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IEM Season 7 World Championship will be HotS - Page 8

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rpgalon
Profile Joined April 2011
Brazil1069 Posts
February 16 2013 13:02 GMT
#141
I don't know what to think about this, looks wrong but I do enjoy HotS more than WoL...
badog
sashqinCho
Profile Joined March 2011
Russian Federation131 Posts
February 17 2013 10:36 GMT
#142
1st IEM in WoL won Morrow with reapers) after they were nerfed

this IEM someone will win with hellbats, and they will be nerfed! IEM is hurting e-sport
asd
Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
February 17 2013 10:46 GMT
#143
On February 16 2013 16:30 Noam wrote:
It is such a bold move from ESL to forsake the single strong point they have compared to the other SC2 premier tournaments. Their flagship tournament's competitive value.

ESL always put competition first. Their qualifying system for each event was staggering with so many levels and multiple attempts for each player to qualify, ensuring the participating players are truly the best. It always had less invites compared to their flashy competitors, which seemed to base their invites on each player's amount of likes and followers, or the quality of their post-game ceremony.
This approach ultimately hurt them, with less hype and lower viewer counts for every one of their events.

However, it is time for business to come first. Competition will not get in the way this time. The chance to finally one-up MLG could not be passed. What's the worst thing that can happen? The casters will be forced to clench their teeth and cringe when tactics that only work on unbalanced yet-to-be released games win matches for $100,000?

And Blizzard... oh Blizzard. Did anyone seriously believe you would enforce any competitive value in the amazing eSports game you produced? We saw your eyes sparkle when ESL offered to sink at least $100k into your marketing campaigns for HotS. Your accountants will be happy. The fans who lost their passion for SC2:WoL will be happy. The players who qualified for IEM WC but did not care enough about it to stick to WoL will be happy as well. The rest of us, not so much.

ESL does so much to promote and build eSports from the ground up, with ridiculous amounts of prize money being handed out weekly in tournaments, available in all regions and levels. They promote eSports globally, by sending their premier event across the globe, visiting 4 continents in a single year.
This time, they chose business over competition. But we can't blame them for that, because Turtle Entertainment GmbH is firstly a business.

In 2 months we'll forget all about this. But in 2 years the lists of HotS champions will always have IEM as the first event.


Well said and completely agree with everything except the last sentence. I don't know about most people, but I consider Fruitdealer the first WoL champion, not Idra or Morrow from beta. I feel like both the IEM and possibly even MLG winners next month will be in that same category as Idra/Morrow, not Fruitdealer.
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4tre55
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany330 Posts
February 17 2013 10:47 GMT
#144
I really don't get why there are so many upset people hating again...

The more tournaments switch to HotS asap, the earlier all players get a chance to get good at it. It's mostly those tournaments that that stay WoL where they could switch the hurt their players.
furo
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany449 Posts
February 17 2013 10:49 GMT
#145
i like it, the players play HOTS anyway....
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-17 10:50:41
February 17 2013 10:49 GMT
#146
Excellent decision imo and happy that Blizzard supports this with their private servers.

I personally am completely done with Wol and have no interest in it anymore, and i am sure many players feel the same. After all, a lot of players watch tournaments to improve themselves and watching Wol does not help in that regard.
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
Mariosatr
Profile Joined September 2012
294 Posts
February 17 2013 11:11 GMT
#147
On February 16 2013 00:13 Ballack wrote:
IEM just uppercutted MLG. I'm really excited, gogo SNUTE!

Haha, this

I'm rooting for Kas/Snute here.
A mind sharper than any blade.
elanobissen
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark244 Posts
February 17 2013 11:31 GMT
#148
Kas recently said that he is practicing WoL as he thought that IEM would be WoL. He along with the other players must feel so screwed now:<
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
February 17 2013 11:46 GMT
#149
On February 17 2013 20:31 elanobissen wrote:
Kas recently said that he is practicing WoL as he thought that IEM would be WoL. He along with the other players must feel so screwed now:<


Screwed why? It's not like someone else was noted earlier about this than him. Everyone is equal in this position.
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
saksy2
Profile Joined May 2011
Norway520 Posts
February 17 2013 11:54 GMT
#150
On February 17 2013 20:46 ALPINA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2013 20:31 elanobissen wrote:
Kas recently said that he is practicing WoL as he thought that IEM would be WoL. He along with the other players must feel so screwed now:<


Screwed why? It's not like someone else was noted earlier about this than him. Everyone is equal in this position.

