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Former TSL members Free Agency notice from eSF - Page 2

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warshop
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada490 Posts
January 08 2013 01:51 GMT
#21
Fionn~HyuN

You heard it first folks.
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
January 08 2013 01:51 GMT
#22
--- Nuked ---
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
January 08 2013 02:00 GMT
#23
Why isn't Shine listed ?
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
FXOBoSs
Profile Joined August 2011
337 Posts
January 08 2013 02:01 GMT
#24
I don't see this working out very well..Especially with foreign teams being potential bidders.
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emythrel
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom2599 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 02:04:06
January 08 2013 02:02 GMT
#25
On January 08 2013 10:41 tiMelEfT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 10:37 emythrel wrote:
On January 08 2013 10:27 Black Gun wrote:
roflmao, esf trying to pull off a wannabe kespa regiment.

but good luck to all of them, they deserve to be on a fine team. no matter the way they find their new team.


if they were trying to be like kespa, they wouldn't be posting this on TL. They would do it in house, in korea, without ever saying anything to the international community. Basically they are saying, if you want to sign an eSF free agent, we will act as an intermediary so there is no misunderstandings of terms etc

Dunno what you guys are reading because it seems clear as day this isnt about controlling players, but making sure that they don't get screwed or misunderstand something. Language barrier and all, it makes sense


The only reason they posted here is because they don't have the right to represent players, so they want to shout out to claim they have, to make people believe it. KeSPA always had the right to players, that's a given for many years, they only need to clarify when there are misunderstandings.


You severely lack in reading comprehension. At no point do they say they will have any part in actually negotiating, just that they will pass on terms, unfiltered (which is the important part), to the players. They are just trying to stop players gettin screwed over.

Imagine if an english speaking team goes directly to a player, who can barely understand them. So they ask a friend to translate and the friend gets it wrong. Basically eSF are going to act as the translator and central hub thru which to offer terms. No hint of controlling the players.
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babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 02:07:56
January 08 2013 02:03 GMT
#26
correct me if i'm wrong, but can't foreign teams just ignore this and contact the players directly anyways if they really want to? it isn't like esf has a lock on players' personal emails, and teams can just say that they didn't see the notice on tl if they get caught red-handed (e.g. by players forwarding emails), etc.

it definitely streamlines the procedure, though, and it does lower the chance of koreans being signed by skeevy teams (which has happened time and time again in the past). the more cynical may take it as esf trying to keep foreign teams from grabbing their players -- and let's be honest here, but esf's been on the losing end insofar as talent drain goes.

not that i have anything against it if the listed players gave their consent (as they seem to have done), and i'm all for more standard contract procedures. it really does seem like a clusterfuck sometimes, these team signings.

edit: honestly, knowing foreign teams, i don't think they will abide by this announcement. hmm.
Darkaros
Profile Joined February 2012
United States248 Posts
January 08 2013 02:05 GMT
#27
I wonder if the other TSL players listed on the LP page but not here (Cyrano, Venus, Mamuri, Shine) have found new teams already. The alternative is usually retirement, and while that's expected for Cyrano and probably the two unknown-ish players (they might just be practice partners for the little we know), it'd be a bit of a shame nonetheless.
LiLSighKoh
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States588 Posts
January 08 2013 02:08 GMT
#28
On January 08 2013 11:05 Darkaros wrote:
I wonder if the other TSL players listed on the LP page but not here (Cyrano, Venus, Mamuri, Shine) have found new teams already. The alternative is usually retirement, and while that's expected for Cyrano and probably the two unknown-ish players (they might just be practice partners for the little we know), it'd be a bit of a shame nonetheless.

