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-y0shi-
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany994 Posts
December 06 2012 12:25 GMT
#121
On December 06 2012 21:20 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 21:19 -y0shi- wrote:
I dont get this, anyone willing to explain? Which Leagues did exist in korea and which belonged to kespa? Im confused


Proleague belongs to Kespa, OSL and MSL belonged to the broadcast companies OnGameNet and MBCGame.


And why is IGN even involved if proleague belongs to kespa?
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 06 2012 12:25 GMT
#122
On December 06 2012 21:23 opterown wrote:
well this is kinda crappy lol


How will we make the LR threads now!? We don't even know where this is being streamed.
Parcelleus
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1662 Posts
December 06 2012 12:25 GMT
#123
Perfect job for Moletrap !!!
*burp*
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50864 Posts
December 06 2012 12:26 GMT
#124
I'm pretty sure looking at esportstv youtube page there will be a korean stream on them but I hope its not only for koreans because that would really suck.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
PeggyHill
Profile Joined February 2011
1494 Posts
December 06 2012 12:26 GMT
#125
Huge chance for someone to step in and commentate on their stream (i.e what Sayle did for BW).

Shouldn't actually be an issue for people who are fine with this work around.

Obviously would prefer a proper cast, esp with DOA.
CrazyBirdman
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany3509 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 12:35:44
December 06 2012 12:26 GMT
#126
On December 06 2012 21:23 Clbull wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 21:17 Dodgin wrote:


This tweet is about 15 hours old, I'm thinking maybe Kespa decided to let their partner MLG do the foreign broadcast for Proleague since they are a huge name in the foreign scene as opposed to OGN? With MLG viewership numbers would be much bigger since everyone already knows who MLG is, they could run the broadcast from their studio and have Axslav and Axeltoss cast it. *conspiracy hat*

If MLG does this, it better not be under a paywall like the MvP Invitational was.

If they do this. Dick move, Sundance...

If they do this TeamLiquid and EG managers will personally murder them I guess.... I cannot imagine them wanting to limit the sponsor exposure in they biggest project yet.

And holy shit, the week are to many annoucements to handle... EG-TL, EG.Jaedong, Proleague drama, HomestoryCup VI annoucements. To add to that, NASL4 finals this weekend and GSTL finals.....
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50864 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 12:27:24
December 06 2012 12:27 GMT
#127
On December 06 2012 21:25 -y0shi- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 21:20 Dodgin wrote:
On December 06 2012 21:19 -y0shi- wrote:
I dont get this, anyone willing to explain? Which Leagues did exist in korea and which belonged to kespa? Im confused


Proleague belongs to Kespa, OSL and MSL belonged to the broadcast companies OnGameNet and MBCGame.


And why is IGN even involved if proleague belongs to kespa?


IGN is not involved the IGN proleague and Proleague are 2 different things.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 06 2012 12:27 GMT
#128
On December 06 2012 21:25 -y0shi- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 21:20 Dodgin wrote:
On December 06 2012 21:19 -y0shi- wrote:
I dont get this, anyone willing to explain? Which Leagues did exist in korea and which belonged to kespa? Im confused


Proleague belongs to Kespa, OSL and MSL belonged to the broadcast companies OnGameNet and MBCGame.


And why is IGN even involved if proleague belongs to kespa?


OGN broadcasts Proleague on their channel, for Kespa, but Proleague is owned by Kespa.

When MBCGame was still alive they also broadcasted Proleague, they would switch between venues for each match and both TV channels would broadcast it either live from their studio or over top of the other studio with their own casters.

If I understand this correctly, the only thing not happening here is English coverage of Proleague for OGN, OGN will still broadcast Proleague with their Korean casters.
Chloroplaste
Profile Joined February 2011
France281 Posts
December 06 2012 12:27 GMT
#129
I would be quite happy if Moletrap doesn't cast this, and we'll have english other casters.
OSL cast was really bad except the one with Grubby.
rasnj
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1959 Posts
December 06 2012 12:27 GMT
#130
If KeSPA will let MLG do their English broadcast I won't really mind as a viewer. Axslav is a great caster and mlg has good production. I can't imagine it will be put behind a paywall, but obviously there will be a premium option for >360p (or >480p) quality.

However it seems like a bit of a dick move towards OGN from the outside. Maybe OGN were unreasonable or dickish behind the scenes, but from the outside it seems that KeSPA is the evil villain and honestly it doesn't need more of that sort of press.
heaveshade
Profile Joined March 2011
China330 Posts
December 06 2012 12:28 GMT
#131
just speechless
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42393 Posts
December 06 2012 12:28 GMT
#132
So this was about the English stream on OGN. Got it. Well, sucks of course. But i would probably watch Korean stream anyway.

