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EG releases Ho Joon “PuMa” Lee - Page 5

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Phrilly
Profile Joined June 2011
46 Posts
March 15 2013 05:44 GMT
#81
Does this now open for door for Alive? Could be a solid addition.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
March 15 2013 05:44 GMT
#82
Cutting the fat. It's really weird though how badly PuMa's play has devolved. Comparing his play from now and his NASL debut, PuMa's age becomes really apparent.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
March 15 2013 05:45 GMT
#83
Totally sucks. Been a Puma fan since NASL season 1

Find a new team, please.
yawnoC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States3704 Posts
March 15 2013 05:46 GMT
#84
Sucks that PuMa is out now

Hopefully this move allows EG to pick up to players because honestly they need as many bodies as possible to be successful in korea.
GG - UNiVeRsE is the best player in the WORLD
Nerski
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1095 Posts
March 15 2013 05:46 GMT
#85
Is this the first time EG released a player due to poor results?


There is a laundry list of players they released because they didn't amount to much in the way of results or PR.
Twitter: @GoForNerski /// Youtube: Youtube.com/nerskisc
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
March 15 2013 05:46 GMT
#86
big moves from eg lately. lets hope it turns around egtl in proleague. really cheering for em in the 2nd half.
I now have autographs of both BoxeR and NaDa. I can die happy. Lim Yo Hwan and Lee Yun Yeol FIGHTING forever!
IronL
Profile Joined January 2012
United States34 Posts
March 15 2013 05:46 GMT
#87
I think we could see a return to form from Puma if he can get back into kespa team house, I feel like if they had given this another couple of months we would have seen Puma flourish again with Coach Park at the helm.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-15 05:47:25
March 15 2013 05:47 GMT
#88
On March 15 2013 14:42 Random_0 wrote:
It is a surprise to me to see EG behave like a "pro" team, and to release Puma based on a combination of underperformance and value (like an NFL team, or an MLB team would act.)

It's particularly a surprise because Team Liquid, my favorite foreigner team, has remained loyalty to players like Nony and TLO even when they weren't performing at the highest levels.

Why is this? Why do some SC2 teams keep players based on performance and others based on loyalty?


Did you read the part where EG said they offered him a contract but it wasn't as good as his old one and he declined so they parted ways? So yeah they didn't kick him.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-15 05:50:47
March 15 2013 05:47 GMT
#89
Thats a very big wall of text for someone that haven't performed in the last year and a half.
Thanks for OP to bold out the important part.

I didn't know that they paid him that much but then again one of their most paid korean players.
They only got JD and Revival thats not Puma, no doubt that JD have a big check but Revival being less paid then Puma?
EG sure doesn't know how to negotiate ^^

And I wonder if anyone is looking to pick him up, who would want a bad korean player?

Edit: It's going to be very interesting now in Proleague and if EG wants to pick up another player.
Maybe they even push Liquid for another pickup?
The curse is real
Swordland
Profile Joined March 2013
232 Posts
March 15 2013 05:48 GMT
#90
Sigh...... GL puma
SamanthaRain
Profile Joined January 2013
United States37 Posts
March 15 2013 05:48 GMT
#91
On March 15 2013 14:18 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2013 14:16 ixzenxi wrote:
Sad to hear but hope he gets picked up by another team and see him do well again.

Is this the first time EG released a player due to poor results?


They didn't kick him. Read the ending and they said they offered him less salary and some less event times which he didn't want so they decided to let him go.


That's basically kicking him out... I mean, what's the point of being on EG if you're not going to get paid any more than being on Mouz or Eclypsia?
Nerski
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1095 Posts
March 15 2013 05:49 GMT
#92
On March 15 2013 14:42 Random_0 wrote:
It is a surprise to me to see EG behave like a "pro" team, and to release Puma based on a combination of underperformance and value (like an NFL team, or an MLB team would act.)

It's particularly a surprise because Team Liquid, my favorite foreigner team, has remained loyalty to players like Nony and TLO even when they weren't performing at the highest levels.

Why is this? Why do some SC2 teams keep players based on performance and others based on loyalty?


All depends on what a team is looking to get out of the players and how loyal they can afford to be. Obviously with guys like nony he wasn't breaking their bank account so they could afford to be loyal. TLO is a huge draw from an eyeballs standpoint much like an incontrol on EG even if TLO doesn't do as many shows etc.
Twitter: @GoForNerski /// Youtube: Youtube.com/nerskisc
Hrrrrm
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2081 Posts
March 15 2013 05:50 GMT
#93
Will be interesting to see where Puma goes from here. Doubt he'll get more exposure anywhere else. Hell, just being on EG(taking whatever their offer was) and streaming consistently would've probably made him more money than whatever team he ends up going to. I wish him well but I honestly hope he had some offers lined up and just didn't go out there with nothing. He might be in for a very rude awakening.
alot = a lot (TWO WORDS)
Champi
Profile Joined March 2010
1422 Posts
March 15 2013 05:51 GMT
#94
deffinitely makes sense although its always sad to see such a team part ways with a player who played such and important role for the team.

GL to PuMa, perhaps he can be picked up by another eSF team
phuzi0n
Profile Joined April 2010
United States308 Posts
March 15 2013 05:52 GMT
#95
EG-TL is going to need to expand their roster, they barely have enough to make a team at all and that leaves little room for injuries or to pick the right players for the right maps and such.
jubil
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2602 Posts
March 15 2013 05:52 GMT
#96
Feel like EG is willing to play the villain in this case, titling the news "EG releases Puma" gives the implication they're kicking him

From a management standpoint though, it makes perfect sense that a player with Puma's current record shouldn't be paid the same amount as a player with Puma's record during his highest period, and honestly if Puma couldn't accept that he doesn't deserve as high of a salary now as he did when he was strong (dominating, really), it's just as much his fault that he's no longer on EG.

I don't really care one way or the other for EG, but I am a fan of Alex Garfield, honest guy
Marineking-Polt-Maru-Fantasy-Solar-Xenocider-Suppy fighting!
BilltownRunner
Profile Joined July 2010
United States229 Posts
March 15 2013 05:53 GMT
#97
Wow, this is really unexpected. Puma was always been one of my favorite players on EG. Best of luck wherever you land, Puma. Puma fighting ~!
MaStA_YOdA
Profile Joined September 2011
Austria6 Posts
March 15 2013 05:55 GMT
#98
I am just thinking what the reason is that the contract of Puma was not extended, but a player like machine is still in their roster. Both players are not able to perform as well as expected. The main reason is probably as Alex already mentioned in his announcement, the amount of salery the player is receiving. Sad to see Puma leave. Good luck in future Puma!
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
March 15 2013 05:55 GMT
#99
Only 355 pages to go before we can match the 'Puma joins EG' thread!
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
March 15 2013 05:57 GMT
#100
Wow, too bad for PuMa. Fair decision though, no doubt.
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
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