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Incomplet
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1419 Posts
November 27 2012 13:08 GMT
#61
On November 27 2012 21:41 FXOBoSs wrote:
Btw, to prove its not FXO, I will let you know we play on the 8th in the GSTL final, so unless leenock can run reallllllly fast.........


Confirmed liar now. We all know Leenock can run 100 metres in 12 seconds.
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bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
November 27 2012 13:09 GMT
#62
On November 27 2012 22:00 Clbull wrote:
My guess is Team Acer. Think about it this way:
  • They appointed Cella as a coach. It would be a waste of time getting a Korean coach for a primarily European team.
  • Acer are a pretty big-name sponsor for a team. Perhaps even as big as say.... SK Telecom, Samsung, CJ Corporation, KT etc.
  • Scarlett's had Korean aspirations. It was one of the reasons she joined Eclypsia and left them after they failed to fulfill their promises on a Korean team house after all.
  • Acer probably have more than enough funds to rent an apartment in Seoul and use it as a team house.
  • Acer can acquire loads of Koreans. SlayerS recently disbanded meaning that players like Arthur and Clide are (still) up for grabs; a few really good Koreans such as TOP, VINES, Ensnare, TheWinD etc.
  • There are a few (even virtually) teamless foreigners with Korean aspirations such as lastshadow and MajOr. If MajOr rejoined ROOT then left again, it probably means that he was actually offered a spot in a team, and if Proleague's coming up, he could be joining Acer soon. MajOr's only been known to leave teams in SC2 when they've either greatly wronged him (Sixjax, although they kicked him over a minor incident of BM) or because another team has given him a better offer than either retracted it or didn't deliver (ROOT, xSix.)


Honestly point 4 could apply to anyone then. A lot of international teams could just straight up "acquire" all those koreans. By that logic Azubu and SK are in the running =P

Major is after a kespa team, not a team which may play against kespa.

And Acer has the same issue as Liquid: too small given the too few players they'd base in Korea. Nerchio is adamantly local to EU. Scarlett, Bly and MMA might make up some of the team, but even then I doubt Scarlett and Bly are committing to a full year of Korea. So if Acer do it, they need to do point 4. Not even "maybe", but "have to". As stated, point 4 could mean anyone is in the running.

Now on topic of guessing, for some reason a number of teams were never raised. People only seemed to note EG, Liquid, Fnatic and FXO KR (which is the weirdest thing to note...), but why not Complexity or Quantic?

I mean. It's gonna be EG...
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Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1351 Posts
November 27 2012 13:09 GMT
#63
Yeah english casting and I hope EG is the new team^^
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Lumi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1616 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-27 13:12:29
November 27 2012 13:10 GMT
#64
On November 27 2012 21:34 Fenrax wrote:
wtf...

how is it possible that esf and kespa cant get to a fucking agreement...


This question is as silly as asking "how is it po ssible that x and kespa cant get to a fucking agreement"

Where "x" could be anything xD My estimate, anyhow.
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nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3772 Posts
November 27 2012 13:12 GMT
#65
Quantic has reasonably long lineup though they will be crushed I'm afraid.

Acer seems reasonable as well. Even more, though some players - like Nerchio - are unwilling to go to Korea...
soulist
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States932 Posts
November 27 2012 13:12 GMT
#66
On November 27 2012 22:00 Clbull wrote:
My guess is Team Acer. Think about it this way:
  • They appointed Cella as a coach. It would be a waste of time getting a Korean coach for a primarily European team.
  • Acer are a pretty big-name sponsor for a team. Perhaps even as big as say.... SK Telecom, Samsung, CJ Corporation, KT etc.
  • Scarlett's had Korean aspirations. It was one of the reasons she joined Eclypsia and left them after they failed to fulfill their promises on a Korean team house after all.
  • Acer probably have more than enough funds to rent an apartment in Seoul and use it as a team house.
  • Acer can acquire loads of Koreans. SlayerS recently disbanded meaning that players like Arthur and Clide are (still) up for grabs; a few really good Koreans such as TOP, VINES, Ensnare, TheWinD etc.
  • There are a few (even virtually) teamless foreigners with Korean aspirations such as lastshadow and MajOr. If MajOr rejoined ROOT then left again, it probably means that he was actually offered a spot in a team, and if Proleague's coming up, he could be joining Acer soon. MajOr's only been known to leave teams in SC2 when they've either greatly wronged him (Sixjax, although they kicked him over a minor incident of BM) or because another team has given him a better offer than either retracted it or didn't deliver (ROOT, xSix.)


I'm going to rebuke most of your arguments.

Like acer, eg just got a Korean manager/coach.

The players you named are not good Koreans. Most of the people you mentioned haven't been seen in the gsl in the last year. Plus clide is a coach in kt.

Major stated he wanted to join a kespa team because its his dream. He's not joining acer. Also lastshadow has not been doing well in sc2 and he's said in many interviews that he would live in Korea if it wasn't for sc2 because he loves it there.

Not saying its not acer, but most of your arguments don't make sense.

