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TLO Featured on Daily Planet - Page 6

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CCow
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany335 Posts
December 04 2012 23:06 GMT
#101
Really nice,
TLO not only owning SC2 but owning science! ´=D
Project Epsilon
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada5 Posts
December 04 2012 23:10 GMT
#102
When my dad told me about SC on Daily Planet, I saw a glimpse of TLO and knew it was legit xD
Terran micro is silly. - Greg Fields
ElstonGunn
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada4 Posts
December 04 2012 23:20 GMT
#103
I pitched this to Daily Planet when I was there as an intern in May. I worked hard with another researcher to set everything up, but left before I knew if it went through. I'm so happy to see it out there. Thanks Dario and everyone at TL.

A note, daily planet is region blocked to Europe and parts of Asia. Kennigit, if you try to contact the producer who worked with you or perhaps I could try, we might be able to get a permanent link made that isn't blocked.
kraut
Profile Joined April 2010
374 Posts
December 04 2012 23:22 GMT
#104
On December 05 2012 07:29 Mariosatr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 06:54 MWY wrote:
On December 05 2012 05:25 Mariosatr wrote:
On December 05 2012 04:41 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
On December 05 2012 04:34 Willba wrote:
On December 05 2012 04:26 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
On December 05 2012 03:29 Kilby wrote:
On December 05 2012 03:09 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
I was expecting people on the tl forum to be able to use a proxy. I just use my standard program for it and im fine

was kinda funny, tlo likes his role as a superhero^^ although hes not actually one of the top players in europe nor in Germany skillwise.
Fanbase and Community wise hes one of the top foreigners,


Not one of the top players in Germany? I would disagree with that. Please name five German players who are better than TLO.


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_StarCraft_II_World_Championship_Series/Europe/Nationals/Germany

In WCS Germany he placed 9-12th, losing to hasu obs and Jaxx.
Players who placed better were Socke, Hasuobs, Darkforce, Krass, Heromarine, DBS, Jaxx and Kara.
DBS, Jaxx and Kara are inactive at the moment.
so there are 5 people left: Socke, Hasuobs, Darkforce, Krass and Heromarine being significantly better than TLO and still active.
I would count Hanfy better too since he won the last german EPS against players like Hasu, Socke and Monchi. That would be 6 players being better.
Then there are people roughly at the same level like Delphi and Tarrantius who placed 9-12th too at WCS and Goody which i wouldnt consider definetely inferior to TLO.

But well, now that TLO lives in Berlin, Germany he could compete in the next season of the German EPS and show where hes at in the German scene skillwise.


These results are 6 months old and TLO has improved a lot during this time. At this current point in time he is definitely one of the best German players.


Hes not competing much against German players. Thats true.
But what indicates that hes better than socke, hasuobs, darkforce, krass, heromarine or hanfy?
He gets invited to a lot of tournaments and he has a big fanbase but thats no reason why I would consider him better. If he wants to be one of the top players in Germany he has to prove it yet. You need to give a reason why he would be better than those people i named.
Its unfortunately that Darkforce didnt play WCG, i think he could have placed good. Hasuobs did do well at IEM singapore. TLO gets a lot of exposure everywhere, hes much more present than other players. but thats no indication of skill.


TLO went 4-1 in his group at DH Winter, being the only player with HerO to take games off him in the entire tournament, let alone beat him. Now that may not be amazing, but he also beat DIMAGA, Bischu and TargA. That result alone places him above a lot of those players.

Also, no offence but Heromarine and Krass are bettter? That's like saying KilleR and Suppy are better than Stephano because they placed higher in BWC. Heromarine and Krass don't have much going for them but a few German tournaments and WCS Germany; TLO competes mainly in international tournaments as opposed to German.


Actually, they are becoming really really good now. I remember Hasu losing to Krass several times lately.


I'm sure they could be improving, but still, the point was that TLO is a pretty high-tier foreigner. WCS Germany isn't the only viewpoint, and while DH Winter isn't too, you have to admit he's been doing a lot better recently; while KraSs may be getting better, I doubt he'll be able to compete on an international level like TLO does until atleast 2013.


oh hai

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Multiplay_UK_i47
Project Epsilon
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada5 Posts
December 04 2012 23:23 GMT
#105
Now to get data from KeSPA players
Terran micro is silly. - Greg Fields
Predguin
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada188 Posts
December 04 2012 23:28 GMT
#106
Hahaha, a prof from SFU! I would've been in his class next semester if it wasn't full baaw.

Great feature. I'm glad it was so in-depth and didn't make it seem kind of silly (like XellOs' documentary in '05 for NatGeo.. some parts were fine but the 'GAZILLION FIGHTER JETS' killed me... but then again that was a full-length documentary seven years ago and whatnot).
Elitios
Profile Joined February 2012
France164 Posts
December 04 2012 23:29 GMT
#107
Yeah! That's great exposure, and TLO looks as good as always! I hope it brings more people to sc2. On a side note, I always wondered when cognitive scientist were going to take a peek in the progamer fields, glad they finally began to do so!
tsuxiit
Profile Joined July 2010
1305 Posts
December 04 2012 23:31 GMT
#108
Nothing totally cringeworthy. A new milestone for eSports on TV.
ElstonGunn
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada4 Posts
December 04 2012 23:41 GMT
#109
I wanted to make sure that it was treated with respect when I pitched it. Also for anyone interested here are some stills from the shoot Alan put up on his facebook page

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.566809486679310.149289.112432105450386&type=1
Maxd11
Profile Joined July 2011
United States680 Posts
December 04 2012 23:42 GMT
#110
Sweet! Go TLO! Go ESPORTS!
I looked in the mirror and saw biupilm69t
Striker.superfreunde
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany1120 Posts
December 04 2012 23:48 GMT
#111
Nice study. Now i'm curious about the results... :/
'Your ak is pretty... uhm... dank!'
Scholera
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States166 Posts
December 05 2012 00:11 GMT
#112
On December 05 2012 06:04 KingdoM123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 05:48 Scholera wrote:
I really want to see it. Can a NA citizen plz record with say, hypercam 2, so I can view it?

