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Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4136 Posts
April 09 2013 18:05 GMT
#121
What about Dimaga? clanless and Ukrainian ->two reason to join NaVi.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
April 09 2013 18:10 GMT
#122
Wow, me and my friend was just talking about how it felt like Strelok vanished soon after he made his "dedicated terran with carpet wallpaper"-video. Really nice to see him in the news again.
We make signature, then defense it.
mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
April 09 2013 18:15 GMT
#123
On April 10 2013 02:55 drugsarebad wrote:
Whats the point of making a team without at least 1 marketable stand out player? Every team needs a face.FXO NA and EU were basically charity projects anyways. I hardly even knew babyknight used to be in FXO let alone the other players. What are they actually paying these players salary for?


How was FXO EU a charity project? Three top EU players in their respective race, two of which live in countries where the money made off eSports is actually really good. They do really well in EU team leagues and the domestic scene. They did pretty well in terms of incomeas well. They're a really talented bunch that can do really well in WCS Europe.
mousesports, Team Acer, Fnatic!
sashqinCho
Profile Joined March 2011
Russian Federation131 Posts
April 09 2013 18:21 GMT
#124
wow, strelok should print NaVi logo on paper and hang it on his carpet!

gl Lowely
asd
Vertitto
Profile Joined January 2012
Poland750 Posts
April 09 2013 18:21 GMT
#125
So it's
Na'Vi_Strelok or
FXO_Strelok or
Na'Vi-FXO_Strelok ?
How does this partnership work ?
FISH MAKE BLUB BLUB
Riquiz
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands402 Posts
April 09 2013 18:31 GMT
#126
that's so cool !
Caster man does casting on yt/RiquizCasts
drugsarebad
Profile Joined January 2013
20 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 18:37:08
April 09 2013 18:35 GMT
#127
On April 10 2013 03:15 mikkmagro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 02:55 drugsarebad wrote:
Whats the point of making a team without at least 1 marketable stand out player? Every team needs a face.FXO NA and EU were basically charity projects anyways. I hardly even knew babyknight used to be in FXO let alone the other players. What are they actually paying these players salary for?


How was FXO EU a charity project? Three top EU players in their respective race, two of which live in countries where the money made off eSports is actually really good. They do really well in EU team leagues and the domestic scene. They did pretty well in terms of incomeas well. They're a really talented bunch that can do really well in WCS Europe.


Earning $17,870 in 3 years is not good. But its really beside the point whats important is whether they got anyone that actually brings viewers. Do they?
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3300 Posts
April 09 2013 18:45 GMT
#128
Looks good! Great for both parties and the rest of us~
T P Z sagi
Noxie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2227 Posts
April 09 2013 18:47 GMT
#129
Excellent roster. Ill be interested to see what comes from this team
mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
April 09 2013 18:54 GMT
#130
On April 10 2013 03:35 drugsarebad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 03:15 mikkmagro wrote:
On April 10 2013 02:55 drugsarebad wrote:
Whats the point of making a team without at least 1 marketable stand out player? Every team needs a face.FXO NA and EU were basically charity projects anyways. I hardly even knew babyknight used to be in FXO let alone the other players. What are they actually paying these players salary for?


How was FXO EU a charity project? Three top EU players in their respective race, two of which live in countries where the money made off eSports is actually really good. They do really well in EU team leagues and the domestic scene. They did pretty well in terms of incomeas well. They're a really talented bunch that can do really well in WCS Europe.


Earning $17,870 in 3 years is not good. But its really beside the point whats important is whether they got anyone that actually brings viewers. Do they?

17k is pretty good for mid tier foreigners lol. that's like three times what he would have made in three years with an average Ukrainian salary lol.

They don't attract the viewers that EG or Liquid players attract obviously, not too bad however. Keep in mind that streaming isn't everything - it only became viable relatively recently, and eSports has been around for quite some time now. Organisations are still able to rake in sponsors of they have achievements to show, for example.
mousesports, Team Acer, Fnatic!
Radel
Profile Joined June 2011
United States115 Posts
April 09 2013 19:04 GMT
#131
any indication on which name they will take?
Manner should be mutual. Innovation - Jjakji - Grubby - HuK - JD - StarDust - Flash - Balloon
drugsarebad
Profile Joined January 2013
20 Posts
April 09 2013 19:10 GMT
#132
On April 10 2013 03:54 mikkmagro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 03:35 drugsarebad wrote:
On April 10 2013 03:15 mikkmagro wrote:
On April 10 2013 02:55 drugsarebad wrote:
Whats the point of making a team without at least 1 marketable stand out player? Every team needs a face.FXO NA and EU were basically charity projects anyways. I hardly even knew babyknight used to be in FXO let alone the other players. What are they actually paying these players salary for?


How was FXO EU a charity project? Three top EU players in their respective race, two of which live in countries where the money made off eSports is actually really good. They do really well in EU team leagues and the domestic scene. They did pretty well in terms of incomeas well. They're a really talented bunch that can do really well in WCS Europe.


Earning $17,870 in 3 years is not good. But its really beside the point whats important is whether they got anyone that actually brings viewers. Do they?

17k is pretty good for mid tier foreigners lol. that's like three times what he would have made in three years with an average Ukrainian salary lol.

