EPT[Interview] Code S Semi Finals 2012 GSL Season 5 - Page 6
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Weavel
Finland9222 Posts
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On December 01 2012 22:14 Dodgin wrote: It was really rude to Sniper but there's really no better way to get his point across than to type it in the chat for all to see when all the Blizzard employees are sitting in the audience. I guess. I just hope they talked it over after the match cause rivalies is one thing but like you said, this was just rude. | ||
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Swisslink
2954 Posts
On December 01 2012 22:08 NovemberstOrm wrote: pro-gamers whine because this is(the game) their job the game should at least be balanced, you should understand it's frustrating to take years of your life away to play a game you love as your job but only to lose(not to due to skill) but because of many imperfections int he game. You also ignore parts of the interview where he calls people no skill for saying zerg op, and that Terran players are shameless. Well, you should consider that the interview was right after the matches - a few hours later, Sniper would probably have answered differently, but I totally understand why he was kind of disappointed by Ryungs behaviour. There's absolutely no excuse for such rude behavious in a semi final and even IdrA never whined live on stage in GSL as far as I know (Even though he sometimes "forgot" to type GG :-P ) | ||
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LightSpectra
United States2279 Posts
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Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Germany2959 Posts
On December 01 2012 22:14 Dodgin wrote: It was really rude to Sniper but there's really no better way to get his point across than to type it in the chat for all to see when all the Blizzard employees are sitting in the audience. That's rather childish though. "Oh Blizzard employees are watching, perfect time to balance whine on stage as they'll have to address this then (in my limited point of view)." By that logic Blizzard shouldn't even attend such events because people just try to prove their point via ingame chat instead of just typing gg, not immediately discrediting their opponent and actually address their concerns in an interview or so afterwards. The idea that Blizzard employees who watch Starcraft 2 events are supposed to feel guilty for what's going on instead of enjoying a tournament is ridiculous. Let them just watch the darn tournament and don't try to force knee-jerk balance reactions on them due to the currently ongoing tournament. They won't ignore the results, don't worry. | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On December 01 2012 22:19 S_SienZ wrote: That's Kespa rules, and if strictly enforced, stuff like "gl in finals" would technically be in violation as well. well http://www.gomtv.net/2011gslsponsors3/news/64582 Automatic Loss Rule Sending chat messages other than ‘GG’, ‘gg’, ‘ㅎㅎ’,'ㅈㅈ' to declare the loss during the game. So it gives you auto loss, not sure if there would be a punishment but they are prolly at least giving him a warning. | ||
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zerious
Canada3803 Posts
On December 01 2012 21:45 Assirra wrote: Mvp also said terran was the weakest race back in 2011 when you had utter domination... maybe Mvp was on to something | ||
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eniGzor
Australia95 Posts
On December 01 2012 22:26 Assirra wrote: well http://www.gomtv.net/2011gslsponsors3/news/64582 Automatic Loss Rule Sending chat messages other than ‘GG’, ‘gg’, ‘ㅎㅎ’,'ㅈㅈ' to declare the loss during the game. So it gives you auto loss, not sure if there would be a punishment but they are prolly at least giving him a warning. They'll give him a warming, they did the same thing to Bomber when he tried to /dance his units at the end of a game but forgot the "/" at the start. So he received a warning (Yellow card like). | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On December 01 2012 22:25 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote: That's rather childish though. "Oh Blizzard employees are watching, perfect time to balance whine on stage as they'll have to address this then (in my limited point of view)." By that logic Blizzard shouldn't even attend such events because people just try to prove their point via ingame chat instead of just typing gg, not immediately discrediting their opponent and actually address their concerns in an interview or so afterwards. The idea that Blizzard employees who watch Starcraft 2 events are supposed to feel guilty for what's going on instead of enjoying a tournament is ridiculous. Let them just watch the darn tournament and don't try to force knee-jerk balance reactions on them due to the currently ongoing tournament. They won't ignore the results, don't worry. The pro players are getting desperate because this has been going on for 7 months and there have been no balance changes, so you get outbursts like this. If Blizzard did their job and balanced the game better earlier on it wouldn't have to get to the point where we have all the top threads on Reddit complaining about Zerg and people threatening to quit the game or stop watching the game if nothing changes. Maybe It's childish but all I can do right now is feel bad for the pro gamers that have to endure the current state of the game for a living, if I were them I would have quit or changed my race. At least Protoss has their all ins that will work more often than fail if they are better than their opponent. | ||
