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Quixotic_tv
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Germany130 Posts
March 25 2013 12:08 GMT
#181
Que sera sera...

I think we have no other choice than waiting for 4/4.

Anyways, I am excited.

Life always finds a way.
Mahanaim
Profile Joined December 2012
Korea (South)1002 Posts
March 25 2013 12:09 GMT
#182
The choice shall be made, and time shall tell.
Celebrating Starcraft since... a long time ago.
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
March 25 2013 12:10 GMT
#183
On March 25 2013 21:01 JerseyDevil wrote:
I'm so sick of everyone announcing announcements. Just do it or don't blizzard ffs

This is one that actually deserves an announcement of an announcement
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
Master of DalK
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada1803 Posts
March 25 2013 12:11 GMT
#184
Y'know, everyone happens to be talking about leagues coming together to make a super league. OSL is supposed happening. DoA said it on a State of the Game a while back. Ofc this could have changed by now ;~;

I'm gonna wait and see as to what's going to be happening before passing judgement =/
@MasterDalK | Maelstrom Entertainment | Streaming Every Esport Under the Sun
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
March 25 2013 12:14 GMT
#185
On March 25 2013 21:01 JerseyDevil wrote:
I'm so sick of everyone announcing announcements. Just do it or don't blizzard ffs

it's not blizzard making this announcement of an announcement, it's just speculation going on right now.
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
See.Blue
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2673 Posts
March 25 2013 12:16 GMT
#186
As a nerd I hate any sort of change so I'm against this.
Copymizer
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark2108 Posts
March 25 2013 12:20 GMT
#187
And so the progamer scene was running perfectly fine during bw days with establish MSL on MBCGame and Proleague on OGN, then comes Blizzard smashing in with SC2 and makes a mess of it all...i think many of the old heads who dedicated their time to their passion of bw are somewhat dissapointed over how the last 3 years has turned out in terms of progaming in their country compared to now and what it was before..
~~Yo man ! MBCGame HERO Fighting !! Holy check !
Locke-
Profile Joined December 2011
499 Posts
March 25 2013 12:20 GMT
#188
On March 25 2013 21:01 JerseyDevil wrote:
I'm so sick of everyone announcing announcements. Just do it or don't blizzard ffs

Kespa may not die but they can drop SC2 any time they want.
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
March 25 2013 12:21 GMT
#189
On March 25 2013 21:10 Za7oX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2013 21:01 JerseyDevil wrote:
I'm so sick of everyone announcing announcements. Just do it or don't blizzard ffs

This is one that actually deserves an announcement of an announcement


Why? Because the speculation is freaking people out?

The announcement of the announcement says nothing. "Sources claim" is basically what all the drama in this thread is centering around.
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algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
March 25 2013 12:21 GMT
#190
New drama incoming, nerds love drama
rly ?
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
March 25 2013 12:23 GMT
#191
On March 25 2013 21:20 Locke- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2013 21:01 JerseyDevil wrote:
I'm so sick of everyone announcing announcements. Just do it or don't blizzard ffs

Kespa may not die but they can drop SC2 any time they want.

isn't sc2 the only game kespa has at the moment anyway?
so if they drop sc2, by definition they die
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-25 12:25:38
March 25 2013 12:25 GMT
#192
Edit: Holy shit way to post on the wrong thread :D
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-25 12:30:07
March 25 2013 12:28 GMT
#193
This bigger integration of GSL and OSL may very well just be that GSL will be broadcasted on both OGN and GomTV.

A few reasons:
(1) GSL Season 2 is announced and especially its qualifier is also announced today and it's open to register.
(2) As a person pointed out, people related to OGN are not happy but worried, and the only people who is happy is Chung.
(3) All of Dingobloo's reasons do not conflict with this speculation.

So, don't be too hyped up.

Source:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=404725&currentpage=6#106
http://www.gomtv.net/forum/view.gom?topicid=300190&cid=0&kind=8
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1aymqg/something_very_big_in_koreas_sc2_scene_will_be/c91zb8s
Locke-
Profile Joined December 2011
499 Posts
March 25 2013 12:30 GMT
#194
On March 25 2013 21:23 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2013 21:20 Locke- wrote:
On March 25 2013 21:01 JerseyDevil wrote:
I'm so sick of everyone announcing announcements. Just do it or don't blizzard ffs

Kespa may not die but they can drop SC2 any time they want.

isn't sc2 the only game kespa has at the moment anyway?
so if they drop sc2, by definition they die

They have Starcraft, Kart Rider, Special Forces, the teams with LoL squads are under KeSPA etc. They're not just about SC...
schaf
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1326 Posts
March 25 2013 12:36 GMT
#195
On March 25 2013 18:14 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2013 18:11 Ruscour wrote:
On March 25 2013 17:45 Lunareste wrote:
On March 25 2013 17:30 Ruscour wrote:
I knew that LoL was demolishing SC2 in Korea but THIS bad...it's just sad. I can't see how this type of investment is sustainable for Blizzard, or how the scene can support the absolute wealth of progamers in Korea. I mean, 7 KeSPA teams and even more eSF teams? That's hundreds of progamers in a scene that really can't support it...


