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Kenny_oro
Germany368 Posts
After functioning with FXO for two years, asd, Whale, and Sirius have decied to retire and to quit their SC2 pro gaming careers. We really appreciate all the hard work they put into SC2 and the team so we hope that you will join us in wishing them the best in their future endeavors and they they will be blessed in whatever they decide to pursue next!! 
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eGoRama
Bulgaria1542 Posts
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Ruscour
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MCXD
Australia2738 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On January 31 2013 18:57 MCXD wrote: That's a kinda big blow to FXO to be honest, and the SC2 scene. Such a shame... Real talk, they weren't going anywhere and tried hard to be successful for 2 years and couldn't make it, so they're moving on with their lives. Yeah It's sad if you're a fan of them but It's not a big blow to the sc2 scene at all. Good luck to the players with whatever they do next. | ||
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partydude89
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mYiKane
Canada1772 Posts
Serious... YEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!! User was warned for this post | ||
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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
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HornyHerring
Papua New Guinea1058 Posts
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PixelNite
France1008 Posts
On January 31 2013 18:58 partydude89 wrote: is this becuase they didn't get through the code A qualifiers? i mean, it why would they try to qualify, knowing they were going to retire? I think so, FXOTear said in his interview he would have retired if he didn't pass those preliminaries | ||
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Dasende
United States864 Posts
On January 31 2013 18:58 partydude89 wrote: is this becuase they didn't get through the code A qualifiers? i mean, it why would they try to qualify, knowing they were going to retire? They obviously wouldn't retire... if they qualified. They basically tried for one last hurrah and it didn't amount to anything. So it's just realistic they retire after trying for 2 years especially with KeSPA now on the scene. | ||
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hellokittySC2
United States395 Posts
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
On January 31 2013 18:58 partydude89 wrote: is this becuase they didn't get through the code A qualifiers? i mean, it why would they try to qualify, knowing they were going to retire? Probably. Tear actually had the same mindset going into the Code A qualifiers judging from his interview, frustrated that he just couldn't qualify for over 2 years and giving it one last go. Tear qualified, these three didn't. Sad stuff, but that's the way it goes. | ||
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PVJ
Hungary5214 Posts
 he was one of my faves when it came to handles ;_; I was so happy when he succeeded to code s like two seasons ago (?) | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On January 31 2013 19:08 PVJ wrote: No asd nooo he was one of my faves when it came to handles ;_; I was so happy when he succeeded to code s like two seasons ago (?) asd hasn't been in Code S since 2011. | ||
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mongmong
Korea (South)1389 Posts
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37015 Posts
and they they will be blessed in whatever they decide to pursue next!! Damn it... I used two they's.... Can OP please edit that to say "that they"? Choya posted it before I could proofread. Although, I probably should have proofread before posting.... Also, to people wondering why they retired: Those three felt like they wouldn't be able to do any better even if they transitioned to HotS. They also lost interest in the game altogether. In the end, they made a decision that what would be best for them. | ||
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MistSC2
Sweden583 Posts
So sad T.T Will SeeKeR become a player for FXO now instead? Cause that would be pretty sick :D! | ||
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tj341
United States147 Posts
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00Visor
4337 Posts
On January 31 2013 19:07 PixelNite wrote: I think so, FXOTear said in his interview he would have retired if he didn't pass those preliminaries Wow, Tear is a really good player (carries FXO in teamleagues alongside Gumiho, Leenock and Lucky). There must be something up with FXO. | ||
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dubRa
2165 Posts
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SpeaKEaSY
United States1070 Posts
Best of luck to all of them. | ||
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Laryleprakon
New Zealand9496 Posts
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FXOUnstable
Australia159 Posts
On January 31 2013 19:21 00Visor wrote: Wow, Tear is a really good player (carries FXO in teamleagues alongside Gumiho, Leenock and Lucky). There must be something up with FXO. Nothing is "up" They all came to this decision themselves, remember they all have spent 2 years practicing and doing so at a very stressful level and still not seen success after that long you start to wonder if you will ever do well on a global scale, how long would you continue with that before you thought about career change? | ||
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
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dabom88
United States3483 Posts
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Windows 7
United States236 Posts
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LeLfe
France3160 Posts
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Locke-
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Goibon
