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[IEG] Short-cut interview with Stephano

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IEG_Vincent
Profile Joined December 2012
Korea (South)47 Posts
March 08 2013 09:40 GMT
#1
Hello, Everyone.
This is Vincent from IEG
This is a short-cut interview of Stephano in EG/TL



Thank you for watching SPL

*You can also watch the other clips in the link as below.
*JD's Interview
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=391153

*Hero's Interview
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=391850

*EG/TL's teamwork test clip
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=392726

*Introduce“Mr. I KNOW BUT”in Team 8th
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=393987

*Major's Interview
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=394839

*herO's Interview
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=396461

*effOrt & Leta Interview
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397591

*Soulkey & Zero Interview
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=399811

*BrAvO's Interview
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=401001
International E-sports Group / e-Sports Business Team / Assistant Manager / Vincent Oh
FrodaN
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
754 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-08 10:44:37
March 08 2013 09:42 GMT
#2
Really enjoy this series. Thanks Vincent ^^

Edit. Yikes good but tough interview to watch...
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
March 08 2013 10:02 GMT
#3
ouch
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 08 2013 10:06 GMT
#4
You should do an interview with Bear next and tell him about being unofficial world champion
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TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
March 08 2013 10:31 GMT
#5
I guess Stephano wont be coming back to Korea if he ever leaves
SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5427 Posts
March 08 2013 10:38 GMT
#6
It sounded like he was saying "가자" not "괜찮아" when the subtitles translated it to "It's okay". (가자 means "let's go").

Funny to hear Korean with a French accent.
KanoCoke
Profile Joined June 2011
Japan863 Posts
March 08 2013 10:38 GMT
#7
Pretty emotional interview there.

Can't really blame him for struggling over there due to the language barrier, as it happened to a lot of foreigners competing in Korea.
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Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
March 08 2013 10:41 GMT
#8
this is the first feedback we've heard about trOt too

pretty depressing. i feel bad for stephano. it's really hard to live somewhere where you have no friends (mostly) and don't even speak the language
Maruprime.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
March 08 2013 10:44 GMT
#9
This makes me think that stephano isn't going to be playing in code S and that might be why rain got an automatic seed? Dunno he seemed like he was going to cry towards the end which shows just how much he was not enjoying his time in korea which sucks.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-08 10:45:58
March 08 2013 10:45 GMT
#10
On March 08 2013 19:44 blade55555 wrote:
This makes me think that stephano isn't going to be playing in code S and that might be why rain got an automatic seed? Dunno he seemed like he was going to cry towards the end which shows just how much he was not enjoying his time in korea which sucks.

Nah. There were only 30 spots set after the up and down matches meaning GSL had to decide what to do with the last 2 spots. They announced that 1 of the last 2 spots is Rain's seed and the other one is to be announced as another seed.
source: http://www.gomtv.net/forum/view.gom?topicid=230721&cid=0&kind=8
They would have to do a 3rd seed if Stephano was leaving or they would have played the wildcard group to do the last 2 spots like they did last season when Stephano was seeded to replace Polt
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
March 08 2013 10:46 GMT
#11
On March 08 2013 19:45 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 19:44 blade55555 wrote:
This makes me think that stephano isn't going to be playing in code S and that might be why rain got an automatic seed? Dunno he seemed like he was going to cry towards the end which shows just how much he was not enjoying his time in korea which sucks.

Nah. There were only 30 spots set after the up and down matches meaning GSL had to decide what to do with the last 2 spots. They announced that 1 of the last 2 spots is Rain's seed and the other one is to be announced as another seed.
source: http://www.gomtv.net/forum/view.gom?topicid=230721&cid=0&kind=8
They would have to do a 3rd seed if Stephano was leaving or they would have played the wildcard group to do the last 2 spots like they did last season when Stephano was seeded to replace Polt


Ah ok well damn there goes my theory.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
March 08 2013 10:49 GMT
#12
Just let the guy live in France for a bit.
EG is killing the little motivation the guy has to play the game by making him stay in Korea. ._.
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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
March 08 2013 11:01 GMT
#13
Stephano reminds me of Dwight Howard.

EG-TL coach just got ten buses thrown on him.
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Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
March 08 2013 11:44 GMT
#14
I will save you Stephano! We will live happily together! Also we´ll kick the coach in the balls.

Seriously though, great insight into the team. With all those repetitive thank-the-sponsors-interviews it´s refreshing to hear a player being frank and speaking his mind.
I think I´ve just become a Stephano fan. Thanks!
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
March 08 2013 11:49 GMT
#15
Interesting interview.
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
March 08 2013 11:50 GMT
#16
Anyone remembers HuK's ominous comments on why EG-TL wasn't performing so well?
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Confuse
Profile Joined October 2009
2238 Posts
March 08 2013 12:00 GMT
#17
awww such a heartfelt and honest interview. i felt like he had more to tack on about foreign tournaments vs korean but felt it might be rude to say. i also really liked his comments about emotion control. i feel like that would be helpful in every profession. happy to win, not disappointed at defeat.

consider me a fan.
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crashonly
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland418 Posts
March 08 2013 12:08 GMT
#18
I'm going to get my spatula to try to scoop up the coach from the pavement..

