EPTEG releases Ho Joon “PuMa” Lee - Page 8
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Csong
Canada396 Posts
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Sejanus
Lithuania550 Posts
Anyone else thinks this seems racist or discriminatory? No, not even close. From what the official statement said, and from what people pointed to in this thread, I don't see no single reason to call this racism. | ||
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dabom88
United States3483 Posts
On March 15 2013 15:12 mango_destroyer wrote: Hmm..so performance actually matters on EG? Or just Puma? Since we don`t know the salary of other players I can only assume the other under performers took a pay cut as well (assuming this just isn`t a puma thing) Also, I believe Scoots talked about this before. EG, and most e-sports teams in general, judge on both results AND brand/sponsor exposure. Ideally, a player would have both, but that is not always the case. Take players like Idra and Incontrol. Not the very best, but they both are very active members of the community. They both go on a lot of e-sports shows, do a lot of interviews, and stream. At all of these they mention their Sponsors, generating exposure. Say what you want about their personalities, but guys Idra and Incontrol do have big followings, which are good for sponsors. As long as you're continuously exposing the brand and sponsors in some way, you don't necessarily have to win every tournament. On the other hand, we have guys like Puma who were results-based. Winning tournaments also, obviously, creates exposure for the brand and sponsors. However, being someone who only speaks Korean and isn't MC, Puma isn't as active in the community, so he doesn't have as big a following. So he's not winning many games, he isn't generating positive exposure for the EG brand and its sponsors. So naturally, if you aren't generating enough positive exposure to justify your salary, you might have to take a pay cut. Also, keep in mind, no one has any idea how much anyone on the team gets paid relative anyone else. | ||
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T.O.P
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kusto
Russian Federation823 Posts
On March 15 2013 14:08 Kenny_oro wrote: Official Statement: http://evilgeniuses.net/eg-releases-ho-joon-puma-lee/ I had to lol at this. | ||
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purakushi
United States3300 Posts
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
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hai2u
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grindC
Germany274 Posts
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styLesdavis
Germany833 Posts
his current contract ended. | ||
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figq
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Shinta)
United States1716 Posts
Really hope they can get some great US blood though. Not to pay him a bunch, but to build into a real beast along with the Koreans who are training for ProLeague etc. | ||
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mango_destroyer
Canada3914 Posts
On March 15 2013 15:28 dabom88 wrote: Also, I believe Scoots talked about this before. EG, and most e-sports teams in general, judge on both results AND brand/sponsor exposure. Ideally, a player would have both, but that is not always the case. Take players like Idra and Incontrol. Not the very best, but they both are very active members of the community. They both go on a lot of e-sports shows, do a lot of interviews, and stream. At all of these they mention their Sponsors, generating exposure. Say what you want about their personalities, but guys Idra and Incontrol do have big followings, which are good for sponsors. As long as you're continuously exposing the brand and sponsors in some way, you don't necessarily have to win every tournament. On the other hand, we have guys like Puma who were results-based. Winning tournaments also, obviously, creates exposure for the brand and sponsors. However, being someone who only speaks Korean and isn't MC, Puma isn't as active in the community, so he doesn't have as big a following. So he's not winning many games, he isn't generating positive exposure for the EG brand and its sponsors. So naturally, if you aren't generating enough positive exposure to justify your salary, you might have to take a pay cut. Also, keep in mind, no one has any idea how much anyone on the team gets paid relative anyone else. Yeah that makes sense. Thanks. | ||
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Alryk
United States2718 Posts
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Adersick
United States216 Posts
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sitromit
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On March 15 2013 15:23 UnKooL wrote: My god, that would be terrible. I would not like that at all. Sorry, it's inevitable, what coach Park wants, he gets. :p http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=339200 Any Starcraft II players you like in particular? JulyZerg. *Everyone laughs. I don't know why. Anyone who didn't come from Brood War? Oddly, I end up mostly watching players who used to play Brood War. They just have so much personality. I do like players like say, MarineKing, because he has his own unique characteristic, in his case making a lot of marines and using them well. | ||
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TeslasPigeon
464 Posts
On March 15 2013 15:32 grindC wrote: Weird to see PuMa leave... I'm guessing he'll join coL or Quantic, if he stays in SC2. The moment he joins another team, I highly doubt he would of been paid what EG would of renegotiated in his contracted. He has been in a rut for almost a year now, people didn't expect much from him in his PL matches. The only way he can start redeeming himself is to pull off some huge upsets. Without being on a high profile team his chances of traveling to foreign events is very small, weakening his chances at redemption. There aren't many foreign team leagues so perhaps joining another foreign team might not be his best shot, unless they are offering a salary. His best chance, in my opinion is to try and get on a ESF team and dominate in GSTL and make his way back in code A. Otherwise, within a year and a half, he will become another code B player over staying his welcome in a very competitive game with an even more competitive community. | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
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DisillusionedAcronym
190 Posts
from a business standpoint, it's understandable. but, man, still harsh. | ||
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