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On March 21 2013 06:20 caradoc wrote:YongHwa seems like a pretty gutsy captain choice, has the potential to pay off big or disappoint big imo, Good luck! he's the GSTL bonjwa, he's stacked up quite a few AK already.
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+ Show Spoiler +On March 21 2013 04:27 Greendotz wrote:The Euro-Peons Main Team4 Alicia3 Billowy(Lure)3 Ganzi7 Jjakji (captain) 4 RagnaroK3 Ruin4 sC3 TREME5 Incredible MiracleAnti Team6 Curious5 NAKSEO(Monster)3 Shine______________________ Very first time I’ve ever tried a fantasy league of any kind, so don't flame me too hard for any glaring mistakes Have to say I really wanted viOLet as my captain, but since the 36 point limit only really allows you to have one big hitter I had to go with Jjakji. NSH’s ace by a long way, at the very least he’s guaranteed to make multiple appearances. His score has the goldilocks effect of been just right, isn’t cheap, but also isn’t expensive when you consider his GSTL achievements. Ruin, Lure, Alicia and sC are all chosen around the fact that they play for teams who are playing in week 1 and Ruin is a guaranteed starter. I think Sc has a good chance to make a showing (if only for the fan-service). At 4 points I think he’s quite over-valued considering the likelihood that he’s been out of action the longest and could be quite rusty, if anything he’s good for trade value. Lure was picked because that was pretty much the only choice left when it came to picking an affordable MVP player, I also have a sneaky suspision that week 1 will be the week of PvP and PvT. Alicia is a wild card, never got a showing in the pre-season, but I believe in AXA! Also guaranteed starter is a bonus. That leaves Ganzi, RagnaroK and TREME. I’m honestly not sure about RagnaroK, he seems to be touted by everyone as the bargain of the start, but I wonder if the hype is real, or people are still looking through rose-tinted spectacles on the back of his pre-season performance. I’m expecting AZU to do very well in the GSTL over all, and plan to have a lot more of their players by the end. For now, I’ll settle for the incredibly cheap Ganzi, if he gains any appreciation he may be a great trading piece. TREME is literally just to make up the ST numbers, nothing else to say there. Picking IM as my team was probably the biggest hit to my points. There’s some method to my madness, plan to take the win from this week, then trade them out for AZU next week and hopefully cash in two wins on the trot. Of course if both those teams end up loosing then I’m off to a bad start :\ The anti-team, honestly I really don’t know. Curious was just a hedge if anything, ST aren’t playing in week 1 and 6 points gives me a lot of trading potential for week 2.”NAKSEO” was picked purely for the fact that he wins the award for dumbest new ID ever. Shine… meh, he’s Zerg and seems like a bleeder (in team leagues at least).
Now that I've had a little time to rethink it here's my revised team.
The Euro-Peons
Main Team 4 Alicia 3 Billowy(Lure) 3 Ganzi 7 Jjakji 4 RagnaroK 3 Ruin 3 TREME (captain) 7 viOLet 2 AxiomAcer
Anti Team 5 NAKSEO(Monster) 4 sC 4 Swagger(Killer)
sC to the Anti-team. Just makes more sense, likely to play (showcase a returning player), likely to fail if he does (long time out of action) and is in my opinion over-priced, useful for making up the anti-team points. Ultimately it’s a gamble, and there’s still trading potential when week 1 is done.
IM out, AXA in. This is to give me an extra 3 points, ultimately I think my whole IM --> AZU trade was a little over zealous. I’ll take the gamble that they’re cheap due to a poor pre-season showing.
Curious out, viOLet in. I did always want viOLet, he’s coming into replace Curious who was a pretty dumb choice anyway.
Swagger is now on my anti-team in the hope that he still has nightmares over that dismal GSL up and down performance he had (I know, I'm evil).
Also TREME is now the captain. Just seems like a player who will pick up the odd win so is worth keeping around but is unlikely to appreciate in value. Could come back to bite me, we’ll see.
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Submerged Majesty
Main Team 7 Jjakji (captain) 5 ByuN 4 Genius 5 Hurricane(Tear) 4 KeeN 3 Ruin 5 SuperNova 1 Zero 2 Prime
Anti Team 6 MC 4 Scarlett 3 SortOf
Prime looks to be by far the best team value (2 points for MKP, Byun, Maru, Creator?)
Jjakji as captain because he's basically guaranteed to play every week (It's doubtful NSH can win a match without him)
Ruin and Keen are my picks to win the first 2 starters. Keen I feel pretty comfortable with as he's a solid Terran for only 4 points. Ruin is a bit more risky. He has some quiet darkhorse hype to him (did well in IPL HotS qualifier and earned a starting spot over a stacked IM roster.) But I'm pretty much gambling on him winning so I can trade him later.
Imo Supernova and Genius are good bargains at 5 and 4, respectively, as they seemed to have transitioned to HotS pretty well and hold high spots on their team.