Is a nice interview, most of these are Though it's clear that some of the koreans are more manner with theirs, and keep all sorts of touchy subjects out of them.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
March 08 2013 12:09 GMT
#19
On March 08 2013 19:44 blade55555 wrote:
This makes me think that stephano isn't going to be playing in code S and that might be why rain got an automatic seed? Dunno he seemed like he was going to cry towards the end which shows just how much he was not enjoying his time in korea which sucks.

If he would have stopped GSL he had to do it during the up and downs. First doing those, getting in code S and then dropping with create a shitstorm so big that thread about the misinformation would look tiny.
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
March 08 2013 12:15 GMT
#20
Brave interview, both from interviewer and inteviewee. Thanks!
Irre
Profile Joined August 2010
United States646 Posts
March 08 2013 16:16 GMT
#21
EG can not be happy with that interview.. and calling the coach out on TV is pretty crazy...but thats stephano
dinosrwar
Profile Joined September 2011
1290 Posts
March 08 2013 20:02 GMT
#22
On March 08 2013 20:01 Fionn wrote:
Stephano reminds me of Dwight Howard.

EG-TL coach just got ten buses thrown on him.


Though unlike Dwight, Stephano isn't going to carry his team to the finals of anything.
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
March 08 2013 20:05 GMT
#23
--- Nuked ---
bduddy
Profile Joined May 2012
United States1326 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-08 21:02:39
March 08 2013 20:20 GMT
#24
On March 08 2013 20:50 Grumbels wrote:
Anyone remembers HuK's ominous comments on why EG-TL wasn't performing so well?
Yes, and I'm pretty sure someone from EG posted some pretty rough (vague, but rough) comments on Reddit that were later deleted. I don't think Stephano is the only one that has a problem with the coach.

EDIT: I searched for the comment (quite a lot!) and couldn't find it, leading me to assume it had been deleted. Someone below found it and posted it.
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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-08 20:27:21
March 08 2013 20:24 GMT
#25
The question that remains: Are they going to sack Hwanni or the coach first?
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4133 Posts
March 08 2013 20:25 GMT
#26
On March 09 2013 05:20 bduddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 20:50 Grumbels wrote:
Anyone remembers HuK's ominous comments on why EG-TL wasn't performing so well?
Yes, and I'm pretty sure someone from EG posted some pretty rough (vague, but rough) comments on Reddit that were later deleted. I don't think Stephano is the only one that has a problem with the coach.

I really like to hear the ominous comment from HuK adn the other EG on reddit. PM me if you dont want to post here.
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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-08 20:34:01
March 08 2013 20:30 GMT
#27
On March 09 2013 05:25 Dingodile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 05:20 bduddy wrote:
On March 08 2013 20:50 Grumbels wrote:
Anyone remembers HuK's ominous comments on why EG-TL wasn't performing so well?
Yes, and I'm pretty sure someone from EG posted some pretty rough (vague, but rough) comments on Reddit that were later deleted. I don't think Stephano is the only one that has a problem with the coach.

I really like to hear the ominous comment from HuK adn the other EG on reddit. PM me if you dont want to post here.


EG's LectR posted on Reddit "You will see some changes (or (a) change, can't remember) very soon. We are not happy at all about the way the team has been managed.".

Edit: Found it, the thing about it being deleted is bullshit.

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/19mqtm/sowhere_is_egtl_failing_in_sc2pl/c8pie5u

iamlectR 51 Punkte 4 days ago (64|13)

Change is coming to EG-TL soon, folks. We're not happy at all with how it has been managed. There will be some news here soon.


I don't think all their staff will be the same in round four of Proleague.
nooboon
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2602 Posts
March 08 2013 20:39 GMT
#28
Such an honest interview. You can see the emotion in Stephano when he was talking about his brother and friends back in France.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
March 08 2013 20:41 GMT
#29
On March 09 2013 05:39 nooboon wrote:
Such an honest interview. You can see the emotion in Stephano when he was talking about his brother and friends back in France.


More emotion then he shows when playing .
When I think of something else, something will go here
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
March 08 2013 20:47 GMT
#30
On March 08 2013 20:50 Grumbels wrote:
Anyone remembers HuK's ominous comments on why EG-TL wasn't performing so well?

What did HuK have to say?
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
faiza
Profile Joined June 2012
United States451 Posts
March 08 2013 20:50 GMT
#31
Wow, emotional interview there at the end. wasn't expecting that. Hope things turn around for him in Korea. GL Stephano.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-08 21:06:53
March 08 2013 20:51 GMT
#32
On March 09 2013 05:47 Tachion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 20:50 Grumbels wrote:
Anyone remembers HuK's ominous comments on why EG-TL wasn't performing so well?

What did HuK have to say?

HuK replied to someone notable, don't remember exactly who, on twitter who asked himself what was going wrong with EGTL something along the lines of "I could tell you a whole lot about what's wrong but now it's too late to make changes".

