profile Joined October 2011
United States73 Posts
April 22 2013 21:52 GMT
#595
[QUOTE]On April 23 2013 06:44 semmeL wrote:
Other players got seeded into the bracket, why did a WCS-China Champion not ? Just lazy work from MLG to not be up to date with the sc2 scene at all and not doing any research, they had enough time for that. Dont tell me its hard to look up all top 3 finishes for every last WCS Region.[/QUOTE

I believe this bring back the issue of how we separated the three regions of WCS, and how we enforce the regions separation. NA don't have enough spot to seats all player from all over the world (including EU and Korea participants).
Richard4021
Profile Joined October 2011
United States73 Posts
April 22 2013 21:55 GMT
#596
On April 23 2013 06:33 Cosmos wrote:
I'd aggree with this decision if he played on someone's else account AND on his, but since he wasn't able to play on his, I don't see any issue there...



If he qualify to play in MLG studio, who should be invited to the tournament.
Elairec
Profile Joined June 2011
United States410 Posts
April 22 2013 21:57 GMT
#597
On April 23 2013 06:46 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 06:41 Aevera wrote:
On April 23 2013 06:30 Undead1993 wrote:
On April 23 2013 06:15 Thurken wrote:
The problem for me is the fact that he was not informing other players that he was Comm

mrbitter was mentioning it in "the pulse" yesterday. he was open from the beginning, he said hey i am comm. he informed everyone according to mrbitter. stop posting wrong information.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=408680&currentpage=101#2001

He did?

according to mr bitter he did. theres also a vod available on the official nasl twitch channel
http://www.twitch.tv/nasltv/b/394076189 at ~1hour 18 mins he starts talking about this whole thing. later he mentions that comm was completely open with that, even if he wasn't this is just shit. all random koreans are using different tags and noone knows who they are.


First off, it came from Caliber's own mouth that he didn't represent himself as Comm openly, so whether or not MrBitter said so, doesn't matter. Smurfing and playing on someone elses account are different things. I have a feeling had FruitsBasket and Comm been open about it to the admins from the beginning, then MLG would have allowed him to play.
coolcor
Profile Joined February 2011
520 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 22:02:14
April 22 2013 22:00 GMT
#598
On April 23 2013 06:40 urashimakt wrote:
  • He's a WCS National champion and did not receive a seed from Blizzard. That was disappointing.
  • The MLG format allows 512 seemingly randomly selected players to compete. That was disappointing.
  • Comm did not make the 512 cut. That was unfortunate.
  • Comm broke a rule and was disqualified: a punishment defined by the rule broken. That was appropriate.
  • The rule break could have been caught and handled earlier and differently. That was disappointing.


Maybe the enforcement of the rule made you angry. Be reasonable. Be disappointed. Don't become part of the unreasonably angry mob. Who does that help? It doesn't help Comm, MLG, Blizzard or yourself.

Feedback like "the format could be improved next year by prioritizing professional players" is much more useful than "I hope MLG dies because it's so shit".

Personally, despite the heartbreak, I'm still looking forward to the WCS.

Comm broke a rule and was disqualified: a punishment defined by the rule broken. That was appropriate.


Do you feel it would have also been appropriate to chose not to DQ him for the rule because it says may? If not are you disappointed at how inappropriate it is that all the pros who broke the don't reveal results on twitter rule have not been DQ'd for it? If you are ok with that then you agree that MLG can chose not to DQ and that they made a poor choice not to use that ability for comm.

useful than "I hope MLG dies because it's so shit".


I agree that is very inappropriate. You should quote the specific people who said something like that and shame them for it to hopefully discourage it in the future. Otherwise they might think you are talking about everyone else not them.
happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
April 22 2013 22:01 GMT
#599
On April 23 2013 06:40 urashimakt wrote:
  • He's a WCS National champion and did not receive a seed from Blizzard. That was disappointing.
  • The MLG format allows 512 seemingly randomly selected players to compete. That was disappointing.
  • Comm did not make the 512 cut. That was unfortunate.
  • Comm broke a rule and was disqualified: a punishment defined by the rule broken. That was appropriate.
  • The rule break could have been caught and handled earlier and differently. That was disappointing.


Maybe the enforcement of the rule made you angry. Be reasonable. Be disappointed. Don't become part of the unreasonably angry mob. Who does that help? It doesn't help Comm, MLG, Blizzard or yourself.

Feedback like "the format could be improved next year by prioritizing professional players" is much more useful than "I hope MLG dies because it's so shit".

Personally, despite the heartbreak, I'm still looking forward to the WCS.


Ya that sums it up. MLG should have had better seeded players, and if someone is willing to give up there spot they should allow it. Really blizzard should have been mindful of other players in the first place, though.
semmeL
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany85 Posts
April 22 2013 22:01 GMT
#600
On April 23 2013 06:52 Richard4021 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 06:44 semmeL wrote:
Other players got seeded into the bracket, why did a WCS-China Champion not ? Just lazy work from MLG to not be up to date with the sc2 scene at all and not doing any research, they had enough time for that. Dont tell me its hard to look up all top 3 finishes for every last WCS Region.


I believe this bring back the issue of how we separated the three regions of WCS, and how we enforce the regions separation. NA don't have enough spot to seats all player from all over the world (including EU and Korea participants).


I dont see where in a 512 qualifier are not enough space for the Progamers from other regions also
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