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2013 GSL Season 2 U&D groups released

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DARKING
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Mexico674 Posts
February 28 2013 08:36 GMT
#1
No seeds this time, so 2 groups have only 5 players.

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Poll: Group of death?

Group C (272)
 
42%

Group E (269)
 
41%

Group A (61)
 
9%

Group B (39)
 
6%

Group D (10)
 
2%

651 total votes

Your vote: Group of death?

(Vote): Group A
(Vote): Group B
(Vote): Group C
(Vote): Group D
(Vote): Group E

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Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-28 08:38:18
February 28 2013 08:36 GMT
#2
ho damn. prime's groups are bearable i guess, at least for MKP and creator. byun and maru have a tough time

A: yonghwa, marineking
B: effort, creator
C: hero, maru
D: bboongbboong, alive?? weak group
E: sniper, rain
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-28 08:43:28
February 28 2013 08:36 GMT
#3
Hooray! 1 zerg for Marineking! There's a chance! and Trust!

On February 28 2013 17:36 opterown wrote:
ho damn

too fast

Group E is group of death imo especially if Flying keeps playing well and the good ByuN shows up

A: MarineKing, YongHwa
B: Creator, EffOrt
C: KeeN, HerO
D: BBoongBBoong, Noblesse
E: Sniper, Flying
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28087 Posts
February 28 2013 08:39 GMT
#4
Hopefully Fantasy and MKP do well
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Skiblet
Profile Joined August 2011
South Africa206 Posts
February 28 2013 08:41 GMT
#5
Its all messed up :/ it says ID for the team and Team for the ID in every group except the first
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
February 28 2013 08:42 GMT
#6
Any word on wild cards?
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Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 28 2013 08:42 GMT
#7
On February 28 2013 17:42 Dodgin wrote:
Any word on wild cards?

yeah, two empty slots too. maybe for IEM and MLG winners or something?
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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
February 28 2013 08:43 GMT
#8
Well, Yonghwa will be able to go to IEM once his group is done (hopefully he won't be too tired)
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28087 Posts
February 28 2013 08:43 GMT
#9
On February 28 2013 17:42 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 17:42 Dodgin wrote:
Any word on wild cards?

yeah, two empty slots too. maybe for IEM and MLG winners or something?

That would be good I guess.
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Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1612 Posts
February 28 2013 08:44 GMT
#10
(T)Mvp in every group!
INnoVation TY Maru | Classic Stats Dear sOs Zest herO | Rogue Dark soO
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Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 28 2013 08:46 GMT
#11
On February 28 2013 17:43 vthree wrote:
Well, Yonghwa will be able to go to IEM once his group is done (hopefully he won't be too tired)

it'll be pretty tight, IEM is less than 48 hours after.
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
February 28 2013 08:47 GMT
#12
Sniper got screwed, there's only 1 fan favorite he can kill in his group.
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DARKING
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Mexico674 Posts
February 28 2013 08:48 GMT
#13
On February 28 2013 17:42 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 17:42 Dodgin wrote:
Any word on wild cards?

yeah, two empty slots too. maybe for IEM and MLG winners or something?

They won't give seeds for U&D this season, otherwise they would have annouced them with the groups. Also, no word on wild card, so my guess is there won't be one this season. I assume last season the wild card group was because they only had 1 seed to give in code S, and there were 2 spots left that needed to be filled.
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Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
February 28 2013 08:48 GMT
#14
I thought the final 2 spots come from the wild card group made up of the 3rd place finishers in the up/down groups? That's how it was this season and from the wording of the original post, it sounded like a permanent thing.

Well, this line in particular made it sound like a permanent thing.

http://www.gomtv.net/forum/view.gom?topicid=228867

"If you kept seeing your favorite players take 3rd place over and over in the Up&Down Matches, they will now have a chance to advance to Code S!"

Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
February 28 2013 08:50 GMT
#15
Group D is considerably weaker than the others. Aside from that, I don't really think there is any one group of death (beyond the 6 person groups naturally being harder than the 5 person ones).
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
February 28 2013 08:51 GMT
#16
I would much rather they just do wild cards and stop giving out seeds, now that the league is so developed and there are so many players competing it seems wrong to just free spots in code S while 100+ good korean players try to qualify for code A every season.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-28 08:52:14
February 28 2013 08:51 GMT
#17
On February 28 2013 17:48 DARKING wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 17:42 opterown wrote:
On February 28 2013 17:42 Dodgin wrote:
Any word on wild cards?

yeah, two empty slots too. maybe for IEM and MLG winners or something?

They won't give seeds for U&D this season, otherwise they would have annouced them with the groups. Also, no word on wild card, so my guess is there won't be one this season. I assume last season the wild card group was because they only had 1 seed to give in code S, and there were 2 spots left that needed to be filled.

I guess the IEM and MLG winners could be used to determine the last 2 Code S spots, though. Go Mvp D: although Dodgin is right it should probably just go to a wildcard group. It's the fairest way
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
February 28 2013 08:53 GMT
#18
Wow, group E is the group of death lol. Gonna be hard to choose who goes on to Code S from that group.
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
February 28 2013 08:53 GMT
#19
Yeah Nestea isn't getting out of this one D;

too much terran. Think he can beat HerO though, and probably Maru.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 28 2013 08:55 GMT
#20
If MarineKing makes it to Code S he will be next in line for the NesTea award, along with DongRaeGu and Leenock who have already secured Code S, with 9 consecutive appearances.
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Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-28 09:01:30
February 28 2013 08:59 GMT
#21
Normally I'd say Group E is the group of death... but KeSPA Up & Down group curse... Group C it is.

A - MKP, Stephano
B - Ryung, Center
C - KeeN, HerO
D - aLive, BBoongBBoong if he isn't the nervous BBoongBBoong, if not, Noblesse
E - Sniper, ByuN
DARKING
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Mexico674 Posts
February 28 2013 09:00 GMT
#22
On February 28 2013 17:51 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 17:48 DARKING wrote:
On February 28 2013 17:42 opterown wrote:
On February 28 2013 17:42 Dodgin wrote:
Any word on wild cards?

yeah, two empty slots too. maybe for IEM and MLG winners or something?

They won't give seeds for U&D this season, otherwise they would have annouced them with the groups. Also, no word on wild card, so my guess is there won't be one this season. I assume last season the wild card group was because they only had 1 seed to give in code S, and there were 2 spots left that needed to be filled.

I guess the IEM and MLG winners could be used to determine the last 2 Code S spots, though. Go Mvp D: although Dodgin is right it should probably just go to a wildcard group. It's the fairest way

Possible, but it would depend also if the winner decide to accept the seed, we have known of players refusing them. If I had to bet, I would bet they already know what players will be seeded into code S. I like to believe GOM has code S planned already, it would be disastrous to have a seeded player not being able to go at the last minute.
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yokohama
Profile Joined February 2005
United States1116 Posts
February 28 2013 09:03 GMT
#23
Group A looks manageable for Stephano to make it out, I really hope to see him get to next season's Code S. Other than that, I hope Fantasy and Hero can advance, and I suppose Rain too. Most of my favourites are already back in Code S so I am not too excited for the Up and Downs.
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-28 09:05:49
February 28 2013 09:03 GMT
#24
The reason they had wild cards last season is because they had 30 players in the U&D.

