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GomTV accepts position as the head of eSF - Page 6

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Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
November 16 2012 16:34 GMT
#101
No more pretense of ESF independence?

Hell, it's about time.
My strategy is to fork people.
malady
Profile Joined November 2010
United States600 Posts
November 16 2012 16:36 GMT
#102
i bet they planned this all along.....


+ Show Spoiler +
::continues conspiracy theories::
dumchu
Gurgl
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-16 16:43:23
November 16 2012 16:38 GMT
#103
Hmm well I'm not sure if it's good for the league to represent the teams, I thought the meaning of ESF was for the teams to have some leverage towards leagues etc. I guess it's what the teams want.

"1. Educate players and coaches alike on professional behavior. AKA less drama making." I'm not sure that's a smart thing, people love drama. Maybe not koreans...
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-16 16:50:08
November 16 2012 16:49 GMT
#104
I imagine Mr.Chae somewhere putting on a dark cloak and instructing eSF players all over the world to execute order 66.
Get off my lawn, young punks
Rainman5419
Profile Joined January 2011
United States92 Posts
November 16 2012 17:07 GMT
#105
This is great news!
Member of UNT CSL, Season 5 CSL Champs! "The true test of a man’s character is what he does when no one is watching." -John Wooden
goldenwitch
Profile Joined August 2010
United States338 Posts
November 16 2012 17:25 GMT
#106
If I had to pick a potential dictator to rule over everything I love, I think Mr. Chae would be a good choice.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10161 Posts
November 16 2012 17:28 GMT
#107
On November 17 2012 01:38 Gurgl wrote:
Hmm well I'm not sure if it's good for the league to represent the teams, I thought the meaning of ESF was for the teams to have some leverage towards leagues etc. I guess it's what the teams want.

"1. Educate players and coaches alike on professional behavior. AKA less drama making." I'm not sure that's a smart thing, people love drama. Maybe not koreans...


Tell that to reddit and their mail sponsor's day.
mhael
Profile Joined January 2012
United States102 Posts
November 16 2012 17:31 GMT
#108
They should do something similiar to the American Football League and the National Football League joining forces into the NFL.
The two leagues should duke it out and have an OSL champion and a GSL champion who then go and face each other in in a world championship match like the Super Bowl.

I think the only issue that would come up is having the same guy win both leagues which is rare.

KissMeRed
Profile Joined June 2012
United States96 Posts
November 16 2012 17:46 GMT
#109
This is fine as long as a separate player's union is formed. Otherwise, the balance of power will be kinda wack.
Stress
Profile Joined February 2011
United States980 Posts
November 16 2012 17:53 GMT
#110
I seriously wonder how much cooperation is going to go on between KeSPA and eSF now. Hopefully though this will help out the team(s) that are having trouble financially(Prime).
"Touch my gosu hands." - Tastosis | | fOrGG // MC // Jaedong
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
November 16 2012 18:01 GMT
#111
Such an awesome time to be an esports enthusiast. Combined with the big MLG/DH/ESL partnership, all that's needed is for Kespa to enthusiastically join the fold and Starcraft will grow quickly. The viewership of GOM, the production quality of DH, and the marketing skill of MLG will make a powerful combination.
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
EliteSK
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)251 Posts
November 16 2012 18:02 GMT
#112
i think it's nice to see gretech/gom step up and take the reigns since they've already helped so much in developing SC2 before the BW guys switch. They'll continue playing an influential role.
renkin
Profile Joined July 2010
France249 Posts
November 16 2012 18:31 GMT
#113
GOM have now a legitimate way to put pressure on players and their only alternative if something goes bad is Kespa. How is it a good thing ?
It feels like those managers doesn't give a damn about it and just wanted to get rid of the extra work without really pondering the consequences...
Mr Chae doesn't seems like a bad guy ( if he is involved ) but he's not the only one in Gretech.
Nerski
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1095 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-16 18:39:09
November 16 2012 18:36 GMT
#114
it's a good move for esf, they needed more 'business savy' people leading the charge when dealing with kespa and other organizations. Gretech obviously already has those people, and this way the teams can worry more about being gaming teams then doing bushiness with everyone else and let Gretech take care of that end (which to some extent they already were). Additionally Gretech should have a better foot in the door with sponsors for the teams which should help out financially.

As far as kespa 2.0 concerns go, so long as the teams look out for the players it shouldn't be an issue. A large reason why kespa got out of control as far as the players went was because the teams were not really looking out for the players.

With the foreign scene having much more money and influence in SCII I think the odds the players get a bad shake in this deal are much lower then in the past. As if top korean players are feeling treated poorly they can do what many have done and seek a deal with a foreign team.
Twitter: @GoForNerski /// Youtube: Youtube.com/nerskisc
Fandango
Profile Joined October 2011
291 Posts
November 16 2012 20:10 GMT
#115
This is the moment the great korean experiment with the american dream fell apart.
Ettick
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States2434 Posts
November 16 2012 20:12 GMT
#116
I hope cooperation with KeSPA means that they'll have a combined teamleague of some sort in the future
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32754 Posts
November 16 2012 20:43 GMT
#117
I like it. GOM adds some needed stability and knowledge to eSF which is needed, as eSF cannot rely on the base of having unexperienced leaders promoting e-Sports, which unfortunately can end horribly if not done properly. Now it is officialy GOM vs KeSPA though, so it might add some drama to the scene.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
never_Nal
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica676 Posts
November 16 2012 22:47 GMT
#118
YES YES :D you go GOMTV
Be kind whenever possible. It is always possible.
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
November 16 2012 22:55 GMT
#119
...less drama? but we dont want that :O
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
November 16 2012 22:56 GMT
#120
On November 16 2012 15:44 Zealously wrote:
I'm cautiously optimistic about this. If done right, this could be really good for the Korean scene. If not, well...

I'm cautiously pessimistic. I'm not a Nani fan, but their reaction still feels fishy to me.
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