Evil Geniuses<3
FlukyS
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Ireland485 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-27 13:30:35
November 27 2012 13:13 GMT
#67
I was thinking a while back going by what incontrol was saying that EG were going to do a team house in Korea at the beginning of next year and maybe along with that they will sign a team of 5 Koreans to play in pro league. All I know is neither Liquid or EG have enough players to compete in Team Leagues with their current set ups. Liquid being spread out and not having a very deep roster most Korean teams have 8 or so high level players and for some around 10 b-team players Liquid if they joined pro league they would be banking on the other teams not having snipers ready just for Taeja and Hero. And EG's roster being mostly in Texas is an issue.
Krogan
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden375 Posts
November 27 2012 13:13 GMT
#68
The foreign team should be Liquid but prob won't be. However this is easily now the least interesting tournament in the world for me, it is the only tournament where most of top players are NOT ALLOWED to participate, such a strange concept.
RyF
Profile Joined October 2011
Austria508 Posts
November 27 2012 13:14 GMT
#69
Liquid?

Sea, Taeja, Zenio, Hero + maybe TLO in good shape.... 5 is enough
NguN
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1322 Posts
November 27 2012 13:14 GMT
#70
This is great for SC2 fans.

But, the drawback to a year long format, is that it completely eliminates the chance of any collaboration of a joint league for 1 whole year

Also, matches being revealed first again? I think it was better that way because you could get hyped about epic matches, but aren't they worried about any match-fixing scandal again?
nepeta
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
1872 Posts
November 27 2012 13:15 GMT
#71
They should get their stuff together already, make a league with Kespa, Gom, and as many foreigners they can squeeze in, per internet if needs be. If SC2 won't stand together, all that BW build up in credibility and sponsor infrastructure will go to waste, or get transfered to LoL or w/e...
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soulist
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States932 Posts
November 27 2012 13:17 GMT
#72
On November 27 2012 22:14 RyF wrote:
Liquid?

Sea, Taeja, Zenio, Hero + maybe TLO in good shape.... 5 is enough


They will lose every game. 5 players is soooo easy for the kespa teams to prepare for.
Evil Geniuses<3
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
November 27 2012 13:19 GMT
#73
On November 27 2012 22:14 RyF wrote:
Liquid?

Sea, Taeja, Zenio, Hero + maybe TLO in good shape.... 5 is enough


They need 6 players minimum to play in a bo7 ace match format.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-27 13:26:08
November 27 2012 13:22 GMT
#74
No ESF teams is fucking stupid. Hope they manage to provide us with a decent stream this time, the stream for this last OSL was pretty terrible.

Also I hate that 2 rounds will be winner's league format, so sick of that shit in SC2 at the moment.
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ES.Genie
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1370 Posts
November 27 2012 13:26 GMT
#75
On November 27 2012 22:00 Clbull wrote:
My guess is Team Acer. Think about it this way:
  • They appointed Cella as a coach. It would be a waste of time getting a Korean coach for a primarily European team.
  • Acer are a pretty big-name sponsor for a team. Perhaps even as big as say.... SK Telecom, Samsung, CJ Corporation, KT etc.
  • Scarlett's had Korean aspirations. It was one of the reasons she joined Eclypsia and left them after they failed to fulfill their promises on a Korean team house after all.
  • Acer probably have more than enough funds to rent an apartment in Seoul and use it as a team house.
  • Acer can acquire loads of Koreans. SlayerS recently disbanded meaning that players like Arthur and Clide are (still) up for grabs; a few really good Koreans such as TOP, VINES, Ensnare, TheWinD etc.
  • There are a few (even virtually) teamless foreigners with Korean aspirations such as lastshadow and MajOr. If MajOr rejoined ROOT then left again, it probably means that he was actually offered a spot in a team, and if Proleague's coming up, he could be joining Acer soon. MajOr's only been known to leave teams in SC2 when they've either greatly wronged him (Sixjax, although they kicked him over a minor incident of BM) or because another team has given him a better offer than either retracted it or didn't deliver (ROOT, xSix.)

Man, it would be awesome if Acer or whatever team it's going to be, grabs up all the teamless Koreans right now and forms a real team(not some kind of 6man squad).

Oh and btw, I'm pretty sure Clide is a coach for KT.
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ZerglingTwins
Profile Joined October 2012
United States850 Posts
November 27 2012 13:27 GMT
#76
On November 27 2012 22:22 Hall0wed wrote:
No ESF teams is fucking stupid. Hope they manage to provide us with a decent stream this time, the stream for this last OSL was pretty terrible.


If some ESF teams asked KeSPA for join proleague, they sure will be considered seriously. Obviously no ESF team wants to join proleague to dicredit GSTL.
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EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
November 27 2012 13:27 GMT
#77
English cast! ) Hurray!
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Fueled
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1610 Posts
November 27 2012 13:28 GMT
#78
Its going to be so sick if its EG
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Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
November 27 2012 13:34 GMT
#79
It will be awkward when HotS release and they will be playing WoL for thw whole year.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51289 Posts
November 27 2012 13:35 GMT
#80
On November 27 2012 22:34 Wildmoon wrote:
It will be awkward when HotS release and they will be playing WoL for thw whole year.


its a rule in KeSPA to switch to the latest version of a game as soon as possible.
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