New Zealand8185 Posts
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Grettin
42381 Posts
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Sumahi
Guam5609 Posts
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SHOOG
United States1639 Posts
Especially sad to see asd go. I enjoyed watching him play quite a bit. GL to all of them. | ||
Olli
Austria24417 Posts
On January 31 2013 18:58 PulseKane wrote: You can't be.... Serious... YEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!! Lol, so evil Good luck to the guys, hope they find something soon | ||
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SlixSC
666 Posts
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Ace1123
Philippines1187 Posts
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blackbrrd
Norway477 Posts
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NotoriousBig
Germany301 Posts
I am curious what´s about FXO Kong, because he doesn´t play in teamleagues nor GSL and is still in the roster. | ||
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Cauldron
Finland125 Posts
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Darrkhan
Finland1236 Posts
On January 31 2013 19:07 PixelNite wrote: I think so, FXOTear said in his interview he would have retired if he didn't pass those preliminaries PHEW I would have been really sad if Tear retired I don't really know whale and sirius (only remember whale playing really weird in some FXO vs X team match, most likely was really nervous :DD) asd was quite cool guy sucks that he retired. Well good luck to all of them | ||
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00Visor
4337 Posts
On January 31 2013 19:38 FXOUnstable wrote: Nothing is "up" They all came to this decision themselves, remember they all have spent 2 years practicing and doing so at a very stressful level and still not seen success after that long you start to wonder if you will ever do well on a global scale, how long would you continue with that before you thought about career change? Well, thats good to hear at least. Understandable decision. Will FXO look for new talents or will we see more of Aqou, Kong and Supreme (see Liquipedia) in GSTL? | ||
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
Sad news | ||
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PassionPRO
Singapore35 Posts
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KaiserKieran
United States615 Posts
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DavoS
United States4605 Posts
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Destro
Netherlands1206 Posts
lol @ people saying bad state of the scene. people stop playing games all the god damn time. how many games do you play? how many do you not play anymore. stop being so god damn sensationalist. | ||
digmouse
China6328 Posts
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snailz
Croatia900 Posts
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Slomo
Germany7198 Posts
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Ry2D2
United States429 Posts
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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
On January 31 2013 21:21 digmouse wrote: Didn't asd just participate in Code A qualifier today? All three participated in the Code A qualifiers. Sirius even made it to the final in Group 5, but he lost 0-2 to Lure. | ||
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NuclearJudas
6546 Posts
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SSeoni
139 Posts
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37015 Posts
On January 31 2013 21:20 Destro wrote: i didnt know any of those players. lol @ people saying bad state of the scene. people stop playing games all the god damn time. how many games do you play? how many do you not play anymore. stop being so god damn sensationalist. You don't know who asdfOu is? Oo;; | ||
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fortheGG
United Kingdom1002 Posts
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defense
Brazil42 Posts
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
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6BiT
513 Posts
On January 31 2013 20:26 SHOOG wrote: Ah, very unfortunate. Always sad to see players retire, but I completely understand why. This is all that needs to be said really. Doubt any of the 3 players will read this, but I'd just like to thank them for their efforts. | ||
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Badfatpanda
United States9719 Posts
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FXOUnstable
Australia159 Posts
On January 31 2013 21:01 00Visor wrote: Well, thats good to hear at least. Understandable decision. Will FXO look for new talents or will we see more of Aqou, Kong and Supreme (see Liquipedia) in GSTL? Supreme is one of the coaches and "mom" of the team to phrase it best, Kong is an online practice partner as his parents wont let him move into the house, Aqou we picked up 3 months ago and is progressing well i'm told | ||
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yeaitooted
United States51 Posts
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ChoDing
United States740 Posts
if not, best of luck in their near future!!! User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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FineAndDandy
166 Posts
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On January 31 2013 22:02 FineAndDandy wrote: Probably going for LoL? Probably retiring from competitive gaming entirely, I have yet to hear a single success story of a player switching from sc2 to LoL. What happened to Puzzle, Min, Coca, Grape, Brave and the others? They have probably given up on LoL at this point. | ||
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masterbreti
Korea (South)2711 Posts
