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On November 28 2012 10:39 ref4 wrote:
I can't imagine doing the exact same thing day in day out would be fun anymore. That's why progaming is a job and no longer just "playing a couple of hours of video games with meh buddies on the weekend".
Ok, take your FAVORITE video game/activity/hobby whatever and do that 8 hours a day for 6 days a week. I will give you 4 dollars if you don't hate it after 2 months of that.
I guess lack of interest is sometimes an explanation when a pro gamer is in slump. E.g. Bisu.
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On November 28 2012 10:50 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2012 08:41 Spermwahale wrote:
@emzeeshady: oh pleasw shut up. Cant you see they are pressured by kespa to say that? If you have seen former pros in afreeca. They all have said sc2 is complete garbage. To be fair, the fact they are former pros probably means they didn't enjoy sc2 or were not good at it (which is likely related). As for Kespa pressure, that could be true. But do current progamers really need Kespa pressure to tout the 'SC2 is fun' line? Even if Kespa allowed you to say whatever you want, why would you say something negative about the game you are making money off of? When you practice 10 + hours a day, I am sure even if progamers say they have 'fun'. It is different from the 'fun' that we as gamers have.
former pros in afreeca?
not sure if serious...
edit: referring to Spermwahale's quote
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I was hoping that quote was referring to him not playing in GSL would really like his input on that matter.
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On November 28 2012 10:52 darkness wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2012 10:39 ref4 wrote:
I can't imagine doing the exact same thing day in day out would be fun anymore. That's why progaming is a job and no longer just "playing a couple of hours of video games with meh buddies on the weekend".
Ok, take your FAVORITE video game/activity/hobby whatever and do that 8 hours a day for 6 days a week. I will give you 4 dollars if you don't hate it after 2 months of that. I guess lack of interest is sometimes an explanation when a pro gamer is in slump. E.g. Bisu.
You can't really say Bisu's in a slump until Proleague starts again.
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I don't like that he said StarCraft 2 is boring and he only plays for money. It makes me don't want to play alot to get into master 
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On November 28 2012 10:19 bokchoi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2012 09:57 ScandiNAVIan wrote:On November 28 2012 09:29 Zenbrez wrote:On November 28 2012 08:22 ScandiNAVIan wrote:
I wish I were playing a race too which allowed me the luxury of not taking risks. Then switch. No big deal. I've switched 5 times, and never had to drop below masters. I have self-respect. Apparently not enough to not pick it in the beginning! :D
Are you trying to make sense or talking nonsense on purpose?
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On November 28 2012 10:37 Kyrao wrote:
I've never realized just how lazy Stephano seems to be... He doesn't want to do GSL because he doesn't want to put in the work of researching his opponents and there isn't enough money in it. I used to love this guy, now I'm just like, meh.
I honestly think he truly believes that he is just intellectually superior to everyone else and wants to go out of his way to show how lazy he is because he feels that it makes him seem more like a "natural." I'm not saying he's not, but it's sad how far he goes out of his way to make sure people see how little effort he puts into it. What a douche. Seriously. He'll never fully realize his potential, but whatever.
Mindgames.
He says he is lazy, but what if he is actually doing a hard work to catch his opponents off guard? Then, by making us think that way, he could be lazy indeed. No one knows. Lying in interviews is a part of strategy IMO.
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On November 28 2012 10:52 ref4 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2012 10:50 vthree wrote:On November 28 2012 08:41 Spermwahale wrote:
@emzeeshady: oh pleasw shut up. Cant you see they are pressured by kespa to say that? If you have seen former pros in afreeca. They all have said sc2 is complete garbage. To be fair, the fact they are former pros probably means they didn't enjoy sc2 or were not good at it (which is likely related). As for Kespa pressure, that could be true. But do current progamers really need Kespa pressure to tout the 'SC2 is fun' line? Even if Kespa allowed you to say whatever you want, why would you say something negative about the game you are making money off of? When you practice 10 + hours a day, I am sure even if progamers say they have 'fun'. It is different from the 'fun' that we as gamers have. former pros in afreeca? not sure if serious... edit: referring to Spermwahale's quote
Afreeca is the korean eqvuilent to Twitch/Own3d, a lot of former BW pros like to stream through it.
