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On December 05 2012 04:41 SpikeStarcraft wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2012 04:34 Willba wrote:On December 05 2012 04:26 SpikeStarcraft wrote:On December 05 2012 03:29 Kilby wrote:On December 05 2012 03:09 SpikeStarcraft wrote:I was expecting people on the tl forum to be able to use a proxy. I just use my standard program for it and im fine  was kinda funny, tlo likes his role as a superhero^^ although hes not actually one of the top players in europe nor in Germany skillwise. Fanbase and Community wise hes one of the top foreigners, Not one of the top players in Germany? I would disagree with that. Please name five German players who are better than TLO. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_StarCraft_II_World_Championship_Series/Europe/Nationals/GermanyIn WCS Germany he placed 9-12th, losing to hasu obs and Jaxx. Players who placed better were Socke, Hasuobs, Darkforce, Krass, Heromarine, DBS, Jaxx and Kara. DBS, Jaxx and Kara are inactive at the moment. so there are 5 people left: Socke, Hasuobs, Darkforce, Krass and Heromarine being significantly better than TLO and still active. I would count Hanfy better too since he won the last german EPS against players like Hasu, Socke and Monchi. That would be 6 players being better. Then there are people roughly at the same level like Delphi and Tarrantius who placed 9-12th too at WCS and Goody which i wouldnt consider definetely inferior to TLO. But well, now that TLO lives in Berlin, Germany he could compete in the next season of the German EPS and show where hes at in the German scene skillwise. These results are 6 months old and TLO has improved a lot during this time. At this current point in time he is definitely one of the best German players. Hes not competing much against German players. Thats true. But what indicates that hes better than socke, hasuobs, darkforce, krass, heromarine or hanfy? He gets invited to a lot of tournaments and he has a big fanbase but thats no reason why I would consider him better. If he wants to be one of the top players in Germany he has to prove it yet. You need to give a reason why he would be better than those people i named. Its unfortunately that Darkforce didnt play WCG, i think he could have placed good. Hasuobs did do well at IEM singapore. TLO gets a lot of exposure everywhere, hes much more present than other players. but thats no indication of skill.
TLO went 4-1 in his group at DH Winter, being the only player with HerO to take games off him in the entire tournament, let alone beat him. Now that may not be amazing, but he also beat DIMAGA, Bischu and TargA. That result alone places him above a lot of those players.
Also, no offence but Heromarine and Krass are bettter? That's like saying KilleR and Suppy are better than Stephano because they placed higher in BWC. Heromarine and Krass don't have much going for them but a few German tournaments and WCS Germany; TLO competes mainly in international tournaments as opposed to German.
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Haha that was great
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I really want to see it. Can a NA citizen plz record with say, hypercam 2, so I can view it?
P.S: It says im from US but I'm UK
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It loads google but nothing more :/
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Exposure exposure exposure
It's always awesome to see when gaming is broadcasted to a wider audience, I always feel it legitimises it somewhat.
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Great watch. TLO and the host were very entertaining and I was thoroughly amused. Grats on getting on TV, Dario! :D
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Great job TLO! That was a breath of fresh air to watch. The part where the host tried to play made me cringe xD
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It's like "E.T." but with Arnold Schwarzenegger playing the noob and TLO playing the alien who is being chased by NASA scientists who want to experiment on him!
Awesome!
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On December 05 2012 05:25 Mariosatr wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2012 04:41 SpikeStarcraft wrote:On December 05 2012 04:34 Willba wrote:On December 05 2012 04:26 SpikeStarcraft wrote:On December 05 2012 03:29 Kilby wrote:On December 05 2012 03:09 SpikeStarcraft wrote:I was expecting people on the tl forum to be able to use a proxy. I just use my standard program for it and im fine was kinda funny, tlo likes his role as a superhero^^ although hes not actually one of the top players in europe nor in Germany skillwise. Fanbase and Community wise hes one of the top foreigners, Not one of the top players in Germany? I would disagree with that. Please name five German players who are better than TLO. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_StarCraft_II_World_Championship_Series/Europe/Nationals/GermanyIn WCS Germany he placed 9-12th, losing to hasu obs and Jaxx. Players who placed better were Socke, Hasuobs, Darkforce, Krass, Heromarine, DBS, Jaxx and Kara. DBS, Jaxx and Kara are inactive at the moment. so there are 5 people left: Socke, Hasuobs, Darkforce, Krass and Heromarine being significantly better than TLO and still active. I would count Hanfy better too since he won the last german EPS against players like Hasu, Socke and Monchi. That would be 6 players being better. Then there are people roughly at the same level like Delphi and Tarrantius who placed 9-12th too at WCS and Goody which i wouldnt consider definetely inferior to TLO. But well, now that TLO lives in Berlin, Germany he could compete in the next season of the German EPS and show where hes at in the German scene skillwise. These results are 6 months old and TLO has improved a lot during this time. At this current point in time he is definitely one of the best German players. Hes not competing much against German players. Thats true. But what indicates that hes better than socke, hasuobs, darkforce, krass, heromarine or hanfy? He gets invited to a lot of tournaments and he has a big fanbase but thats no reason why I would consider him better. If he wants to be one of the top players in Germany he has to prove it yet. You need to give a reason why he would be better than those people i named. Its unfortunately that Darkforce didnt play WCG, i think he could have placed good. Hasuobs did do well at IEM singapore. TLO gets a lot of exposure everywhere, hes much more present than other players. but thats no indication of skill. TLO went 4-1 in his group at DH Winter, being the only player with HerO to take games off him in the entire tournament, let alone beat him. Now that may not be amazing, but he also beat DIMAGA, Bischu and TargA. That result alone places him above a lot of those players. Also, no offence but Heromarine and Krass are bettter? That's like saying KilleR and Suppy are better than Stephano because they placed higher in BWC. Heromarine and Krass don't have much going for them but a few German tournaments and WCS Germany; TLO competes mainly in international tournaments as opposed to German.