On January 31 2013 22:06 Dodgin wrote: Probably retiring from competitive gaming entirely, I have yet to hear a single success story of a player switching from sc2 to LoL. What happened to Puzzle, Min, Coca, Grape, Brave and the others? They have probably given up on LoL at this point. Actually fairly recently a bunch of them formed a team together with Maka(Prime). they are all fairly good at League actually although the Korean scene is a lot harder to get into then the sc2 scene. Since Qualifers are a lot less often and there is only a couple major leagues in Korean LoL. | ||
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Master of DalK
Canada1797 Posts
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EnumaAvalon
Philippines3613 Posts
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AnomalySC2
United States2073 Posts
On January 31 2013 22:02 FineAndDandy wrote: Probably going for LoL? Hopefully. | ||
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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
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Taefox
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19225 Posts
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jakethesnake
Canada4948 Posts
Still sad though! GL to all three in the future | ||
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Vertical
Indonesia4317 Posts
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MistSC2
Sweden583 Posts
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imEnex
Canada500 Posts
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Zerg.Zilla
Hungary5029 Posts
But i wouldn't worry to much FXO still has the big guns(Leenock,Gumiho,Choya). | ||
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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
On January 31 2013 23:22 prOxySC2 wrote: I cant help to wonder why you would leave progaming like isnt that the dream for so many people? Getting paid to playSC2. Especially if your on the best team in the world. If i was in FXO id never leave it. I don't know about FXO, but being on a top Korean (non-Kespa) team does not mean that you will get paid. Especially if you've never been in the GSL and don't manage to qualify for Code A.. | ||
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tj341
United States147 Posts
On January 31 2013 23:30 Conti wrote: I don't know about FXO, but being on a top Korean (non-Kespa) team does not mean that you will get paid. Especially if you've never been in the GSL and don't manage to qualify for Code A.. They probably received a small salary and just got tired of the game. 2 years straight of playing ~10-14 hours a day, would probably not feel like a game anymore to some people. was also wondering if they will pick up a new player. I'm pretty sure they had Acou on their roster like 2 days before they announced that they were recruiting. | ||
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SupLilSon
Malaysia4123 Posts
On January 31 2013 22:06 Dodgin wrote: Probably retiring from competitive gaming entirely, I have yet to hear a single success story of a player switching from sc2 to LoL. What happened to Puzzle, Min, Coca, Grape, Brave and the others? They have probably given up on LoL at this point. Why do you think that? There's tons of "progamers" that chugged along for 2 years without any notable results, it's not outside of reason to think they are doing the same in LoL. Just because they havent achieved results doesn't mean they arent good. | ||
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Daswollvieh
5553 Posts
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hoby2000
United States918 Posts
On January 31 2013 18:58 PulseKane wrote: You can't be.... Serious... YEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!! User was warned for this post Whale, it looks like they're very Sirius. This sucks for FXO. Asdfjakldfhjaklwe. | ||
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Havik_
United States5585 Posts
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KristofferAG
Norway25712 Posts
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docvoc
United States5491 Posts
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TheRealNanMan
United States1471 Posts
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Disengaged
United States6994 Posts
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SlayerOfYou
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
Life of a pro gamer pretty tough. FXOTear: First time qualifying for Code A GSL. How do you feel? I’ve practiced so hard but I’ve always had bad luck thus returning poor results. I was extremely disappointed and I was losing passion for the game. So I thought to myself; this is going to be my last attempt and I practiced like a madman. And after getting through the qualifiers…all that hard work I put in, all the sweat and tears I put in, it’s finally paying off. | ||
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Aserrin
Uruguay231 Posts
Even moreso now that they'd have to switch to HotS and the KeSPA crew would be more even by then. Too much work, little to no-pay off, high risks, etc. It's sorta sad to see the reality of progaming with loads of players who have been training and investing time like mad through years to not achieve anything that would make them fulfilled. Now I'm wondering what will Tear do if he gets knocked out in first round of Code A. | ||
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llIH
Norway2143 Posts
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AnomalySC2
United States2073 Posts
On February 01 2013 00:55 Aserrin wrote: Well it's understandable, they didn't have much success (or at all) for over two years, couldn't make it to Code A and called it a day. Even moreso now that they'd have to switch to HotS and the KeSPA crew would be more even by then. Too much work, little to no-pay off, high risks, etc. It's sorta sad to see the reality of progaming with loads of players who have been training and investing time like mad through years to not achieve anything that would make them fulfilled. Now I'm wondering what will Tear do if he gets knocked out in first round of Code A. It's very sad indeed. The reality of it all is that SC2 failed to truly take off. I still think esports can have a bright future but it will have to be a different game that leads the charge. LoL could possibly be that game seeing as it's by far the most popular atm, but I hope some other types of competitive games make it big as well. | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