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On November 28 2012 10:50 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2012 08:41 Spermwahale wrote:
@emzeeshady: oh pleasw shut up. Cant you see they are pressured by kespa to say that? If you have seen former pros in afreeca. They all have said sc2 is complete garbage. To be fair, the fact they are former pros probably means they didn't enjoy sc2 or were not good at it (which is likely related). As for Kespa pressure, that could be true. But do current progamers really need Kespa pressure to tout the 'SC2 is fun' line? Even if Kespa allowed you to say whatever you want, why would you say something negative about the game you are making money off of? When you practice 10 + hours a day, I am sure even if progamers say they have 'fun'. It is different from the 'fun' that we as gamers have.
Fantasy said in an interview that he wasn't enjoy SC2 and then a week later after he advance in the first round of Code A he was talking about how much he was enjoying it. That to me sounds like someone talked to him about watching his mouth. I think a lot of the former BW pros don't like the switch because they are used to playing something completely different. You honestly can't blame them, a lot of them were basically forced to switch to a game that they had no interest in at all.
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BW afreeca players don't like SC2 that's why they don't play it lol
also classical musicians tend to enjoy their jobs, which requires a lot of practice/time. And I remember Bisu would say he still enjoyed playing BW when he was good at it, but Jaedong said he played mainly for the competition rather than the game.. TBH I think enjoying a game relates a lot to your success, so ofc Fantasy would say he's having fun if he's winning lol
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Really enjoy this series of videos, thanks!
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On November 28 2012 11:06 Eee wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2012 10:52 ref4 wrote:On November 28 2012 10:50 vthree wrote:On November 28 2012 08:41 Spermwahale wrote:
@emzeeshady: oh pleasw shut up. Cant you see they are pressured by kespa to say that? If you have seen former pros in afreeca. They all have said sc2 is complete garbage. To be fair, the fact they are former pros probably means they didn't enjoy sc2 or were not good at it (which is likely related). As for Kespa pressure, that could be true. But do current progamers really need Kespa pressure to tout the 'SC2 is fun' line? Even if Kespa allowed you to say whatever you want, why would you say something negative about the game you are making money off of? When you practice 10 + hours a day, I am sure even if progamers say they have 'fun'. It is different from the 'fun' that we as gamers have. former pros in afreeca? not sure if serious... edit: referring to Spermwahale's quote Afreeca is the korean eqvuilent to Twitch/Own3d, a lot of former BW pros like to stream through it.
oh sorry, didn't know that.
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On November 28 2012 10:56 GolemMadness wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2012 10:52 darkness wrote:On November 28 2012 10:39 ref4 wrote:
I can't imagine doing the exact same thing day in day out would be fun anymore. That's why progaming is a job and no longer just "playing a couple of hours of video games with meh buddies on the weekend".
Ok, take your FAVORITE video game/activity/hobby whatever and do that 8 hours a day for 6 days a week. I will give you 4 dollars if you don't hate it after 2 months of that. I guess lack of interest is sometimes an explanation when a pro gamer is in slump. E.g. Bisu. You can't really say Bisu's in a slump until Proleague starts again.
you can't really say bisu is slumping when he hasn't gotten good at sc2 yet.
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On November 28 2012 11:42 Tsutchie wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2012 10:56 GolemMadness wrote:On November 28 2012 10:52 darkness wrote:On November 28 2012 10:39 ref4 wrote:
I can't imagine doing the exact same thing day in day out would be fun anymore. That's why progaming is a job and no longer just "playing a couple of hours of video games with meh buddies on the weekend".