Either they have U&D seeds + wild cards, or just Code S seeds. This time, they've chosen the latter (for whatever reason).
darkshad30000
Profile Joined November 2011
France111 Posts
February 28 2013 09:04 GMT
#25
Is Stephano going to participate or is he going to give up his spot?
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
February 28 2013 09:05 GMT
#26
On February 28 2013 18:04 darkshad30000 wrote:
Is Stephano going to participate or is he going to give up his spot?

He's participating... Either that or Group A will be a 3 man group without him and YongHwa...
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
February 28 2013 09:06 GMT
#27
Yonghwa
MKP

Creator
Effort/Center

Fantasy
Hero/Keen

shit group, maybe Crazy Hydra and B4

Flying
Rain

These groups are decidedly weaker than last season.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 28 2013 09:07 GMT
#28
On February 28 2013 18:06 lichter wrote:
These groups are decidedly weaker than last season.

It does really seem like that :/ Last season was ridiculous
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
February 28 2013 09:08 GMT
#29
On February 28 2013 18:07 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 18:06 lichter wrote:
These groups are decidedly weaker than last season.

It does really seem like that :/ Last season was ridiculous


I doubt it will affect the quality of games though because of HotS.
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DifuntO
Profile Joined November 2011
Greece2376 Posts
February 28 2013 09:08 GMT
#30
Group C seems good.
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Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
February 28 2013 09:08 GMT
#31
Fun groups!

I wonder if they give Scarlett' a seed with her going to Korea for GSTL.
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-28 09:09:12
February 28 2013 09:08 GMT
#32
Weaker U&Ds is a "good" thing because it (generally) means the stronger players didn't choke in the Ro32/Ro24.
prabhbhambra13
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom424 Posts
February 28 2013 09:08 GMT
#33
had groups for all the SKT players. hope a lot of them can get out. it would be incredible is LabyRinth some how made it into code s.
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
February 28 2013 09:08 GMT
#34
Kinda weird huh
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Charlie Sheens House51481 Posts
February 28 2013 09:09 GMT
#35
Group C and A pretty strong for me. Group C i would put everyone on the same level so anyone could win that. Then group A you have YoungHwa MKP and Stephano all fighting it out, should be good fun that. Shame Stephano is focusing on HOTS though and probably will spam some all ins xD
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Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
February 28 2013 09:09 GMT
#36
really hoping stephano makes it out >_< He has the potential but training HotS is hard on the WoL >_<
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
February 28 2013 09:11 GMT
#37
                      1st      2nd      3rd      4th      5th    
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Stephano 39.84% 22.99% 17.13% 13.56% 6.48%
MarineKing 28.59% 27.46% 20.47% 15.38% 8.10%
Yonghwa 14.88% 18.79% 21.64% 22.37% 22.32%
Lure 10.36% 17.36% 23.01% 24.59% 24.68%
trust 6.32% 13.40% 17.76% 24.10% 38.42%
Estimated by Aligulac. Make another.
                   1st      2nd      3rd      4th      5th      6th    
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Creator 28.65% 22.31% 18.86% 14.60% 10.38% 5.19%
Ryung 24.67% 22.21% 19.65% 15.85% 11.53% 6.09%
EffOrt 21.10% 21.20% 20.32% 17.20% 13.10% 7.09%
Killer 17.46% 18.77% 18.44% 17.93% 16.08% 11.32%
Center 5.44% 9.65% 12.98% 18.25% 24.19% 29.49%
Shine 2.68% 5.86% 9.75% 16.16% 24.73% 40.82%
Estimated by Aligulac. Make another.
                   1st      2nd      3rd      4th      5th    
--------------------------------------------------------------
HerO 28.36% 22.19% 19.62% 17.45% 12.37%
Maru 23.03% 21.29% 20.56% 19.27% 15.85%
Keen 19.90% 20.72% 21.03% 20.29% 18.06%
NesTea 18.87% 19.98% 20.46% 20.45% 20.24%
FanTaSy 9.85% 15.81% 18.32% 22.54% 33.47%
Estimated by Aligulac. Make another.
                        1st      2nd      3rd      4th      5th      6th    
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
BBoongBBoong 24.58% 19.95% 17.70% 14.99% 12.95% 9.82%
aLive 22.80% 19.63% 17.72% 15.43% 13.66% 10.76%
Crazy 18.58% 18.28% 17.73% 16.68% 15.60% 13.13%
Noblesse 13.88% 15.77% 16.53% 17.40% 17.99% 18.43%
LabyRinth 10.77% 13.72% 15.53% 17.79% 19.55% 22.64%
Avenge 9.38% 12.64% 14.79% 17.71% 20.25% 25.23%
Estimated by Aligulac. Make another.
                  1st      2nd      3rd      4th      5th      6th    
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Rain 33.97% 22.85% 17.39% 12.55% 8.70% 4.54%
Sniper 25.30% 22.18% 19.01% 15.18% 11.73% 6.61%
soO 15.90% 18.73% 19.60% 18.65% 16.41% 10.71%
ByuN 13.77% 17.10% 18.00% 18.52% 18.27% 14.34%
Flying 7.98% 12.90% 16.13% 19.77% 22.27% 20.95%
Bbyong 3.08% 6.24% 9.87% 15.33% 22.62% 42.84%
Estimated by Aligulac. Make another.
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-28 09:13:09
February 28 2013 09:11 GMT
#38
On February 28 2013 18:08 prabhbhambra13 wrote:
had groups for all the SKT players. hope a lot of them can get out. it would be incredible is LabyRinth some how made it into code s.


Was he the one that cheesed his way to wins in round 1 and then got crushed in macro games? Or was that someone else

Won't be surprised if Group C goes completely the opposite of Aligulac lol
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
February 28 2013 09:12 GMT
#39
Surely a Kespa player will survive the up/down this time, lol...

I mean group E is 4/6 Kespa and one of them is Rain xD. Fantasy stands a decent chance as well as does Effort.
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rasender872
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland10 Posts
February 28 2013 09:13 GMT
#40
A yonghwa deserves the sopt most, but he has always had issues whit up and downs so stephano and mkp rooting for yonghwa tough.
B creater, effort, obius picks i´d say.
C Hero, Nestea (hopefully)
D bboongboong and avenge. Cos i feel like it.
E Sniper and Rain. nothing to say.
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KingMel
Profile Joined July 2012
France120 Posts
February 28 2013 09:20 GMT
#41
XDDDDDD

Guys are you serious ? Ok Stephano lost in the first round of code S but it was close, it doesn't mean he is bad at all !

He is just going to crush everyone in is group, I really don't see him lose to the players he has to face...
Stephano will easily come out first

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Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
February 28 2013 09:34 GMT
#42
On February 28 2013 17:47 stuchiu wrote:
Sniper got screwed, there's only 1 fan favorite he can kill in his group.


I'm expecting him to forfeit. No job for him here.
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Inzan1ty
Profile Joined September 2012
1163 Posts
February 28 2013 09:38 GMT
#43
Wow, about fucking time aLive finally finds himself in a comfortable group.