Oh, look, it was R1CH.
Richard Stanway ‏@R1CH_TL

Looks like EG-TL has brought out their "We're done screwing around" lineup. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012-2013_Proleague/Round_3#Week_3

after the match (another 0-4 to Woongjin Stars)
Feb 18 Chris Loranger Chris Loranger ‏@LorangerChris

@R1CH_TL good call

Feb 18 Richard Stanway Richard Stanway ‏@R1CH_TL

@LorangerChris Yeah I've just given up hope at this point. It doesn't make sense.


Feb 18 Chris Loranger Chris Loranger ‏@LorangerChris

@R1CH_TL i honestly could say a lot but there would need to be a lot of changes, and now is a lot later then when it needed to be done


And just this week HuK tweeted:

Chris Loranger ‏@LorangerChris

I hope things change for the better in proleague sooner rather then later. I have been trying to push the team for a very long time now.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
March 08 2013 21:05 GMT
#33
Oh no Sc2 getting this fire the coach if something goes wrong mentality, getting closer to normal sports! Kidding, but I really hope someone cheers Stephano up.
GunSec
Profile Joined February 2010
1095 Posts
March 08 2013 21:18 GMT
#34
LOL funny the coach wakes stephano up in the morning because he is yelling XD
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
March 08 2013 21:22 GMT
#35
What exactly does the coach have to yell about?
MICRO HARDER
MINE MINERALS FASTER
NO NO DON'T DROP BANELINGS ON CANNONS
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1Dhalism
Profile Joined June 2012
862 Posts
March 08 2013 21:31 GMT
#36
i think what he says about foreign tournaments is very important to note.
people always say if you want to be good you need to go to korea, but no money and no fans, how is going to korea being a progamer in any way shape or form? What professional athlete could give up both and say he still is a professional?

Beakyboo
Profile Joined May 2010
United States485 Posts
March 08 2013 21:45 GMT
#37
Not really surprising that he doesn't like it there. You take someone who's used to practicing in a comfortable environment at his own pace, and is very successful doing it, and throw him into some really rigorous, hardcore training regime for the sake of marketing him in a few exclusive tournaments that he probably doesn't care all that much about.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
March 08 2013 21:49 GMT
#38
He should just go home and never come back to korea. Fans and antifans wanted to know whether or not he would win a GSL. We have our answer now as a resounding, NO, so there's nothing left for him in korea now. However, his fans are going to be even more unbearable with these latest interviews using the excuse that he didn't win code s or dominate pro league because he wasn't happy.
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Firlefanz
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany245 Posts
March 08 2013 22:01 GMT
#39
On March 09 2013 06:49 Canucklehead wrote:
He should just go home and never come back to korea. Fans and antifans wanted to know whether or not he would win a GSL. We have our answer now as a resounding, NO, so there's nothing left for him in korea now. However, his fans are going to be even more unbearable with these latest interviews using the excuse that he didn't win code s or dominate pro league because he wasn't happy.

I really don't want to start an argument, but the delusional Stephano fans are far outnumbered by the hardcore Stephano haters I feel (I don't count you as one btw). Yes it is true, that Stephano didn't do as good as some expected but there is no shame at all in losing to Innovation and Flying.
Stephano is a solid player (everyone should be able to live with that statement i hope) and instead of supporting him or at least tolerating him he gets quite a lot of hate (which is unjustified imo). A lot of the guys who come up with the excuses just seem like trolls trying to start flame wars.

I'm sad that he doesn't like it staying in korea, but it is understandable from what I hear. Personally I hope he will participate in the next GSL, because it is quite an achievement going through the up and downs. Maybe he can even give Polt back his Code S seed some time ("was just reserving it for you"). That would be pretty awesome!
igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
March 08 2013 22:08 GMT
#40
Stephano could not care less what anyone thinks about him
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Archen
Profile Joined April 2012
United States79 Posts
March 08 2013 22:11 GMT
#41
I wonder if Stephano will eventually stop trying for GSL so that he can just leave Korea. He really hates it there.
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achew
Profile Joined February 2012
France86 Posts
March 08 2013 22:14 GMT
#42
I'm ok to pay the ransom to free stephano
Jotoco
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil1342 Posts
March 08 2013 22:29 GMT
#43
"Very very depressing and unpleasant time in Korea"

I think I may have stumbled upon his difficult to play up to his standard.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
March 09 2013 02:53 GMT
#44
On March 09 2013 07:01 Firlefanz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 06:49 Canucklehead wrote:
He should just go home and never come back to korea. Fans and antifans wanted to know whether or not he would win a GSL. We have our answer now as a resounding, NO, so there's nothing left for him in korea now. However, his fans are going to be even more unbearable with these latest interviews using the excuse that he didn't win code s or dominate pro league because he wasn't happy.

I really don't want to start an argument, but the delusional Stephano fans are far outnumbered by the hardcore Stephano haters I feel (I don't count you as one btw). Yes it is true, that Stephano didn't do as good as some expected but there is no shame at all in losing to Innovation and Flying.

hrmm not in my experience
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yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2969 Posts
March 09 2013 04:49 GMT
#45
Wow, watching this. Can't help feel bad for Stephano, he is just having a terrible time. I say let him go home and practice in his own environment, attend foreign tourneys and win or place high in them as he usually does.

