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jalen
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia222 Posts
November 16 2012 23:19 GMT
#441
I think he must be fraud, robbers carry POS machine? What a joke!
Why don't you play other Dota kind games? Because there is no Denies!!!!
Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
November 16 2012 23:56 GMT
#442
On November 17 2012 05:56 peekn wrote:
Is this a common thing? Like does this happen in other countries as well? I'm going to sound incredibly ignorant since I don't travel outside the country that often but I don't think that I'm ever going to go to China because of this story haha. Is this just in the East? Or does this happen in Europe as well?

Glad to hear that you made it out safe and sound. Shame that this happens to folks.


I've wandered around numerous areas of South Korea for over 4 years by myself during day/night and never had any incidents. Maybe because I'm black? I dunno... only thing I noticed was that some Korean women would move like 10 feet away from me when I walk down dark alleyways. hahaha same thing happens in the US. Some people are more scared that I'm going to mug them than vice versa *scratches head*

To try and lighten the mood: This thread reminds me of my ex GF. She tried to drain my debit card... Debit cards are a dangerous thing. Keep those things at home if you can.
GL HF... YOLO..lololollol.
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
November 17 2012 00:15 GMT
#443
On November 17 2012 08:56 Silentness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 05:56 peekn wrote:
Is this a common thing? Like does this happen in other countries as well? I'm going to sound incredibly ignorant since I don't travel outside the country that often but I don't think that I'm ever going to go to China because of this story haha. Is this just in the East? Or does this happen in Europe as well?

Glad to hear that you made it out safe and sound. Shame that this happens to folks.


I've wandered around numerous areas of South Korea for over 4 years by myself during day/night and never had any incidents. Maybe because I'm black? I dunno... only thing I noticed was that some Korean women would move like 10 feet away from me when I walk down dark alleyways. hahaha same thing happens in the US. Some people are more scared that I'm going to mug them than vice versa *scratches head*

To try and lighten the mood: This thread reminds me of my ex GF. She tried to drain my debit card... Debit cards are a dangerous thing. Keep those things at home if you can.

Well, SK would probably be one of the few countries you could actually walk around at any time of the day without getting into serious trouble.
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-17 00:50:17
November 17 2012 00:49 GMT
#444
On November 17 2012 08:19 jalen wrote:
I think he must be fraud, robbers carry POS machine? What a joke!


They didn't carry a POS machine with them. They took him to a brothel and charged him with the brothel POS. Therefore, it'll be hard to dispute the charges, cause they can just say he paid for sexy time with their girls.
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Sylfyre
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia222 Posts
November 17 2012 01:00 GMT
#445
Not at all what you want, hope everything gets worked out for mrbitter.
radscorpion9
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada2252 Posts
November 17 2012 01:00 GMT
#446
hmm...well I think I learned a valuable lesson from this, and that's to limit my credit card withdrawal amounts, and to also walk around with only the cash I need. I'm glad Mr. Bitter shared his story, that's actually quite helpful. I don't want to make light of the situation, but knowing Mr. Bitter is okay it was actually quite an interesting read. I rarely get to read first hand accounts of mugging, especially not where you get driven to a shady brothel in China.
Stosh
Profile Joined August 2010
United States32 Posts
November 17 2012 01:15 GMT
#447
On November 16 2012 08:50 MrBitter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 08:47 openbox1 wrote:
On November 16 2012 08:41 MrBitter wrote:
Been sitting here f5ing this thread for the past like, 3 hours.

Appreciate all the comments and support, guys.

I will see about filing a police report today.

Not going to expect much, and honestly am just very glad to be safe back at the hotel.


Just make sure to follow up quickly with your original bank. Right now since you're safe and sound, you just want to prioritize minimizing your losses since with the proper steps you can get full reimbursement. Ask your bank for all documents to file a reimbursement claim and get documentation from the police that you have filed a report with local law enforcement. Make very sure that the police report copy contains details of all transaction amounts and times.

The police will do nothing but you still need the paper to work with your bank.

