• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 07:13
CET 13:13
KST 21:13
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Dark completes military service, returns to SC27[BSL23] RO16 Group Stage17Weekly Cups (Nov 2-8): herO back on top?2Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175
StarCraft 2
General
No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Dark completes military service, returns to SC2 Greetings.. Serral's getting trashed by New Catsle's Mind Weekly Cups (Nov 2-8): herO back on top?
Tourneys
Dark returns! GSL CK #7 4v4 Team Battle (Nov 19) Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) soO & FanTaSy return! SC2 Kevin Scrim 4v4 (Nov 16) RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 Tasteless Time Warp: SC Evo Showmatch (May 25)
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps Starcraft 2 Advance [D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 551 Robotic Revival Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles
Brood War
General
Starcraft player cRuZa Passed away. Starcraft:Brood War Discord Servers List of top players active on ShieldBattery Recommended BW Settings for Mouse and Video BW General Discussion
Tourneys
2v2v2v2 Tournament Stage 1: Community Poll [BSL23] Ro16 Group C - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0 CSLAN 4 is Coming!
Strategy
Pluto's TvP 5Marine 2Medic Push Infested Terran strategies in 2026 Nuke strategy worked in K-League 2026-11-09 50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22
Other Games
General Games
Free Space RTS Game, optimised f. Phone/Tablet etc Nintendo Switch Thread List of Game Threads The PlayStation 5 Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Can Game Data Analytics Help Players Improvements
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Dating: How's your luck?
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Football (Soccer) Thread MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
VCT 2027 America Kickoff LAT…
anakin.
The time I organised my…
AssyrianKing
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 13394 users

EG releases Ho Joon “PuMa” Lee - Page 5

Forum Index > SC2 General
718 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 34 35 36 Next All
Phrilly
Profile Joined June 2011
46 Posts
March 15 2013 05:44 GMT
#81
Does this now open for door for Alive? Could be a solid addition.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
March 15 2013 05:44 GMT
#82
Cutting the fat. It's really weird though how badly PuMa's play has devolved. Comparing his play from now and his NASL debut, PuMa's age becomes really apparent.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
March 15 2013 05:45 GMT
#83
Totally sucks. Been a Puma fan since NASL season 1

Find a new team, please.
yawnoC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States3704 Posts
March 15 2013 05:46 GMT
#84
Sucks that PuMa is out now

Hopefully this move allows EG to pick up to players because honestly they need as many bodies as possible to be successful in korea.
GG - UNiVeRsE is the best player in the WORLD
Nerski
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1095 Posts
March 15 2013 05:46 GMT
#85
Is this the first time EG released a player due to poor results?


There is a laundry list of players they released because they didn't amount to much in the way of results or PR.
Twitter: @GoForNerski /// Youtube: Youtube.com/nerskisc
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
March 15 2013 05:46 GMT
#86
big moves from eg lately. lets hope it turns around egtl in proleague. really cheering for em in the 2nd half.
I now have autographs of both BoxeR and NaDa. I can die happy. Lim Yo Hwan and Lee Yun Yeol FIGHTING forever!
IronL
Profile Joined January 2012
United States34 Posts
March 15 2013 05:46 GMT
#87
I think we could see a return to form from Puma if he can get back into kespa team house, I feel like if they had given this another couple of months we would have seen Puma flourish again with Coach Park at the helm.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-15 05:47:25
March 15 2013 05:47 GMT
#88
On March 15 2013 14:42 Random_0 wrote:
It is a surprise to me to see EG behave like a "pro" team, and to release Puma based on a combination of underperformance and value (like an NFL team, or an MLB team would act.)

It's particularly a surprise because Team Liquid, my favorite foreigner team, has remained loyalty to players like Nony and TLO even when they weren't performing at the highest levels.

Why is this? Why do some SC2 teams keep players based on performance and others based on loyalty?


Did you read the part where EG said they offered him a contract but it wasn't as good as his old one and he declined so they parted ways? So yeah they didn't kick him.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-15 05:50:47
March 15 2013 05:47 GMT
#89
Thats a very big wall of text for someone that haven't performed in the last year and a half.
Thanks for OP to bold out the important part.

I didn't know that they paid him that much but then again one of their most paid korean players.
They only got JD and Revival thats not Puma, no doubt that JD have a big check but Revival being less paid then Puma?
EG sure doesn't know how to negotiate ^^

And I wonder if anyone is looking to pick him up, who would want a bad korean player?

Edit: It's going to be very interesting now in Proleague and if EG wants to pick up another player.
Maybe they even push Liquid for another pickup?
The curse is real
Swordland
Profile Joined March 2013
232 Posts
March 15 2013 05:48 GMT
#90
Sigh...... GL puma
SamanthaRain
Profile Joined January 2013
United States37 Posts
March 15 2013 05:48 GMT
#91
On March 15 2013 14:18 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2013 14:16 ixzenxi wrote:
Sad to hear but hope he gets picked up by another team and see him do well again.

Is this the first time EG released a player due to poor results?


They didn't kick him. Read the ending and they said they offered him less salary and some less event times which he didn't want so they decided to let him go.


That's basically kicking him out... I mean, what's the point of being on EG if you're not going to get paid any more than being on Mouz or Eclypsia?
Nerski
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1095 Posts
March 15 2013 05:49 GMT
#92
On March 15 2013 14:42 Random_0 wrote:
It is a surprise to me to see EG behave like a "pro" team, and to release Puma based on a combination of underperformance and value (like an NFL team, or an MLB team would act.)