Player morale is quite important, and seeing that reddit thread regarding EGTL not performing well, along with Stephano's comments. There needs to be change somewhere to make things better for them. I am curious to see what will happen.
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Mongolbonjwa
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland376 Posts
March 09 2013 05:00 GMT
#46
In the OP there is this "You can also watch the other clips in the link as below", that is not correct english. There is no "as" before "below", also it is "links" not "link".
Irre
Profile Joined August 2010
United States646 Posts
March 09 2013 05:42 GMT
#47
bottom line..he can make the choice to leave korea very easily if hes not happy....It's kind of sad that hes complaining in a TV interview about how unhappy he is. EG is paying a 19 year old kid 100k a year to play starcraft..and the coach waking him up to practice is worthy of his fans sympathy? come on now. I was tempted to feel bad after the interview..but sorry he can easily give it up if hes not happy..and he should while hes young.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
March 09 2013 06:11 GMT
#48
On March 09 2013 14:42 Irre wrote:
bottom line..he can make the choice to leave korea very easily if hes not happy....It's kind of sad that hes complaining in a TV interview about how unhappy he is. EG is paying a 19 year old kid 100k a year to play starcraft..and the coach waking him up to practice is worthy of his fans sympathy? come on now. I was tempted to feel bad after the interview..but sorry he can easily give it up if hes not happy..and he should while hes young.

He probably has to stay because it might be in his contract or something. Felt like he was gonna cry at the end, hope things start to look up for him!
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Mongolbonjwa
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland376 Posts
March 09 2013 06:14 GMT
#49
How do you know he has 100 000 salary?
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
March 09 2013 09:03 GMT
#50
On March 09 2013 14:42 Irre wrote:
bottom line..he can make the choice to leave korea very easily if hes not happy....It's kind of sad that hes complaining in a TV interview about how unhappy he is. EG is paying a 19 year old kid 100k a year to play starcraft..and the coach waking him up to practice is worthy of his fans sympathy? come on now. I was tempted to feel bad after the interview..but sorry he can easily give it up if hes not happy..and he should while hes young.


I know right? He wants to be a doctor and is crying about being woken up early. A lot of pro gamers are very naive and don't know what real hard work is or what it's like in the real world to work.
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
March 09 2013 09:08 GMT
#51
iirc stephano isn't trying to become a doctor, it was a common misconception

internship is ridic :o
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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
March 09 2013 09:09 GMT
#52
On March 08 2013 20:01 Fionn wrote:
Stephano reminds me of Dwight Howard.

EG-TL coach just got ten buses thrown on him.

Whoa. This is a surprisingly good analogy. Not perfect, but it's really not bad at all =P

And yeah...no wonder I was reading all those posts about the coaching issue. So I guess this interview is where those recent posts have been originating.... Poor stephano though. I never particularly liked him, but his experience sounds like it really kind of sucked. It's a shame for sure unfortunately
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
March 09 2013 11:43 GMT
#53
On March 09 2013 14:42 Irre wrote:
bottom line..he can make the choice to leave korea very easily if hes not happy....
I don't think he can actually. In an other interview, some guy ask him, as he wasn' feeling good in SK, if he will be in Europe or North America in the next weeks, Stephano answered "possibly, I can't say anything about it"
He's still in contract, and I doubt he can decide everything
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Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4133 Posts
March 09 2013 12:53 GMT
#54
yea looks like that his contract says: "you have to play proleague several rounds". If he is unhappy in SK, he should leave SK. You cant play good if you are unhappy.
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-10 19:22:24
March 10 2013 19:20 GMT
#55
On March 09 2013 18:03 Canucklehead wrote:
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On March 09 2013 14:42 Irre wrote:
bottom line..he can make the choice to leave korea very easily if hes not happy....It's kind of sad that hes complaining in a TV interview about how unhappy he is. EG is paying a 19 year old kid 100k a year to play starcraft..and the coach waking him up to practice is worthy of his fans sympathy? come on now. I was tempted to feel bad after the interview..but sorry he can easily give it up if hes not happy..and he should while hes young.


I know right? He wants to be a doctor and is crying about being woken up early. A lot of pro gamers are very naive and don't know what real hard work is or what it's like in the real world to work.


Being woken up in the middle of the night or early in the morning because your coach is screaming at you is not "what it's like in the real world to work". It doesn't matter how things are elsewhere, the coach should not scream at the players - it affects performance and general atmosphere in a very negative way, from my experience. And I doubt people wake you up in the middle of the night just to be unpleasant, so I don't think you're in a place to judge. The guy seems truly sad in the interview, and he rarely does that - something is obviously not right - whether that's the reason for his slightly above-mediocre performance in Proleague or not is another matter, but the coach does not have the right to harass anyone like that.