Also, to the person above me... please don't start that again. SC2 is doing perfectly fine -_- | ||
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Eggi
478 Posts
eitherway gl to the koreans. I wouldve done the same. | ||
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SwizzY
United States1549 Posts
All of them probably exhausted from practicing SC2 and not achieving notable results, incoming Kespa pros who are eating everything up in sight, and the inclusion of an expansion months from now that will only serve to make the scene even more unpredictable. Sad turn of events, but I wish them much luck in the future. I only hope their transition back into the 'real' world is a kind one. | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On February 01 2013 01:25 SwizzY wrote: I only remember asd when he was on fOu and he abused HerO (my fav.) to knock him out of code S with a fake 1/1/1 (which was ridiculously good back in the day) and I branded him as a villain. Still hate to see him retire like this. The worst kind of player that you love to hate: the one that leaves so you can't hate them anymore :< | ||
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Al Bundy
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FlukyS
Ireland485 Posts
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NEEDZMOAR
Sweden1277 Posts
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AnomalySC2
United States2073 Posts
On February 01 2013 01:49 FlukyS wrote: None of them have gotten good results recently so its not a surprise. They probably weren't paid by FXO and they were wasting their time doing something that they weren't good at. I can't see it effecting their GSTL team all that much since it pretty much relies on Gumiho, Tear and Leenock to win anyway. lol? Whale was known for his creep spread and Asd for his micro. Both would come out in team leagues from time to time. The problem isn't their skill level, it's just that there isn't enough viewers or money floating around the sc2 scene to keep supporting so many pro gamers. As viewer numbers continue to decline, so too does the amount of professionals. | ||
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NEEDZMOAR
Sweden1277 Posts
On February 01 2013 02:04 AnomalySC2 wrote: lol? Whale was known for his creep spread and Asd for his micro. Both would come out in team leagues from time to time. The problem isn't their skill level, it's just that there isn't enough viewers or money floating around the sc2 scene to keep supporting so many pro gamers. As viewer numbers continue to decline, so too does the amount of professionals. Actually, the viewer numbers doesnt decline, there are more viewers than ever, its just that there are more events nowadays, which means that viewers and money are more spread out, but rest assure; the total amount of viewers is actually increasing. | ||
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AnomalySC2
United States2073 Posts
On February 01 2013 02:08 NEEDZMOAR wrote: Actually, the viewer numbers doesnt decline, there are more viewers than ever, its just that there are more events nowadays, which means that viewers and money are more spread out, but rest assure; the total amount of viewers is actually increasing. heh....as of right now on twitch.tv http://www.twitch.tv/directory LoL 115k viewers. Dota 2 18k viewers WoW 13k viewers SC2 7k viewers If by spread out you meant watching other games then yeah, I guess thats about right. | ||
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achan1058
1091 Posts
On February 01 2013 02:14 AnomalySC2 wrote: heh....as of right now on twitch.tv http://www.twitch.tv/directory LoL 115k viewers. Dota 2 18k viewers WoW 13k viewers SC2 7k viewers If by spread out you meant watching other games then yeah, I guess thats about right. This thread is about FXO players retiring, not about whether SC2 is dying or not. Please do not derail the thread. Honestly, it's sad, but understandable. GSTL never carries the same weight as GSL or the ProLeague, and I haven't really heard from those guys in a while now. | ||
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mrRoflpwn
United States2618 Posts
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AnomalySC2
United States2073 Posts
On February 01 2013 02:16 achan1058 wrote: This thread is about FXO players retiring, not about whether SC2 is dying or not. Please do not derail the thread. I was just responding to NEEDZMOAR incorrect post is all. | ||
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Foxwolf
Brazil157 Posts
Sad news. | ||
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asdfOu
United States2089 Posts
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Pucca
Taiwan1280 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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FlukyS
Ireland485 Posts