It's particularly a surprise because Team Liquid, my favorite foreigner team, has remained loyalty to players like Nony and TLO even when they weren't performing at the highest levels.

Why is this? Why do some SC2 teams keep players based on performance and others based on loyalty?


All depends on what a team is looking to get out of the players and how loyal they can afford to be. Obviously with guys like nony he wasn't breaking their bank account so they could afford to be loyal. TLO is a huge draw from an eyeballs standpoint much like an incontrol on EG even if TLO doesn't do as many shows etc.
Twitter: @GoForNerski /// Youtube: Youtube.com/nerskisc
Hrrrrm
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2081 Posts
March 15 2013 05:50 GMT
#93
Will be interesting to see where Puma goes from here. Doubt he'll get more exposure anywhere else. Hell, just being on EG(taking whatever their offer was) and streaming consistently would've probably made him more money than whatever team he ends up going to. I wish him well but I honestly hope he had some offers lined up and just didn't go out there with nothing. He might be in for a very rude awakening.
alot = a lot (TWO WORDS)
Champi
Profile Joined March 2010
1422 Posts
March 15 2013 05:51 GMT
#94
deffinitely makes sense although its always sad to see such a team part ways with a player who played such and important role for the team.

GL to PuMa, perhaps he can be picked up by another eSF team
phuzi0n
Profile Joined April 2010
United States308 Posts
March 15 2013 05:52 GMT
#95
EG-TL is going to need to expand their roster, they barely have enough to make a team at all and that leaves little room for injuries or to pick the right players for the right maps and such.
jubil
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2602 Posts
March 15 2013 05:52 GMT
#96
Feel like EG is willing to play the villain in this case, titling the news "EG releases Puma" gives the implication they're kicking him

From a management standpoint though, it makes perfect sense that a player with Puma's current record shouldn't be paid the same amount as a player with Puma's record during his highest period, and honestly if Puma couldn't accept that he doesn't deserve as high of a salary now as he did when he was strong (dominating, really), it's just as much his fault that he's no longer on EG.

I don't really care one way or the other for EG, but I am a fan of Alex Garfield, honest guy
Marineking-Polt-Maru-Fantasy-Solar-Xenocider-Suppy fighting!
BilltownRunner
Profile Joined July 2010
United States229 Posts
March 15 2013 05:53 GMT
#97
Wow, this is really unexpected. Puma was always been one of my favorite players on EG. Best of luck wherever you land, Puma. Puma fighting ~!
MaStA_YOdA
Profile Joined September 2011
Austria6 Posts
March 15 2013 05:55 GMT
#98
I am just thinking what the reason is that the contract of Puma was not extended, but a player like machine is still in their roster. Both players are not able to perform as well as expected. The main reason is probably as Alex already mentioned in his announcement, the amount of salery the player is receiving. Sad to see Puma leave. Good luck in future Puma!
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
March 15 2013 05:55 GMT
#99
Only 355 pages to go before we can match the 'Puma joins EG' thread!
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
March 15 2013 05:57 GMT
#100
Wow, too bad for PuMa. Fair decision though, no doubt.
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 34 35 36 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 47m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech179
Codebar 90
SHIN 11
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 5716
Rain 2066
Hyuk 667
Jaedong 512
EffOrt 504
BeSt 481
Mini 243
Rush 220
Larva 205
Light 185
[ Show more ]
Stork 175
FanTaSy 155
firebathero 130
ggaemo 120
Hyun 114
Mind 109
Snow 106
Pusan 104
Leta 99
Killer 56
hero 53
soO 43
JYJ 41
Bale 35
Sea.KH 34
Creator 31
Mong 24
Shinee 24
sorry 24
ToSsGirL 23
Hm[arnc] 19
sOs 18
Aegong 17
Sacsri 17
ZergMaN 17
Classic 16
zelot 16
Movie 14
scan(afreeca) 14
yabsab 13
ajuk12(nOOB) 10
Terrorterran 3
Counter-Strike
fl0m3730
olofmeister769
Other Games
summit1g9496
singsing1691
FrodaN1567
B2W.Neo792
Lowko305
crisheroes225
XaKoH 218
Fuzer 158
KnowMe132
byalli97
Mew2King53
ViBE44
CosmosSc2 5
Railgan2
Organizations
StarCraft 2
angryscii 22
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• ChaeLyn 6
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV397
League of Legends
• Jankos2423
Upcoming Events
OSC
1h 47m
OSC
11h 17m
ByuN vs MaxPax
herO vs Krystianer
Percival vs Shameless
LetaleX vs YoungYakov
Nicoract vs Gerald
GgMaChine vs ArT
CranKy Ducklings
21h 47m
WardiTV Invitational
23h 47m
ByuN vs SHIN
MaxPax vs Solar
Clem vs TBD
herO vs TBD
Lambo vs TBD
Rogue vs TBD
IPSL
1d 4h
TerrOr vs IJ_Terran
rasowy vs Hazorath
BSL
1d 7h
TerrOr vs OyAji
UltrA vs Gosudark
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 21h
WardiTV Invitational
1d 23h
IPSL
2 days
Art_Of_Turtle vs KameZerg
Radley vs George
BSL
2 days
Artosis vs Dewalt
Ret vs Tech
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Weekly
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
PiGosaur Cup
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
GSL
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
KCM Race Survival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-12
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
Individual League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026

Upcoming

YSL S4
Sector 591
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
StarCraft2 Weekly Open Tournament 2026 Grand Finals
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Underdog Cup 2026 Div 2-3
PGL Bucharest 2027
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.