Why isn't that type of investment sustainable for Blizzard?

You do know that they make BILLIONS of dollars annually from World of Warcraft alone? Blizzard can make two in-game pets for Warcraft and generate the extra income to inject this type of money into whatever they want. Mike Morhaime has publicly stated that Starcraft is his favorite Blizzard franchise, it isn't beyond the realm of possibility that the acting CEO and co-founder of Blizzard wants to use some of what they're making to try and take Starcraft to a new level.

Blizzard sponsoring eSports so that their own brand and title becomes even larger as a result? For basically pennies compared to their total annual revenue?

I understand the amount of money Blizzard makes. I don't see their investments in eSports being profitable. I don't see SC2 ever becoming what LoL is in Korea right now. I just think that they need to pull something else out of the hat if they want SC2 to succeed. A real foreign league (not tournament, league) has never been done before. I dunno, just something, something to bring the eSports fandom further without dumping it where it's not really wanted.


Oh no please, a foreigner league ? Average level, lot of bitching, players forfeiting left and right or showing up late. I would never pay a monthly fee for that.


SC2 doesn't need to be as big as LoL in order to be profitable. Starcraft stream numbers are ever growing, MLG had over 100,000 viewers max! The interest is there and I think it will still grow. HotS sold over a million copies in 2 days.

So, it may not be as big as LoL but still be a worthwile investment. I guess the 1.8 millions were for buying OGN off Kespa and stop OGN from returning to them.
Axiom wins more than it loses. Most viewers don't. - <3 TB
howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
March 25 2013 12:36 GMT
#196
On March 25 2013 21:16 See.Blue wrote:
As a nerd I hate any sort of change so I'm against this.

Hahaha this pretty much sums up the entire thread.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
March 25 2013 12:40 GMT
#197
On March 25 2013 15:59 Thrillz wrote:
Maybe this will answer why Rain got the seed, why MLG is getting rid of open bracket, and a plethora of other mysteries.

IT'S ALL COMING TOGETHER NOW.

Yes, I believe these are all connected.
Thinasy
Profile Joined March 2011
2856 Posts
March 25 2013 12:41 GMT
#198
On March 25 2013 21:36 schaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2013 18:14 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
On March 25 2013 18:11 Ruscour wrote:
On March 25 2013 17:45 Lunareste wrote:
On March 25 2013 17:30 Ruscour wrote:
I knew that LoL was demolishing SC2 in Korea but THIS bad...it's just sad. I can't see how this type of investment is sustainable for Blizzard, or how the scene can support the absolute wealth of progamers in Korea. I mean, 7 KeSPA teams and even more eSF teams? That's hundreds of progamers in a scene that really can't support it...


Why isn't that type of investment sustainable for Blizzard?

You do know that they make BILLIONS of dollars annually from World of Warcraft alone? Blizzard can make two in-game pets for Warcraft and generate the extra income to inject this type of money into whatever they want. Mike Morhaime has publicly stated that Starcraft is his favorite Blizzard franchise, it isn't beyond the realm of possibility that the acting CEO and co-founder of Blizzard wants to use some of what they're making to try and take Starcraft to a new level.

Blizzard sponsoring eSports so that their own brand and title becomes even larger as a result? For basically pennies compared to their total annual revenue?

I understand the amount of money Blizzard makes. I don't see their investments in eSports being profitable. I don't see SC2 ever becoming what LoL is in Korea right now. I just think that they need to pull something else out of the hat if they want SC2 to succeed. A real foreign league (not tournament, league) has never been done before. I dunno, just something, something to bring the eSports fandom further without dumping it where it's not really wanted.


Oh no please, a foreigner league ? Average level, lot of bitching, players forfeiting left and right or showing up late. I would never pay a monthly fee for that.


SC2 doesn't need to be as big as LoL in order to be profitable. Starcraft stream numbers are ever growing, MLG had over 100,000 viewers max! The interest is there and I think it will still grow. HotS sold over a million copies in 2 days.

So, it may not be as big as LoL but still be a worthwile investment. I guess the 1.8 millions were for buying OGN off Kespa and stop OGN from returning to them.


100k viewers isnt growing, since we had even more viewers in 2011 @ MLG's. Also this MLG was the first HotS MLG so ofc the viewercount will be higher, time will tell whether it stays this way or decreases again.
Jaedong & Faker
algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
March 25 2013 12:48 GMT
#199
I just hope it won't hurt the Proleague and the Kespa, I hate the GSTL format and I feel like the GSL is losing what made it so special in the early days of Sc2.
rly ?
Michaels
Profile Joined August 2010
419 Posts
March 25 2013 12:52 GMT
#200
I dont like GSTL, it is so lame
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