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TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-27 13:25:42
December 27 2012 13:19 GMT
#1
So in response to the volatility debate I changed the parameters a bit and recomputed all ratings from the start. The current lists also include a bunch of teamleague games that were missing originally (huge thanks to Conti for discovering this hole and filling it). In particular, this should help with some of the Kespa player ratings, since we now have data from the hybrid proleague.

As always, if you're interested in lending a hand, drop me a note. Suggestions are always welcome. I have a list of features I want to implement, but it's holidays and I'm busy fattening up.

Conti, Grovbolle, KristofferAG and PhoenixVoid deserve thanks for helping out, and TLO for his shoutout too.

Current list: http://aligulac.com/periods/74/
History (has changed a bit): http://aligulac.com/periods/

I realize that the records page now looks dumb. Will get to that eventually.

The leading race is still Zerg, and the lagging race is still (as almost always) Protoss.

Current top 10:
  1. Life 2855
  2. PartinG 2633
  3. Sniper 2572
  4. Bomber 2492
  5. HyuN 2460
  6. BaBy 2442
  7. DongRaeGu 2439
  8. HerO 2415
  9. viOLet 2391
  10. EffOrt 2372
Top 10 foreigners (dat Zerg):
  1. VortiX 2270
  2. Snute 2255
  3. Scarlett 2247
  4. Sen 2141
  5. Stephano 2111
  6. LucifroN 2064
  7. CombatEX 2050 (yeah, yeah, I know)
  8. TLO 1993
  9. XlorD 1984
  10. MacSed 1943
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
krutopatkin
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany2612 Posts
December 27 2012 13:21 GMT
#2
incredibly amazing work and effort, thanks a lot!
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
December 27 2012 13:25 GMT
#3
I think this calls for a CombatEX vs Idra showmatch.
HOLY CHECK!
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10675 Posts
December 27 2012 13:29 GMT
#4
I think you should just remove CombatEX from the rankings all together since he is not even allowed on this website , it is pretty pointless to even have him in the rankings IMO, just move on to the next person please, wouldn't be hard to replace him with someone that actually matters.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-27 13:31:51
December 27 2012 13:30 GMT
#5
On December 27 2012 22:29 GGzerG wrote:
I think you should just remove CombatEX from the rankings all together since he is not even allowed on this website , it is pretty pointless to even have him in the rankings IMO, just move on to the next person please, wouldn't be hard to replace him with someone that actually matters.

So despite the fact he legitimately made it to an offline event and did reasonably well, your personal dislike of him means he should be excluded?

He's there for a reason, the reason is he performed in SC2 at a high level. How would replacing him with someone less deserving be reasonable?
It's a skill based ranking system, not a "who do we like who's also doing well" ranking system. If you want to make a ladder which excludes random people, make your own, otherwise what's the point in making an overall ranking if you are just going to pick and choose who is included.
HOLY CHECK!
edlover420
Profile Joined December 2012
349 Posts
December 27 2012 13:32 GMT
#6
May i inquire on what grounds is combatex ranked 7th, when in fact he can't win versus anyone decent, he never did won versus anyone decent and he has no tournament results whatsoever?

Also where is Taeja QQ
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
December 27 2012 13:34 GMT
#7
On December 27 2012 22:29 GGzerG wrote:
I think you should just remove CombatEX from the rankings all together since he is not even allowed on this website , it is pretty pointless to even have him in the rankings IMO, just move on to the next person please, wouldn't be hard to replace him with someone that actually matters.


Out of all people on this forum.... YOU are the one who calls for someone to be banished... I agree that CombatEX wasn't a good person but I can't help but rofl at the irony here. ^^

Great work as always, BB. Interesting to see XlorD so high up in the foreigner ranking. Guy's definitely got the talent to make it happen, we'll have to see how much consistency there is to him.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
theBALLS
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Singapore2935 Posts
December 27 2012 13:35 GMT
#8
6 of the top 10 koreans are zerg.

7 of the top 10 foreigners are zerg.

Leading by far

Hopefully this would be rectified in HotS!
If you lose the stick, you'll always have theBALLS.
costinii
Profile Joined December 2012
Portugal59 Posts
December 27 2012 13:37 GMT
#9
On December 27 2012 22:30 Lonyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2012 22:29 GGzerG wrote:
I think you should just remove CombatEX from the rankings all together since he is not even allowed on this website , it is pretty pointless to even have him in the rankings IMO, just move on to the next person please, wouldn't be hard to replace him with someone that actually matters.