If Stephano's contract had said "We are allowed to wake you up when we want, scream at you and be generally unpleasant", it would be a different matter. But, for some reason, I doubt that that is the case.
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nikonikonii
Profile Joined March 2013
Japan38 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-10 19:29:55
March 10 2013 19:27 GMT
#56
Yeah sure blame the coach, he's the reason EG-TL got owned in all kill right?

oh wait


Also, since stephano can't assimilate with kespa-like trainings, I doubt he can par up with the koreans
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
March 10 2013 19:31 GMT
#57
On March 11 2013 04:27 nikonikonii wrote:
Yeah sure blame the coach, he's the reason EG-TL got owned in all kill right?

oh wait


Also, since stephano can't assimilate with kespa-like trainings, I doubt he can par up with the koreans

There is a difference between blaming the coach for going 0-16 in games across the last four series, and complaining about the coach harassing (possibly) players by waking them up and needlessly screaming at them.
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nikonikonii
Profile Joined March 2013
Japan38 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-10 19:37:27
March 10 2013 19:36 GMT
#58
On March 11 2013 04:31 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 04:27 nikonikonii wrote:
Yeah sure blame the coach, he's the reason EG-TL got owned in all kill right?

oh wait


Also, since stephano can't assimilate with kespa-like trainings, I doubt he can par up with the koreans

There is a difference between blaming the coach for going 0-16 in games across the last four series, and complaining about the coach harassing (possibly) players by waking them up and needlessly screaming at them.


Aww, boo hoo. wittle waby got his weelings whurt for getting screamed at.

There are two sides of the story, I only see one

harassing


Yeah sure, call it rape too.

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bduddy
Profile Joined May 2012
United States1326 Posts
March 10 2013 19:40 GMT
#59
Am I the only one that thinks Stephano might have been exaggerating slightly, you know, for comedic effect? I mean, do you people also think the Korean players all think their teammates are ugly? Yes, we know at this point there are some problems in the EG-TL house, but these interviews are not meant to be entirely serious...
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
March 10 2013 19:42 GMT
#60
On March 11 2013 04:36 nikonikonii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 04:31 Zealously wrote:
On March 11 2013 04:27 nikonikonii wrote:
Yeah sure blame the coach, he's the reason EG-TL got owned in all kill right?

oh wait


Also, since stephano can't assimilate with kespa-like trainings, I doubt he can par up with the koreans

There is a difference between blaming the coach for going 0-16 in games across the last four series, and complaining about the coach harassing (possibly) players by waking them up and needlessly screaming at them.


Aww, boo hoo. wittle waby got his weelings whurt for getting screamed at.

There are two sides of the story, I only see one

Show nested quote +
harassing


Yeah sure, call it rape too.


I assume you are regularly woken up by someone screaming at you for no apparent reason? If not, I can tell you first-hand that it isn't a fun experience, especially if it happens repetetively. If it happened once, I might agree with you and say that he's overreacting. If not, then yes - I believe it qualifies as harassment, and could potentially (one of many) a factor in the below-expectations performance of Stephano and EG-TL as a whole.
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rice_devOurer
Profile Joined July 2012
United States773 Posts
March 10 2013 19:45 GMT
#61
On March 11 2013 04:42 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 04:36 nikonikonii wrote:
On March 11 2013 04:31 Zealously wrote:
On March 11 2013 04:27 nikonikonii wrote:
Yeah sure blame the coach, he's the reason EG-TL got owned in all kill right?

oh wait


Also, since stephano can't assimilate with kespa-like trainings, I doubt he can par up with the koreans

There is a difference between blaming the coach for going 0-16 in games across the last four series, and complaining about the coach harassing (possibly) players by waking them up and needlessly screaming at them.


Aww, boo hoo. wittle waby got his weelings whurt for getting screamed at.

There are two sides of the story, I only see one

harassing


Yeah sure, call it rape too.


I assume you are regularly woken up by someone screaming at you for no apparent reason? If not, I can tell you first-hand that it isn't a fun experience, especially if it happens repetetively. If it happened once, I might agree with you and say that he's overreacting. If not, then yes - I believe it qualifies as harassment, and could potentially (one of many) a factor in the below-expectations performance of Stephano and EG-TL as a whole.

Personally, i can tell you that nobody would be performing well if they are woken up and screamed at (needlessly?)
That affects your circadian rhythm, and therefore messes up your entire body clock.
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-10 19:48:04
March 10 2013 19:47 GMT
#62
On March 11 2013 04:45 rice_devOurer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 04:42 Zealously wrote:
On March 11 2013 04:36 nikonikonii wrote:
On March 11 2013 04:31 Zealously wrote:
On March 11 2013 04:27 nikonikonii wrote:
Yeah sure blame the coach, he's the reason EG-TL got owned in all kill right?

oh wait


Also, since stephano can't assimilate with kespa-like trainings, I doubt he can par up with the koreans

There is a difference between blaming the coach for going 0-16 in games across the last four series, and complaining about the coach harassing (possibly) players by waking them up and needlessly screaming at them.


Aww, boo hoo. wittle waby got his weelings whurt for getting screamed at.

There are two sides of the story, I only see one

harassing


Yeah sure, call it rape too.