Actually, they are becoming really really good now. I remember Hasu losing to Krass several times lately.
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How cool would it be to be part of that study?! I wonder if the participants are being paid to play O_o! Anyways, awesome segment. Congrats TLO! Represent.
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On December 05 2012 06:07 Roybs wrote:It loads google but nothing more :/
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Just copy paste the url of the video in the URL area in the page and it'll get you there.
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On December 05 2012 07:02 Clout308 wrote:
How cool would it be to be part of that study?!
You CAN be part of the study.
SkillCraft is an ongoing research program investigating cognitive motor expertise through the analysis of game data. Our scientific paper is now out for review, and we're working on more projects (and awaiting results from grant applications).
Our next project is a longitudinal study were players who have saved a large percentage of their replays can submit all their games to us for analysis. We're planning to be ready to collect data in February, before the HoTS release, so save your replays!
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Still doesn't work for me even with that proxy, why can't somebody just record it and upload it to youtube? It's not that hard.
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I actually took former host Jay Ingram up to the Burgess Shale.
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On December 05 2012 06:54 MWY wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2012 05:25 Mariosatr wrote:On December 05 2012 04:41 SpikeStarcraft wrote:On December 05 2012 04:34 Willba wrote:On December 05 2012 04:26 SpikeStarcraft wrote:On December 05 2012 03:29 Kilby wrote:On December 05 2012 03:09 SpikeStarcraft wrote:I was expecting people on the tl forum to be able to use a proxy. I just use my standard program for it and im fine was kinda funny, tlo likes his role as a superhero^^ although hes not actually one of the top players in europe nor in Germany skillwise. Fanbase and Community wise hes one of the top foreigners, Not one of the top players in Germany? I would disagree with that. Please name five German players who are better than TLO. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_StarCraft_II_World_Championship_Series/Europe/Nationals/GermanyIn WCS Germany he placed 9-12th, losing to hasu obs and Jaxx. Players who placed better were Socke, Hasuobs, Darkforce, Krass, Heromarine, DBS, Jaxx and Kara. DBS, Jaxx and Kara are inactive at the moment. so there are 5 people left: Socke, Hasuobs, Darkforce, Krass and Heromarine being significantly better than TLO and still active. I would count Hanfy better too since he won the last german EPS against players like Hasu, Socke and Monchi. That would be 6 players being better. Then there are people roughly at the same level like Delphi and Tarrantius who placed 9-12th too at WCS and Goody which i wouldnt consider definetely inferior to TLO. But well, now that TLO lives in Berlin, Germany he could compete in the next season of the German EPS and show where hes at in the German scene skillwise. These results are 6 months old and TLO has improved a lot during this time. At this current point in time he is definitely one of the best German players. Hes not competing much against German players. Thats true. But what indicates that hes better than socke, hasuobs, darkforce, krass, heromarine or hanfy? He gets invited to a lot of tournaments and he has a big fanbase but thats no reason why I would consider him better. If he wants to be one of the top players in Germany he has to prove it yet. You need to give a reason why he would be better than those people i named. Its unfortunately that Darkforce didnt play WCG, i think he could have placed good. Hasuobs did do well at IEM singapore. TLO gets a lot of exposure everywhere, hes much more present than other players. but thats no indication of skill. TLO went 4-1 in his group at DH Winter, being the only player with HerO to take games off him in the entire tournament, let alone beat him. Now that may not be amazing, but he also beat DIMAGA, Bischu and TargA. That result alone places him above a lot of those players. Also, no offence but Heromarine and Krass are bettter? That's like saying KilleR and Suppy are better than Stephano because they placed higher in BWC. Heromarine and Krass don't have much going for them but a few German tournaments and WCS Germany; TLO competes mainly in international tournaments as opposed to German. Actually, they are becoming really really good now. I remember Hasu losing to Krass several times lately.
I'm sure they could be improving, but still, the point was that TLO is a pretty high-tier foreigner. WCS Germany isn't the only viewpoint, and while DH Winter isn't too, you have to admit he's been doing a lot better recently; while KraSs may be getting better, I doubt he'll be able to compete on an international level like TLO does until atleast 2013.
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Worked fine with my adblock, just make sure you update your adblock.
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That was a pretty cool segment. I like that the focus on it was mostly the cognitive science research and what it means to be studying these top gamers.
It's also amusing to me how on the same episode (in part I) is a segment on the sodium ball experiment here at my university. I would have never have found out about it if it were not for the TLO segment.
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This worked, thank you. It's nice to know that studying people playing/learning to play starfcraft might prove so useful.
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