Cyrano is like 18 though ? I wouldn't expect him to retire at 18
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E.L.V.I.S
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium458 Posts
January 08 2013 02:11 GMT
#29
Does that mean that the players can't choose their new teams ?
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Darkaros
Profile Joined February 2012
United States248 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 02:18:25
January 08 2013 02:17 GMT
#30
On January 08 2013 11:08 LiLSighKoh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 11:05 Darkaros wrote:
I wonder if the other TSL players listed on the LP page but not here (Cyrano, Venus, Mamuri, Shine) have found new teams already. The alternative is usually retirement, and while that's expected for Cyrano and probably the two unknown-ish players (they might just be practice partners for the little we know), it'd be a bit of a shame nonetheless.

Cyrano is like 18 though ? I wouldn't expect him to retire at 18

Huh, he is. Well that's weird then, since Hyun/Symbol are older than him and part of the free agency list (which mentions young players as a factor). I kind of assumed he was an older player or ex-BW pro.
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
January 08 2013 02:21 GMT
#31
If I had money...
can i get my estro logo back pls
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
January 08 2013 02:21 GMT
#32
On January 08 2013 11:11 E.L.V.I.S wrote:
Does that mean that the players can't choose their new teams ?


Presumably it means that (note this is entirely a fictitious example)

EG wants to sign Symbol.

Instead of
contacting symbol ---> signing him
they have to
contact esf ---> esf approves or at least informs symbol of the contract and its contents ---> signing him

This is to prevent fake and shitty organizations from picking up players who wouldn't know any better
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
January 08 2013 02:23 GMT
#33
I'll chip in $100 to sign HyuN for liquid
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PiQLiQ
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden702 Posts
January 08 2013 02:24 GMT
#34
On January 08 2013 10:38 Fionn wrote:
I want to buy Hyun.



Why is that?
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
January 08 2013 02:25 GMT
#35
On January 08 2013 11:21 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 11:11 E.L.V.I.S wrote:
Does that mean that the players can't choose their new teams ?


Presumably it means that (note this is entirely a fictitious example)

EG wants to sign Symbol.

Instead of
contacting symbol ---> signing him
they have to
contact esf ---> esf approves or at least informs symbol of the contract and its contents ---> signing him

This is to prevent fake and shitty organizations from picking up players who wouldn't know any better


And also to translate terms and conditions of their contracts. Don't expect them to read and comprehend complicated contract English. Someone has to make sure no one gets duped and everyone understands each other.
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Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
January 08 2013 02:26 GMT
#36
On January 08 2013 11:21 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 11:11 E.L.V.I.S wrote:
Does that mean that the players can't choose their new teams ?


Presumably it means that (note this is entirely a fictitious example)

EG wants to sign Symbol.

Instead of
contacting symbol ---> signing him
they have to
contact esf ---> esf approves or at least informs symbol of the contract and its contents ---> signing him

This is to prevent fake and shitty organizations from picking up players who wouldn't know any better


It also shows that eSF has authority with their own players, which is a natural move considering they are pretty much dwarfed by bigger teams in and outside of KR.

Hopefully there are also genuine intentions of taking care of their own and not holding their leash.
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Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 02:29:54
January 08 2013 02:28 GMT
#37
This is nice I guess but seems a little amateur (posting on TL instead of emailing all the big teams etc), also ESF helping negotiate KESPA teams interest would be lol

Good luck to the players finding new teams,
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6644 Posts
January 08 2013 02:29 GMT
#38
On January 08 2013 10:27 Black Gun wrote:
roflmao, esf trying to pull off a wannabe kespa regiment.

but good luck to all of them, they deserve to be on a fine team. no matter the way they find their new team.

Not at all! They are making sure the players don't get screwed over by shady as fuck foreign teams... a Kespa regiment wouldn't be posted on TL.... They would control it behind the scenes if thats what they were going for.

I'm glad they are doing this. Would be horrible to see these players go to a crappy team that would rip them off. Atleast now only legit teams really have a shot at them!
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mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
January 08 2013 02:29 GMT
#39
What about Shine?
Long live the Boss Toss!
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6644 Posts
January 08 2013 02:29 GMT
#40
On January 08 2013 11:23 lichter wrote:
I'll chip in $100 to sign HyuN for liquid

I'll donate to the recruit HyuN fund! <3
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
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