2 x TvT, 1 x TvP, a Zerg that he usually always beat in the past (BBoong) , Iam only worried about Hydra here

Back to Code S where the former fnatic Ace belongs, fuck the haters haha, Iam so optimistic aLive will surprise many people in HotS

Predictions

Group A: MarineKing, Yonghwa

Group B: Creator, Ryung

Group C: KeeN, HerO

Group D: aLive, BBoong

Group E: Rain, Sniper (this group is just unfair! poor ByuN...)
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Powerfoe
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada167 Posts
February 28 2013 09:38 GMT
#44
PREDICTIONS:
A: Yonghwa, MarineKing
B: EffOrt, Shine
C: Keen, Maru
D: aLive, Avenge
E: Sniper, Rain
NOW YOU SEE?
winthrop
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Hong Kong956 Posts
February 28 2013 09:40 GMT
#45
oh nestea..
a very hard group
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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
February 28 2013 09:42 GMT
#46
On February 28 2013 18:13 rasender872 wrote:
A yonghwa deserves the sopt most, but he has always had issues whit up and downs so stephano and mkp rooting for yonghwa tough.
B creater, effort, obius picks i´d say.
C Hero, Nestea (hopefully)
D bboongboong and avenge. Cos i feel like it.
E Sniper and Rain. nothing to say.


I think Yonghwa has only been to U&D once (has been in Code A/S for long) and he had issues with his eyes that day. So I am not sure if he has specific issues with U&D. Looking at his team league perfermance (Bo1s against multiple players/races), his style should be pretty good for U&D and he doesn't seem to have a very weak matchup.
ke_ivan
Profile Joined February 2011
Singapore374 Posts
February 28 2013 09:43 GMT
#47
On February 28 2013 18:11 TheBB wrote:
                      1st      2nd      3rd      4th      5th    
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Stephano 39.84% 22.99% 17.13% 13.56% 6.48%
MarineKing 28.59% 27.46% 20.47% 15.38% 8.10%
Yonghwa 14.88% 18.79% 21.64% 22.37% 22.32%
Lure 10.36% 17.36% 23.01% 24.59% 24.68%
trust 6.32% 13.40% 17.76% 24.10% 38.42%
Estimated by Aligulac. Make another.
                   1st      2nd      3rd      4th      5th      6th    
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Creator 28.65% 22.31% 18.86% 14.60% 10.38% 5.19%
Ryung 24.67% 22.21% 19.65% 15.85% 11.53% 6.09%
EffOrt 21.10% 21.20% 20.32% 17.20% 13.10% 7.09%
Killer 17.46% 18.77% 18.44% 17.93% 16.08% 11.32%
Center 5.44% 9.65% 12.98% 18.25% 24.19% 29.49%
Shine 2.68% 5.86% 9.75% 16.16% 24.73% 40.82%
Estimated by Aligulac. Make another.
                   1st      2nd      3rd      4th      5th    
--------------------------------------------------------------
HerO 28.36% 22.19% 19.62% 17.45% 12.37%
Maru 23.03% 21.29% 20.56% 19.27% 15.85%
Keen 19.90% 20.72% 21.03% 20.29% 18.06%
NesTea 18.87% 19.98% 20.46% 20.45% 20.24%
FanTaSy 9.85% 15.81% 18.32% 22.54% 33.47%
Estimated by Aligulac. Make another.
                        1st      2nd      3rd      4th      5th      6th    
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
BBoongBBoong 24.58% 19.95% 17.70% 14.99% 12.95% 9.82%
aLive 22.80% 19.63% 17.72% 15.43% 13.66% 10.76%
Crazy 18.58% 18.28% 17.73% 16.68% 15.60% 13.13%
Noblesse 13.88% 15.77% 16.53% 17.40% 17.99% 18.43%
LabyRinth 10.77% 13.72% 15.53% 17.79% 19.55% 22.64%
Avenge 9.38% 12.64% 14.79% 17.71% 20.25% 25.23%
Estimated by Aligulac. Make another.
                  1st      2nd      3rd      4th      5th      6th    
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Rain 33.97% 22.85% 17.39% 12.55% 8.70% 4.54%
Sniper 25.30% 22.18% 19.01% 15.18% 11.73% 6.61%
soO 15.90% 18.73% 19.60% 18.65% 16.41% 10.71%
ByuN 13.77% 17.10% 18.00% 18.52% 18.27% 14.34%
Flying 7.98% 12.90% 16.13% 19.77% 22.27% 20.95%
Bbyong 3.08% 6.24% 9.87% 15.33% 22.62% 42.84%
Estimated by Aligulac. Make another.


damns this is cool!
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 28 2013 09:49 GMT
#48
Aligulac says MKP should get top 2 so I can live with that :D
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blackone
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1314 Posts
February 28 2013 09:51 GMT
#49
It also says that Stephano has the highest chance out of everyone to be first in his group. Which is absolutely ridiculous.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-28 09:52:56
February 28 2013 09:52 GMT
#50
Are Khaldor & Wolf casting all of these?
Gonna be two straight days with 8 hours of casting each day...
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Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-28 09:57:50
February 28 2013 09:56 GMT
#51
On February 28 2013 17:36 opterown wrote:
ho damn. prime's groups are bearable i guess, at least for MKP and creator. byun and maru have a tough time

A: yonghwa, marineking
B: effort, creator
C: hero, maru
D: bboongbboong, alive?? weak group
E: sniper, rain


you forget its WOL so i dont think stephano will go down in a group with 3 protoss players

On February 28 2013 18:51 blackone wrote:
It also says that Stephano has the highest chance out of everyone to be first in his group. Which is absolutely ridiculous.


no ? is not its WOL so ... yonghwa's pvz isnt amazing the other protoss players are below stephanos skill and marineking vs stephano is always close but marineking will have way more problems vs the protoss players so yes stephano HAS the biggest chances
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-28 10:03:15
February 28 2013 10:00 GMT
#52
On February 28 2013 18:56 CoR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 17:36 opterown wrote:
ho damn. prime's groups are bearable i guess, at least for MKP and creator. byun and maru have a tough time

A: yonghwa, marineking
B: effort, creator
C: hero, maru
D: bboongbboong, alive?? weak group
E: sniper, rain


you forget its WOL so i dont think stephano will go down in a group with 3 protoss players

stephano has been playing a lot of hots, it will not be easy for him. lure and yonghwa are pretty good pvz too

marineking is not going to struggle against protoss more than stephano does haha. MKP is 146–40 (78%) against protoss, and the vast majority of that is korean protoss too, unlike stephano's vsP winrates
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mongmong
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)1389 Posts
February 28 2013 10:01 GMT
#53
On February 28 2013 18:56 CoR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 17:36 opterown wrote:
ho damn. prime's groups are bearable i guess, at least for MKP and creator. byun and maru have a tough time

A: yonghwa, marineking
B: effort, creator
C: hero, maru
D: bboongbboong, alive?? weak group
E: sniper, rain


you forget its WOL so i dont think stephano will go down in a group with 3 protoss players

Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 18:51 blackone wrote:
It also says that Stephano has the highest chance out of everyone to be first in his group. Which is absolutely ridiculous.


