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Kanaz
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark658 Posts
March 20 2013 17:19 GMT
#41
How are you dealing with oracle openings from P ?
Lost a couple of games to both 1 oracle, or 3-4 oracle push.
I had bunker up + mines, but mines attacked the zealots and bunker melted in seconds to the oracles. The P did a expo a little later than yours, into 3gate stargate.
HTOMario
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States439 Posts
March 20 2013 17:22 GMT
#42
On March 21 2013 00:41 freerolll wrote:
thanks man im downloading them at the moment! I have watched your stream a couple of times and I think I have your stream on follow I realy didnt know you were from belgium


Yeah I left it when I was young but can still speak / write most of it.
GM Mech T
XXIVDCI
Profile Joined July 2012
United States12 Posts
March 20 2013 17:38 GMT
#43
Thank you for sharing, looking forward to studying your games. Any match you recommend studying for TvP?
When ahead, get more ahead
HTOMario
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States439 Posts
March 20 2013 19:36 GMT
#44
On March 21 2013 02:38 XXIVDCI wrote:
Thank you for sharing, looking forward to studying your games. Any match you recommend studying for TvP?


They all have very close openings, I couldn't pick on specifically ^^
GM Mech T
gaymon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1023 Posts
March 20 2013 20:30 GMT
#45
HTOMARIO, i just played 2 games TVZ with your strat (I'm protoss normally) and they took me a combined 180 minutes, should i just midgame push or wait it out ? (I won in the end but it was quite taxing)

Also could u post what u think is the best latelategame army ?

I had a couple of thors/ravens/bc's/tanks and quite some vikings.
HTOMario
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States439 Posts
March 20 2013 20:54 GMT
#46
On March 21 2013 05:30 gaymon wrote:
HTOMARIO, i just played 2 games TVZ with your strat (I'm protoss normally) and they took me a combined 180 minutes, should i just midgame push or wait it out ? (I won in the end but it was quite taxing)

Also could u post what u think is the best latelategame army ?

I had a couple of thors/ravens/bc's/tanks and quite some vikings.


You can start mid game pushing as long as they don't have broodlords. You want a few thors, 10 or so tanks, lots of mines, few vikings and lots of ravens.
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Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
March 20 2013 21:04 GMT
#47
fuck yeah, gonna analyze this shit. i've always liked mech a lot more than bio and HotS should make it better imo, especially against Protoss.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
KaibaCorp
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada9 Posts
March 20 2013 21:06 GMT
#48
Thank you so much! Hopefully we'll get to see more in the future!
If you want to make one goal to win you must lose - WhiteRa
YyapSsap
Profile Joined September 2010
New Zealand1511 Posts
March 20 2013 21:12 GMT
#49
Btw what maps do you have vetoed?
Dvriel
Profile Joined November 2011
607 Posts
March 20 2013 21:47 GMT
#50
I just watched 2 of your TvP and only can say: LOL!!! You have changed your style a lot and I like it A LOT!!! I will post some of my replays.My unit composition is pretty much the same as yours,but my openings are different.

Your Hellion harass is incredible!!! I dont understand why arent you researching BFH.You will kill much more workers than usual(88!! in one of your games LOL).I see ghosts are not a MUST for you and its because of your harass and great macro.I can see you making another Armory and upgrading armor as well.You always got the money to do it,so I hope to see it in your future games.I will keep following you.

GG

My replays are here:


http://drop.sc/309419
http://drop.sc/311413
http://drop.sc/311414
http://drop.sc/311415
http://drop.sc/311416

zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
March 20 2013 23:41 GMT
#51
you left a lot of your team games in the replay pack too >___<

but interesting replays for the 1's~...
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
HTOMario
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States439 Posts
March 21 2013 00:34 GMT
#52
On March 21 2013 08:41 zhurai wrote:
you left a lot of your team games in the replay pack too >___<

but interesting replays for the 1's~...



Sorry I thought I deleted them all
GM Mech T
HTOMario
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States439 Posts
March 21 2013 03:38 GMT
#53
On March 21 2013 06:12 YyapSsap wrote:
Btw what maps do you have vetoed?


I have daybreak LE, korhal city and neo planet S LE voted out

I was hoping some of you could check the audio on this video, I heard a lot of things about the mic not working properly or something but it worked fine for me. Hopefully i fixed it. I would really appreciate the feedback on just this one video.

GM Mech T
reconcrap
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore10 Posts
March 21 2013 05:18 GMT
#54
I really like your tvp mech opening, it gives terran the map control for mech play but I wonder how do u deal with blink all ins and proxy immortal bust. I tried getting 3 bunkers and still die to both.
Azurues
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia5612 Posts
March 21 2013 07:22 GMT
#55
how to safely secure mech plays against terran players that goes for pure bio built?

i just can't get up to perfect 3 base macro against bio terran as he is dropping everywhere.