I assume you are regularly woken up by someone screaming at you for no apparent reason? If not, I can tell you first-hand that it isn't a fun experience, especially if it happens repetetively. If it happened once, I might agree with you and say that he's overreacting. If not, then yes - I believe it qualifies as harassment, and could potentially (one of many) a factor in the below-expectations performance of Stephano and EG-TL as a whole.

Personally, i can tell you that nobody would be performing well if they are woken up and screamed at (needlessly?)
That affects your circadian rhythm, and therefore messes up your entire body clock.


Very true. I had a coach (not in Starcraft, obviously - I'm nowhere near the level where I would have one) who used to wake us up at 3 or 4 am for unscheduled workout when we were at training camps overseas. Very unpleasant thing to experience, and there is usually very little you can do about it.

Edit: We still don't know if what Stephano talked about has happened multiple times and to more players than him. If it has, that is a possible explanation - if not, then the rest of EG-TL is still performing below expectations for some reason.
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nikonikonii
Profile Joined March 2013
Japan38 Posts
March 10 2013 19:48 GMT
#63
On March 11 2013 04:42 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 04:36 nikonikonii wrote:
On March 11 2013 04:31 Zealously wrote:
On March 11 2013 04:27 nikonikonii wrote:
Yeah sure blame the coach, he's the reason EG-TL got owned in all kill right?

oh wait


Also, since stephano can't assimilate with kespa-like trainings, I doubt he can par up with the koreans

There is a difference between blaming the coach for going 0-16 in games across the last four series, and complaining about the coach harassing (possibly) players by waking them up and needlessly screaming at them.


Aww, boo hoo. wittle waby got his weelings whurt for getting screamed at.

There are two sides of the story, I only see one

harassing


Yeah sure, call it rape too.


I assume you are regularly woken up by someone screaming at you for no apparent reason? If not, I can tell you first-hand that it isn't a fun experience, especially if it happens repetetively. If it happened once, I might agree with you and say that he's overreacting. If not, then yes - I believe it qualifies as harassment, and could potentially (one of many) a factor in the below-expectations performance of Stephano and EG-TL as a whole.


His story is very one sided and for all we know he's not even practicing and just slacking around so his coach wanted to slap his shit together.

But hey, maybe it's stephano and his "rockstar" attitude to do some fanservice and start another drama for MORE EG ATTENTION.
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
March 10 2013 19:48 GMT
#64
Poor Stephano...Korea is killing him :/
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
March 10 2013 19:53 GMT
#65
On March 11 2013 04:48 nikonikonii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 04:42 Zealously wrote:
On March 11 2013 04:36 nikonikonii wrote:
On March 11 2013 04:31 Zealously wrote:
On March 11 2013 04:27 nikonikonii wrote:
Yeah sure blame the coach, he's the reason EG-TL got owned in all kill right?

oh wait


Also, since stephano can't assimilate with kespa-like trainings, I doubt he can par up with the koreans

There is a difference between blaming the coach for going 0-16 in games across the last four series, and complaining about the coach harassing (possibly) players by waking them up and needlessly screaming at them.


Aww, boo hoo. wittle waby got his weelings whurt for getting screamed at.

There are two sides of the story, I only see one

harassing


Yeah sure, call it rape too.


I assume you are regularly woken up by someone screaming at you for no apparent reason? If not, I can tell you first-hand that it isn't a fun experience, especially if it happens repetetively. If it happened once, I might agree with you and say that he's overreacting. If not, then yes - I believe it qualifies as harassment, and could potentially (one of many) a factor in the below-expectations performance of Stephano and EG-TL as a whole.


His story is very one sided and for all we know he's not even practicing and just slacking around so his coach wanted to slap his shit together.

But hey, maybe it's stephano and his "rockstar" attitude to do some fanservice and start another drama for MORE EG ATTENTION.


Or maybe it's not, which is why it's silly to shit on him without actually knowing anything other than that you don't really like him.
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nikonikonii
Profile Joined March 2013
Japan38 Posts
March 10 2013 19:54 GMT
#66
On March 11 2013 04:53 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 04:48 nikonikonii wrote:
On March 11 2013 04:42 Zealously wrote:
On March 11 2013 04:36 nikonikonii wrote:
On March 11 2013 04:31 Zealously wrote:
On March 11 2013 04:27 nikonikonii wrote:
Yeah sure blame the coach, he's the reason EG-TL got owned in all kill right?

oh wait


Also, since stephano can't assimilate with kespa-like trainings, I doubt he can par up with the koreans

There is a difference between blaming the coach for going 0-16 in games across the last four series, and complaining about the coach harassing (possibly) players by waking them up and needlessly screaming at them.


Aww, boo hoo. wittle waby got his weelings whurt for getting screamed at.

There are two sides of the story, I only see one

harassing


Yeah sure, call it rape too.


I assume you are regularly woken up by someone screaming at you for no apparent reason? If not, I can tell you first-hand that it isn't a fun experience, especially if it happens repetetively. If it happened once, I might agree with you and say that he's overreacting. If not, then yes - I believe it qualifies as harassment, and could potentially (one of many) a factor in the below-expectations performance of Stephano and EG-TL as a whole.