So despite the fact he legitimately made it to an offline event and did reasonably well, your personal dislike of him means he should be excluded?

He's there for a reason, the reason is he performed in SC2 at a high level. How would replacing him with someone less deserving be reasonable?
It's a skill based ranking system, not a "who do we like who's also doing well" ranking system. If you want to make a ladder which excludes random people, make your own, otherwise what's the point in making an overall ranking if you are just going to pick and choose who is included.


I agree, if CombadEX had a good run and was legit he should be recognized.

I don't see any problem with this. People envolve, so should the Team Liquid as a society, don't act wrong based on some poor behaviours of some individuals. Yes, he was indeed very incorrect and had a tremendous lack of respect for people, but all people get better and envolve... but that is another discussion.

Merry X-mas to you all
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
December 27 2012 13:37 GMT
#10
just because someone is not a welcome person on the site does not take away from his accomplishments, look at it from a objective point of view
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
December 27 2012 13:37 GMT
#11
On December 27 2012 22:29 GGzerG wrote:
I think you should just remove CombatEX from the rankings all together since he is not even allowed on this website , it is pretty pointless to even have him in the rankings IMO, just move on to the next person please, wouldn't be hard to replace him with someone that actually matters.

He played in a tournament and got his ranking from there, so he should be on the list, even if the ranking might not be very accurate on his part.

I don't think the list accurately shows who the top players are, but I will agree that it is like a snap-shot of current shape for the most part, although I still think some rankings are "wrong", if you can say so.
Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
December 27 2012 13:38 GMT
#12
On December 27 2012 22:35 theBALLS wrote:
6 of the top 10 koreans are zerg.

7 of the top 10 foreigners are zerg.

Leading by far

Hopefully this would be rectified in HotS!


happens when you don´t patch your games.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
December 27 2012 13:38 GMT
#13
On December 27 2012 22:32 edlover420 wrote:
May i inquire on what grounds is combatex ranked 7th, when in fact he can't win versus anyone decent, he never did won versus anyone decent and he has no tournament results whatsoever?

Also where is Taeja QQ


I agree that he's not that good a player but his sample size, although limited, includes wins over d.KiLLeR, rox.fraer, M.Adelscott and a map win against PartinG. So he has beaten some progamers that you and me both would classify as "definitely better", the issue is that there's so few games of him at all, and this is not going to change since he has retired. But his winrate in TLPD is 71.43%, or 10/14. That's a fact :/
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
December 27 2012 13:39 GMT
#14
Pretty sad that only PartinG and HerO manage to get into the top 10 of current protoss players.
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
December 27 2012 13:39 GMT
#15
20 players, 3 terran, 4 protoss.....13 zerg...

Nice ranking though!
Unbiased biased terran abuser Jeffrey. Sorry for the rage, friend!
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10131 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-27 13:40:39
December 27 2012 13:39 GMT
#16
Startale too stronk! :D

Lol combatex.

Thanks theBB.
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
December 27 2012 13:40 GMT
#17
Wait didn't both Adelscott and Lowely go farther than Combatex at WCG? If WCG is the basis of his ranking how can you put him above both of them? This makes no sense at all rofl.
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
December 27 2012 13:43 GMT
#18
Also Grubby's IEM win counts less than combatex's wcg group stage?
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-27 13:46:31
December 27 2012 13:43 GMT
#19
On December 27 2012 22:40 goswser wrote:
Wait didn't both Adelscott and Lowely go farther than Combatex at WCG? If WCG is the basis of his ranking how can you put him above both of them? This makes no sense at all rofl.

Because there was already information about Adelscott and Lowely prior to WCG. CombatEX was a blank. His rating is 100% based on his WCG run, whereas the ratings of Adelscott and Lowely are also based on hundreds of other games they have played.

I wouldn't worry about him. In a month and a half he will drop out of the list on account of no games played.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
VyingsP
Profile Joined December 2011
France174 Posts
December 27 2012 13:47 GMT
#20
On December 27 2012 22:40 goswser wrote:
Wait didn't both Adelscott and Lowely go farther than Combatex at WCG? If WCG is the basis of his ranking how can you put him above both of them? This makes no sense at all rofl.


I believe that taking a map from parting (which only combatex and macsed managed to do) is worth more elo than a high finish rank.

Also, gl for HyperX tournament, whenever it might be played
Corrections of my bad english are much welcome
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