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Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
November 12 2012 19:49 GMT
#21
On November 13 2012 04:46 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2012 04:44 Heartland wrote:
These groups are crazy. Weak links feel like it's Monchi, Starnan, Ret, Fraer and Sjow who feel like they're going to get murdered. But a lot depends also on ThorZains form. Hero is also really upanddown. But it's looking really fun and exciting, makes me more inclined to take the trip up there.

Why do people still underrate fraer? He got top 4 and top 8 and beat three Koreans at the two DH events he went to, he surely isn't "going to get murdered"!


It's all relative to the groups of course, and I might be wrong about Fraer, but he's one of those people who have never stood out to me. Might be my own ignorance of course, but he does look like one of the weaker links in the lineup.
Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-12 19:51:54
November 12 2012 19:51 GMT
#22
1. Taeja, Stephano, TheSTC
2. Mana, Sase, Bly
3. Nerchio, Targa, TLO
4. ForGG, Hero, Naniwa


On November 13 2012 04:46 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2012 04:44 Heartland wrote:
These groups are crazy. Weak links feel like it's Monchi, Starnan, Ret, Fraer and Sjow who feel like they're going to get murdered. But a lot depends also on ThorZains form. Hero is also really upanddown. But it's looking really fun and exciting, makes me more inclined to take the trip up there.

Why do people still underrate fraer? He got top 4 and top 8 and beat three Koreans at the two DH events he went to, he surely isn't "going to get murdered"!


Because he isn´t korean.
ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
Enel
Profile Joined April 2012
Sudan430 Posts
November 12 2012 19:51 GMT
#23
Nice groups. Naniwa, MaNa and SaSe the super foreign protoss team gonna do good!
Go Sudan
WeedRa
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany815 Posts
November 12 2012 19:55 GMT
#24
On November 13 2012 04:23 -Strider- wrote:
Holy group 4


yeah, def the most stacked grp IMO
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
November 12 2012 19:55 GMT
#25
On November 13 2012 04:46 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2012 04:44 Heartland wrote:
These groups are crazy. Weak links feel like it's Monchi, Starnan, Ret, Fraer and Sjow who feel like they're going to get murdered. But a lot depends also on ThorZains form. Hero is also really upanddown. But it's looking really fun and exciting, makes me more inclined to take the trip up there.

Why do people still underrate fraer? He got top 4 and top 8 and beat three Koreans at the two DH events he went to, he surely isn't "going to get murdered"!


Btw., has Fraer ever lost to a korean offline? I think he got eliminated by Bly/Dimaga respectively, so he should be undefeated against koreans if I am not wrong.
Garfailed
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands409 Posts
November 12 2012 19:59 GMT
#26
Really hope HerO can get out of his tough group.
Should be doable i think, since dreamhack is basicly HerO's tournament
RiceAgainst
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1849 Posts
November 12 2012 20:01 GMT
#27
These groups are...amazing...Group 4 is deathly, 3 almost all zerg, 2 almost all protoss, and 1 probably going to have the event winner (I'm mind & heart say Stephano). I won't miss this event for sure.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
November 12 2012 20:04 GMT
#28
On November 13 2012 04:55 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2012 04:46 StarVe wrote:
On November 13 2012 04:44 Heartland wrote:
These groups are crazy. Weak links feel like it's Monchi, Starnan, Ret, Fraer and Sjow who feel like they're going to get murdered. But a lot depends also on ThorZains form. Hero is also really upanddown. But it's looking really fun and exciting, makes me more inclined to take the trip up there.

Why do people still underrate fraer? He got top 4 and top 8 and beat three Koreans at the two DH events he went to, he surely isn't "going to get murdered"!


Btw., has Fraer ever lost to a korean offline? I think he got eliminated by Bly/Dimaga respectively, so he should be undefeated against koreans if I am not wrong.

Yep, no losses that I'm aware of.
biaxiong
Profile Joined March 2011
United States180 Posts
November 12 2012 20:05 GMT
#29
PvP group 2, Mana will make it through and knock out Stephano, like he always does.
WhiteRa: More GG, more skill.
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
November 12 2012 20:05 GMT
#30
These groups are bo1, I guess?
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
November 12 2012 20:05 GMT
#31
holy weird groups batman

i don't know about all the fuss about group 4, sure it's really strong, but group 1 is the real star imo. groups 2&3 are a lot weaker, but still good in terms of players of course. but yeah, 4 of one race won't make for the most fun groups to watch, especially when the 4 players aren't T in either group t.t
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Nazeron
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1046 Posts
November 12 2012 20:22 GMT
#32
Taeja, Ret and Stephano are some of my favorite players, hope they do well, really looking forward to this.
really want to see sase and hero play as well. great tournament lineup!
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
November 12 2012 20:22 GMT
#33
No Polt? Me so sad =[
Long live the Boss Toss!
AgentChaos
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom4569 Posts
November 12 2012 20:23 GMT
#34
lol all these people picking taeja to finish 1st to stephano
IM & EG supporter
InfusedTT.DaZe
Profile Joined August 2010
Romania693 Posts
November 12 2012 20:23 GMT
#35
Let's go StarNaN!!!!!!
"Echoes of past events nudge the tiller on my present course, I await its reflection in the future"
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
November 12 2012 20:27 GMT
#36
fraer isn't gonna get murdered, sjow is.

why is he seeded into a group anyway? did he win a qualifier or something? seems strange.
Ornithorynquez
Profile Joined August 2009
430 Posts
November 12 2012 20:28 GMT
#37
Considering their groups, Monchi and Bly better practice together.
I have to return some videotapes.
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
November 12 2012 20:28 GMT
#38
holy fucking shit group 4 is stacked!
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
November 12 2012 20:28 GMT
#39
Wow, I would say a good all round job of dividing up the groups. A bit disappointing to see the double TL in group four, but nothing to get up in arms about.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33617 Posts
November 12 2012 20:29 GMT
#40
I wonder who would reasonably be the best player that could come out of BYOC
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