On February 01 2013 02:04 AnomalySC2 wrote: lol? Whale was known for his creep spread and Asd for his micro. Both would come out in team leagues from time to time. The problem isn't their skill level, it's just that there isn't enough viewers or money floating around the sc2 scene to keep supporting so many pro gamers. As viewer numbers continue to decline, so too does the amount of professionals. You can be known for anything thats not the issue the issue is actually winning. If you don't win or at least have the potential to win championships you aren't needed, if you are a sniper for a particular match up then you are useful too but you still have to have talent. All of the players that are retiring here don't have the talent to win championships and they aren't great snipers either so they retired which was a good thing for them rather than wasting their time. As for your viewers or money point is not even remotely true. There is more viewers in the history of SC2 right now its just the market is saturated. There is no decline its just people are picking and choosing different things to watch. For FXO they don't pay their players or at least not the lower players maybe they pay leenock I don't know its not a problem about money. They have sponsors and they are run by a company with a lot of money so there isn't an issue with them. And if you mean there isn't enough money for prizes, wow get your head out of your ass there is more money right now than there ever has been. The only thing is if you compare it to LoL (which is very unfair) we have less but go to sc2earnings and look at how much money players are earning and that isn't including salaries which a good proportion of the players that win tournaments are getting as well. So there is lots of money if you are actually good at the game. So my original point stands, they just weren't good enough and they retired because they were wasting their time. SC2 7k viewers There aren't any big streamers on right now. Jaedong gets more than 7k if he is streaming. Event streams get more than personal streams too so your point is really skewed because there is pretty much nothing going on to draw viewers in because we are spoiled for choice in really great content. | ||
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AnomalySC2
United States2073 Posts
On February 01 2013 02:44 FlukyS wrote: You can be known for anything thats not the issue the issue is actually winning. If you don't win or at least have the potential to win championships you aren't needed, if you are a sniper for a particular match up then you are useful too but you still have to have talent. All of the players that are retiring here don't have the talent to win championships and they aren't great snipers either so they retired which was a good thing for them rather than wasting their time. As for your viewers or money point is not even remotely true. There is more viewers in the history of SC2 right now its just the market is saturated. There is no decline its just people are picking and choosing different things to watch. For FXO they don't pay their players or at least not the lower players maybe they pay leenock I don't know its not a problem about money. They have sponsors and they are run by a company with a lot of money so there isn't an issue with them. And if you mean there isn't enough money for prizes, wow get your head out of your ass there is more money right now than there ever has been. The only thing is if you compare it to LoL (which is very unfair) we have less but go to sc2earnings and look at how much money players are earning and that isn't including salaries which a good proportion of the players that win tournaments are getting as well. So there is lots of money if you are actually good at the game. So my original point stands, they just weren't good enough and they retired because they were wasting their time. There aren't any big streamers on right now. Jaedong gets more than 7k if he is streaming. Event streams get more than personal streams too so your point is really skewed because there is pretty much nothing going on to draw viewers in because we are spoiled for choice in really great content. I'd rather not continue to derail the thread further (so this is my last post in here), but Idra alone used to get 15k plus viewers everytime he streamed. Now he gets 2k if he is lucky. Come on now, 7k is nowhere near enough to sustain the sc2 pro scene. This is the real reason so many teams are closing shop and many of the pros are retiring or switching to LoL. Anyways I still think you're comments on ASD and Whale are completely ridiculous. They were, and still are, good enough to stay competitive with the best of the best. Maybe not win a championship or anything but they were still strong enough to be considered a pro gamer. Not everyone can be a star player you know..... | ||
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Advantageous
China1350 Posts
On January 31 2013 18:58 Dodgin wrote: Real talk, they weren't going anywhere and tried hard to be successful for 2 years and couldn't make it, so they're moving on with their lives. Yeah It's sad if you're a fan of them but It's not a big blow to the sc2 scene at all. Good luck to the players with whatever they do next. Real talk, ya I agree. These 3 weren't the best on FXO and their presences were short-lived. However, I feel bad for FXOasd since he did show some talent in the beginning of his SC2 career, but could not follow up and make something more of it. GL to them in their future endeavors. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On February 01 2013 02:14 AnomalySC2 wrote: heh....as of right now on twitch.tv http://www.twitch.tv/directory LoL 115k viewers. Dota 2 18k viewers WoW 13k viewers SC2 7k viewers If by spread out you meant watching other games then yeah, I guess thats about right. Twitch counts HotS and WoL as seperate games, for one. And even then, who cares if LoL has more viewers at a specific time when you decided to click on the directory? The NFL always gets more viewers per game than MLB or NBA. Lets not even talk about golf and tennis. The whole, "SC2 is dying because the number next to LoL is larger" argument is so dumb it hurts my head. | ||
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Kontys
Finland659 Posts
Let's hope they decide to remain committed to SC2. | ||
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FXOUnstable
Australia159 Posts
On February 01 2013 03:20 Kontys wrote: Sounds like FXO is economizing a bit. Let's hope they decide to remain committed to SC2. er no, this was their choice, we are actively looking at players to replace their positions in the team house | ||