Use skype to call since all US 1800 numbers are free with an internet connection and hold times are going to be killer. Also, probably paranoid, but card scanners were quite frequent a few years back so in case they had your wallet in their possession, you might want to cancel all credit cards and file for replacements with new numbers. I assume you've already canceled the debit card in question.


First thing I did when I got back to the hotel was call my bank, so that process is already underway. Card is also cancelled.

Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 08:49 WArped wrote:
Title is slightly misleading, at least to me. Being mugged in the UK means a slightly different thing, this sounded a whole lot worse of a situation, but Bitter wasn't physically "mugged", thankfully. It sounds like Bitter made all the correct decisions in that situation. If you'd of stayed drinking a bit longer and left alone, you could of been a whole lot more out of it under the same sticky situation, and that would of been bad.


Yes, wasn't really mugged. I think fleeced might be a better term.


Kidnapped and extorted/held for ransom is more accurate.
Rick Deckard
Profile Joined October 2010
90 Posts
November 17 2012 01:18 GMT
#448
My condolences Mr Bitter, I'm very disappointed to hear that this has happened to you.

Was just in my China by myself considering going to Shanghai, for the WCS.

Sadly organized crime is a big problem in Asia. I also have some stories I could tell.

Be careful of the police, don't be too trusting of them either, and don't be surprised if they just laugh at you.
Anesthetic
Profile Joined April 2012
United States225 Posts
November 17 2012 01:36 GMT
#449
On November 17 2012 06:10 ComaDose wrote:
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On November 17 2012 06:02 LuckShot wrote:
got to love America, we get to carry guns =p

got to love America, we get to carry guns get mugged by people with guns =p


Most people I know that carry guns in the U.s. do it for safety.

Surprisingly few criminals actually carry guns.

-StrifeX-
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States529 Posts
November 17 2012 01:46 GMT
#450
I would have punched in the incorrect pin...they can't determine if was the wrong pin or limit? I know when i punch in the wrong pin, when im trying punch it in too quickly it basically says "declined"
Mr.Bimbles
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Iceland457 Posts
November 17 2012 01:49 GMT
#451
Wow after that , he must really feel... really... bitter ... Hope he'll do good though...
"If I was your wife I would poison your coffee" "Well If I was your husband I'd drink it"
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6169 Posts
November 17 2012 01:56 GMT
#452
Hope to hear about it on one of the four streams coming up in 5 minutes or so. One thing that will get action quickly on it is the possibility of a negative image being conveyed to potential tourists.
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CatNzHat
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1599 Posts
November 17 2012 01:59 GMT
#453
On November 17 2012 06:02 LuckShot wrote:
got to love America, we get to carry guns =p

shooting it out with muggers in the street, such a great idea.
Falcor
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada894 Posts
November 17 2012 01:59 GMT
#454
On November 16 2012 06:19 Gosi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 06:06 Terrix wrote:
OMG WTF... So dangerous, was he in a bad part of town? Thats so scary...
Hope it wasn't too bad for you mate

I doubt he was in a bad part of Shanghai since the party location and the hotel have to be paid by Blizzard, no? If so, I can't really see them being in bad areas at all. I just think it is easy to scam foreigners in China if the person is suffering from language barriers and ain't so streetsmart.


its not uncommon for players to be put up in shitty parts of towns. Its not the first time a player/caster got mugged.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
November 17 2012 02:01 GMT
#455
On November 17 2012 10:59 Falcor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 06:19 Gosi wrote:
On November 16 2012 06:06 Terrix wrote:
OMG WTF... So dangerous, was he in a bad part of town? Thats so scary...
Hope it wasn't too bad for you mate

I doubt he was in a bad part of Shanghai since the party location and the hotel have to be paid by Blizzard, no? If so, I can't really see them being in bad areas at all. I just think it is easy to scam foreigners in China if the person is suffering from language barriers and ain't so streetsmart.


its not uncommon for players to be put up in shitty parts of towns. Its not the first time a player/caster got mugged.