no ? is not its WOL so ... yonghwa's pvz isnt amazing the other protoss players are below stephanos skill and marineking vs stephano is always close but marineking will have way more problems vs the protoss players so yes stephano HAS the biggest chances



MKP's vs protoss is actually his best matchup
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
February 28 2013 10:02 GMT
#54
Very doable for HerO I feel! Liking it :D
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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
February 28 2013 10:07 GMT
#55
FantaSy could get through on that group :O
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EyesOnMe
Profile Joined February 2013
57 Posts
February 28 2013 10:07 GMT
#56
m
k
p!!!
blackone
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1314 Posts
February 28 2013 10:07 GMT
#57
On February 28 2013 18:56 CoR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 17:36 opterown wrote:
ho damn. prime's groups are bearable i guess, at least for MKP and creator. byun and maru have a tough time

A: yonghwa, marineking
B: effort, creator
C: hero, maru
D: bboongbboong, alive?? weak group
E: sniper, rain


you forget its WOL so i dont think stephano will go down in a group with 3 protoss players

Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 18:51 blackone wrote:
It also says that Stephano has the highest chance out of everyone to be first in his group. Which is absolutely ridiculous.


no ? is not its WOL so ... yonghwa's pvz isnt amazing the other protoss players are below stephanos skill and marineking vs stephano is always close but marineking will have way more problems vs the protoss players so yes stephano HAS the biggest chances


Marinekings TvP is 54-28 (65.85%), also 7-3 in his last 10. Stephano is 5-5. MKP is not going to have "way more problems vs the protoss players".
Inzan1ty
Profile Joined September 2012
1163 Posts
February 28 2013 10:14 GMT
#58
On February 28 2013 19:00 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 18:56 CoR wrote:
On February 28 2013 17:36 opterown wrote:
ho damn. prime's groups are bearable i guess, at least for MKP and creator. byun and maru have a tough time

A: yonghwa, marineking
B: effort, creator
C: hero, maru
D: bboongbboong, alive?? weak group
E: sniper, rain


you forget its WOL so i dont think stephano will go down in a group with 3 protoss players

stephano has been playing a lot of hots, it will not be easy for him. lure and yonghwa are pretty good pvz too

marineking is not going to struggle against protoss more than stephano does haha. MKP is 146–40 (78%) against protoss, and the vast majority of that is korean protoss too, unlike stephano's vsP winrates


Dat brag, haha !

While not particulary liking both of them, I actually root for MKP against Stephano.....

wow that feels weird... oO
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massivez
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium653 Posts
February 28 2013 10:23 GMT
#59
Is there a Wildcard group this season?
Hermanoid
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden213 Posts
February 28 2013 10:40 GMT
#60
Group E takes it for me, it's the most evenly matched. The other groups will be faceoffs between two (three in the case of group C) players.
xyzåäö
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
February 28 2013 10:55 GMT
#61
Stephano can't complain about the draw I'd say. I would bet on him to requalify for Code S.
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
February 28 2013 11:24 GMT
#62
Firstly: all these groups are sick.

Secondly:
A - Yongwha, MKP
B - Effort, Creator
C - Keen, Nestea
D - B4, Crazy
E - Sniper, Rain

E far and away the group of death because it has 6 good players whereas group C is a group of 5. Group D is shockingly inferior in names to every other group haha. Luck of the draw hey.
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smogg
Profile Joined September 2011
Bulgaria167 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-28 11:28:42
February 28 2013 11:26 GMT
#63
WTF Group D so weak....
A - Pano, MKP
B - Center, Ryung/Creator
C - HerO, KeeN
D - 4B, Avenge
E - Rain, soO
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TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
February 28 2013 11:37 GMT
#64
Group A: MKP and winner of YongHwa v. Lure

Group B: Ryung and Creator

Group C: Keen and Fantasy

Group D: Alive and Noblesse

Group E: Rain and Sniper
#TheOneTrueDong
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
February 28 2013 11:40 GMT
#65
In group E they should replace ByuN with Fantasy and Sniper with Effort and call it "kEspa hEll"
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
February 28 2013 11:47 GMT
#66
Fantasy can definitely make it out of that group. The one I'm cheering for the most this up and down. Go Fantasy!
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catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3829 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-28 12:06:24
February 28 2013 12:05 GMT
#67
Avenge vs B4 up/down rematch!

Anyone remember this game? It was the last set of the group where the winner would advance to Code S. Ridiculous voidray micro from Avenge and an even more ridiculous hold from B4.

No tosses in Avenge's group, it's certainly manageable.

I think it's finally time to admit it might not be the year of Pet
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
February 28 2013 12:15 GMT
#68
That's pretty much the best group MarineKing could have hoped for. Which will only make the disappointment greater if he fails ((
GOGOGO MarineKing!
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
February 28 2013 12:18 GMT
#69
Really hope Crazy and MKP Advances
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
February 28 2013 12:22 GMT
#70
Ah, the very final WoL games...

Go HerO! Back to Code S!
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 28 2013 12:23 GMT
#71
On February 28 2013 21:22 Proseat wrote:
Ah, the very final WoL games...

Go HerO! Back to Code S!

these are before the GSL finals, as well as IPL6 WoL :p
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Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
February 28 2013 12:35 GMT
#72
I've seen some posts in this thread assuming there's no wild card group and Code S seeds will be brought back. Is there something that makes people believe this? I assumed the wild card group was a permanent thing from here on out and it doesn't need to be mentioned because it should be assumed.
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 28 2013 12:35 GMT
#73
On February 28 2013 21:35 Kiyo. wrote:
I've seen some posts in this thread assuming there's no wild card group and Code S seeds will be brought back. Is there something that makes people believe this? I assumed the wild card group was a permanent thing from here on out and it doesn't need to be mentioned because it should be assumed.

there's nothing scheduled and no possible time for it, if you look at the calendar. unless they do it on march 11 or something strange, a week after
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Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
February 28 2013 12:39 GMT
#74
On February 28 2013 21:35 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 21:35 Kiyo. wrote:
I've seen some posts in this thread assuming there's no wild card group and Code S seeds will be brought back. Is there something that makes people believe this? I assumed the wild card group was a permanent thing from here on out and it doesn't need to be mentioned because it should be assumed.

there's nothing scheduled and no possible time for it, if you look at the calendar. unless they do it on march 11 or something strange, a week after


Why can't it be done on the 7th/8th?
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HaniStream
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada50 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-28 12:43:19
February 28 2013 12:39 GMT
#75
Race, ID, Team. At least race is in the good column

Also, go HerO!
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
February 28 2013 12:41 GMT
#76
Stephano's group looks so rigged, I cant think of an easier group for him no zergs, not the best players apart from MKP. Let's hope he can make it out of this one at least.
Bjarne
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany192 Posts
February 28 2013 12:44 GMT
#77
On February 28 2013 18:09 iNcontroL wrote:
really hoping stephano makes it out >_< He has the potential but training HotS is hard on the WoL >_<


With a potential CodeS-spot and the WoL IEM on the line i really hoped he goes ALL-IN on WoL for a last time.

In HotS no zerg will win anything the first 3 months...

GL!!
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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
February 28 2013 12:49 GMT
#78
In HotS no zerg will win anything the first 3 months...


