WCS America Qualifier so far - Page 32

On April 22 2013 20:04 syllogism wrote:

Dreamhack is a two day tournament ending on 27th. Can't you participate in both due to the time difference, even if you make it to the DH finals?

On April 22 2013 20:05 Plansix wrote:

It doesn't matter, he is in code S and shouldn't be trying out anyways.

On April 22 2013 20:07 syllogism wrote:

Of course it matters, hyun isn't the only player affected

On April 22 2013 20:08 Plansix wrote:

That is true and hopefully they will switch the date. Hyun is still an idiot.

On April 22 2013 20:05 Plansix wrote:

It doesn't matter, he is in code S and shouldn't be trying out anyways.

On April 22 2013 20:09 SayTT wrote:


No he is great!

On April 22 2013 20:10 Plansix wrote:

Every other Korean player in the world figured out that you couldn't be in both the NA WCS and the GSL at the same time. And after being DQ yesterday, he still thinks he can play. He is being a little thick right now.

On April 22 2013 20:10 Weirdkid wrote:

Aren't current Code S people allowed to try for the Challenger League? I always thought they were.

https://twitter.com/MLGSundance/status/326281104397058048
Statement from MLG this morning regarding the WCS events of this past weekend.

Not saying it was perfect but lots of bad info flying about.

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1cgq5l/esl_fucks_up_again/c9gflq1
While I feel that the flak we got for the first two qualifiers is deserved, I feel we are at a point where anyone screams "injustice" and the angry mob follows.

Facts:

We do not have unlimited time to complete the qualification process. WCS begins next week.

4 cups were planned for the qualification process.

Cup 1 was unlimited, ended up running on a 1024 player bracket.

Cup 2 was announced for 256 players, was increased to 512 (it started prematurely and still finished shortly before 1am).

Cup 3 was announced for 256 players, was increased to 512.

Cup 4 was announced as unlimited and will run over two days if need be.

The referees have a list of 60 players that are certain to get into the cup if they want it based on prior tournament results and community standing. The referees take time and contact the players via Skype or via email, or via their management, to sign them up.

The list includes: Welmu, beastyqt, BlinG, fraer, PandaTank, duckdeok (finale), LoWeLy, KrasS, XiGua, NightEnd, Harstem, TargA, Strelok, Brat_ok, XlorD, Daisy, LiveZerg, GoOdy, Starbuck, Tails, elfi, White Ra, Bischu, StraNaN, White, Tarrantius, SjoW, Mentalking, Tefel, Adelscott, MorroW, PsiOniC, JohnnyREcco, HappyZerg, Verdi, Naama, Stardust, RunA, Fuzer, Hanfy, sYz, DieStar, hOpe, Giantt, Ziktomini, Siw, LaLuSh, Sonder15, Devil, Zanster, spacemarine, roxi, ShoWTime, DeathAngel, ParanOi, Delphi, Protosser, Ourk...

We would obviously love to accept every single player that wants to join, but that's what cups 1 and 4 were there for from the beginning.

Again: while I accept the criticism for Cup 1 (it was delayed because of a bug in the seeding script and the referees actually manually seeded 512 players out of the 1024) and for Cup 2, and we've had quite the meeting today about those mistakes, this here thing is becoming a bit of a witch hunt.

We have made mistakes, but we have taken several steps towards the community as well: free to play qualifiers, increased cups, meticulous seeding and making sure relevant and semi-relevant players are able to play.

I certainly see where you're coming from. Maybe we could have done some things better, however establishing a league encompassing 50 countries in the space of a couple of weeks is not a simple task.

Note that 24 players in Europe and 24 in North America were hand picked and invited into the league. You can easily imagine and understand why it was done. Pre-seeding players is an extension of the same logic. It's not a manipulation of the system, it's a clear extension of it. If you take issue with it, then I assume you also take issue with 24 players being invited. And I understand the sentiment.

Also: of course we do get paid to do this. So does GSL, WCG, MLG, DreamHack, NASL and everyone else.

On April 22 2013 20:19 JustPassingBy wrote:
So let's put the statement of the MLG and the statement of the ESL side by side:

MLG:


+ Show Spoiler +

On April 22 2013 17:34 TechNoTrance wrote:
Amidst all the terrible management, administration, and planning of MLG, we shouldn't forget the solid casting Axeltoss and Axslav did (and their guest casters). At least they gave us a reason to keep watching.

Hopefully MLG learns something from this disastrous event.

On April 22 2013 20:19 JustPassingBy wrote:
So let's put the statement of the MLG and the statement of the ESL side by side:

On April 22 2013 20:27 GizmoPT wrote:


bullshit takes time to write :D