Yeah didn't Ret and some others get mugged in dallas last year at MLG? I think I read that somewhere.
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rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
November 17 2012 02:02 GMT
#456
On November 17 2012 10:59 Falcor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 06:19 Gosi wrote:
On November 16 2012 06:06 Terrix wrote:
OMG WTF... So dangerous, was he in a bad part of town? Thats so scary...
Hope it wasn't too bad for you mate

I doubt he was in a bad part of Shanghai since the party location and the hotel have to be paid by Blizzard, no? If so, I can't really see them being in bad areas at all. I just think it is easy to scam foreigners in China if the person is suffering from language barriers and ain't so streetsmart.


its not uncommon for players to be put up in shitty parts of towns. Its not the first time a player/caster got mugged.


i think complexity CS team got mugged when they went to ESL germany once
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
November 17 2012 02:05 GMT
#457
On November 17 2012 09:15 Gosi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 08:56 Silentness wrote:
On November 17 2012 05:56 peekn wrote:
Is this a common thing? Like does this happen in other countries as well? I'm going to sound incredibly ignorant since I don't travel outside the country that often but I don't think that I'm ever going to go to China because of this story haha. Is this just in the East? Or does this happen in Europe as well?

Glad to hear that you made it out safe and sound. Shame that this happens to folks.


I've wandered around numerous areas of South Korea for over 4 years by myself during day/night and never had any incidents. Maybe because I'm black? I dunno... only thing I noticed was that some Korean women would move like 10 feet away from me when I walk down dark alleyways. hahaha same thing happens in the US. Some people are more scared that I'm going to mug them than vice versa *scratches head*

To try and lighten the mood: This thread reminds me of my ex GF. She tried to drain my debit card... Debit cards are a dangerous thing. Keep those things at home if you can.

Well, SK would probably be one of the few countries you could actually walk around at any time of the day without getting into serious trouble.


I have been to China, including Beijing and Shanghai. I am a 191 cm caucasian guy with blonde hair and blue eyes (in fact I look so foreign to the Chinese that they usually videotape me) and I weigh 75kg, meaning I look like a weakling. I speak zero Chinese. I have all the makeups of an easy target yet I had zero problems when out there despite walking in some really shady neighborhoods (people shooting heroine in the open kind of places). My point is that whilst this is an incredibly unfortunate occurrence, there is no reason to blow it out of proportions either. You can travel around China fine without getting into problems.

And with that being said I would like to offer my condolences to Mr. Bitter and congratulate him on the very wise choice of coorperating. Being unharmed is well worth 1600 USD.
zasta
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom99 Posts
November 17 2012 02:24 GMT
#458
Hey Mr Bitter,

I've been there man - don't beat yourself up, happens to the best of us. You couldn't help it. Don't look for what you should have done, you end up blaming yourself, and after all, no one goes out of a night expecting gangsters. It wasn't your fault and you didn't do anything wrong.

Take a break for a while and treat yourself to good food and a back rub.

Best wishes
Zasta
Swift118
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom335 Posts
November 17 2012 02:38 GMT
#459
That is quite bad, worst you usually get from Taxi drivers (if it was an official taxi that is) in foreign countries is getting overcharged on fares or in some parts of Asia with tourist designated Taxi's (tuk tuks and such) that try to take you to different establishments for a bonus from the company.

Shanghai does have quite a history when it comes to Gangster activity. Really though I would just say its an unfortunate incident but do not be too alarmed. Having traveled myself quite extensively in some parts of Asia in countries with even shadier reputations such as Thailand and Cambodia I would have to say that overall I have mostly felt safe in Asia.
Falcor
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada894 Posts
November 17 2012 02:47 GMT
#460
On November 17 2012 11:02 rauk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 10:59 Falcor wrote:
On November 16 2012 06:19 Gosi wrote:
On November 16 2012 06:06 Terrix wrote:
OMG WTF... So dangerous, was he in a bad part of town? Thats so scary...
Hope it wasn't too bad for you mate

I doubt he was in a bad part of Shanghai since the party location and the hotel have to be paid by Blizzard, no? If so, I can't really see them being in bad areas at all. I just think it is easy to scam foreigners in China if the person is suffering from language barriers and ain't so streetsmart.


its not uncommon for players to be put up in shitty parts of towns. Its not the first time a player/caster got mugged.


i think complexity CS team got mugged when they went to ESL germany once


yeah at gun point(or he had a gun in his waist band)
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