After Violet, Hyun and Ragnarok's performances at the GSTL, are you really so sure about that?
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 28 2013 12:52 GMT
#79
On February 28 2013 21:39 Kiyo. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 21:35 opterown wrote:
On February 28 2013 21:35 Kiyo. wrote:
I've seen some posts in this thread assuming there's no wild card group and Code S seeds will be brought back. Is there something that makes people believe this? I assumed the wild card group was a permanent thing from here on out and it doesn't need to be mentioned because it should be assumed.

there's nothing scheduled and no possible time for it, if you look at the calendar. unless they do it on march 11 or something strange, a week after


Why can't it be done on the 7th/8th?

they're preparing for code S finals on the 9th, need to move to location, get set up, etc
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 28 2013 12:52 GMT
#80
On February 28 2013 21:44 Bjarne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 18:09 iNcontroL wrote:
really hoping stephano makes it out >_< He has the potential but training HotS is hard on the WoL >_<


With a potential CodeS-spot and the WoL IEM on the line i really hoped he goes ALL-IN on WoL for a last time.

In HotS no zerg will win anything the first 3 months...

GL!!

IEM is hots
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priestnoob
Profile Joined August 2011
243 Posts
February 28 2013 12:53 GMT
#81
On February 28 2013 21:44 Bjarne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 18:09 iNcontroL wrote:
really hoping stephano makes it out >_< He has the potential but training HotS is hard on the WoL >_<


With a potential CodeS-spot and the WoL IEM on the line i really hoped he goes ALL-IN on WoL for a last time.

In HotS no zerg will win anything the first 3 months...

GL!!


IEM is HotS.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
February 28 2013 12:58 GMT
#82
On February 28 2013 18:09 iNcontroL wrote:
really hoping stephano makes it out >_< He has the potential but training HotS is hard on the WoL >_<


Thank god beta goes down today, so he can power some wol on the weekend! I am sure he will make it when he doesn't have to care about zvz .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
NKB
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom608 Posts
February 28 2013 12:58 GMT
#83
From looking at the groups, I have to say that C imo is the group of death, on a good day all of those players can dominate, but on a bad day they can all have troubles.
Some times you just gotta wish...
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
February 28 2013 13:02 GMT
#84
I doubt stephano will attend this since IEM is almost at the same time. Interesting groups first HotS season is looking really good playerwise.
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DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
February 28 2013 13:03 GMT
#85
On February 28 2013 17:47 stuchiu wrote:
Sniper got screwed, there's only 1 fan favorite he can kill in his group.


Nonsense, there's plenty of KeSPA fanboys he can piss off!
I really don't want to call groups for a HotS tournament, all I can say is a lot of the elephants that got into Code S probably won't be there for long since they can't practice it yet
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-28 14:44:17
February 28 2013 13:06 GMT
#86
On February 28 2013 22:02 Weavel wrote:
I doubt stephano will attend this since IEM is almost at the same time. Interesting groups first HotS season is looking really good playerwise.


Stephano is in group D at IEM so his first games will be on the 7th. Stephano will play, Incontrol pretty much confirmed it too.

Update: Sadly Stephano stated that he will not play in the up & downs .

From his stream chat:

anjellycar: musicus90: Yes I'm sorry. =( "EGStephano: Sadly I will not attend to up and down as I am flying 2 hours before my game starts."
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
February 28 2013 13:14 GMT
#87
On February 28 2013 18:11 TheBB wrote:
                      1st      2nd      3rd      4th      5th    
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Stephano 39.84% 22.99% 17.13% 13.56% 6.48%
MarineKing 28.59% 27.46% 20.47% 15.38% 8.10%
Yonghwa 14.88% 18.79% 21.64% 22.37% 22.32%
Lure 10.36% 17.36% 23.01% 24.59% 24.68%
trust 6.32% 13.40% 17.76% 24.10% 38.42%
Estimated by Aligulac. Make another.
                   1st      2nd      3rd      4th      5th      6th    
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Creator 28.65% 22.31% 18.86% 14.60% 10.38% 5.19%
Ryung 24.67% 22.21% 19.65% 15.85% 11.53% 6.09%
EffOrt 21.10% 21.20% 20.32% 17.20% 13.10% 7.09%
Killer 17.46% 18.77% 18.44% 17.93% 16.08% 11.32%
Center 5.44% 9.65% 12.98% 18.25% 24.19% 29.49%
Shine 2.68% 5.86% 9.75% 16.16% 24.73% 40.82%
Estimated by Aligulac. Make another.
                   1st      2nd      3rd      4th      5th    
--------------------------------------------------------------
HerO 28.36% 22.19% 19.62% 17.45% 12.37%
Maru 23.03% 21.29% 20.56% 19.27% 15.85%
Keen 19.90% 20.72% 21.03% 20.29% 18.06%
NesTea 18.87% 19.98% 20.46% 20.45% 20.24%
FanTaSy 9.85% 15.81% 18.32% 22.54% 33.47%
Estimated by Aligulac. Make another.
                        1st      2nd      3rd      4th      5th      6th    
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
BBoongBBoong 24.58% 19.95% 17.70% 14.99% 12.95% 9.82%
aLive 22.80% 19.63% 17.72% 15.43% 13.66% 10.76%
Crazy 18.58% 18.28% 17.73% 16.68% 15.60% 13.13%
Noblesse 13.88% 15.77% 16.53% 17.40% 17.99% 18.43%
LabyRinth 10.77% 13.72% 15.53% 17.79% 19.55% 22.64%
Avenge 9.38% 12.64% 14.79% 17.71% 20.25% 25.23%
Estimated by Aligulac. Make another.
                  1st      2nd      3rd      4th      5th      6th    
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Rain 33.97% 22.85% 17.39% 12.55% 8.70% 4.54%
Sniper 25.30% 22.18% 19.01% 15.18% 11.73% 6.61%
soO 15.90% 18.73% 19.60% 18.65% 16.41% 10.71%
ByuN 13.77% 17.10% 18.00% 18.52% 18.27% 14.34%
Flying 7.98% 12.90% 16.13% 19.77% 22.27% 20.95%
Bbyong 3.08% 6.24% 9.87% 15.33% 22.62% 42.84%
Estimated by Aligulac. Make another.


this definately seems to be one of those cases where ELO screws up completely.. Stephano being that high is weird so is Fantasy being that low.. Too much foreigner events for the first and lack of data for the latter?
Bjarne
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany192 Posts
February 28 2013 13:16 GMT
#88
On February 28 2013 21:49 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
In HotS no zerg will win anything the first 3 months...


After Violet, Hyun and Ragnarok's performances at the GSTL, are you really so sure about that?



Not 100% sure, but as zerg is a very reactive race, they need to figure out the others first. In addition, zerg seems not to be too strong overall in HotS...

Violet lost against Taeja in the MLG Showdown, although Taeja is most likely ONLY practicing WoL because of CodeS Semifinal...

Still believe in zergs having a hard time on HotS...

@IEM
Sorry, was sure that its WoL as IPL is WoL too and later....
MMA II DeMuslim II MKP II JD II IdrA II HuK II Leenock II Stephano II
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-28 13:24:30
February 28 2013 13:22 GMT
#89
On February 28 2013 22:16 Bjarne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 21:49 Qikz wrote:
In HotS no zerg will win anything the first 3 months...