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Sakray
France2198 Posts
Ryung stated "IMBA" in the chat right at the last minute. Terran players are shameless. I know that a lot of people are calling Zerg imba these days but I honestly just think it's an excuse for people with no skills. Regardless of the map or race, the superior player always wins so I just don't understand why they behave that way. I don't even understand why sometimes the winning players start whining. So much trashtalk haha But ZvZ is kinda boring so I guess I won't watch it :/ | ||
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On December 01 2012 22:28 Dodgin wrote: Maybe It's childish but all I can do right now is feel bad for the pro gamers that have to endure the current state of the game for a living, if I were them I would have quit or changed my race. wasn't BW balance really bad as well for a significant stretch? | ||
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Let it Raine
Canada1245 Posts
On December 01 2012 20:34 MWY wrote: Gj Sniper insulting 95% of the players and the community. Even guys who dont play anymore and just watch and observe clearly are just calling zerg op because they suck. Gj random noobs implying a code s finalist doesn't know what he's talking about | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On December 01 2012 22:33 Let it Raine wrote: Gj random noobs implying a code s finalist doesn't know what he's talking about we should ask ex-fnatic rain's opinion, he's a gsl finalist too ;p | ||
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sertman
United States540 Posts
On December 01 2012 22:33 Let it Raine wrote: Gj random noobs implying a code s finalist doesn't know what he's talking about MVP's been saying Zerg's imbalanced for a really long time now... he's been to 5x as many finals as this kid. I understand why Sniper has that mentality, otherwise he wouldn't feel very good about winning and that's why we play the game. Doesn't make it any less wrong, though. | ||
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LightSpectra
United States2279 Posts
On December 01 2012 22:32 opterown wrote: wasn't BW balance really bad as well for a significant stretch? Blizzard didn't release any balance patches after BW got big. There was stretches of imbalance in the metagame; for example when Savior was in his prime, ZvP was considered almost unwinnable. Then the Bisu revolution happened. | ||
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yolteotl
France76 Posts
Imba units are awesome and necessary... with balanced maps ! | ||
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Swisslink
2954 Posts
On December 01 2012 22:28 Dodgin wrote: The pro players are getting desperate because this has been going on for 7 months and there have been no balance changes, so you get outbursts like this. If Blizzard did their job and balanced the game better earlier on it wouldn't have to get to the point where we have all the top threads on Reddit complaining about Zerg and people threatening to quit the game or stop watching the game if nothing changes. Maybe It's childish but all I can do right now is feel bad for the pro gamers that have to endure the current state of the game for a living, if I were them I would have quit or changed my race. At least Protoss has their all ins that will work more often than fail if they are better than their opponent. What has been going on for 7 month? Zerg domination in premier tournaments? Not really, starting May 2012, Terran won 5 of them, Zerg 8, Protoss 9. Yeah, the Terrans are worse than the other two, but "domination" is something else (for example when Terran won about as many tournaments as the other two races combined) | ||
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krutopatkin
Germany2612 Posts
On December 01 2012 21:39 MaNaVoId wrote: Hello sniper fanboy, he did not say Ryung is shameless but calling terran PLAYERS shameless. So according to him, 1/3 of teamliquid users and myself are shameless people. terrans are pretty annoying nowadays tbh | ||
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Dr_Jones
Norway252 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On December 01 2012 22:46 Swisslink wrote: What has been going on for 7 month? Zerg domination in premier tournaments? Not really, starting May 2012, Terran won 5 of them, Zerg 8, Protoss 9. Yeah, the Terrans are worse than the other two, but "domination" is something else (for example when Terran won about as many tournaments as the other two races combined) I don't know why you're asking me to explain myself on something I didn't say. I didn't say Zerg has been winning every tournament, you did. 7 months is how long it has been since the last balance patch. Looking at only the winners of tournaments to determine balance is a terrible idea, you should look at the game itself. For example if we take Taeja out of the numbers Terran goes down to 2 wins, during Taeja's really strong period he transcended the imbalance because he was simply the much better player than his opponents. | ||
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