Missile turrets are useful but they still drop units.

any replays/vods that sees terran does such things to u and u defend it nicely? :D

anyway, diamond korean terran here =/
Everlong
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1973 Posts
March 21 2013 08:01 GMT
#56
Yes, I have problems with both blink allin and TvT vs Bio where he drops even if I have turrets.

For blink Stalkers:

To me it seems like blink allin requires you to change your build a bit (like extra rax, few bunkers, building placement, etc..). I have some success going for fast 2nd Factory and get out 1-2 Tanks immidiately, then you need few mines/hellions/marines to dance around, but do not rely on mines too much, you need them to deny Stalkers just sniping your Tanks. He is just going to pick them off as soon as his observers arrives if you place them to far from your static defense. Now the worst part is, I have no idea, when this allin stops and when he expands or not. I guess I can send 1-2 hellions to his natural, but those are usually caught by Stalkers with blink. Or I can just scan, but since I try to snipe observers and mule to get extra minerals for defense, I find myself without orbital energy at all.

vs Bio TvT:

I actually think it might be good idea to sacrifice 4-8 supply for defense with Mines in addition to Missile Turrets. In such case, you probably don't even need Sensor Tower at all. Once you defended few drops, you might just grab everything and go kill him, but I'm not sure.
Dvriel
Profile Joined November 2011
607 Posts
March 21 2013 09:23 GMT
#57
I played this style in the BETA and we posted a lot about it.Mario was going for Hellbat,Thor,BAnshee,Raven and BCs skipping tanks.I feel happy,he finally discovered and proved TANKS ARE GOOD IN TVP!!! The games he lost in the replay pack are vs heavy Immoral/Archon/Zealot beacuse of the lack of ghosts and their EMPs.

Anyways I find his opening not too safe and difficult to execute for lower leagues.It requires a lot of micro and harass early game,while macroing.He does it perfectly,but we Platinum and Diamond players wont be able to do it maybe.It depends of his enemies as well and at that level Protosses arent so good but Immortal bust or Blink would be an issue I think.You will die,before your medivac reach the enemys base.I tried many BO in the BETA trying to prepare for everything: Oracle,DT,Blink,Immortal,Void ray,Xgate,proxy gate,2 base Collosi..

Thats why I open Reaper to scout the enemy and try guess what is he going for.The 9SCV scout is for cheese and proxies and if I scout 2 gas early(almos every game now because of early DTs and Oracles) I go ebay as soon as possible and turret in mineral line.Building an ebay to block their natural is nice idea as well and so you can scout their expansion timing or not and prepare for all in.The reactor after reaper helps you make non stop marines and building bunkers you can defend everything.The Factory after reactor+lab and tank building help a lot vs Blink because of the splash.Add marines and bunkers and you got it all.Even immortals will suffer to bust you with 4-5 tanks and 3 full bunkers.

The TvT drops with turret rings are almost imossible to stop.Turrets kill medivacs,but a good player will scan and use the speedvacs to drop far from the turrets in middle of your base sniping important buildings.The best way for me are widow mines and Sensor Towers.150 100 for a Tower is much better than 700 for turret rings and you sitll get dropped.If you are going mech build Vikings and send them,as well as the Hellions.Your buildings will produce units,so u may see 2-3 tanks popping out the moment the BIO player drop,so you can defend with them too.
Stow.Wif
Profile Joined April 2011
France67 Posts
March 21 2013 10:22 GMT
#58
On March 21 2013 12:38 HTOMario wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2013 06:12 YyapSsap wrote:
Btw what maps do you have vetoed?


I have daybreak LE, korhal city and neo planet S LE voted out

I was hoping some of you could check the audio on this video, I heard a lot of things about the mic not working properly or something but it worked fine for me. Hopefully i fixed it. I would really appreciate the feedback on just this one video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_ZSndFAX9w&feature=youtu.be


The video is great. Sound is fine.
TRpredator
Profile Joined March 2012
Russian Federation101 Posts
March 21 2013 10:25 GMT
#59
Thx for the replay pack.
Btw I think it would be for the best to divide replays on match ups to simplify search for the desired game you wish to study.
Dvriel
Profile Joined November 2011
607 Posts
March 21 2013 10:28 GMT
#60
On March 21 2013 19:25 TRpredator wrote:
Thx for the replay pack.
Btw I think it would be for the best to divide replays on match ups to simplify search for the desired game you wish to study.



Same here.I was watching the replays and its hard to find only TvT or TvP but finally,bit a bit I got it.

The video is OK.Nothing wrong.Keep doing this great job.I hope some Pros go and try this,so we can see it on real high Pro level...
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