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JOJOsc2news
3000 Posts
On February 01 2013 02:44 Torte de Lini wrote: Sorry to hear FXO lose some great players ): I agree but I got to admit that these guys never really made an impression on me. Good luck to them in their future endeavours! | ||
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BlazeFury01
United States1460 Posts
On January 31 2013 19:07 PixelNite wrote: I think so, FXOTear said in his interview he would have retired if he didn't pass those preliminaries What if he loses first round though? | ||
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
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Mortal
2943 Posts
On January 31 2013 18:55 Ruscour wrote: Sad news. Whale was looking like a big time up-and-comer for a while. You can only be an "up-and-comer" for so long until you realize maybe you just aren't good enough to win anything noteworthy. | ||
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Daswollvieh
5553 Posts
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Wuster
1974 Posts
And I don't think GSTL is a big enough deal in Korea yet where you can consider that 'substantial' success I guess. | ||
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Inzan1ty
1163 Posts
Reasonable these FXO trainees (more or less) are now looking challenge elsewhere, with KeSpa players taking up a lot of space, there simply isnt much left for players that already didnt make their breakthrough before KeSpa switched, and now would find it even much harder.. | ||
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
I can't blame them, they tried their best and with all the Kespa players, it is hard for this caliber of player to make a break through. It sounds harsher than I mean it, but even if they stayed they probably would never qualify for a tournament or make their break through Keep fighting FXO, you developed a lot of talent and I'm sure there is more to come!!! | ||
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TeamBanished
United States301 Posts
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BadAim
Norway879 Posts
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MVega
763 Posts
On February 01 2013 04:04 morevox wrote: Right before HOTS came out? You would think they would give the new game a shot at least. Good luck to all 3 of them. HotS is different, but it's not different enough that it's going to make them on par with the best of the best, or push them through the qualifiers. If anything, depending on how Gom handles it, it could make qualifiers harder. So this is a perfectly fine time to call it quits. | ||
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EliteSK
Korea (South)251 Posts
I liked him a lot | ||
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GxbKoma
United States7 Posts
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Vul
United States685 Posts
Odd to see three players retire at the exact same time when the team is still together though. Kind of makes it seem like this was more of a forced retirement so that FXO can clean house so to speak, maybe FXO wants to take a chance on some new players. | ||
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
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JOJOsc2news
3000 Posts
On February 01 2013 05:13 Canucklehead wrote: Whale, at first glance this looks like a sirius situation, but it's understandable since they tried for 2 years, but this still makes me want to asdfljfjfojgl and flip tables. I see what you did there :D | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
On January 31 2013 18:58 PulseKane wrote: You can't be.... Serious... YEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!! User was warned for this post these warnings and stuff are getting a bit ridiculous... i wish these guys good luck with whatever they'll be doing now. i'm kinda sad especially about asd, who always looked pretty good when i've seen him play. and i guess i'm biased towards terran in general. | ||
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SaintFrancis
Canada46 Posts
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Rgn
United States11 Posts
good luck to all three of them with whatever they pursue next in there life's. | ||
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IMoperator
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AnomalySC2
United States2073 Posts
On February 01 2013 05:33 IMoperator wrote: It's always sad to see people go. I remember when asd beat boxer almost 2 years ago now and people were hating on him lol. Oh well, good luck guys. I dunno why lol. He has always had some of the best micro out of everyone. | ||
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anime beer
United States3 Posts
On February 01 2013 03:02 Plansix wrote: Twitch counts HotS and WoL as seperate games, for one. And even then, who cares if LoL has more viewers at a specific time when you decided to click on the directory? The NFL always gets more viewers per game than MLB or NBA. Lets not even talk about golf and tennis. The whole, "SC2 is dying because the number next to LoL is larger" argument is so dumb it hurts my head. Exactly this, and people have to remember that over the past year or so there's been a steady influx of LoL streamers coming over from Own3d. LoL has nearly always been more popular than SC2, but when both games were new almost every LoL streamer was on own3d and almost every SC2 streamer was on twitch. People are only freaking out now that there's a direct way to compare the two. Back on the main topic, a lot of people are asking why they retired as they could get a fresh start in HotS. To put things in perspective, there will also be a large talent pool coming into HotS with a fresh start, a talent pool that didn't get to play WoL from release and was always a little bit behind. The people retiring don't want to play the rat race of getting to the top of the pack again with everyone on a nearly level playing field. | ||
