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UnKooL
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1667 Posts
March 15 2013 05:31 GMT
#61
Not really unexpected, I've been expecting this for a while now.

The sad thing is he wont get picked up by any team, not from Korean because his PL results are less than that of a B teamer, and no foreign team would invest on a dead talent, and if he does it would be a fraction of the amount from the salary he received in EG and I'm guessing his ego wont allow him to do that by seeing he didn't sign for a lower contract when EG offered one.

The right thing to do is to go to the army, but for some reason Puma doesn't strike me as a character who is brave enough to start fresh.
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phanto
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden708 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-15 05:32:23
March 15 2013 05:31 GMT
#62
I thought the 1-1-1 was Polt's signature dish, not Puma. or maybe Puma also did it. oh well.
EDIT: I mean, everybody did it, but I meant in a pioneering sort of way.
Nuubie
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden66 Posts
March 15 2013 05:32 GMT
#63
Nice, now I can cheer for him again
He had the same don't-give-a-f*** attitude from his stream, where he all-ins every game and shamelessly plays three ads.
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
March 15 2013 05:33 GMT
#64
It's the right move. Puma did very little promotional and tournament results, not of much benefit to EG. Imo they should remove more players so they get quality over quantity. There's no reason to invest in so many players when only half or so will get you the brunt in terms of commericalisation/results.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
March 15 2013 05:33 GMT
#65
On March 15 2013 14:31 phanto wrote:
I thought the 1-1-1 was Polt's signature dish, not Puma. or maybe Puma also did it. oh well.
EDIT: I mean, everybody did it, but I meant in a pioneering sort of way.

Polt was the creator, Puma was the perfecter.
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jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
March 15 2013 05:34 GMT
#66
On March 15 2013 14:33 TAMinator wrote:
It's the right move. Puma did very little promotional and tournament results, not of much benefit to EG. Imo they should remove more players so they get quality over quantity. There's no reason to invest in so many players when only half or so will get you the brunt in terms of commericalisation/results.

without knowing their players salaries, this is an incredibly naive thing to say. Puma probably had a pretty damn good contract since he had a fantastic 2011 into early 2012. Doesn't mean the other guys on roster do.
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Kergy
Profile Joined December 2010
Peru2011 Posts
March 15 2013 05:35 GMT
#67
oh the poor TSL prodigy, where will he go
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GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
March 15 2013 05:36 GMT
#68
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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
March 15 2013 05:36 GMT
#69
Oh shit :/

Some changes being made I see...
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graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
March 15 2013 05:37 GMT
#70
Puma was one of the few players on EG who are in the team for results, not for popularity.
But still, it seems silly to me to "let him go" because of poor results while there are players like incontrol and machine...
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16129 Posts
March 15 2013 05:40 GMT
#71
That was the most honest release statement I have ever read almost to the point of brutality.

Good luck PUMA hope you find a new team.
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Rahb18
Profile Joined March 2011
United States17 Posts
March 15 2013 05:40 GMT
#72
Remember this is all about money, Machine and HuK might get paid less than Puma.
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-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1927 Posts
March 15 2013 05:40 GMT
#73
saw this coming after I looked at his w/l in proleague and I believe he was lower than thorzain.. The bold part pretty much explains everything :/

Kinda sad, but gotta do what u gotta do as a business. Wonder what he will do next o.o
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16129 Posts
March 15 2013 05:41 GMT
#74
On March 15 2013 14:37 graNite wrote:
Puma was one of the few players on EG who are in the team for results, not for popularity.
But still, it seems silly to me to "let him go" because of poor results while there are players like incontrol and machine...


From what I gathered while reading that, Puma was paid far more than either of those 2.
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Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
March 15 2013 05:41 GMT
#75
I have to give credit to EG Alex, this is probably one of the most no-fluff and upfront press releases I've read.

Puma was overpaid based on the last six month, EG offered him less money, he said no, end of story.

I'm pretty sure Machine's salary isn't that high. And EG seems pretty good about keeping members of the original team on board (if they can afford it). I think LZ left the team not because they offered him less, but rather that they offered him the same money and opportunities he already had.

psychotics
Profile Joined July 2011
United States184 Posts
March 15 2013 05:42 GMT
#76
puma being highest paid korean on eg even with Jaedong on it?? if u consider that then this would make sense. also guys they didnt kick him they renegotiated contract and didnt find a mutaul agreement. im sure they have done this to many of the foreign eg players but have been able to come to terms so they didnt part ways. (what foreigner is going to give up salary at this point?) so relax with the why not huk or machine.
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2104 Posts
March 15 2013 05:42 GMT
#77
On March 15 2013 14:37 graNite wrote:
Puma was one of the few players on EG who are in the team for results, not for popularity.
But still, it seems silly to me to "let him go" because of poor results while there are players like incontrol and machine...

Well, if he gave as much publicity as either Incontrol or Machine, then I'm sure he'd still be there. But when have you seen Puma in an advertisement? Incontrol probably has the best "cost/performance" ratio in the world. It's all about the marketing, ya know?
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Random_0
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1163 Posts
March 15 2013 05:42 GMT
#78
It is a surprise to me to see EG behave like a "pro" team, and to release Puma based on a combination of underperformance and value (like an NFL team, or an MLB team would act.)

It's particularly a surprise because Team Liquid, my favorite foreigner team, has remained loyalty to players like Nony and TLO even when they weren't performing at the highest levels.

Why is this? Why do some SC2 teams keep players based on performance and others based on loyalty?
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
March 15 2013 05:43 GMT
#79
On March 15 2013 14:27 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2013 14:24 Waxangel wrote:
so sad, if you consider achievements while under the EG banner, he still the most successful SC II player they ever had

if you consider achievements in sc2, he was one of the best WoL players period. 2 NASL's, an IEM, and multiple top 3 finishes as well.


Let's not go crazy here, PuMa did well in foreign tourneys earlier in WoL, but he was certainly not one of the best players ( I don't think he even qualified for Code A). His achievements are good but still not near top 5 in achievements.

And for people saying why this happen and they keep other players, note that we don't know what their salaries and situation is compared to PuMa.
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
March 15 2013 05:43 GMT
#80
When you're not as marketable as others then results definitely matter. Hardly surprising, but still big news.

GL HF Puma
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