I hope MLG does this right, if they are doing it.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50864 Posts
December 06 2012 12:28 GMT
#133
On December 06 2012 21:26 PeggyHill wrote:
Huge chance for someone to step in and commentate on their stream (i.e what Sayle did for BW).

Shouldn't actually be an issue for people who are fine with this work around.

Obviously would prefer a proper cast, esp with DOA.


chance for Ooooophidian to step up.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Talic_Zealot
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
688 Posts
December 06 2012 12:28 GMT
#134
Most of all, I will miss the best produced event in esports.. OGN knows how the fuck it is done.
There are three types of people in the universe: those who can count, and those who cant.
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
December 06 2012 12:29 GMT
#135
Sad news, i'd be pretty happy if MLG did cast if with there commentators as long as its still a free stream with paid vods/hd etc.

Interesting to see if EG-TL knew this was happening.
-y0shi-
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany994 Posts
December 06 2012 12:30 GMT
#136
On December 06 2012 21:27 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 21:25 -y0shi- wrote:
On December 06 2012 21:20 Dodgin wrote:
On December 06 2012 21:19 -y0shi- wrote:
I dont get this, anyone willing to explain? Which Leagues did exist in korea and which belonged to kespa? Im confused


Proleague belongs to Kespa, OSL and MSL belonged to the broadcast companies OnGameNet and MBCGame.


And why is IGN even involved if proleague belongs to kespa?


OGN broadcasts Proleague on their channel, for Kespa, but Proleague is owned by Kespa.

When MBCGame was still alive they also broadcasted Proleague, they would switch between venues for each match and both TV channels would broadcast it either live from their studio or over top of the other studio with their own casters.

If I understand this correctly, the only thing not happening here is English coverage of Proleague for OGN, OGN will still broadcast Proleague with their Korean casters.


So Kespa decided theyd run their own stream simutaniously to OGNs aand "steal" their viewers? Just trying to understand this
stjartrov
Profile Joined August 2012
Sweden81 Posts
December 06 2012 12:30 GMT
#137
And I just purchased OGN subscription... Updates this thread and this.. ^^ Not that its a lot of money, hopefully there's an OSL upcoming soon .

Any info on where we can see the SPL now then?
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 12:33:12
December 06 2012 12:31 GMT
#138
On December 06 2012 21:27 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 21:25 -y0shi- wrote:
On December 06 2012 21:20 Dodgin wrote:
On December 06 2012 21:19 -y0shi- wrote:
I dont get this, anyone willing to explain? Which Leagues did exist in korea and which belonged to kespa? Im confused


Proleague belongs to Kespa, OSL and MSL belonged to the broadcast companies OnGameNet and MBCGame.


And why is IGN even involved if proleague belongs to kespa?


OGN broadcasts Proleague on their channel, for Kespa, but Proleague is owned by Kespa.

When MBCGame was still alive they also broadcasted Proleague, they would switch between venues for each match and both TV channels would broadcast it either live from their studio or over top of the other studio with their own casters.

If I understand this correctly, the only thing not happening here is English coverage of Proleague for OGN, OGN will still broadcast Proleague with their Korean casters.

That's the question, i read it as Proleague isn't being shown at OGN at all.

edit: I read again, he just spoke about the English coverage. So we don't know about the Korean.
Elwar
Profile Joined August 2010
953 Posts
December 06 2012 12:32 GMT
#139
OGN had a good pricing setup ($6/month), if there is no english broadcast with a similar or better pricing structure from MLG, I'm just not going to watch at all.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 06 2012 12:32 GMT
#140
On December 06 2012 21:30 -y0shi- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 21:27 Dodgin wrote:
On December 06 2012 21:25 -y0shi- wrote:
On December 06 2012 21:20 Dodgin wrote:
On December 06 2012 21:19 -y0shi- wrote:
I dont get this, anyone willing to explain? Which Leagues did exist in korea and which belonged to kespa? Im confused


Proleague belongs to Kespa, OSL and MSL belonged to the broadcast companies OnGameNet and MBCGame.


And why is IGN even involved if proleague belongs to kespa?


OGN broadcasts Proleague on their channel, for Kespa, but Proleague is owned by Kespa.

When MBCGame was still alive they also broadcasted Proleague, they would switch between venues for each match and both TV channels would broadcast it either live from their studio or over top of the other studio with their own casters.

If I understand this correctly, the only thing not happening here is English coverage of Proleague for OGN, OGN will still broadcast Proleague with their Korean casters.


So Kespa decided theyd run their own stream simutaniously to OGNs aand "steal" their viewers? Just trying to understand this


" Steal " the foreigner viewers, I assume, yes.

What they are probably thinking is that MLG would do a better job than OGN in providing English coverage, and it would be better for Kespa if MLG ran the English stream.

The production for the OSL was pretty bad, lots of issues.
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