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KoMA_
Canada65 Posts
(((. | ||
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Ponera
Canada596 Posts
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IMoperator
4476 Posts
On February 01 2013 06:27 Ponera wrote: I really hope this isn't a foreshadowing of FXO being in trouble. The Sc2 scene keeps losing players and teams, it makes me sad. I really hope HotS revitalises things and that after kespa transition is fully integrated (if it integrates) that things can stabilize and grow. Expect to see more of the lower-level pros to leave tbh. With all the Kespa players coming about it's not really worth it to keep playing when you're not the top level on your esf team. Lower-tier pros are going to keep retiring or switching games because it's just not worth the amount of work. | ||
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MarkCJ
Canada239 Posts
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catplanetcatplanet
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Srontgorrth
United States204 Posts
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Eskiya23
Netherlands105 Posts
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RDaneelOlivaw
Vatican City State733 Posts
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t e a C h e r
Canada151 Posts
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revoN
Japan804 Posts
Some people have been pointing out that they quit because the scene is over-saturated with good players (even more so since the Kespa have returned to claim their birthright). I mean if you gamble your entire career on qualifying for just ONE tournament (GSL) then good luck and have fun. This is why the Proleague format is the best. You don't see players quit just because they fail to qualify for individual leagues since there's always the PL to fall back on (that plus a stable salary). If anyone is even to blame then it should be GOM since they had 2+ years to make SC2 progamer a viable career (and they kind of failed). Brace yourselves because we'll see a lot more players retiring in the near future as well (with majority of them being non-Kespa, that's for sure). | ||
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Bippzy
United States1466 Posts
I enjoyed really only asd, but good luck in life to all 3! | ||
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negativedge
4279 Posts
On January 31 2013 19:07 PixelNite wrote: I think so, FXOTear said in his interview he would have retired if he didn't pass those preliminaries really makes you want to cheer for Tear in Code A | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
On January 31 2013 18:58 PulseKane wrote: You can't be.... Serious... YEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!! User was warned for this post Hey why was this guy warned? This post was appropriately funny. | ||
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kochanfe
Micronesia1338 Posts
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sunglasseson
United States145 Posts
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lessQQmorePEWPEW
Jamaica921 Posts
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mango_destroyer
Canada3914 Posts
I liked watching asds games. I hope theBest is still motivated. | ||
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zERG_bONG
United States4 Posts
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DeadCell
Canada256 Posts
GL in whatever you three decide to pursue now. | ||
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mYiKane
Canada1772 Posts
On February 01 2013 11:12 Xiphos wrote: Hey why was this guy warned? This post was appropriately funny. haters gonna hate | ||
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Terranist
United States2496 Posts
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
 .We as fans know that, sponsors and teams know that, and the fact that people stop playing esports on a professional level should be another motivation for organizers, team managers etc. to work even harder to push e-sports to even higher levels! A german football player, playing in the "Dritte Bundesliga" which kinda would be code B in SC2 can still live from is salary without too hard problems. I'm so hoping we will get this status also into e-sports among the next ten or twenty years... | ||
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dynwar7
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imre
France9263 Posts
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fireforce7
United States334 Posts
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bobsire
Canada296 Posts
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plgElwood
Germany518 Posts
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Csong
Canada396 Posts
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Radel
United States115 Posts
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shin_toss
Philippines2589 Posts
Does all FXO SC2 players receive a monthly or any form of salary? or only the top players? | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On February 04 2013 09:54 shin_toss wrote: Big blow to the sc2 community T_T, btw: Does all FXO SC2 players receive a monthly or any form of salary? or only the top players? It's not a blow to the sc2 community at all. Sucks they retired, but they haven't had much results for a long time. Always sad to see pro's retire though :/. | ||
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las91
United States5080 Posts
On February 04 2013 09:54 shin_toss wrote: Big blow to the sc2 community T_T, btw: Does all FXO SC2 players receive a monthly or any form of salary? or only the top players? Losing 3 Korean players that haven't done anything since mid 2011 does nothing to the SC2 community. Good lord people. | ||
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LuckyMacro
United States1482 Posts
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