Most of the other qualified players had at least started to transition into HotS. Mainly Kas, Snute, and Vortix has been exclusively been practising WoL the last month.
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
February 17 2013 12:00 GMT
#151
On February 17 2013 20:54 saksy2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2013 20:46 ALPINA wrote:
On February 17 2013 20:31 elanobissen wrote:
Kas recently said that he is practicing WoL as he thought that IEM would be WoL. He along with the other players must feel so screwed now:<


Screwed why? It's not like someone else was noted earlier about this than him. Everyone is equal in this position.

Most of the other qualified players had at least started to transition into HotS. Mainly Kas, Snute, and Vortix has been exclusively been practising WoL the last month.


Why does it matter who was practicing what? Everyone was noted at the same time about IEM being hots.
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12029 Posts
February 17 2013 12:02 GMT
#152
On February 17 2013 19:49 ALPINA wrote:
Excellent decision imo and happy that Blizzard supports this with their private servers.

I personally am completely done with Wol and have no interest in it anymore, and i am sure many players feel the same. After all, a lot of players watch tournaments to improve themselves and watching Wol does not help in that regard.


Pretty much the same as me. I've had a lot of problems actually enjoying proleague/GSL since I got into the HoTS beta as I find it a hell of a lot more entertaining to play/watch streams of. This is a great move and it guarentees atleast people like me will tune in. I wouldn't have bothered if it was WoL.

I mean I'm still going to watch the last season of WoL GSL, only the games I want to though, same goes for Proleague.
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Cubu
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1171 Posts
February 17 2013 12:14 GMT
#153
If heart of the swarm becomes imbalanced, will they switch back to wings?
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10141 Posts
February 17 2013 12:19 GMT
#154
On February 17 2013 21:14 Cubu wrote:
If heart of the swarm becomes imbalanced, will they switch back to wings?


Hmm no.
habeck
Profile Joined February 2011
1120 Posts
February 17 2013 13:36 GMT
#155
I wouldnt watch it if it was WoL... But now, i will.
Pimpmuckl
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany528 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-17 14:33:56
February 17 2013 14:33 GMT
#156
Hmm i like it tbh. Like really really REALLY like it, gonna be so hyped up! :D

On February 17 2013 21:14 Cubu wrote:
If heart of the swarm becomes imbalanced, will they switch back to wings?


OH HELLO REAPERS! Early Wings reapers, best reapers!
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sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
February 17 2013 14:55 GMT
#157
Good, maybe this tournament exposes how ridiculous some things are in HotS, and Blizzard gets in a balance patch before MLG that does more than moving Overlord speed to Hatchery.
magnaflow
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1521 Posts
February 17 2013 15:20 GMT
#158
It's too early to be pushing HotS tournaments IMO, especially of this caliber with that much money on the line. We are going to be seeing some abusive boring games




azzih
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany98 Posts
February 17 2013 16:20 GMT
#159
On February 18 2013 00:20 magnaflow wrote:
It's too early to be pushing HotS tournaments IMO, especially of this caliber with that much money on the line. We are going to be seeing some abusive boring games


There were tournaments soon after SC2 vanilla was released, and the imbalance at that time was much bigger then now in HOTS beta. At that time maps were so good for terran tank abuses and reaper rushes it was a joke from our today's perspective.

Never the less we all had fun watching and i think we will have fun watching early HOTS tournaments even if balance isnt that perfect now.
Germany
Shadow_Dog
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada427 Posts
February 17 2013 16:22 GMT
#160
IMO solid play > HotS ub3r1337 stratz.
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