Ok, take your FAVORITE video game/activity/hobby whatever and do that 8 hours a day for 6 days a week. I will give you 4 dollars if you don't hate it after 2 months of that. I guess lack of interest is sometimes an explanation when a pro gamer is in slump. E.g. Bisu. You can't really say Bisu's in a slump until Proleague starts again. you can't really say bisu is slumping when he hasn't gotten good at sc2 yet.
Soon he will retake his spot as Rain's mentor, not his practice bitch =)... JUST WAIT! He will revolutionized sc2 with his 2 base phoenix dt play!
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On November 28 2012 07:55 mordk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2012 07:46 zhurai wrote:On November 28 2012 07:41 Zheryn wrote:
"There is absolutely no fun in playing Starcraft 2 anymore, the only thing that's fun is to win." Can't see Stephano being around that much longer. Probably won't see anything of Stephano in HotS. I don't think most pros have "fun" playing starcraft. they just want to and have to win. That's just sad, I wouldn't play at all if it were only for money.
Why not? A lot of us work jobs we don't like. Or hate, even. And most of us don't do it for a $96k salary  You'd play a game for that kind of money. I'd stand in the streets wearing a banana suit for that kind of money.
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Hmmm, 45 minutes? Am I up to it?
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Interesting how one of the best foreigners is one of the least passionate as well. So far Stephano's perspective on the matter seems to be the most objective in terms of the real world.
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On November 28 2012 08:31 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2012 07:51 zerious wrote:On November 28 2012 07:46 zhurai wrote:On November 28 2012 07:41 Zheryn wrote:
"There is absolutely no fun in playing Starcraft 2 anymore, the only thing that's fun is to win." Can't see Stephano being around that much longer. Probably won't see anything of Stephano in HotS. I don't think most pros have "fun" playing starcraft. they just want to and have to win. It's just a job for most pros, which makes it sad. Blizzard, oh how you have fucked up... A lot of Kespa players said SC2 was "more fun" then Starcraft
Do you know why they said so? Otherwise you shouldn't say that.
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Stephano = Idra #2
On November 28 2012 08:31 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2012 07:51 zerious wrote:On November 28 2012 07:46 zhurai wrote:On November 28 2012 07:41 Zheryn wrote:
"There is absolutely no fun in playing Starcraft 2 anymore, the only thing that's fun is to win." Can't see Stephano being around that much longer. Probably won't see anything of Stephano in HotS. I don't think most pros have "fun" playing starcraft. they just want to and have to win. It's just a job for most pros, which makes it sad. Blizzard, oh how you have fucked up... A lot of Kespa players said SC2 was "more fun" then Starcraft
1) they want to make people think sc2 is fun (which is a problem they never had with bw).
2) the best players really loved the game. just read Jaedongs interviews from back then. and read about his time as a free agent when he basically said: i don't care if i get more money elsewhere, i just want to play bw with my team (OZ). I remember when Flash got the question in an interview about what he liked to do in his spare time. he answered "try playing the other races"...
3) who besides Jangbi said that anyway?
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On November 28 2012 12:24 PiQLiQ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2012 08:31 Emzeeshady wrote:On November 28 2012 07:51 zerious wrote:On November 28 2012 07:46 zhurai wrote:On November 28 2012 07:41 Zheryn wrote:
"There is absolutely no fun in playing Starcraft 2 anymore, the only thing that's fun is to win." Can't see Stephano being around that much longer. Probably won't see anything of Stephano in HotS. I don't think most pros have "fun" playing starcraft. they just want to and have to win. It's just a job for most pros, which makes it sad. Blizzard, oh how you have fucked up... A lot of Kespa players said SC2 was "more fun" then Starcraft Do you know why they said so? Otherwise you shouldn't say that.
It's funny that you guys said that most pros don't have fun in SC2 like you know what they think LOL. Pros who play the game with passion like Rain(he even said that in his free time his hobby is still SC2),Parting,Creator,Life and many more who you can tell how passionate they are about the game are always the most successful.
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