Hurricane was a good central teamleague player in Wings and holds a high win percentage in HotS....but really I just like his name. Byun will play often. (Prime has little depth/disparity in who they will send out). Zero because 1 point Zerg.
Anti=2 foreigner zergs +
MC. Not sure. Who do you guys think is the best pick for 6 point anti team?
Edit: Just realized I forgot to put TREME on my team! (He's shown good play in HotS thus far and is the definitive ST Protoss ace)
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Fiesta
Main Team 2 Avenge 5 ByuN 1 Emir(HogU) 9 Life 3 Lucky 7 MarineKing (captain) 4 Mvp 3 Noblesse 2 [tlpd#teams##sc2-korean]PRIME[/tlpd]
Anti Team 6 Curious 3 SortOf 4 Swagger(Killer)
Main team
I did not even realize it was 36 points for this round, so when I did I upgraded from AXA - Miya (3 points) to ST - Life (9 points). I already have enough ST players so variety in teams was cool but if I can have Life in my team I might as well do it!
A bit of fanboyism here for MKP captain, but I honestly believe he has the time to play at a very good level so he will be worth his captain seed. Prime as a team because they are cheap and most of their players are tearing up the ladder. I picked ByuN because he is a beast AND doing good on ladder and terran on hots, not too expensive, can't not take him. HogU because he did beat his teammates and a few other players in some qualif tourney, so he is one of the only 1 pointer with some kill potential.
As for Mvp, the greatest terran in WoL who is seemingly making a comeback on HotS is as cheap as Killer, one of the first koreans to lose to foreigners (well it was Select so not really foreigner)? That's indecent. Auto-pick, even though his health might not allow him to perform for 14 weeks straight his value is probably gonna up in the first weeks of the release.
Lucky, Noblesse and Avenge : Three good yet cheap players from different teams, can't miss them. I don't know how well Avenge performed on HotS but I remember his name so he must be decent. Lucky is opening vs IM and is relatively cheap, bringing FXO points.
Anti team
Swagger? Nuff said. (in all seriousness though, I think he is the Zenio of protoss, was doing okay in early sc2, but has reached his peak back then).
Curious was a relatively tough choice, most of the 5-6-7 pointers are good, so I'm gambling on the fact that Curious didn't have that much training because of the GSL final, and isn't gonna perform that great since zerg ain't doing so well on HotS. Plus Life has all-kill potential so they might not even send Curious, but rather Bomber or Hack or one of their protoss.
SortOf : I initially had TheBest because he doesn't seem very good, but I saw on some thread that he had like 70% winratio on the KR ladder, and terran is doing good on HotS so picking a foreigner zerg costing the same amount seems like the best deal. I think he will have playtime and BO prepared though, so it's kind of a risky but needed choice.
I didn't put as much thought in this Fantasy League as in FPL, because overthinking FL doesn't seem the right solution so I'll go with my gut and HotS is hard to predict especially in all-kill format. The high number of trades will allow me to adjust my team, if the majority of my players are doing as well as expected which should be the case.
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Why not?
Main Team 1 Aphrodite 3 Crank 6 MC (captain) 4 Mvp 3 NesTea 4 Seed 6 Sniper 5 YongHwa 4 [tlpd#teams##sc2-korean]AZUBU[/tlpd]
Anti Team 6 MMA 3 Super(Vampire) 4 Tassadar
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Besides Aphrodite, who I only picked cause shes hot, I just think this team is going to have a strong season. :D
Anti: I might change Vampire, but I don't believe MMA is going to have a good season, and I never see Tassadar play (Ill be honest that I don't watch it as much, so please help me if I should change that)
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SuperMegaFighting
Main Team 6 Bomber 4 Genius 4 Kangho(LosirA) 4 Mvp 3 NesTea 5 Squirtle (captain) 4 Sting 2 TOP 4 [tlpd#teams##sc2-korean]StarTale[/tlpd]
Anti Team 4 Tassadar 3 VINES 6 YoDa
I feel that Squirtle as captain will be a good choice due to being able to create new strategies for a game which is very unrefined atm, as well ass being picked up by LG-IM giving him one of the best practice environments. The others are picked based on good performance in the beginning of WoL, hopefully they'll be able to innovate again.
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AXA lolbad
Main Team 7 GuMiho 5 Hurricane(Tear) (captain) 1 madbull 7 MarineKing 5 Maru 2 SalvatioN 4 Seed 1 Tible(EllenKey) 4 [tlpd#teams##sc2-korean]FX Open[/tlpd]
Anti Team 3 Crank 6 MMA 4 Scarlett
Really depending on Axiom/Acer playing horribly. Gumiho and Tear should play every game for FXO when they need to deploy a terran or protoss ace. MKP and Maru will also play in every game for prime, hopefully bring in the points. Same goes for Seed in the team leagues. To finish of the team I picked a few 1-2 point players from the smaller teams to hope they pull off an upsets.