His story is very one sided and for all we know he's not even practicing and just slacking around so his coach wanted to slap his shit together.

But hey, maybe it's stephano and his "rockstar" attitude to do some fanservice and start another drama for MORE EG ATTENTION.


Or maybe it's not, which is why it's silly to shit on him without actually knowing anything other than that you don't really like him.


Talking about it on a forum must be silly then! then TL must be the silliest part of the internet!
Swiipii
Profile Joined January 2012
2195 Posts
March 10 2013 19:56 GMT
#67
On March 09 2013 11:53 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 07:01 Firlefanz wrote:
On March 09 2013 06:49 Canucklehead wrote:
He should just go home and never come back to korea. Fans and antifans wanted to know whether or not he would win a GSL. We have our answer now as a resounding, NO, so there's nothing left for him in korea now. However, his fans are going to be even more unbearable with these latest interviews using the excuse that he didn't win code s or dominate pro league because he wasn't happy.

I really don't want to start an argument, but the delusional Stephano fans are far outnumbered by the hardcore Stephano haters I feel (I don't count you as one btw). Yes it is true, that Stephano didn't do as good as some expected but there is no shame at all in losing to Innovation and Flying.

hrmm not in my experience

Just look at the LR of his up and downs matches . One guy in the whole LR said Stephano was code S champion level (which is stupid) and everybody jumped on him to say how Stephano's fans are the worst blahblahblah . Just look at his fan club you won't see any delusional fanboys comments . Quite the contrary actually , lots of fans were not hoping much of his trip to korea and knew it would be really though for him to go through his code S group .

Anyway good itw I hope he goes back to korea to help EG-TL with Proleague (with Taeja injured and HerO not playing is best they really need him) .
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
March 10 2013 19:59 GMT
#68
On March 11 2013 04:54 nikonikonii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 04:53 Zealously wrote:
On March 11 2013 04:48 nikonikonii wrote:
On March 11 2013 04:42 Zealously wrote:
On March 11 2013 04:36 nikonikonii wrote:
On March 11 2013 04:31 Zealously wrote:
On March 11 2013 04:27 nikonikonii wrote:
Yeah sure blame the coach, he's the reason EG-TL got owned in all kill right?

oh wait


Also, since stephano can't assimilate with kespa-like trainings, I doubt he can par up with the koreans

There is a difference between blaming the coach for going 0-16 in games across the last four series, and complaining about the coach harassing (possibly) players by waking them up and needlessly screaming at them.


Aww, boo hoo. wittle waby got his weelings whurt for getting screamed at.

There are two sides of the story, I only see one

harassing


Yeah sure, call it rape too.


I assume you are regularly woken up by someone screaming at you for no apparent reason? If not, I can tell you first-hand that it isn't a fun experience, especially if it happens repetetively. If it happened once, I might agree with you and say that he's overreacting. If not, then yes - I believe it qualifies as harassment, and could potentially (one of many) a factor in the below-expectations performance of Stephano and EG-TL as a whole.


His story is very one sided and for all we know he's not even practicing and just slacking around so his coach wanted to slap his shit together.

But hey, maybe it's stephano and his "rockstar" attitude to do some fanservice and start another drama for MORE EG ATTENTION.


Or maybe it's not, which is why it's silly to shit on him without actually knowing anything other than that you don't really like him.


Talking about it on a forum must be silly then! then TL must be the silliest part of the internet!


I'm not really sure what you're trying to say here. I suggest that shitting on a player without knowing any facts is silly, and you respond with... What, exactly? I don't get it.
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nikonikonii
Profile Joined March 2013
Japan38 Posts
March 10 2013 20:07 GMT
#69
On March 11 2013 04:59 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 04:54 nikonikonii wrote:
On March 11 2013 04:53 Zealously wrote:
On March 11 2013 04:48 nikonikonii wrote:
On March 11 2013 04:42 Zealously wrote:
On March 11 2013 04:36 nikonikonii wrote:
On March 11 2013 04:31 Zealously wrote:
On March 11 2013 04:27 nikonikonii wrote:
Yeah sure blame the coach, he's the reason EG-TL got owned in all kill right?

oh wait


Also, since stephano can't assimilate with kespa-like trainings, I doubt he can par up with the koreans

There is a difference between blaming the coach for going 0-16 in games across the last four series, and complaining about the coach harassing (possibly) players by waking them up and needlessly screaming at them.


Aww, boo hoo. wittle waby got his weelings whurt for getting screamed at.

There are two sides of the story, I only see one

harassing


Yeah sure, call it rape too.


I assume you are regularly woken up by someone screaming at you for no apparent reason? If not, I can tell you first-hand that it isn't a fun experience, especially if it happens repetetively. If it happened once, I might agree with you and say that he's overreacting. If not, then yes - I believe it qualifies as harassment, and could potentially (one of many) a factor in the below-expectations performance of Stephano and EG-TL as a whole.


His story is very one sided and for all we know he's not even practicing and just slacking around so his coach wanted to slap his shit together.

But hey, maybe it's stephano and his "rockstar" attitude to do some fanservice and start another drama for MORE EG ATTENTION.


