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Kuni
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Austria765 Posts
March 25 2013 12:58 GMT
#201
Competitive Hearthstone CG Championship? ....
bonus vir semper tiro
Applesmack
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada680 Posts
March 25 2013 13:07 GMT
#202
So does this mean that ladder rankings are actually going to matter? Also, will increased Blizz support bring tournament viewing prices down? They are too expensive for me to buy more than 1. I always have to miss out on either team league or GSL
aristarchus
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States652 Posts
March 25 2013 13:12 GMT
#203
The obvious deal that was sitting out there to be made was some sort of combination where the OSL and GSL "merge" into something that's basically an expanded GSL, while Proleague and GSTL "merge" into something that's basically an expanded Proleague. That would have created a good, unified, healthy scene. The fact that this deal is being made with OGN rather than with Kespa tells me either a) Blizzard and GOM are complete idiots or b) Kespa refuses to accept a future in which they don't have complete control over Proleague. The new unified team league would have had to have some meaningful control by ESF, or a new organization that replaced both ESF and Kespa and controlled both teams, or was controlled by a third party (Blizzard, OGN/GOM, etc.) that wasn't the same as any of the teams. It might be that Kespa is just too set in its ways to accept that. Maybe the goal here is to show Kespa the leverage the others have and force them to bargain.

The scene will be better if it's unified. Whether this is the best possible way to do it is something no one can know without having been in the negotiations personally.
algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
March 25 2013 13:13 GMT
#204
On March 25 2013 21:58 Kuni wrote:
Competitive Hearthstone CG Championship? ....


Yes please this game looks great
rly ?
Gorilla23
Profile Joined March 2012
United States339 Posts
March 25 2013 13:20 GMT
#205
I hope if there is to be no OSL separate from the GSL that seeds are done away with. It makes it feel more prestigious without giving seeds to people who do well in other tournaments. If there is to be but one league, I hope they make some changes.

That said, I'm curious what this change will be.
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
March 25 2013 13:27 GMT
#206
There is nothing to worry about, it's good for Esport.
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
Copymizer
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark2099 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-25 13:29:57
March 25 2013 13:29 GMT
#207
if anything
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Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
March 25 2013 13:36 GMT
#208
On March 25 2013 22:13 algue wrote:
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On March 25 2013 21:58 Kuni wrote:
Competitive Hearthstone CG Championship? ....


Yes please this game looks great



I think the community has all come together and decided that while the announcement was a massive collective disappointment, the game itself looks pretty neat.


On-topic, I'm hoping for a unified, Blizzard-backed league with an ongoing format similar to GSL, with broadcast times that make sense for every region. 9PM, S-TH, you get top tier SC2 no matter where you live. Fingers crossed :D
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
Delphiki
Profile Joined October 2012
Philippines1955 Posts
March 25 2013 13:38 GMT
#209
What if this is all april fools?
Callynn
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands917 Posts
March 25 2013 13:38 GMT
#210
On March 25 2013 16:22 Daswollvieh wrote:
So Blizzard starts investing into esports. Kinda late to the party, but better late than never.

Also, I don´t think of a stronger presence of Blizzard as a bad thing for the market. It´s good that there´s someone who has an interest in SC2 beyond one´s own production.


I absolutely agree with this.
To be honest, I think the main problem with E-sports as opposed to other sports currently is that there is no international standard. Like, we have a national and european level of soccer unions who organize a highly professional league (the champion's league) that everyone considers to be the most important place for soccer teams to prove themselves.

We miss something like this for SC2, or games in general. Riot Games is a pioneer in this, and I suppose Blizzard should be too. Last year's Blizzard World Championship was a great example of how it should be organized (centralized), but there is still a lot of room for growth and improvement.

I hope this investment pays of in that direction.
Comparing BW with SCII is like comparing a beautiful three-master sailing ship with a modern battlecruiser. Both are beautiful in their own way, both perform the same task, but they are worlds apart in how they are built and how they are steered.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33503 Posts
March 25 2013 13:40 GMT
#211
this is a pretty messy translation
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Acasta
Profile Joined November 2011
27 Posts
March 25 2013 13:40 GMT
#212
My guess is a Starcraft 2 Trading Card Game with tournaments hold by GomTV
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
March 25 2013 13:42 GMT
#213
On March 25 2013 21:58 Kuni wrote:
Competitive Hearthstone CG Championship? ....

I would watch that.

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But would prefer some Starcraft :D. Still, too many Hearthstone jokes going on.
Holdenintherye
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada1441 Posts
March 25 2013 13:42 GMT
#214
I like the idea of a consolidated league with both eSF and Kespa players.
Maybe theyre not including Proleague because of SpoTV?
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
March 25 2013 13:44 GMT
#215
On March 25 2013 21:23 opterown wrote:
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On March 25 2013 21:20 Locke- wrote:
On March 25 2013 21:01 JerseyDevil wrote:
I'm so sick of everyone announcing announcements. Just do it or don't blizzard ffs

Kespa may not die but they can drop SC2 any time they want.

isn't sc2 the only game kespa has at the moment anyway?
so if they drop sc2, by definition they die

Kespa manages dozens of "esports" games, not just sc2. It's associated with Minitry of Culture and Tourism and Olympic Committee, so it's technically a government agency and can't die.
Although Kespa manages dozens of games, they have hand-off policy on most of the games, and only care much about SC2.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
March 25 2013 13:53 GMT
#216
I wish the people who know what's going on would either spit it out or stay quiet instead of teasing and making cryptic comments on reddit/twitter/TL -.-
AdministratorBreak the chains
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
March 25 2013 13:56 GMT
#217
On March 25 2013 15:53 Jealous wrote:
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On March 25 2013 15:51 canikizu wrote:
LAN coming?

nah who am i kidding.

Lol ninja edit.

I was going to say that this development might actually make SC2 a top 10 game @ PC bang... ;D

still funny how it didn't even beat its predesesor
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
Whoranzone
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany330 Posts
March 25 2013 13:57 GMT
#218
On what site do I have to create an account to get to be a lol fan ?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-25 14:02:29
March 25 2013 13:57 GMT
#219
I guess we'll probably find out the 2nd seed here as well? oh lol I somehow missed where it said it was Last. oh wait thats rumors. damn i should have a cup of coffee before reading these
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Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
March 25 2013 13:59 GMT
#220
On March 25 2013 22:57 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I guess we'll probably find out the 2nd seed here as well?



After Seeing Last at MLG, it would be great if it would be him
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