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I'm confident that those of us with Losira captaining our teams will be very happy with this season of fantasy
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Metamagnet
Main Team 5 Hurricane(Tear) (captain) 6 Sniper 5 ByuN 4 Genius 4 Mvp 4 Scarlett 3 TheBest 3 Miya 2 AxiomAcer
Anti Team 6 MC 4 Sting 4 Swagger(Killer)
My first attempt at making a team involved using less slots until I realized I had to fill everyone and was forced to find players with less point value.
Originally I had Creator as my player to represent Prime and I had to downgrade to Byun.
I wanted Gumiho to be the Terran for FXO but he had to be sacraficed so I can get more credible 3-4 pointers. Due to his ladder results and FXO's willingness to use him I've subbed in TheBest for Gumiho.
I choose both Sniper and Tear from the beginning.Tear is decent GSTL player from the past with really good ladder rankings for HOTS. FXO's Protoss lineup is limited enough that I think he will get played a lot. Sniper is the opposite of Tear. Little to no record in HOTS but impressive past results in different team leagues. As a secondary zerg to DRG it's either him or Monster and I'll err on the side of caution with the more expensive player.
MVP was a difficult choice to make. If he ever gets picked to play it will usually be if IM is in trouble. IM has a deep roster but the Terrans they can use in a clutch situation is more limited. Skillwise MVP is undervalued but relative to the opportunity of when he will get played the current value makes sense.
Choosing Genius, Scarlett & Miya was a question over picking them over the likes of Alicia, Ganzi, Top, San, Bbong and a few others. I'll probably regret picking both Zergs on Axiom but since I wanted to spread my talent pool around to different teams outside of NSH (they won't win) or Startale (too bloated to make an educated guess on who will be picked) I was finding a hard time choosing anybody else for the points available.
For teams only 2 teams made sense out of all of them. FXO is a great value at 4 points and Axiom seems like a quality pick at 2 points.
As for the anti-team my choice is kind dumb because I'm spreading my choice across 3 different teams instead of stacking it into one. Originally I was stacking my points into MVP because I expected DRG to carry them as usual but after looking more closely at past GSTLs I realized there's too many team league monsters in their lineup.
I'm taking a risk with MC. I expect him to be played the least out of the 3 multi-GSL champions. With IM's varied and deep protoss lineup there is barely any room for MC to be played.
Originally I had Tassadar on NSH on my anti-team and then I clued in on how much of GSTL beast he has been even without his former protoss buddies. He can't carry a team like DRG but he won't underperform relative to his point value. As a result I swapped in Sting instead. Killer just seems to be overvalued.
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Does anyone know if MVP is actually gonna play in GSTL? He often times doesn't play and is just there. Dunno if I should pick him up. D:
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On March 21 2013 10:31 ClairvoyanceSC2 wrote: Does anyone know if MVP is actually gonna play in GSTL? He often times doesn't play and is just there. Dunno if I should pick him up. D:
He was mostly put in when IM was getting wrecked and were down by 2-3 games in the past GSTLs, and even when he was sent out, he didn't play like individual league Mvp. IM coach also likes to play his up and comers and people who haven't had much stage experience in the team league.
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On March 21 2013 10:31 ClairvoyanceSC2 wrote: Does anyone know if MVP is actually gonna play in GSTL? He often times doesn't play and is just there. Dunno if I should pick him up. D:
Doubtful. The only chance he'll get is if IM could be in trouble vs a strong player, and even still. Then again, he doesn't have GSL to prepare anyone T.T so maybe. Mvp was actually a pretty good team player in the early GSTLs, and their ace player, but they are just so stacked right now.
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I feel it in my dick
Main Team 1 Bang 4 BboongBboong 6 Creator 6 Curious 1 Hell 6 MC (captain) 4 Mvp 3 NesTea 5 [tlpd#teams##sc2-korean]Incredible Miracle[/tlpd]
Anti Team 6 MMA 4 Scarlett 3 SortOf
Yes please, I will take 3 of the best overall WOL players MC/MVP/Nestea. Creator is always consistent and Prime's lineup is pretty bare so I think he's playing every single match and he tends to win a lot. I was between B4 and Seed and B4 had a higher ELO. Curious is top 3 ELO currently and only 6 pts so that was a nobrainer. Bang and Hell are basically just gambles that will probably not do anything but could pay off big, + I wanted some more broad team representation as I was favoring IM quite heavily.
My anti-team was easy. Two foreigners and a washed up has-been who hasn't been good since before the queen buff. I can see Scarlett going nuts and crushing some Korean face, but I'm not at all worried about SortOfAPatchZerg
I think right now balance goes like zerg>>>>protoss=terran>zerg. Nobody should ever lose a zvp currently, but tvp is fairly balanced and terran has a slight edge over zerg.
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