They don't attract the viewers that EG or Liquid players attract obviously, not too bad however. Keep in mind that streaming isn't everything - it only became viable relatively recently, and eSports has been around for quite some time now. Organisations are still able to rake in sponsors of they have achievements to show, for example.


What is there for esports besides streaming content and tournaments? Also who is sponsoring an esports team that doesnt get eyeballs for their sponsors? Thats why im saying creating a team without a person that has substantial pull is either a charity project or bad business.
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
April 09 2013 19:11 GMT
#133
On April 10 2013 03:54 mikkmagro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 03:35 drugsarebad wrote:
On April 10 2013 03:15 mikkmagro wrote:
On April 10 2013 02:55 drugsarebad wrote:
Whats the point of making a team without at least 1 marketable stand out player? Every team needs a face.FXO NA and EU were basically charity projects anyways. I hardly even knew babyknight used to be in FXO let alone the other players. What are they actually paying these players salary for?


How was FXO EU a charity project? Three top EU players in their respective race, two of which live in countries where the money made off eSports is actually really good. They do really well in EU team leagues and the domestic scene. They did pretty well in terms of incomeas well. They're a really talented bunch that can do really well in WCS Europe.


Earning $17,870 in 3 years is not good. But its really beside the point whats important is whether they got anyone that actually brings viewers. Do they?

17k is pretty good for mid tier foreigners lol. that's like three times what he would have made in three years with an average Ukrainian salary lol.

They don't attract the viewers that EG or Liquid players attract obviously, not too bad however. Keep in mind that streaming isn't everything - it only became viable relatively recently, and eSports has been around for quite some time now. Organisations are still able to rake in sponsors of they have achievements to show, for example.

It is if you are not a top 50 player. Sc2 is entertainment outside of KR. I am curious if the new WCS format is gonna change that in EU and NA.

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Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
April 09 2013 19:13 GMT
#134
Grats to those guys i supose ? Solid lineup to take over.
PiQLiQ
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden702 Posts
April 09 2013 19:14 GMT
#135
Good luck guys! ^~^
http://twitter.com/PiQLiQ
Merix
Profile Joined November 2011
Ukraine28 Posts
April 09 2013 19:24 GMT
#136
On April 10 2013 03:21 Vertitto wrote:
So it's
Na'Vi_Strelok or
FXO_Strelok or
Na'Vi-FXO_Strelok ?
How does this partnership work ?


Na'Vi.Strelok would be correct
mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
April 09 2013 19:25 GMT
#137
On April 10 2013 04:10 drugsarebad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 03:54 mikkmagro wrote:
On April 10 2013 03:35 drugsarebad wrote:
On April 10 2013 03:15 mikkmagro wrote:
On April 10 2013 02:55 drugsarebad wrote:
Whats the point of making a team without at least 1 marketable stand out player? Every team needs a face.FXO NA and EU were basically charity projects anyways. I hardly even knew babyknight used to be in FXO let alone the other players. What are they actually paying these players salary for?


How was FXO EU a charity project? Three top EU players in their respective race, two of which live in countries where the money made off eSports is actually really good. They do really well in EU team leagues and the domestic scene. They did pretty well in terms of incomeas well. They're a really talented bunch that can do really well in WCS Europe.


Earning $17,870 in 3 years is not good. But its really beside the point whats important is whether they got anyone that actually brings viewers. Do they?

17k is pretty good for mid tier foreigners lol. that's like three times what he would have made in three years with an average Ukrainian salary lol.

They don't attract the viewers that EG or Liquid players attract obviously, not too bad however. Keep in mind that streaming isn't everything - it only became viable relatively recently, and eSports has been around for quite some time now. Organisations are still able to rake in sponsors of they have achievements to show, for example.


What is there for esports besides streaming content and tournaments? Also who is sponsoring an esports team that doesnt get eyeballs for their sponsors? Thats why im saying creating a team without a person that has substantial pull is either a charity project or bad business.


Well, evidently, some people do think they're good enough to promote their interests and sponsors. That someone happens to be one of the most successful organisations in eSports. It is true that they don't have any world champions for now, then again, no foreign team does except for EG, Liquid and Mouz. Thing is, I doubt an org like Na'Vi would ever consider hiring Koreans, because they traditionally go for Ukrainians and nearby countries, and there are very few players which most would consider 'profitable'. But then again, perhaps Na'Vi have a plan to foster these players, or have good enough connections to sell them to sponsors. Hell, before EG got so rich, their players weren't that good at all, but they knew how to market them. If teams weren't able to sell mid-tier pros to sponsors, Fnatic, Dignitas, and most other teams wouldn't have SC2 teams by now.
mousesports, Team Acer, Fnatic!
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
April 09 2013 19:29 GMT
#138
babyknight back to navi
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
Galfi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Brazil56 Posts
April 09 2013 19:29 GMT
#139
FINALLY!

Really excited to see Na'Vi, one of the most organized and dedicated esports franchises trying out sc2, i'm pretty sure they're gonna give all the support to their players like they already do in CS and DotA2.

Particularly curious about how much Babyknight, Lowely and Strelok will grow in this more professional enviroment.


Good luck to my, insta-favourite european team


GO NA'VI!
"I'm not young enough to know everything"
LeeDawg
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1306 Posts
April 09 2013 19:29 GMT
#140
solid lineup
:-)
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