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EG releases Ho Joon “PuMa” Lee - Page 7

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mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
March 15 2013 06:12 GMT
#121
Hmm..so performance actually matters on EG? Or just Puma? Since we don`t know the salary of other players I can only assume the other under performers took a pay cut as well (assuming this just isn`t a puma thing)
recklessfire
Profile Joined September 2010
United States373 Posts
March 15 2013 06:12 GMT
#122
On March 15 2013 15:07 kKagari wrote:
You know, I just don't get it. If Puma was underperforming, what does that make incontrol and idra?


they represent EG much more better than most players. They both huge fan clubs and bring more exposure to the brand rather than some of their fellow teammates, for instance, JYP. Not saying hes a bad player, but we only see him at tourneys. Incontrol and idra have huge fan clubs because they aren't shy like most of the sc2 players (not just koreans). They are all a variety of shows and always seem to have a presence in most of the NA tourneys. For example, when idra/incontrol commentated at the NASL finals in canada. Or incontrol commentated/hosted dreamhack. They get face time and thats much more valuable than the limited showing we get of JYP.
aLt_F4tw
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada47 Posts
March 15 2013 06:12 GMT
#123
oh how the mighty have fallen...
I'm sure he'll find work, hes a great player. Many teams will be giving him a call.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
March 15 2013 06:13 GMT
#124
EGMKRC inc.
Beau_Monde
Profile Joined July 2012
10 Posts
March 15 2013 06:13 GMT
#125
Good luck to puma hopefully Azubu will pick him up
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
March 15 2013 06:14 GMT
#126
On March 15 2013 15:13 sitromit wrote:
EGMKRC inc.

Don't you dare.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
March 15 2013 06:15 GMT
#127
Since PuMa isn't big on his extra-game duties, and he wasn't showing results, this comes as a logical decision by EG. I'm sure PuMa finds it a bit unfair, but that's normal with this type of situation.

The problem with him is he was overhyped. I feel kinda sad for him, he seems like a guy that really wants some big stage but just can't break through. If I were him, I think I'd just retire.
partydude89
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1850 Posts
March 15 2013 06:16 GMT
#128
its so sad to see him go. but hopefully this means that EG is planning on picking up another korean terran. Alive perhaps?
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EpicTsunami
Profile Joined December 2011
39 Posts
March 15 2013 06:16 GMT
#129
So, they realeased PuMa becouse of lack of results.

Can someone tell my why Machine is still in their roster?
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
March 15 2013 06:17 GMT
#130
On March 15 2013 15:14 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2013 15:13 sitromit wrote:
EGMKRC inc.

Don't you dare.

Kekekeke :p

kubiks
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1328 Posts
March 15 2013 06:18 GMT
#131
On March 15 2013 15:16 EpicTsunami wrote:
So, they realeased PuMa becouse of lack of results.

Can someone tell my why Machine is still in their roster?


They are too afraid to realease Idra by accident, they don't manage to distinguish them
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dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-15 06:21:27
March 15 2013 06:18 GMT
#132
On March 15 2013 15:12 mango_destroyer wrote:
Hmm..so performance actually matters on EG? Or just Puma? Since we don`t know the salary of other players I can only assume the other under performers took a pay cut as well (assuming this just isn`t a puma thing)

Under performers might take a pay cut later on, but not until it's time to re-negotiate contracts. Usually you can't just issue a pay cut in the middle of a contract period unless:
1. Reasons to cut pay are already outlined in the contract, and one of those reasons pop up.
2. It's an extreme situation that's not explicitly covered in the contract, but may be covered implicitly

Puma's contract probably ran out and they failed to re-negotiate a favorable contract.
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kKagari
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia84 Posts
March 15 2013 06:21 GMT
#133
On March 15 2013 15:12 recklessfire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2013 15:07 kKagari wrote:
You know, I just don't get it. If Puma was underperforming, what does that make incontrol and idra?


they represent EG much more better than most players. They both huge fan clubs and bring more exposure to the brand rather than some of their fellow teammates, for instance, JYP. Not saying hes a bad player, but we only see him at tourneys. Incontrol and idra have huge fan clubs because they aren't shy like most of the sc2 players (not just koreans). They are all a variety of shows and always seem to have a presence in most of the NA tourneys. For example, when idra/incontrol commentated at the NASL finals in canada. Or incontrol commentated/hosted dreamhack. They get face time and thats much more valuable than the limited showing we get of JYP.


I get the brand recognition thing, but you still have to prove you're good. I mean, if I was on EG and they hyped me up with ads and screen time, then when it came to playing I'm bronze material, I'd just be representing the brand negatively.
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
March 15 2013 06:21 GMT
#134
My gut reaction was to call massive bullshit on releasing Puma before any of their under performing foreign players, but after reading the reasoning, I guess its fair. EG is paying Puma too much for the results he's putting forth. I wonder if Kespa teams will do the same for former BW legends who are under performing in SC2(Bisu, I'm calling you out!)?
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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
March 15 2013 06:21 GMT
#135
Machine does tons of commercials, lives in the EG house in America, and probably was not getting a big of salary as Puma.

When Puma was first signed by EG, he had won NASL and was seen as a future Code S powerhouse. Almost two years later, and he is statistically the worst Proleague player and has never made Code A. No one should be surprised EG gave him a much smaller contract. Puma declined and will probably try to join a foreign team. Since Puma lives in Korea and isn't a personality that does commercials, EG's biggest goal right now in Korea is to be competitive in Proleague. Puma was not doing much wins wise.

Puma seems like a cool dude, but he didn't pan out when it came to expectations. Did well in foreign tournaments, but even those were almost a year ago.
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My_Fake_Plastic_Luv
Profile Joined March 2010
United States257 Posts
March 15 2013 06:22 GMT
#136
this seems really weird to me... that the korean player is held to a higher standard that the american and euro (white) players...racist?... i understand machine and incontrol and even idra are good branding for EG, but I think the community views them as lackluster/even jokes when it comes to pro-level play. Anyone else thinks this seems racist or discriminatory?
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UnKooL
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1667 Posts
March 15 2013 06:23 GMT
#137
On March 15 2013 15:17 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2013 15:14 ZenithM wrote:
On March 15 2013 15:13 sitromit wrote:
EGMKRC inc.

Don't you dare.

Kekekeke :p


My god, that would be terrible. I would not like that at all.
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Krogan
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden375 Posts
March 15 2013 06:25 GMT
#138
On March 15 2013 14:15 ne4aJIb wrote:
That's very sad. I thought they could give him a chance, since the HOTS release.


Having a major change like that can also highlight that someone isn't putting in the hours and the effort to evolve in the new game.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
March 15 2013 06:25 GMT
#139
On March 15 2013 15:22 My_Fake_Plastic_Luv wrote:
this seems really weird to me... that the korean player is held to a higher standard that the american and euro (white) players...racist?... i understand machine and incontrol and even idra are good branding for EG, but I think the community views them as lackluster/even jokes when it comes to pro-level play. Anyone else thinks this seems racist or discriminatory?

no. i think it should be obvious at this point that EG is mostly, if not solely, concerned with making as much money as possible (a pretty reasonable goal for a company), and Puma hasn't been of much value to them in a long time. he doesn't bring in a lot of publicity and he hasn't been doing well in competition either. the americans you mentioned obviously don't bring in any results (duh, they are american and not Scarlett/like 3 other people), but they offer a lot of publicity like you said. EG also stated that Puma had a big salary, so he must have earned at least more than Machine and probably Incontrol.
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ardi
Profile Joined February 2012
United States187 Posts
March 15 2013 06:26 GMT
#140
So he becomes a UFA?
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