After Violet, Hyun and Ragnarok's performances at the GSTL, are you really so sure about that?



Not 100% sure, but as zerg is a very reactive race, they need to figure out the others first. In addition, zerg seems not to be too strong overall in HotS...

Violet lost against Taeja in the MLG Showdown, although Taeja is most likely ONLY practicing WoL because of CodeS Semifinal...

Still believe in zergs having a hard time on HotS...

@IEM
Sorry, was sure that its WoL as IPL is WoL too and later....


All the races are reactive... How many terrans have died because they did spot the roaches until it was too late? Or when Protoss does immortal all in. Or mech terrans die to roach switch...
SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
February 28 2013 13:27 GMT
#90
I think LabyRinth has a good chance of making it out of Group along with aLive or B4.
hotcoco
Profile Joined January 2013
United Arab Emirates20 Posts
February 28 2013 13:44 GMT
#91
I thought Grubby was comin to play in GSL? Is he one of the two missing slots?
"Life is weaker than Death and Death is weaker than Truth"
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
February 28 2013 14:08 GMT
#92
On February 28 2013 22:44 hotcoco wrote:
I thought Grubby was comin to play in GSL? Is he one of the two missing slots?


He was already seeded before. He is staying at FXO and will play in GSTL.
partydude89
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1850 Posts
February 28 2013 14:13 GMT
#93
cmon stephano! pull it together for EG!
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Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-28 14:17:04
February 28 2013 14:16 GMT
#94
isn't Labyrinth a trainee? And who is CJ_Trust? Neither of them has ever played in PL iirc.
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Khaldor
Profile Joined March 2008
Germany861 Posts
February 28 2013 14:43 GMT
#95
On February 28 2013 18:52 Inflicted_ wrote:
Are Khaldor & Wolf casting all of these?
Gonna be two straight days with 8 hours of casting each day...


Yes we'll cast all of them. And it's going to be a lot more than 8 hours.
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bosnia
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada223 Posts
February 28 2013 14:49 GMT
#96
nice gl to all
TL member since 2002, Protoss ftw!!
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-28 14:50:22
February 28 2013 14:50 GMT
#97
On February 28 2013 23:43 Khaldor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 18:52 Inflicted_ wrote:
Are Khaldor & Wolf casting all of these?
Gonna be two straight days with 8 hours of casting each day...


Yes we'll cast all of them. And it's going to be a lot more than 8 hours.


Well, otherwise it wouldn't be a challenge for you . Btw will they change the groups since Stephano won't play? Group A would only have 4 players then, while others have 6.

From his stream chat:

Anjellycar: "EGStephano: Sadly I will not attend to up and down as I am flying 2 hours before my game starts."
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
February 28 2013 15:00 GMT
#98
On February 28 2013 23:43 Khaldor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 18:52 Inflicted_ wrote:
Are Khaldor & Wolf casting all of these?
Gonna be two straight days with 8 hours of casting each day...


Yes we'll cast all of them. And it's going to be a lot more than 8 hours.


Good luck to you guys, if anyone can endure long days, its you two.

I look forward to the last few sets of lunacy :D
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wajd
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
240 Posts
February 28 2013 15:07 GMT
#99
is this WOL or HOTS ?
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
February 28 2013 15:17 GMT
#100
On March 01 2013 00:07 wajd wrote:
is this WOL or HOTS ?


It's WoL!

http://www.gomtv.net/forum/view.gom?topicid=230610&cid=0&kind=8

Dear GOMTV.net users,

We are now entering a new realm of competition as this will be the first season of GSL with the new expansion “Heart of the Swarm”! We are very excited to see what the players have in store for us as they have been heavily preparing to show off their skills in this new game.

However, as the Up&Down Matches are a sequel to GSL Code A, these will be the very last matches in “Wings of Liberty” in the GSL. When you look at the groups, you can see that even in its last breath, “Wings of Liberty” will still continue give us intense matches until the very end.

The beginning of the end starts on March 4th 11:10 (KST). Will Stephano make Code S? Will MarineKing falter? Find out only at the GSL!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
ChaosArcher
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany956 Posts
February 28 2013 15:19 GMT
#101
On February 28 2013 22:06 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 22:02 Weavel wrote:
I doubt stephano will attend this since IEM is almost at the same time. Interesting groups first HotS season is looking really good playerwise.


Stephano is in group D at IEM so his first games will be on the 7th. Stephano will play, Incontrol pretty much confirmed it too.

Update: Sadly Stephano stated that he will not play in the up & downs .

From his stream chat:

Show nested quote +
anjellycar: musicus90: Yes I'm sorry. =( "EGStephano: Sadly I will not attend to up and down as I am flying 2 hours before my game starts."



Noooooooooooooooo =(
GunSec
Profile Joined February 2010
1095 Posts
February 28 2013 15:26 GMT
#102
so he is not going back to korea anymore?
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
February 28 2013 15:27 GMT
#103
On March 01 2013 00:19 ChaosArcher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 22:06 Musicus wrote:
On February 28 2013 22:02 Weavel wrote:
I doubt stephano will attend this since IEM is almost at the same time. Interesting groups first HotS season is looking really good playerwise.


Stephano is in group D at IEM so his first games will be on the 7th. Stephano will play, Incontrol pretty much confirmed it too.

Update: Sadly Stephano stated that he will not play in the up & downs .

From his stream chat:

anjellycar: musicus90: Yes I'm sorry. =( "EGStephano: Sadly I will not attend to up and down as I am flying 2 hours before my game starts."



Noooooooooooooooo =(


Wierd, so group A will be 4 man? (assuming Yonghwa will play before flying over to IEM.)
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-28 15:40:52
February 28 2013 15:32 GMT
#104
On March 01 2013 00:26 GunSec wrote:
so he is not going back to korea anymore?


Pretty sure Stephano will still live in Korea for a while and play Code A and Pro League.

Edit: Speaking of Pro League, he is supposed to play SKT Paralyze on the same day ^^, wonder who will replace him or if it's just an autowin for SKT, since they are pretty strict. Something went wrong with planning Stephano's week here .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Akaann
Profile Joined May 2011
Switzerland82 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-28 15:51:29
February 28 2013 15:49 GMT
#105
Really hope MKP make it to Code S! Think his chances are good Go MKP!