Or maybe it's not, which is why it's silly to shit on him without actually knowing anything other than that you don't really like him.


Talking about it on a forum must be silly then! then TL must be the silliest part of the internet!


I'm not really sure what you're trying to say here. I suggest that shitting on a player without knowing any facts is silly, and you respond with... What, exactly? I don't get it.


That's what I'm trying to point out here, stephano is just spouting shit without the side of his coach so how the fuck am I supposed to believe him and his whining.

Stop being a pseudo-intellectual with that reply and read my previous posts clearly.
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
March 10 2013 20:15 GMT
#70
whats more likely, a coach whos been part of esports system screaming people awake every morning or a 19 turning 20 year old guy is thrust into living in a foreign country with 1 other english speaker as a friend on his team, can't speak the language, in cold/gray/shitty weather, had mediocre results (but surely not the results he wanted in GSL and/or proleague, if he cares about proleague), and who has in the past had relative freedom (enough so that he got kicked out of a club partying or whatever) compared to a strict korean teamhouse living style

then contrast that with a coach (trot, dunno if other EG coaches) who probably can't speak english, who is used to koreans dutifully washing the dishes and practice to 5 AM playing the same 20-30 practice partners everyday in the SKT house because they dream of one day even being sent out for 1 proleague match for SKT just because of the name recognition, who have a different way to respect age compared to most westerners (who probably see a difference between an 18 year old vs 20 year old socially) and probably feels stephano doesn't show the right way to respect and older coach based on korean standards.

there's no one to blame on either side, it's just a 19 year old being unhappy.
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BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-10 20:23:45
March 10 2013 20:19 GMT
#71
On March 08 2013 20:01 Fionn wrote:
Stephano reminds me of Dwight Howard.

EG-TL coach just got ten buses thrown on him.


Except for the fact that Stephano has Kobe Bryant's skill level, yes.

I really liked the question: You are such a poker face. Why?
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-10 22:51:49
March 10 2013 20:46 GMT
#72
On March 09 2013 18:08 opterown wrote:
iirc stephano isn't trying to become a doctor, it was a common misconception

internship is ridic :o

He wanted to but as his career went forward, he realized it was not possible anymore. Last time he spoke about studies it was for economics school/university in Manchester.

Otherwise, the EG-TL coach is obviously bad. Of course he's not the only responsible of the bad results of the team but most of his choices are absurd.
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Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
March 10 2013 21:45 GMT
#73
woah, that was pretty emotional. i feel kinda bad for stephano, but of course we don't know the whole story.

i do think it was a dumb decision from both EG and Stephano to have him go to Korea in the first place. he had been saying he doesn't think GSL (and proleague) suits his playstyle at all and he probably won't do well. not sure why EG thought it was a good idea to send him there, have him practice in an environment he won't enjoy and expect him to do well against the hardest competition in the world in a format he does not like.

just bring Stephano back to France or US or something and send Idra to Korea. the name recognition should still be pretty damn high, there's not much to lose in terms of results (sorry Greg) but a lot to gain from him practicing in Korea. Idra has already shown in the past how well he can do in a Korean environment, and i don't think he would complain about going to Korea. could be wrong though of course.
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Evil_Sheep
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-10 22:15:41
March 10 2013 22:11 GMT
#74
Stephano: "I am having very, very depressing and unpleasant time in Korea..."

Who do you dislike most in EGTL? "The coach. He is very unmannered [...] His general attitude, I don't like it."

It's a shockingly candid interview, and it shows just how new and raw e-sports still are. You would never see such an honest and negative interview from a pro athlete.

Clearly the team atmosphere in EGTL is every bit as bad as it has looked from the outside. They assembled Hero, Taeja, and Stephano for the first time in round 3 and yet are on an unbroken 16-game losing streak. It's ridiculous, and it's clearly nothing to do with the quality of the players. Taeja is this GSL's semifinalist yet he's on a 5-game losing streak similar to his teammates.

It's too bad for Stephano b/c a great opportunity for him to learn and improve in Korea is being wasted in a poisonous team environment.

It's clear to me that Stephano is also suffering from homesickness and culture shock. I've noticed it's common for French people to get homesick, and the cultural gulf b/w France and Korea could not be more vast. In Korea the expectation is to work tirelessly and obey authority unquestioningly. If you fail it is a personal shame. In France they do what they want and if someone, whether or a coach or whoever, criticizes you, you tell them where to stick it. If you fail, the usual reaction is a Gallic shrug of the shoulders and a c'est la vie.

EGTL are crying out for a management change and that seems to be inevitable given their freefall. But if one Korean coaching staff is simply replaced by another, the tension between the expectations of foreign players and Korean culture will continue to create conflict.
Holytornados
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1022 Posts
March 10 2013 23:40 GMT
#75
Cool interview, thanks for it!
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mav451
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1596 Posts
March 21 2013 05:20 GMT
#76
Wow this was incredibly eye-opening.
I really had no idea about this until it was brought up on ITG.

Agreed Evil_sheep - I wonder how much improvement/change we can realistically expect from the new coach.
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