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[Interview] SPL EG-TL vs SouL Round 1 2012-2013 - Page 5

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BreaK
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada890 Posts
December 29 2012 18:55 GMT
#81
Oh my god that Thorzain picture. So handsome.
formerly ClouD.BreaK ~ gogo KTF! & Liquid!
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6378 Posts
December 29 2012 21:12 GMT
#82
On December 30 2012 00:36 StarStruck wrote:
Correction:

Show nested quote +
How do you feel about being the first foreigner to grab a victory in SC2 PL?

It's very annoying when they combine the two when they're nothing alike and you no longer need to follow the old protocol in BW to become a Pro Gamer. Times have changed and it's a brand new game. Stop tying all the results together KeSPA. You gave all the BW players practically the right to play in PL just because they had their BW Pro Gamer Licenses and were members of the teams. Nothing wrong with that, but you somehow seem to acknowledge that the stats they had in BW should be combined with that of their SC2 stats. Case in point, Bisu. You shouldn't mix is BW prowess with his abysmal SC2 results.

I find it hard to believe a harmless fact about the absence of foreigners in Proleague annoys you. It's just a cool fact. The fact that Thorzain was the first foreigner to win in the SC2 PL doesn't mean he wasn't also the first foreigner to win since Legionnaire - is he not a foreigner? did Draco secretly get a game while on Sparkyz that nobody remembers? - it just means we have two cool facts instead of one.

And it's not realistic to say that the "new PL" is somehow nothing like the "old PL." The format is the same. The teams are 87.5% the same. OGN's production is the same. KeSPA is the same.

You are correct that the issue of progamer licenses has been swept under the rug, as nobody on EGTL besides IdrA, Jaedong, and PuMa has ever held a KeSPA license. But those licenses haven't always worked the same way to begin with. Legionnaire never won a Courage match, nor did Elky, Giyom... for that matter, boxer, yellow, does that mean when the Courage match was introduced, people like you jumped up and said "Well, there's nothing wrong with letting Yellow play in the OSL, but for some reason you don't want to forget all his old wins? What kind of sense does that make?"

Neither is SC2 a brand new game. It is some 2.5 years old. And this isn't the first Proleague to use it. You may remember the 2011-2012 Proleague Season 2 included both Brood War and Starcraft 2. So now what are we to believe, that 11-12 Season 2 was nothing like the "old" Proleague and now that 12-13 is nothing like the "old" Proleague and nothing like 11-12 Season 2, or the much simpler explanation that you're trying to make a fuss about nothing?

Case in point, Bisu. You shouldn't mix is BW prowess with his abysmal SC2 results.

I don't think people actually do this. Bisu has won a lot of games for his teams in the Starcraft Proleague. That's just a statistic. The fact that he can now add to that statistic (by winning games for his team in the Starcraft Proleague despite that the game has been replaced because it's a continuation of the same league) doesn't mean people are pretending he's one of the top 3 protosses.
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HereBeDragons
Profile Joined May 2011
1429 Posts
December 29 2012 21:15 GMT
#83
HE'S SO SEXY!!!. This win goes down in history, with a spice of manner PF
Facultyadjutant
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Sweden1876 Posts
December 29 2012 21:29 GMT
#84
THORZAIN FIGHTING! ))
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ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
December 29 2012 21:35 GMT
#85
Thorzain is such a good ambassor for the foreign players. So happy he won. I'm sure answering some questions in Korean propelled him among Korean netizens =).
Insurrectionist
Profile Joined February 2011
Norway141 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-29 21:42:43
December 29 2012 21:42 GMT
#86
On December 30 2012 06:12 oBlade wrote:
...
Neither is SC2 a brand new game. It is some 2.5 years old. And this isn't the first Proleague to use it. You may remember the 2011-2012 Proleague Season 2 included both Brood War and Starcraft 2. So now what are we to believe, that 11-12 Season 2 was nothing like the "old" Proleague and now that 12-13 is nothing like the "old" Proleague and nothing like 11-12 Season 2, or the much simpler explanation that you're trying to make a fuss about nothing?

I agree with you on your main point, but I don't see how that's wrong. Proleague is significantly changed with SC2, and the 11-12 s2 proleague was an unholy abomination that is best forgotten - even if you don't agree with that, it was significantly different in many ways compared to both previous proleagues and the current one in things like player preparation, general level of gameplay, etc.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-29 23:49:30
December 29 2012 23:25 GMT
#87
The first answer in the original Korean wasn't talking about the hundreds or thousands of individual wins that he achieved but was referring to the hundreds and thousands of days since the last foreigner win. In other words it was more important to him that he contributed a win for his team than that hes the first foreigner in hundreds and thousands of days to get a win.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37101 Posts
December 29 2012 23:52 GMT
#88
On December 30 2012 08:25 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
The first answer in the original Korean wasn't talking about the hundreds or thousands of individual wins that he achieved but was referring to the hundreds and thousands of days since the last foreigner win. In other words it was more important to him that he contributed a win for his team than that hes the first foreigner in hundreds and thousands of days to get a win.

Omfg thank you. That one was driving me crazy for the longest time..
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ThreeActPlay
Profile Joined April 2011
United States249 Posts
December 30 2012 01:32 GMT
#89
thorzain looks incredibly photogenic in that picture. the handsome nerd!
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Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
December 30 2012 01:33 GMT
#90
Typical no personality foreigner.
Sheesh.
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5225 Posts
December 30 2012 01:39 GMT
#91
The EG-TL pro league team is reviving my interest in SC2, it was awesome to watch Thorzain play and win. I can't wait for Idra and Stephano to play.
MarkCJ
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada239 Posts
December 30 2012 01:39 GMT
#92
woooooo tzain fighting!
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tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
December 30 2012 01:43 GMT
#93
D'AWW
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BretZ
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1510 Posts
December 30 2012 01:54 GMT
#94
Thorzain is by far and away my favorite foreign terran player. Or favorite Terran player.
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
December 30 2012 02:00 GMT
#95
That snow looks extremely fake.

Tzain looks extremely handsome.

50% winrate, I think he can manage that.
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
December 30 2012 02:19 GMT
#96
Who's this guy and what did he done to ThorZaIN ? I refuse to believe that's the Spoon Terran on this photo. Actually, these new glasses and haircut change EVERYTHING, I thought he went full SuperNoVa.

More seriously, congrats for your victory ThorZaIN, you deserves to not stay at 0-X.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46263 Posts
December 30 2012 02:24 GMT
#97
On December 29 2012 16:34 EG.Thorzain wrote:
There was A LOT of mistranslation in this interview. Almost every answer was a bit wrong from what I originally meant. For example I didn't say that I take full credit for the win today, rather the opposite that I'm proud of our team, etc.

So take this interview with a grain of salt.


Yeah I was curious about that haha.

Congratulations though! You totally earned all of the limelight you're getting!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Daeracon
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden201 Posts
December 30 2012 08:54 GMT
#98
Was there a televised interview with him? Where is that VOD in that case, any help would be appreciated.
You can't use your breaks to get over a hill
ramask2
Profile Joined June 2011
Thailand1024 Posts
December 30 2012 09:07 GMT
#99
On December 30 2012 17:54 Daeracon wrote:
Was there a televised interview with him? Where is that VOD in that case, any help would be appreciated.


I found it here
ktimekiller
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States690 Posts
December 30 2012 09:08 GMT
#100
Is it just me or does thorzain look extra cute and handsome in that picture
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