P.S: It says im from US but I'm UK



http://174.136.50.254/~ipxnowin/r.php?nin_u=Oi8vd2F0Y2guZGlzY292ZXJ5Y2hhbm5lbC5jYQ==&nin_b=0&nin_f=norefer#clip819190

This one works Direct link to their stream of it, just some ads first.


Thanks a lot, I was pissing myself laughing at the whole "broke their script" and "we discovered there's players worse than the worst people we have" parts.
theLiminator
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada57 Posts
December 05 2012 00:24 GMT
#113
Oh cool, this was done by one of the local universities around my region. I think the link to the study is:
http://skillcraft.ca/
I can dance all day.
MrCash
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1504 Posts
December 05 2012 01:05 GMT
#114
It really seemed like a very positive and pleasant news piece.
It certainly wasn't focused on promoting SC2, but it definitely presented it in a positive light.
Netsky
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1155 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-05 01:34:37
December 05 2012 01:25 GMT
#115
EDIT: My bad, just scrolled through and found this link that worked for me

http://174.136.50.254/~ipxnowin/r.php?nin_u=Oi8vd2F0Y2guZGlzY292ZXJ5Y2hhbm5lbC5jYQ==&nin_b=0&nin_f=norefer#clip819190
Khanz
Profile Joined April 2010
France214 Posts
December 05 2012 01:58 GMT
#116
nice, perfect exposure
Don't worry, zombies eat brains. You're safe
thurst0n
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States611 Posts
December 05 2012 02:14 GMT
#117
Loved it, what did he mean exactly by things are important at low levels that aren't at higher levels? I agree that you shouldn't focus/practice what the pros practice and focus on because there are far more important things for low level players.. but everything a low level player SHOULD be trying to develop is something a pro should be keeping finely tuned. (pylons/probes etc)
P.S. I'm nub. If you'd like you can follow me @xthurst but its not worth it ill be honest
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12418 Posts
December 05 2012 02:24 GMT
#118
On December 05 2012 05:25 Mariosatr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 04:41 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
On December 05 2012 04:34 Willba wrote:
On December 05 2012 04:26 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
On December 05 2012 03:29 Kilby wrote:
On December 05 2012 03:09 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
I was expecting people on the tl forum to be able to use a proxy. I just use my standard program for it and im fine

was kinda funny, tlo likes his role as a superhero^^ although hes not actually one of the top players in europe nor in Germany skillwise.
Fanbase and Community wise hes one of the top foreigners,


Not one of the top players in Germany? I would disagree with that. Please name five German players who are better than TLO.


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_StarCraft_II_World_Championship_Series/Europe/Nationals/Germany

In WCS Germany he placed 9-12th, losing to hasu obs and Jaxx.
Players who placed better were Socke, Hasuobs, Darkforce, Krass, Heromarine, DBS, Jaxx and Kara.
DBS, Jaxx and Kara are inactive at the moment.
so there are 5 people left: Socke, Hasuobs, Darkforce, Krass and Heromarine being significantly better than TLO and still active.
I would count Hanfy better too since he won the last german EPS against players like Hasu, Socke and Monchi. That would be 6 players being better.
Then there are people roughly at the same level like Delphi and Tarrantius who placed 9-12th too at WCS and Goody which i wouldnt consider definetely inferior to TLO.

But well, now that TLO lives in Berlin, Germany he could compete in the next season of the German EPS and show where hes at in the German scene skillwise.


These results are 6 months old and TLO has improved a lot during this time. At this current point in time he is definitely one of the best German players.


Hes not competing much against German players. Thats true.
But what indicates that hes better than socke, hasuobs, darkforce, krass, heromarine or hanfy?
He gets invited to a lot of tournaments and he has a big fanbase but thats no reason why I would consider him better. If he wants to be one of the top players in Germany he has to prove it yet. You need to give a reason why he would be better than those people i named.
Its unfortunately that Darkforce didnt play WCG, i think he could have placed good. Hasuobs did do well at IEM singapore. TLO gets a lot of exposure everywhere, hes much more present than other players. but thats no indication of skill.


TLO went 4-1 in his group at DH Winter, being the only player with HerO to take games off him in the entire tournament, let alone beat him. Now that may not be amazing, but he also beat DIMAGA, Bischu and TargA. That result alone places him above a lot of those players.

Also, no offence but Heromarine and Krass are bettter? That's like saying KilleR and Suppy are better than Stephano because they placed higher in BWC. Heromarine and Krass don't have much going for them but a few German tournaments and WCS Germany; TLO competes mainly in international tournaments as opposed to German.

after watching his code A qualification games, I just can't say he is a good player at all. He tried to do cool strategies like nydus and roach drop against a mass thor terran and lost completely.
he won a few games because of his scouting (clever scouting for proxy) and base trades. I don't remember he won any by standard games at all
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Steveplayshorn
Profile Joined June 2011
United States36 Posts
December 05 2012 03:42 GMT
#119
Loved the video! TLO is such a great rep for esports. Thanks for being awesome :D
Horn, Redline Brass Quintet
black_ICE
Profile Joined November 2011
United States59 Posts
December 05 2012 03:56 GMT
#120
Would have been awesome if they featured Haypro.

RIP Banjo
"We turn ourselves in now, they'll give us 20 years in the electric chair." - Darren Roskow
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