Group C is pretty sick 0.o Difficult task for Maru and Hero^^
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44255 Posts
February 28 2013 15:56 GMT
#106
Stephano's third (and final?) chance to prove himself in the GSL... although he really couldn't have asked for a much easier group (considering it's the GSL). Far from a group of death right there. Let's see if he can get through (with MKP or Yonghwa?).
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
February 28 2013 15:56 GMT
#107
On February 28 2013 22:14 Markwerf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 18:11 TheBB wrote:
                      1st      2nd      3rd      4th      5th    
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Stephano 39.84% 22.99% 17.13% 13.56% 6.48%
MarineKing 28.59% 27.46% 20.47% 15.38% 8.10%
Yonghwa 14.88% 18.79% 21.64% 22.37% 22.32%
Lure 10.36% 17.36% 23.01% 24.59% 24.68%
trust 6.32% 13.40% 17.76% 24.10% 38.42%
Estimated by Aligulac. Make another.
                   1st      2nd      3rd      4th      5th      6th    
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Creator 28.65% 22.31% 18.86% 14.60% 10.38% 5.19%
Ryung 24.67% 22.21% 19.65% 15.85% 11.53% 6.09%
EffOrt 21.10% 21.20% 20.32% 17.20% 13.10% 7.09%
Killer 17.46% 18.77% 18.44% 17.93% 16.08% 11.32%
Center 5.44% 9.65% 12.98% 18.25% 24.19% 29.49%
Shine 2.68% 5.86% 9.75% 16.16% 24.73% 40.82%
Estimated by Aligulac. Make another.
                   1st      2nd      3rd      4th      5th    
--------------------------------------------------------------
HerO 28.36% 22.19% 19.62% 17.45% 12.37%
Maru 23.03% 21.29% 20.56% 19.27% 15.85%
Keen 19.90% 20.72% 21.03% 20.29% 18.06%
NesTea 18.87% 19.98% 20.46% 20.45% 20.24%
FanTaSy 9.85% 15.81% 18.32% 22.54% 33.47%
Estimated by Aligulac. Make another.
                        1st      2nd      3rd      4th      5th      6th    
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
BBoongBBoong 24.58% 19.95% 17.70% 14.99% 12.95% 9.82%
aLive 22.80% 19.63% 17.72% 15.43% 13.66% 10.76%
Crazy 18.58% 18.28% 17.73% 16.68% 15.60% 13.13%
Noblesse 13.88% 15.77% 16.53% 17.40% 17.99% 18.43%
LabyRinth 10.77% 13.72% 15.53% 17.79% 19.55% 22.64%
Avenge 9.38% 12.64% 14.79% 17.71% 20.25% 25.23%
Estimated by Aligulac. Make another.
                  1st      2nd      3rd      4th      5th      6th    
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Rain 33.97% 22.85% 17.39% 12.55% 8.70% 4.54%
Sniper 25.30% 22.18% 19.01% 15.18% 11.73% 6.61%
soO 15.90% 18.73% 19.60% 18.65% 16.41% 10.71%
ByuN 13.77% 17.10% 18.00% 18.52% 18.27% 14.34%
Flying 7.98% 12.90% 16.13% 19.77% 22.27% 20.95%
Bbyong 3.08% 6.24% 9.87% 15.33% 22.62% 42.84%
Estimated by Aligulac. Make another.

this definately seems to be one of those cases where ELO screws up completely.. Stephano being that high is weird so is Fantasy being that low.. Too much foreigner events for the first and lack of data for the latter?

Maybe.

And PSA: For crying out loud, I'm tired of hearing people call «Elo» for «ELO» (it's a name, not an acronym), and I'm tired of hearing people call Aligulac either of them. It's a different system ffs....
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-28 16:03:05
February 28 2013 16:01 GMT
#108
On March 01 2013 00:56 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Stephano's third (and final?) chance to prove himself in the GSL... although he really couldn't have asked for a much easier group (considering it's the GSL). Far from a group of death right there. Let's see if he can get through (with MKP or Yonghwa?).


I don't think it's his final chance right? Should still be in code A either way. Sadly he will not play at all it seems (check top of this page). Really sucks since he had a really nice group.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
AzBozz
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany518 Posts
February 28 2013 16:03 GMT
#109
goo teaam prime!!!!!
MMA | MVP|Teaja|Polt|MKP|Byun|Maru|Thorzain|Creator|HasuObs|Socke|Lucifron|Vortix|Mana|Heromarine / PRIME and Mousesports fighting!!
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44255 Posts
February 28 2013 16:04 GMT
#110
On March 01 2013 01:01 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 00:56 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Stephano's third (and final?) chance to prove himself in the GSL... although he really couldn't have asked for a much easier group (considering it's the GSL). Far from a group of death right there. Let's see if he can get through (with MKP or Yonghwa?).


I don't think it's his final chance right? Should still be in code A either way. Sadly he will not play at all it seems (check top of this page). Really sucks since he had a really nice group.


Ah that does seem to be the case.

I suppose it's certainly in his best interest, since he's more likely to perform better at IEM than in the GSL.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
February 28 2013 16:15 GMT
#111
On March 01 2013 01:04 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 01:01 Musicus wrote:
On March 01 2013 00:56 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Stephano's third (and final?) chance to prove himself in the GSL... although he really couldn't have asked for a much easier group (considering it's the GSL). Far from a group of death right there. Let's see if he can get through (with MKP or Yonghwa?).


I don't think it's his final chance right? Should still be in code A either way. Sadly he will not play at all it seems (check top of this page). Really sucks since he had a really nice group.


Ah that does seem to be the case.

I suppose it's certainly in his best interest, since he's more likely to perform better at IEM than in the GSL.


I agree, even though it also means not playing PL against SKT on monday, he can now fully concentrate on HOTS and when he is back in korea everything will be hots there too.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
February 28 2013 16:25 GMT
#112
On February 28 2013 17:55 Shellshock1122 wrote:
If MarineKing makes it to Code S he will be next in line for the NesTea award, along with DongRaeGu and Leenock who have already secured Code S, with 9 consecutive appearances.

That's actually nuts. Think about how long it took DRG to even make Code S. That we've only seen two NesTea awards since the START of SC2, and DRG didn't make Code S until well after the Super Tournament.....
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BulletCL
Profile Joined April 2012
Chile138 Posts
February 28 2013 17:07 GMT
#113
C'mon MKP!
What, you run out of marines?
KJDog
Profile Joined February 2012
United States164 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-28 17:49:49
February 28 2013 17:40 GMT
#114
A. Yonghwa, Stephano MKP
B. Effort, Creator
C. Keen, Fantasy
D. B4, Noblesse
E. Sniper, Rain

EDIT: IEM > GSL right Stephano?
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
February 28 2013 17:57 GMT
#115
So Stephano forfeits his matches, this means one of the groups that had 5 players now only has 4, while 3 groups still have 6 players? It seems very unfair to the players who have to play in 6 player groups.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 28 2013 18:12 GMT
#116
New prediction with Stephano forfeiting
                      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
--------------------------------------------------------
MarineKing 46.74% 25.68% 17.50% 10.08%
Yonghwa 20.96% 25.78% 27.04% 26.22%
Lure 19.25% 27.61% 27.81% 25.32%
trust 13.06% 20.93% 27.64% 38.38%
Estimated by Aligulac. Make another.
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sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
February 28 2013 18:21 GMT
#117
I think they need to move a player from one of the 6 player groups to make this fair.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 28 2013 18:27 GMT
#118
On February 28 2013 22:14 Markwerf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 18:11 TheBB wrote:
                      1st      2nd      3rd      4th      5th    
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Stephano 39.84% 22.99% 17.13% 13.56% 6.48%
MarineKing 28.59% 27.46% 20.47% 15.38% 8.10%
Yonghwa 14.88% 18.79% 21.64% 22.37% 22.32%
Lure 10.36% 17.36% 23.01% 24.59% 24.68%
trust 6.32% 13.40% 17.76% 24.10% 38.42%
Estimated by Aligulac. Make another.
                   1st      2nd      3rd      4th      5th      6th    
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Creator 28.65% 22.31% 18.86% 14.60% 10.38% 5.19%
Ryung 24.67% 22.21% 19.65% 15.85% 11.53% 6.09%
EffOrt 21.10% 21.20% 20.32% 17.20% 13.10% 7.09%
Killer 17.46% 18.77% 18.44% 17.93% 16.08% 11.32%
Center 5.44% 9.65% 12.98% 18.25% 24.19% 29.49%
Shine 2.68% 5.86% 9.75% 16.16% 24.73% 40.82%
Estimated by Aligulac. Make another.
                   1st      2nd      3rd      4th      5th    
--------------------------------------------------------------
HerO 28.36% 22.19% 19.62% 17.45% 12.37%
Maru 23.03% 21.29% 20.56% 19.27% 15.85%
Keen 19.90% 20.72% 21.03% 20.29% 18.06%
NesTea 18.87% 19.98% 20.46% 20.45% 20.24%
FanTaSy 9.85% 15.81% 18.32% 22.54% 33.47%
Estimated by Aligulac. Make another.
                        1st      2nd      3rd      4th      5th      6th    
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
BBoongBBoong 24.58% 19.95% 17.70% 14.99% 12.95% 9.82%
aLive 22.80% 19.63% 17.72% 15.43% 13.66% 10.76%
Crazy 18.58% 18.28% 17.73% 16.68% 15.60% 13.13%
Noblesse 13.88% 15.77% 16.53% 17.40% 17.99% 18.43%
LabyRinth 10.77% 13.72% 15.53% 17.79% 19.55% 22.64%
Avenge 9.38% 12.64% 14.79% 17.71% 20.25% 25.23%
Estimated by Aligulac. Make another.
                  1st      2nd      3rd      4th      5th      6th    
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Rain 33.97% 22.85% 17.39% 12.55% 8.70% 4.54%
Sniper 25.30% 22.18% 19.01% 15.18% 11.73% 6.61%
soO 15.90% 18.73% 19.60% 18.65% 16.41% 10.71%
ByuN 13.77% 17.10% 18.00% 18.52% 18.27% 14.34%
Flying 7.98% 12.90% 16.13% 19.77% 22.27% 20.95%
Bbyong 3.08% 6.24% 9.87% 15.33% 22.62% 42.84%
Estimated by Aligulac. Make another.


this definately seems to be one of those cases where ELO screws up completely.. Stephano being that high is weird so is Fantasy being that low.. Too much foreigner events for the first and lack of data for the latter?

fantasy has not exactly been doing well lately
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Gatesleeper
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada300 Posts
February 28 2013 19:32 GMT
#119
Why can't they just wait a couple of weeks and make them play HotS? It's stupid to force these players to practice/play WoL, especially since they're qualifying for a season that is going to be played in HotS.

They make IEM World Championship HotS, they make the first HotS season's Up/Down's WoL, this shit cray.
LiLSighKoh
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States588 Posts
February 28 2013 20:24 GMT
#120
Team aLive let's go!
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Otis Jenkins
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada14 Posts
February 28 2013 20:30 GMT
#121
On March 01 2013 02:40 KJDog wrote:

EDIT: IEM > GSL right Stephano?

That's completely subjective.
Hey, if people aren't mad at you, you're doing something wrong.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 28 2013 20:38 GMT
#122
On March 01 2013 03:21 sitromit wrote:
I think they need to move a player from one of the 6 player groups to make this fair.

How would you decide who the move? The fairest thing would be to remake all of the groups randomly but that wouldn't happen. It would also fuck someone over because it would move up their play time giving them less time to prepare with a different group.
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
February 28 2013 20:48 GMT
#123
On March 01 2013 05:38 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 03:21 sitromit wrote:
I think they need to move a player from one of the 6 player groups to make this fair.

How would you decide who the move? The fairest thing would be to remake all of the groups randomly but that wouldn't happen. It would also fuck someone over because it would move up their play time giving them less time to prepare with a different group.


I do hope that GSL remakes all the groups randomly. It's already unfair when there are 5 person and 6 person groups, but there is a huge difference between being in a 4 person group and a 6 person group.
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KJDog
Profile Joined February 2012
United States164 Posts
February 28 2013 21:51 GMT
#124
On March 01 2013 05:30 Otis Jenkins wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 02:40 KJDog wrote:

EDIT: IEM > GSL right Stephano?

That's completely subjective.


True.

For Stephano' sake, IEM is the better choice. Much better chance for a good paycheck there. I'm just a little tired of a lack of seriousness taken by foreigners in GSL that are not Huk or Naniwa.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
February 28 2013 22:01 GMT
#125
On March 01 2013 05:38 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 03:21 sitromit wrote:
I think they need to move a player from one of the 6 player groups to make this fair.

How would you decide who the move? The fairest thing would be to remake all of the groups randomly but that wouldn't happen. It would also fuck someone over because it would move up their play time giving them less time to prepare with a different group.

The groups were just announced, it's not like people have been training for days. Just a guess, but I bet the players from the 6 man groups wouldn't mind it at all.

They could do it one of two ways. They could just throw all the names in the 6 man groups in a hat, draw one, and move him to the 4 man group, or they could ask the players from the 6 man groups which one of them wants a chance to move to the 4 man group, and make a drawing between those.
asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
February 28 2013 23:07 GMT
#126
LETS GOOOO PRIMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
rip prime
Alstroemeria
Profile Joined February 2012
99 Posts
February 28 2013 23:28 GMT
#127
On March 01 2013 04:32 Gatesleeper wrote:
Why can't they just wait a couple of weeks and make them play HotS? It's stupid to force these players to practice/play WoL, especially since they're qualifying for a season that is going to be played in HotS.

They make IEM World Championship HotS, they make the first HotS season's Up/Down's WoL, this shit cray.


They probably don't wish to wait a few weeks, because it would be to close to the starting date of the next season of Code S(19th of March IIRC). That means there will be less time for groups and less player preparation.

Secondly, they are probably going to move things like booths and other production equipment in the coming days/week into the new studio.Having the up and downs at the new Gangnam studio(where not many people show up for) probably won't look as good as debuting the new studio with Code S( and HOTS)

If the HOTS stayed open up till release date they probably would've done it next week.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
February 28 2013 23:34 GMT
#128
I xould totaly see Center making it out of this group actually.
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neozxa
Profile Joined August 2011
Indonesia545 Posts
March 02 2013 03:04 GMT
#129
Really want Stephano and MarineKing to advance...
Keep moving forward
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-02 03:36:24
March 02 2013 03:17 GMT
#130
On March 01 2013 06:51 KJDog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 05:30 Otis Jenkins wrote:
On March 01 2013 02:40 KJDog wrote:

EDIT: IEM > GSL right Stephano?

That's completely subjective.


True.

For Stephano' sake, IEM is the better choice. Much better chance for a good paycheck there. I'm just a little tired of a lack of seriousness taken by foreigners in GSL that are not Huk or Naniwa.

Everybody is getting paid at this iem btw
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